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 The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! 
#3418807 - 11/28/04 08:07 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you are looking for real-life info on mushrooms, this thread's the place to be! Here you'll find many of your questions answered by the Shroomery Community, and if you're a Mushroom tripper then by all means take the questionnaire and add to our knowledge
Far too few people visit the Polls Forum so since this is Trip Tips I decided this is the place to lay this questionnaire on all of you. In two posts you'll get some of the most frequently asked questions as a clickable poll so you can answer and look for answers in a jiffy.
The best-known shroom is the Cubie (Psilocybe cubensis or "Golden Top") and it's the mushroom tripped on in 4/5 trips. If you buy mushrooms, they are most likely Cubies.
Below is a clickable pic of how a baggie of dried Cubies may look:
Most mushroom people have got experience with it, so I'll use the Cubie as the gold standard in the dosage questions.
Please do not give bogus answers, it's an anonymous poll, you can see the scores without voting by clicking the line at the bottom of that questionnaire. I will post the poll in 2 installments so don't forget to vote in the second part too!
So to all you Mushroom Trippers out there, here is..
THE GREAT MUSHROOMS POLL
Update: I'm amazed how we got to over 90 responders in a mere three days  As things are looking now I'm going to write a paper around it because the information given by you all is very valuable to psychedelic studies. Please answer as many questions you can and do it truthfully. Looks like the Shroomery is going to produce it's first sci PDF! Thank you all and please vote if you got information to share about your own use.
Edited by Wiccan_Seeker (11/30/04 07:09 AM)
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Both tripping during the day and during the night are nice.
I like to start the trip in the evening, see the sun set, and come down at night.
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 Re: The Great Mushroom Poll [Re: TheHateCamel]
#3419223 - 11/28/04 12:37 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Aaaah look at those numbers pouring in 
There are some very clear patterns already and quite some surprises (as many trip indoors as in nature and nighttripping is preferred 2:1 while 12:0 like closed-eyes/darkness visuals) emerging. Please don't forget to vote for the second block!
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Both tripping during the day and during the night are nice.
I like to start the trip in the evening, see the sun set, and come down at night.
Personally I like to trip in the afternoons when I'm going solo, and the evening + night when I trip in groups.
Best trip: take first mushrooms at sunset, trip (and boost) on a starlit moonless cool summer night until sunrise. Cosmic... 
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great poll and info. now how you gonna get the newb to read rather than ask these eternal questions?
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3419372 - 11/28/04 01:34 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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excellent poll, i enjoyed that very much.
to everybody out there, try a trip at the crack of dawn. wake up at like 6 am and ingest the mushrooms and head out to watch the sunrise and the waking of the world from a mountain or something. best few hours of my life, best afterglow ever.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: TODAY]
#3419396 - 11/28/04 01:50 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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shrooms are so emtional for me, that if i start when it is light out, and it turns dark i become depreesed. and im MT in the winter (when i shroom most, cus the weed is no where to be found) the light goes away at 5 so i shroom at night and have a very late night.....
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: TODAY]
#3419400 - 11/28/04 01:52 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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 19% sticks their mushrooms up their anus?!
Are we truthin' on that one, people?
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3419433 - 11/28/04 02:02 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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hahahah would that even work?
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Christian Bale]
#3419476 - 11/28/04 02:17 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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hahahah would that even work?
*nods*
It actually is as serious a poll entry as the rest. If you squirt mushroom juice up your anus as an enema/clysma you will trip. There was a tek about that which was genuine. I find it hard to believe that 19% though! Ah the steady influx of votes will reveal the truth. If we get 40 voters oddnesses will smoothen out and it'll start to become statistically sound.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3419758 - 11/28/04 04:03 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Great fucking poll. Thanks WS.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3419921 - 11/28/04 05:14 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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hahahah would that even work?
*nods*
It actually is as serious a poll entry as the rest. If you squirt mushroom juice up your anus as an enema/clysma you will trip. There was a tek about that which was genuine. I find it hard to believe that 19% though! Ah the steady influx of votes will reveal the truth. If we get 40 voters oddnesses will smoothen out and it'll start to become statistically sound.
I probably sound ignorant but why would someone bother doing that when it is so much easier to just eat them?
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Christian Bale]
#3420267 - 11/28/04 06:44 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I probably sound ignorant but why would someone bother doing that when it is so much easier to just eat them?
