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OfflineBlastrid
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Important Music, Art, and Literature Links
    #3481125 - 12/11/04 09:56 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Please state clearly which category your links fit under. Please leave out artist, band, or label websites, I'd like this to be a list of utilities, references, and other useful sources of information.

Here are a few of my often used, or quite important links:

-=MUSIC=-
www.allmusic.com/ -comprehensive and all incompassing directory of every artist imaginable. Each artist search yeilds bio, discography, similar artists, roots and influences, and reviews of every release.

www.harmony-central.com -user ratings of instruments, pedals, software, and current news from the world of music gear.


Exact frequencies of 88 notes on a piano

Inharmonic cents-Hz-cents calculator

Mathematics and Music

Mutopia - Online catalog of classical MIDI

The Sound of Mathematics - A project to musically represent mathematical phenomena.

Music Map

Golden Meantone Tuning (Thanks Darcho)

Scientific American - Music and the Brain

Music Thing - Music blog thing.

http://www.auracle.org/index.htmlWhat is Auracle?
Auracle is a networked sound instrument, controlled by the voice. It is played and heard over the Internet. To participate, simply launch Auracle in your web browser, join an ensemble, and create sounds with other participants in real time.
(thanks to Fliquid for this link)

Brainwave/Cymatic Frequency Listing

http://www.sonicstate.com
resource of information on synthesizers
(thanks to SKINNYDOGGY)

www.terrificmusic.com/files/music_A.html
(thanks FLIQUID)
Just change the letter A into a B and so on untill you reach Z.
Great music, quality is like listening to a tape or record over old speakers.

Free list of music production software via digg.com
Here you have a list with the 30 latest FREE Music Making software. Free VST's, Plugins, Instruments, Filters, Effects, Trackers, Sequencers & more.



What is Music?: Solving a Scientific Mystery by Philip Dorrell
free ebook - http://whatismusic.info/
The main idea of the theory is that music is a super-stimulus for the perception of musicality, where "musicality" is actually a perceived property of speech. "Musicality" refers to the property of music that determines how "good" it is, how strong an emotional effect it has, and how much we enjoy listening to it.

The theory implies that ordinary speech also has this property, in a manner which may vary as a person speaks. The musicality of speech is much more subtle than that of music, but it provides important information which the listener's brain processes (without conscious awareness of the processing), in order to derive some information about the internal mental state of the speaker. This information is applied to modulate the listener's emotional response to speech, and this accounts for the emotional effect of music.

What distinguishes the super-stimulus theory from all other serious attempts to explain music scientifically is that it starts from a simple assumption that music perception must be an information processing function, and this assumption results in quite specific explanations of how major aspects of music such as scales, regular beat and harmony are processed in the brain. It is the first theory to explain the perception of musical scales without a priori assuming the existence of musical scales. (The theory has to do this, because it is a theory of music perception as an aspect of speech perception, and musical scales do not occur in normal speech.)
[THANKS BIOBUNNY!]

Incredibly long list of FREE VSTs
[THANKS GEMA]


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Blastrid]
    #3485244 - 12/12/04 04:11 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

thanks for the links blastrid :laugh:
maybe we could put those in one of the sticky posts at the top of MA&L?


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Blastrid]
    #3487681 - 12/12/04 07:23 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

kool  thread B.  :thumbup:

here's some DIY Music Links:

VST Instrument Listing

I Breathe Music

Future Producers 

OSX Audio 

Mac Music


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Blastrid]
    #3495585 - 12/14/04 01:43 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Idea: Wouldn't it be better for everyone to PM they're links to you, so you can add them to your first post? Otherwise this could be a huge thread filled with links, which would make it rather chaotic.


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Fliquid]
    #3496432 - 12/14/04 09:32 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

good idea. PM me your links!


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Blastrid]
    #3530497 - 12/22/04 04:11 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Cymatics  Is there a connection between sound, vibrations and physical reality? Do sound and vibrations have the potential to create? In this article we will see what various researchers in this field, which has been given the name of Cymatics, have concluded.

History of electronic music Awesome site full of links for those interested in electronic music history. 

  [url=http://www.tranceplant.org ]Tranceplant[/url]  Tranceplant is an incorporated non-profit association that seeks to combine revegetation work with music performance and art. This is acheived by organising mass tree plantings followed by an electronic dance party.


