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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: Adamist]
    #3474257 - 12/10/04 12:17 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

nothing is definite, thats why you go with whats probable

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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: notapillow]
    #3474266 - 12/10/04 12:19 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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notapillow said:
dmt is in its own catigory i would think



yeah, DMT seems more like some advanced alien technology than a drug

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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: Adamist]
    #3474268 - 12/10/04 12:20 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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while hash most certainly gets you higher, it perhaps does more damage than the marijuana that it was made from.





What would suggest this? The fact that when smoking hash you're only smoking compressed trichomes as opposed to plant material? Which sounds better for your lungs to you?

Sorry if that comes off kind of confrontational, I assure you that's not my intent.


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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: smellycat]
    #3474270 - 12/10/04 12:20 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

In my own experience, MDMA and/or LSD give me more focus, clarity & peace of mind than marijuana OR mushrooms. But that's me. :shrug:


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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: Adamist]
    #3474278 - 12/10/04 12:23 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

MDMA was the first illicit drug I ever tried. Even before marijuana! :crazy:


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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: Jim]
    #3474282 - 12/10/04 12:23 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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GratefulJim said:
i think pretty much anything is possible.  except maybe the reptilians.  I might be considered a skeptic in that area.


Wait till you meet one... :wink:


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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... *DELETED* [Re: Adamist]
    #3474290 - 12/10/04 12:26 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: fresh313]
    #3474633 - 12/10/04 02:02 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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fresh313 said:
youd have to compare the same drug in each form, like ex; synthetic THC and naturally extracted THC




I think the extraction/manufacture/isolation is what makes it "unnatural" but I'm sure not everyone holds this same interpration of the quote.

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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: Hooty]
    #3474636 - 12/10/04 02:04 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Hooty said:
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while hash most certainly gets you higher, it perhaps does more damage than the marijuana that it was made from.





What would suggest this? The fact that when smoking hash you're only smoking compressed trichomes as opposed to plant material? Which sounds better for your lungs to you?

Sorry if that comes off kind of confrontational, I assure you that's not my intent.




I mentioned that point in my post. But I'm thinking the more THC, the worse. Cuz THC isn't healthy or is it?

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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: fresh313]
    #3474677 - 12/10/04 02:24 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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It just seems logical that the body would know how to process a drug occuring in nature better than a synthetic pharm. Synthetic compounds aren't something the body has had any experience in dealing with. That nature as we know it didn't intend for them to even exist.




ah but you see, often times these chemicals will mimic other neurotransmitters in the brain and bind just like they were those chemicals to begin with. Nicotine binds on the nicotinic acetylcholine receptors, acting like acetylcholine, for instance. In fact, many chemicals do this all the time.

To bring it down to the basics, i think most people would feel more comfortable with taking a substance that they know for sure came from nature, and i cant blame them, i feel the same way.

Call it ignorant or stupid if you want (not you who i am replying to, just in general), but it brings more peace of mind. And i live in Downtown LA...would you just dealers with substances around here?

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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: Adamist]
    #3474734 - 12/10/04 03:00 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Doesn't bother me. I just put on my "I'm talking to a religious person" face. So what? Natural drugs mean cannabis, shrooms, cocaine, morphine, beer, wine, liquor, tobacco, peyote, kratom, salvia, etc. No big deal. They just don't like synthetics (don't exist in nature). Personally I love LSD, 2-c-i, MDMA, 4-ho-dipt, 2-ct-21, would love to try 4-aco-mipt and 2-c-e. But hey, I think methamphetamine was a big mistake. Whatever. I view the preference as a religious one.


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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: smellycat]
    #3474766 - 12/10/04 03:20 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

For example, when I smoke the ganj, I'm taking it in its natural form, how it is found in nature.

Not necessarily!

Marijuana as it exists today is as it is primary through selective breeding, and is grown under certain conditions to maximize budding and THC content, as well as a few other things.

The marijuana you buy today is quite a bit different from the marijuana that was originally found in the wild.


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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: Phluck]
    #3474859 - 12/10/04 04:32 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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Phluck said:
For example, when I smoke the ganj, I'm taking it in its natural form, how it is found in nature.

Not necessarily!

Marijuana as it exists today is as it is primary through selective breeding, and is grown under certain conditions to maximize budding and THC content, as well as a few other things.

The marijuana you buy today is quite a bit different from the marijuana that was originally found in the wild.




I know, I mentioned that (strains). :smile:

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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: smellycat]
    #3474912 - 12/10/04 05:26 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

i only use substances that ive grown/extracted from a plant source myself, with the possable exception of LSD, which i may eat up like candy.


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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: Todcasil]
    #3475086 - 12/10/04 06:59 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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The marijuana you buy today is quite a bit different from the marijuana that was originally found in the wild.




Go read about some of the land race strains from Vietnam and Thailand that have been left to grow without interference by man. Some of those strains are as potent as some of the better strains selectively breed by man.

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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: Adamist]
    #3475098 - 12/10/04 07:04 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

I would agree that it is both amusing and annoying.

First, because I don't agree with the distinction made between "natural" and "man-made" materials. Humans are natural products of the universe, thus our products are also natural products of the universe.

Second: just because something grows "naturally" in a plant DOES NOT MEAN IT IS SAFE TO USE. Whereas chemicals created in a lab can be tested and researched to see if they are dangerous, chemicals in plants are there AS A DEFENSE MECHANISM! They are meant to be TOXIC, or at the very least extremely irritating. Some of the most toxic chemicals known come from plants, so you can't feed me any bullshit about "natural" being better or more safe.


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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: trendal]
    #3475152 - 12/10/04 07:27 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

i break it down different than natural and synthetic which i know alot of people who do it that way. i say clean and dirty drugs. i know this is subject to change person to person bu tfor me a clean drug doesnt make you feel like ass for taking it or just the thought of taking it (just some examples, weed and shrooms). now a dirty drug makes you feel well dirty, like when i take dxm i feel like i shouldnt be doing this(and i use to take way to much dxm). also for dirty, some of those drugs that will make you hurt/steal/etc, for another high. and ive meat plenty of crackheads like this. i think heroin is dirty but that is just me i would do opium anyday over heroin. but this is my opinion, if someone wants to take their dirty drugs then thats the way they want to do it. oh yeah ive meet some pretty bad crankers.


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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: Hooty]
    #3475447 - 12/10/04 10:17 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Ok so you want natural drugs because they are "contaminate free"? How do YOU know that? If you didn't grow it, how do you know that it wasn't fucked with? Like the somewhere along the line someone's cat peed on it, or it was dropped in shit, or otherwise fucked with. How do you know that those mushrooms weren't grown on contaminated substrate and still grew, but are probbalyu loaded with mycotoxins?


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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: smellycat]
    #3475471 - 12/10/04 10:24 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

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while hash most certainly gets you higher, it perhaps does more damage than the marijuana that it was made from.




I strongly disagree. You are not burning any significant amount of plant matter, just the trichomes. In essence, the same as using a vaporizer. THC is not the carcinogenic toxin found in hash/mj smoke :wink:

Soapbar hash isn't too healthy I'm sure.

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Re: When someone says "I only do NATURAL drugs"... [Re: Organic]
    #3475485 - 12/10/04 10:27 AM (19 years, 3 months ago)

Exactly.

THC itself has no negative effects at all.

Whoever told you otherwise needs to be smacked for being so dumb.

I don't know where people get this nonsense from.


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