Lots of reasons!
Some people do weird stuff to see if it can be done. An example would be me. I have snorted weed-crumbs to see if the THC would be absorbed intranasally like the Discovery Channel said about cannabis-based Zulu War Snuff.
I wanted to see if that medicine man was full of it 
Naturally he wasn't: I got very high but ofcourse never repeated.
Other people do weird stuff to see if and how it gets them where they want to be. An example would be Columbus who sought the East Indies but found the Americas as a side-effect of going West instead of East.
After all: the effect might be unique or stronger, thus cheaper achieved, and fasting would be unneeded.
Other people just like sticking stuff up their arse 
Through these intrepid adventurers we know that you can put an Ecstasy tab in a syringe , DMT can be vaporized instead of injected  and the prostate can best be massaged from the inside 
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3420318 - 11/28/04 06:57 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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The whole psylocibe-anal-injection, while a little out there sounding... I do believe. While not having done it myself, I did witness a friend inject meth into his (anon) arm with a mixture of c0ke, and while the effect was instantanious, the sickening feeling that attached itself made it seem hardly worth it from what I could tell. I don't disapprove injection/enema... but I would recommend caution considering the direct-effect. Some drugs are enjoyed due to the lasting effects given.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: sDariuSs]
#3420456 - 11/28/04 07:21 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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For the record:
Street Injection is jabbing a needle into your flesh and introducing dangerous contaminants into your system.
It's very dangerous.
Enema is squirting a liquid into your butthole and holding it for 10-30min before pooping it out.
It's very odd, but not dangerous per say.
Please, not another anus debate 
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3420541 - 11/28/04 07:36 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Very interesting results. I especially find interesting that no one has spiritual but non-pleasurable trips. I'll make sure my g/f sees this, I'm trying to convince her to try mushis...
*little off-topic*
Wiccan_Seeker, I just love the amount of great info you have in your signature. It's been most useful
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
#3420623 - 11/28/04 07:51 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Mushrooms tickle the senses (or cauterize them) and if you're lucky your Higher Self is awakened by it, either it reaches out or you pray to be saved from the onslaught of 12 grams dried. (did that once, not the praying, fortunately! Now, older, wiser and far more sensitive i'm that lone "one gram average dose" statistic)
The hardest spike at the moment is that a whopping 86% of 35 people say that Closed Eye/Darkness Visions are the place to be. And indeed, if you didn't do that you're missing out on something precious
Thanks DEEPMAN for the compliment, but please outdo me and make your signature as info-laden as mine. I used my space to the last letter , too bad code is counted too.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3420794 - 11/28/04 08:22 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I shall try to, Wicccan, I shall try. By now I'm trying to get info spread among my friends, but I'm afraid your a way better source than me.  That being said, I'll link to the LSD handbook right now. (Anyone knows how to put text centered on the side of the picture?)
Wow, 12 grams dried? the most I've tried was 3 (bad yet marvelous trip) and I'm planning on 5gr soon. Maybe it's just a phase, but I find less than 1.5gr hardly worth (I don't really use mushis recreationally). Do you use it just for a little insight perhaps?
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
#3421015 - 11/28/04 08:58 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wow, 12 grams dried? the most I've tried was 3 (bad yet marvelous trip) and I'm planning on 5gr soon. Maybe it's just a phase, but I find less than 1.5gr hardly worth (I don't really use mushis recreationally). Do you use it just for a little insight perhaps?
If your 3gr was bad (meaning you had problems handling it i assume), why go for 5 grams?
If you use modest amounts incidentally (the statistic kinda leans toward once every two months) for some time you will typically become MORE sensitive to mushrooms as time progresses. At first it has to yank it out of you, but later on it takes a speck of Shroom and an oomph of your trained mind and you will get more then you ever did on higher doses before.
My most profound trip in terms of hallucinatory carnival was on 12 grams. My most profound trip of all was on 0.5gr Liberty Caps.
I left my body behind on my bed and my spirit sat wrapped in a blanket in the icecold desert night by a campfire, as a Spirit Teacher layed it all down to me.
Soon a spiritual Brother comes over for a Trip. I haven't decided how much I will take, 0.25gr, 0.5 gr perhaps 1 gr of very potent cubies. He has said he'll likely go for 0.5gr.