Innerrave Enlightenment By Dancing  :thumbup:


And for healthy ears
Hearing protection


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Sterile]
    #3547660 - 12/27/04 10:17 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Sterile said:
Cymatics  Is there a connection between sound, vibrations and physical reality? Do sound and vibrations have the potential to create? In this article we will see what various researchers in this field, which has been given the name of Cymatics, have concluded.

 




That's very interesting, any other sites to go along with that subject?  I would do a search, but I am too distracted and always stray from my goal.  Thanx :thumbup:


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: MeatSpace]
    #3576814 - 01/03/05 09:06 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

http://www.jambase.com/

http://www.pf-roio.de/

http://bt.etree.org/index.php

http://furthurnet.org/

http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php

http://web1.nugs.net/


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: A3eyedfish]
    #3781330 - 02/14/05 10:38 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

All Music is never missing in my bookmarks.

http://www.scaruffi.com/usmusic.html - History of Rock. Great articles.

http://www.lysergia.com/AcidArchives/index.htm - Dedicated to Acid Rock.


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Blastrid]
    #3809189 - 02/20/05 11:45 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.songfacts.com -- Website that has meanings, facts, mysteries and rumours about almost any song.


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: adamj]
    #3923300 - 03/15/05 09:40 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Discogs.com

This is an excellent music database for electronic/rap music; theres also other kinds of music there as well.  Users submit albums in to the database, and users also rate and add commentary on albums and releases.  :thumbup:

I would also say  Pitchforkmedia as this site offers reviews on new music.  They also have pretty good 100 greatest albums lists from the 00's, 90's, 80's and the 70's.
Fairly pretentious reviews though


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: schmektron]
    #3965062 - 03/24/05 01:37 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Here are a few regional music databases and forums in Canada. Great resource to find live local music in Canada.

http://20hz.ca/ - Mostly Ontario
http://www.livemusicvancouver.com/ - Vancouver with West Coast links
http://media.locals.ca/localsconf/ - East Coast
http://www.jamhub.ca/ - east to west (mostly jam bands)
http://www.giraffecycle.com/ - Saint John NB (my home town)

Anyothers like these down south?? Should post em!


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Awebig]
    #3966296 - 03/24/05 07:34 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Great site for information on hundreds of metal bands:

www.bnrmetal.com


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: nanananotehead]
    #4023168 - 04/06/05 07:27 PM (4 years, 7 months ago)

Its kinda odd no one mentioned this site yet, but this is my favorite site for electronica discussion.
www.di.fm


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Blastrid]
    #4109988 - 04/29/05 05:21 AM (4 years, 6 months ago)

.:Visual Arts:.

Some contemporary artists worth checking out:


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: ivi]
    #4143936 - 05/06/05 07:56 PM (4 years, 6 months ago)

goa and psy events :
www.goatrance.de/goabase

this one too: http://www.goatrance.net/


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: yarrak]
    #4211335 - 05/23/05 06:21 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

this is the only music site you guys need...http://www.kexp.org/home.asp?noflash=true

KEXP is a local Seattle radiostation (and the BEST radiostation in the world) ,which features special weekly programs for nearly every genre of music...their dj's have an infinite amount of music knowledge and you rarely see and hear them play the same songs over again (ahem like 99% of shite stations today). Its broadcasted world-wide and you can tune into the show via their site.

You'll learn about alot of diverse, old, and new music when tuning in. These people care so much about music, that i signed up for the volunteer pledge drive (get to meet all the dj's and eat fine food, whythefuck not!)

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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Soularize]
    #4246472 - 06/01/05 11:53 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Please hear some psychedelically inspired music at http://smallalien.com/music.html ...Peace, Psmaul


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: SmallAlien]
    #4500314 - 08/05/05 02:01 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Sweet jesus thank you for those links!

(i spent about 2 months working on some music from quantum theory)


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: AvatarofAtavism]
    #4676855 - 09/18/05 05:14 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Can I be dead cheeky and put a link here to my site?
http://www.wasistdas.co.uk

It's for krautrock/Kosmishce/German Cosmic Music/Far-out psyche etc.