On my last 0.5gr trip I overflowed with memories and sequences of visuals of the distant past, including toddler memories, what i saw and felt and even sitting with my legs outstretched in a baby tub 2ft long
All the details I saw were confirmed by my father later on and my very limited field of vision (a blur starts beyond 2ft) proved a biological trait of, well, babies.
I came to insight on many things of my life as I am in the "perinatal" Death/Rebirth sequence of Ego Death.
Said Brother, on 0.75gr, had a mighty confusion at first but a clarity came which guided him from that Session onward.
Tripping is a 24/7 commitment.
How can 1.5gr hardly be worthwhile if YOU are worthwhile?
A low dose is every bit as profound as a high dose if you truely open yourself to it.
It is still you and the mushroom, your brain opening up on 4-HO-DMT.
The biggest trap is to think that you need more mushroom to get more spirituality: You tend to get more carnival and more confusion with higher doses, but the Spirituality is within YOU, not the Mushroom, and if you use incidentally (once every X months) your spiritual growth will be measured in being ABLE to experience a Deeper effect with LESS mushrooms.
Challenge: if you know what outdoor camping demands (hypothermia measures etc) I dare you to go into the woods on a moonless cloudless night and take one gram of mushrooms with your ass on a Planet and Infinity above.
I can almost guarantee you that unbelievable spiritual profundity will befall you.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3421183 - 11/28/04 09:33 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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If your 3gr was bad (meaning you had problems handling it i assume), why go for 5 grams?
I had to sort things out with myself that's all. That's why I said that it was a bad YET marvelous trip. I learned so much about myself and everything else, and felt SO free... in fact that sensation has never gone away, and it was by far my best trip ever. It was just... difficult  And that was the way I wanted it.
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Tripping is a 24/7 commitment.
Absolutely. A lifetime commitment I'd say. Every trip has changed me forever.
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How can 1.5gr hardly be worthwhile if YOU are worthwhile?
A low dose is every bit as profound as a high dose if you truly open yourself to it.
I agree openhearthly. I didn't mean it that way. You see, my friends use to think of mushis as some funny drug and take just 1gr for laughs. I tend to be more spiritually involved with mushis and like larger doses. So as you can see, I'm a little biased. But I agree smaller doses can be very spiritual. (I just prefer LSD in those quantities, more time to think. I prefer mushis for harder trips)
I hope this clears up the confusion, I didn't mean any disrespect at all. Just my way, you know :P
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
#3421598 - 11/28/04 11:11 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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another beautiful, and informative thread
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
#3422331 - 11/29/04 07:32 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey man, all ok!
I have nothing against high dosees, in fact I did quite some of those. But some high-dosers look down on low-dosers and advise enormous amounts to newbies, often based on their own tolerance.
Ah so you're a "low LSD, high Mushrooms" kinda tripper! Contrary to popular belief I myself find LSD -milder- then Mushrooms, it's only heavy load lies in its duration which is twice that of mushrooms.
LSD to me tends to be more generic and "clean" while Mushrooms are all over the place with fuzzy little details and "organic" visuals and at higher doses it presents itself as an Entity, which I didn't experience with LSD.
My own experiences with mushrooms outnumber those on LSD by 7:1 and I've always been connected for a blot or dot and Shrooms are legal headshopitems here in Holland! (in the UK too nowadays, but more hesitantly)
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3422398 - 11/29/04 08:29 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ya in the uk I buy 30g vacuum packed boxes of fresh coplandia totaly legaly over the net, shipped in from the netherlands.... they even have a sellby date on them 
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3422651 - 11/29/04 10:44 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I totally agree with you. Mushrooms are more overwhelming (specially in visual terms) IMHE, but the duration of LSD is too much to go with large doses for me right now. I don't feel ready yet for a full blown trip on LSD, and it's impossible to get here in Spain also so...
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some high-dosers look down on low-dosers and advise enormous amounts to newbies, often based on their own tolerance.
I don't quite fall under that category. I find the 1-1.5gr range the best for the first time. Even tho my first time with LSD was a fairly large dose I think is too risky. Better to increment the dose after a few first mild trips, just to know where you're heading.
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Mushrooms are all over the place with fuzzy little details and "organic" visuals and at higher doses it presents itself as an Entity, which I didn't experience with LSD.
I definitely know what you mean by entity
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First of all, great poll. However, the question: "Do you close your eyes or like darkness when you trip?" is not appropriate given the choices available. For myself, it all depends on mood and the direction I wish to guide my experience. However the two choices available only provide for an all-or-none response.
Other than that, I would just like to stress that persons new to the psychedelic experience should aim to eat 1gram dried or less of p. cubensis, as these drugs are very powerful and most everyone with no prior experience regarding hallucinogens will receive a profound and exhilarating experience from 1g or less of properly dried cubensis. My first dose was ~0.5-0.75 g dried and it absolutely blew me away, any stronger and I likely wouldn't have been able to function in the environment I was in (some public arenas at nighttime, with a sober sitter, and one other friend tripping). Even if that first dose doesn't hit you as you would have preferred, there is always room for expansion on your next venture into psychedelia, and one ought to always remember that you simply can't 'take away' what you've already eaten, so it is best to start small and work your way up to your desired level.
Thanks for taking the time to create this poll Wiccan_Seeker - your thoughtfulness will always help many consider things they may otherwise not have. Happy Tripping! 
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
#3422894 - 11/29/04 12:02 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have to disagree with the LSD being milder than shroom. At least from my experiences;
Mushrooms = Connectedness/Oneness with the earth, OBEs, thought provoking or profound thoughts about one's personal identity, OEVs (I stare at something and it will turn into something else), Intense CEVs, Mild auditory hallucinations, moderate euphoria, paranoia (sometimes), moderate time dilation.
LSD = INSANITY and CRAZINESS! Visual manifestations of auras and vibes, Extreme auditory hallucinations including mock Schizophrenia (hearing voices but just temporarily as hallucinations), Connectedness/Oneness with the UNIVERSE, Intense CEVs and Intense OEVs (including seeing "entities"), extreme paranoia, extreme dysphoria, extreme euphoria, mania and MASSIVE time dilation just to name a few of the key side effects.
The biggest dose of shrooms I've taken is 9 dried grams, the biggest dose of acid I have taken is 4 hits of some primo ass shit. I can honestly say that the acid trip I had was much more INTENSE than the mushroom trip (though the mushroom trip was very intense too, just not nearly on the same level of intensity).
I think either I'm getting bunk shrooms and GOOD acid or you guys are getting DANK shrooms and weak acid, or maybe some people just trip harder off of one than the other. As for me if I'm trying to trip real hard (to the point of certifiable insanity) I take LSD. If I'm trying to trip for mental healing or bonding with nature/earth I eat some mushies.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: audiovideodork]
#3422955 - 11/29/04 12:23 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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the polls look very good, i dont see alot of retard votes... except the anus one, but everyone knows shrooms are best in the stomach, not the butt...
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3423063 - 11/29/04 01:01 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Challenge: if you know what outdoor camping demands (hypothermia measures etc) I dare you to go into the woods on a moonless cloudless night and take one gram of mushrooms with your ass on a Planet and Infinity above.
I can almost guarantee you that unbelievable spiritual profundity will befall you.
I believe that if one is predisposed to spirituality, then they will have such an experience. I, myself, being an atheist tend to have an excursion into infinity, or a journey into nothingness. It may just be that I have a problem utilizing the word spirituality as I do not believe in the existence of a spirit.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Ekstaza]
#3423108 - 11/29/04 01:19 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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On the comeups I still sometimes get the empty feelings.... Like everything I live for in normal day life is pointless. I find it hard to understand how I could get any enjoyment from anything at some points
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: MovingTarget]
#3423121 - 11/29/04 01:25 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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thankfully i dont get that too much though.... only on the comeups sometimes when am feeling shit
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Re: The Great Mushroom Poll [Re: geokills]
#3423458 - 11/29/04 02:40 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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the question: "Do you close your eyes or like darkness when you trip?" is not appropriate given the choices available. For myself, it all depends on mood and the direction I wish to guide my experience. However the two choices available only provide for an all-or-none response.
true, it's pretty sharp putting it like that. But what i meant is whether people like to close their eyes and view CEV or rather not (at all) I should've expanded it to the typical very/appreciable/depends/occasionally/hardly pattern but too many votes have been cast to change it.
I'm thinking to wait until the least popular question gets over 100 responses (so n=100+ on all questions) and then make a report, lessay
The Shroomery Survey: statistics of contemporary use of psilocybin mushrooms
and then drop that off at our great site, Erowid, MAPS etc for evaluation to publish as the information submitted by the voters is genuinely valuable stuff.