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: A3eyedfish]
    #4863049 - 10/28/05 10:22 AM (4 years, 25 days ago)

Quote:

A3eyedfish said:
http://www.jambase.com/

http://www.pf-roio.de/

http://bt.etree.org/index.php

http://furthurnet.org/

http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php

http://web1.nugs.net/




nice links


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: shrek1]
    #4898074 - 11/05/05 06:06 PM (4 years, 17 days ago)

:rastamon:


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: A3eyedfish]
    #4910619 - 11/08/05 06:58 PM (4 years, 14 days ago)

Here's a keeper

http://kexp.org/home.asp?noflash=false

kexp is by far the best and most diverse music station out there. forget BBC, WFMU...whatever...KEXP, a freeform public fm radiostation based in Seattle, delivers the most expansive and unique music in the world.

They have special-genre programs weekly. If youre into electronica music for example, every Wednesday night you can hear their 3-hour electronic show called "Expansions". This particular program is spun and mixed live by 3 rotating host dj's (all three of them are very very fucking good, and each spins different styles of electronic beats)

Anyways, there's a weekly 3-hour program for virtually any genre you can think of. Many great indie artists and bands perform live sets at the station too. In fact its fair to say that kexp is the most loved fm station by most of the bands and artists themselves.

I really hope at least a few of you guys check their site out. it's absolutely worth it! even if youre a music afficionado, i promise you will STILL discover plenty of great music you've never heard before when tuning into kexp.


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Blastrid]
    #4958721 - 11/20/05 02:07 AM (4 years, 2 days ago)

http://www.philharmonia.co.uk/thesoundexchange/sound_samples/sample_libraries/

free sound samples from tha london philharmonic orchestra! any note on any instument, amazing! enjoy :laugh:


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: stefan]
    #5087392 - 12/20/05 09:06 PM (3 years, 10 months ago)

sputnik7.net (might be com or org, on the wrong comp)
its a music site with vids and downloads, good site
erowid.org has a great collection of modern arts, im sure we all know that, but just in case.

and my site is whythewho.cjb.net with art, poetry and my personal philosophies... enjoy


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: whythewho]
    #5266967 - 02/05/06 06:12 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

www.artistserver.com

www.isratrance.com (then go to the forums)

www.philosomatika.com


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: XUL]
    #5346842 - 02/27/06 07:40 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

http://www.pandora.com


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: midnite_rider]
    #5402789 - 03/15/06 10:17 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)


http://www.audiostreet.net/artist.aspx?artistid=35111


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: RadelBaluvar]
    #5448065 - 03/27/06 03:54 PM (3 years, 7 months ago)

www.looknohands.com -Chord/Scale charts. Very useful.

http://guitar-masters.com/ -Mostly advanced jazz related theory.

http://www.guitar-and-bass.com/guitar/index.html -Purely scale, chord, and arpeggios charts. Can be very useful and it's free!

http://www.zentao.com/guitar/ -General theory/technique site. Some really good reasources.

http://soundme.com/eng/frame.htm -Very comprehensive site.

http://www.acguitar.com/lessons/lessons.shtml -Archive of Acoustic Guitar Lessons.

http://www.essentialguitar.com/ -Probably the weakest one on here but may contain some good info.

http://www.ibreathemusic.com/ -Lots of articles written mostly by metal heads. Don't let that turn you off though, theres lots of great info on soloing and technique.

www.freeguitarvideos.com You get to actually see how to play some standard licks. Great site period.

http://www.justinguitar.com//Lessons.html -General guitar info with some good transcriptions.

http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/index.html -Jazz improvisational primer. Not specific to guitar.

http://www.dolmetsch.com/theoryintro.htm -Everything about music theory you ever wanted to know.

http://www.guitarknowledgenet.com/


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Blastrid]
    #5478395 - 04/04/06 08:59 AM (3 years, 7 months ago)

check this one out for good art and visuals to watch.

www.mkultra.tv


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: mkultra77]
    #5593209 - 05/05/06 08:35 AM (3 years, 6 months ago)

www.zoeticart.com

"Zoetic Art is a place for Visionary Artists to gather as one community and share their creations with a growing international audience. We seek to furthur the recognition of visionary, surreal, and psychedelic art through the presentation of fine examples in our online gallery and live exhibitions around the globe."


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: ProgFron]
    #5830039 - 07/06/06 11:35 PM (3 years, 4 months ago)

www.killerofgiants.com


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Blastrid]
    #6985625 - 05/30/07 02:15 AM (2 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Noissu_Looc]
    #7230571 - 07/27/07 01:24 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

oink.cd, if u can get an invite, this is the place for music lovers.