The questions are just questions: it's all about the ANSWERS!
Like you i am very dissatisfied with newbie dosage recommendations. Currently the statistics say the community advises to use within the 1-2gr ratio (the pinpoint was <2.2gr last time I checked at n=45) and at that time the average dose used by the users themselves fell inbetween 3gr and 1/8 oz (pinpoint 3.3gr)
Especially the newbie dosage is humongous.
If you apply the ratio 6-12mg psilocybin per gram of good cubies as I saw in a Dutch study 2.2gr equals some 12.5-25mg which is a walloping amount.
For incidental users of modest amounts and newbies I personally deem 1.5gr (9-18mg) the total max as it reaches just into the therapeutic ratio of full effects (which is 8-20mg or 10-20mg in Shulgin's TiHKAL) but personally I would start somebody out on 0.5gr as you *never* know somebody's sensitivity and issues and for most people 0.5gr (3-6mg) is definately impressive but readily resistable.
You should not resist mushrooms, but if you give a newbie a tough dose of mushrooms and they get a bad one they will feel quite literally mind-raped.
Mushrooms are highly personal. In a really bad trip people tend to feel molested by the drug on a startlingly intimate level. Hence, rape.
This is quite detrimental to establishing basic trust in the Mushroom, and I would introduce someone to the Mushroom to build a mature longterm relationship with it instead of getting high for kicks.
Us geezers got other priorities then the young'uns!
Please notice how the majority agrees that the time between sessions should be counted in months rather then weeks.
Last average I pulled was about 1x/2 months which has always been my personal recommendation but gets reflected in Group Consciousness.
I'm very pleased and pleasantly surprised how many of us are dancing with the Divine One for five years and over, and the 10+years group is very high. You can clearly see the mushroom *boom* was in the latter part of the 1990s, very much Shroomerites who got turned on then kept on Shroomin'
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Ekstaza]
#3423488 - 11/29/04 02:51 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I believe that if one is predisposed to spirituality, then they will have such an experience. I, myself, being an atheist tend to have an excursion into infinity, or a journey into nothingness.
What's in a name? Let's say it is likely to bring forth existential profundity. I have cut corners and called it spiritual, but as I see it it's the same force we're talking about.
"I use Profundogenic Mushrooms" 
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#3424036 - 11/29/04 05:10 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I can't wait to read your report, it shall reveal a nice amount of *real* information.
(On a side note, I followed your advice and now try to make my sig more informative. I've personally checked every one of them resources and find them a great source of practical information, the very same links I recommend to my friends)  
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Whats up im j and i am a big shroomer and i would just like to know if there are any special things that you can do in order to have the best trip. thanks
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: ShRooMHeAdJ]
#3429129 - 11/30/04 05:44 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Read The Psychedelic Experience FAQ.
Welcome to the Shroomery, but do your research!
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: ShRooMHeAdJ]
#3429159 - 11/30/04 05:53 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Here's some more links you might find helpful.
Tripper's FAQ
ESSENTIAL LINKS
Happy reading!
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#3429410 - 11/30/04 06:40 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
#3429523 - 11/30/04 07:08 PM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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I prefer tripping during the day... I love the bright colours, they make me happy when I'm tripping.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3432303 - 12/01/04 10:49 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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interesting points you've brought up. there have been a number of times when low doses have moved me into the otherworld with profound and lasting impact. although i must point out that i have also had profound and lasting spiritual contact with the otherworld on large amounts of teonanacatl.
actually, an experience similar to the one you recounted above, but with 5g dried.
my fellow shaman and i were camped in a high pass in the Canadian Rockies. we had spent the day gathering firewood from the treeline for a small fire (which in the end we did not light). the moon was in quarter phase and rose late. the profound silence and blackness with only the stars in their profusion above was a most profound experience of prebirth, and when the moon rose and lit the mountains below us we were most certainly in the otherworld.
since there is no way to render an understandable account in language (and the mere attempt would be to reduce the experience to the mundane), i will let you have to imagine what was like; surrounded in silver. (i am also quite certain that you can)
i have digressed from my point which was that while small doses provide deep spiritual experience when used correctly, one must not forget that now and then, you have to step bodily into the nagual/otherworld/whatever you want to call it. large doses have their place in dealing with the spirit world and the universe at large as well.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: audiovideodork]
#3432333 - 12/01/04 10:59 AM (4 years, 11 months ago) |
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i'm with you on this one.
lsd-25 is, however, a little more spiritual in my experience. i liken the two to this.
hongitos open the door to the otherworld. you walk in, look around or cast your magic, and leave.
lsd opens the door and plunks you somewhere on the other side without a map and lets you fend for yourself.
then again i have done some large doses of lsd.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: theknighterrant]
#3440935 - 12/03/04 02:31 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Woo-hoo! We're 2 voters away from making the last question pass the 100 voter mark, which means I can write a paper about it! 
TheKnighterRant, it may sound mundane but by all means read the manuscript called "Best Tripping Manual" linked in my sig. It's mushrooms from a medical/therapeutic viewpoint and for a fellow shaman it contains vital information
By no means did I want to come down harshly on high doses of mushrooms. They most certainly have their place. But, a trend I see is that most high-dosers trip high-dose only because it allows them to elude confrontation. These people are quite happy on higher doses but would feel very uncomfortable on low doses because a low dose doesn't tend to take you *AWAY* like a high dose can.
With a high dose many can flee into *un*spiritual realms whereas on a low dose you tend to be cast onto yourself. When on a high dose Spirituality/Profundity cannot be ignored anymore, it often comes in the form of a bad trip.
In the land of one-eighths and one-fourths I am the ambassador for the Low Dose. All of you, listen very carefully:
On a low dose you often get nagging uncomfortable feelings. These are not caused by insufficient dosage, but by your resistance against the flow of the Life Force and resistance against the way of the world. If you learn how to feel at peace with low, non-overwhelming doses you learn how to find higher peace with your Self and the Universe at large.
And many, far too many are not really present in THIS world, so it is pointless and even dangerous to have them exploring/fleeing into ANOTHER world.
You state yourself to be a shaman, therefore I consider you to be one.
My personal experience is that even with 0.5gr of mushrooms you can leave your body behind on the wings of this Plant Teacher.
The Mushroom is Sacred to me and so i see the value of the high dose and the low, and the spirituality of being with the live mushroom and letting it's attractive force pull you across the fields to find it.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3440950 - 12/03/04 02:46 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Very, very well said.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Cervantes]
#3442105 - 12/03/04 12:05 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Very, very well said.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: theknighterrant]
#3445281 - 12/04/04 09:39 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Snap!
135 people have voted until now and the least popular question passed the 100 voter mark!
Please vote if you haven't voted yet but with n = 100+ I can make a nice write-up of the preliminary results
I'll keep y'all posted!
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3446713 - 12/04/04 05:42 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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i shall pretend that 6,000 others haven't already said this and that i am somehow original in my praise:
great poll, WS! can't wait for the write up.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: twilight715]
#3448978 - 12/05/04 05:37 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Great poll!
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#3449335 - 12/05/04 09:33 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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n=100+ Well well well... You know what you have to do now right? 
Hahahaha, j/k. 
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
#3452017 - 12/05/04 09:25 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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 Good poll.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
#3467735 - 12/08/04 10:03 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Very interesting results. I especially find interesting that no one has spiritual but non-pleasurable trips. I'll make sure my g/f sees this, I'm trying to convince her to try mushis...
If she agrees, make sure she's totally willing and not doing it under pressure ( well, you know what I mean..) because not being truly convinced about it is surely a major risk factor for a catastrophic trip!
.fs.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: fIsh in my head]
#3469208 - 12/09/04 06:41 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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In one of the few instances he made sense Leary said:
LSD should never be given. It should only be taken.
Remember your GF looks up to you as the Experienced One and Lover. Remember that it's your responsibility she doesn't take the mushrooms to please you but as a personal choice.
Chinacat72's thread "LSD: from Crystal to Blotter" in Other Drugs might help too. If she isn't up to the long read or doesn't like what she sees, she might not be ready.
oh just look at that! 175 Shroomery Mushroom people did the poll and the least popular question got 134 replies.
As Tiny Tim said: "God bless you, ten-strips for every one of you!"
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3470302 - 12/09/04 11:54 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I LOVE strippers.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: fIsh in my head]
#3472468 - 12/09/04 07:12 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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fIsh in my head said:
If she agrees, make sure she's totally willing and not doing it under pressure ( well, you know what I mean..) because not being truly convinced about it is surely a major risk factor for a catastrophic trip!