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: iateshaggy]
    #7278488 - 08/09/07 04:37 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

this is my purevolume

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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: tripleclick]
    #7278498 - 08/09/07 04:41 PM (2 years, 3 months ago)

check out this site with the biggest list of free VST plug-ins I've ever seen.

http://www.gersic.com/plugins

if you don't know how this works: you can open these from FL studio, Ableton Live or almost any software you're using. enjoy!


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Blastrid]
    #8015799 - 02/12/08 11:57 PM (1 year, 9 months ago)

that music-map.com thing is awesome. i use it all the time now.


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Blastrid]
    #8530517 - 06/16/08 04:24 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

For Music Production
Audacity http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/windows

This program lets you record from a microphone or stereo mix (i.e. what ever is coming out of you sound card)


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: Blastrid]
    #8791279 - 08/18/08 02:27 PM (1 year, 3 months ago)

muxtape - Share mp3s, the old fashioned way.


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: ack]
    #8821413 - 08/24/08 06:17 PM (1 year, 2 months ago)

http://www.vstclub.com/forum/

tutorials

http://www.vstclub.com/forum/9-0-1


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ambient - worldmusic - chillout mixes [Re: MrNed]
    #8889876 - 09/07/08 07:23 AM (1 year, 2 months ago)

Hi people,

let me share my mixes with you.

It is available for everyone on the internet, mostly psychedelic chillout-ambient, mixed with world music sounds and ethnic samples....

Impossible to describe, but for me it helps to have journeys like meditation with the power of sounds....
have a look and listen, and send me an e-mail to tell how is it! :smile:

The 2 new one here (one is more acoustic from recordings by friends, the other is psychedelic ambient, chillout..)
http://worldsofsound.delibab.net

and lots of other mixes right here:
http://www.delibab.net/zenek_en.php

Have a nice trip!
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Music to trip to....... [Re: Blastrid]
    #9110685 - 10/21/08 04:14 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I love listening to chill music while i digest fungus. This last trip I had I listened to Arden Kaywin and I freaking had the greatest trip yet. I seriously recommend to any one who wants a nice meditative and spiritual trip to try it out. Her myspace is www.myspace.com/ardenkaywin


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Useful heavy metal links [Re: Blastrid]
    #9121071 - 10/23/08 12:30 PM (1 year, 29 days ago)

Listing of Known Heavy Metal Bands
Brian N. Russ' classic site.

Reviews of Death Metal and Black Metal Bands
Oldest metal site on the net.


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: ivi]
    #11054672 - 09/13/09 10:15 PM (2 months, 7 days ago)

Quote:

ivi said:
.:Visual Arts:.

Some contemporary artists worth checking out:




Here are two more contemporaries to add to the list:


I implore you all to observe Kuksi's sculptures!





.:Music:.

Last.fm is a wonderful place to discover new music!


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Speckled Snake, Brother of Birch: Amanita muscaria Motifs in Celtic Ledgends
Fly Argaric Motifs in the Cúchulainn Myth Cycle
Ploughing the Clouds: The Search for Irish Soma
Rig Veda: Soma Pavamana
The Ambrosia Society
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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: MrNed]
    #11151079 - 09/29/09 03:04 PM (1 month, 22 days ago)

good idea, nice thread.


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: subliciouscompost]
    #11289073 - 10/20/09 11:29 PM (1 month, 1 day ago)

http://www.metal-archives.com/

pretty much every metal band... evar :headbanger:


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Re: Important Music, Art, and Literature Links [Re: twighead]
    #11500666 - 11/21/09 06:55 PM (4 hours, 42 minutes ago)

If you like to have a dj or a selector doing a first class job for you:

Internet radios:

Dub and roots: right on scales http://radio.rightonscales.com/index.html (it is added as a bonus on a site selling precision scales). No chat

Funk (85%) and hip hop (15%): wefunk http://www.wefunkradio.com/playlaunch/radio. Somewhere in the USA it is also a broadcast radio. No chat

Stunning european national radios:

France's Fip: very varied with a quota of french music, http://players.tv-radio.com/radiofrance/playerfip.php 98% music

Spain's radio 3: max 10 minutes an hour of chat, style changes once every hour or two, impeccable selection in each style plus best of the week option with no chat, http://www.rtve.es/radio/radio3/
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Various clips for your enjoyment:

http://arthurzbygniew.blogspot.com/2001/09/music-links.html


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