.fs.
Yeah, I KNOW what you meant. Don't worry
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LSD should never be given. It should only be taken.
Remember your GF looks up to you as the Experienced One and Lover. Remember that it's your responsibility she doesn't take the mushrooms to please you but as a personal choice.
Chinacat72's thread "LSD: from Crystal to Blotter" in Other Drugs might help too. If she isn't up to the long read or doesn't like what she sees, she might not be ready.
Sure thing! "The thumbprint" thread is very a valuable read in this situation also
Don't worry tho, I'll make sure she has a wonderful time in the case she freely decides she wants to. She's not my first "babysitted" one either, but your advice is, as always, excellent, Wiccan
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3475895 - 12/10/04 12:03 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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interesting stuff in that link, seeker. it is a pity that the establishment frequently denies the use of lsd and other mind altering substances for mental therapy. ahh, the short sightedness of the government. have you read Grinspoon and Bakalar's "Psychedelic Drugs Reconsidered"? It is an in depth survey of psychedelic drugs and entheogens and their use in theraputic and non theraputic settings, the laws and the consequences of their use and illegality. Highly recommended. I would assume that you are also familiar with the works of Leary and McKenna. Particularly Leary's when he was first investigating the use of lsd and psilocin before his "conversion". Personally, I am not in line with some of his more radical ideas of lsd as a religion in itself, but a number of his other proposals are valuable. One in particular is the idea of a professional class of 'trip sitters' (for lack of a better term).
One a different note, sorry if my tone was harsh, but i don't think i was ranting!
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: theknighterrant]
#3476263 - 12/10/04 01:13 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Grinspoon and Bakalar's "Psychedelic Drugs Reconsidered" aaaah I read that as an early teen! as a 13yo i believe. One of the first good books that gave me real information!
Because scare tactics just don't cut it. Even as a kid you see right through it. And if you read alot and connect the dots.. That's how most books are writtemn nowadays.
There's a vast body of information, all you need is people who see the connection nobody saw before.
McKenna.. The problem with his audio tapes is that at first you get the overwhelming sensation he's a nutjob.
If you see a tape/.wmv (like Timewave Zero) you refine this to a recluse nutjob shunned by normalcy.
That turns people off. If you want peope to know what Psychedelics are the last person you want is McKenna.
Nontheless he and Leary have held great points of view and had amazing insights.
The perfect wedding between science and science-to-be in my view are the works of Stanislav Grof MD, particularly LSD PSYCHOTHERAPY. Independently of him I came to the conclusion that any part of the Universe holds the Whole entirely: The Holotropic Universe.
Fantastic read, he even discovered a method where you can reach psychedelic states without psychedelic drugs called "Holotropic Breathwork".
I really believe that Psychedelics should be ingrained into our culture, that there are centers where you can go and explore the Within with aid of Psychedelic professionals.
Sidney Cohen once said: "LSD might be a drug for the best of us, rather then the worst of us." And I think he was right. People with psychologic issues need intensive guidance of a medical nature whereas the reasonably healthy are more in need of a structural guidance.
Psychedelics up the ante: there is more to lose but also more to gain then if you were not to partake.
So many of us keep filling in the Poll and let themselves be heard for the good of the community... We're gathering information here that is up to the greatest psychedelic studies. Over 175 mushroom trippers from all ages, grades of experience and all over the world have already aded their info. The Shroomery is a treasure for Psychedelic information gathering!
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3489907 - 12/13/04 06:05 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Weeeee! Some questions have already passed the 200-voter mark
If you haven't voted yet, please do so and add to our knowledge!
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3495157 - 12/13/04 11:43 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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maybe get a sticky in the other forums directing users to THE GREAT MUSHROOM POLL? i think it would be very beneficial to the community to have an even larger number of surveyed folks. excellent poll, trully excellent.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: TODAY]
#3495544 - 12/14/04 01:30 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Especially cultivation, lots of trippers in there.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Cervantes]
#3496543 - 12/14/04 10:18 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wish there were some more polls.
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#3554485 - 12/28/04 08:47 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Shroom sepositories? Eat them! For their sake if not your own. How could someone mistake which end to put 'em in? How would that compare, they wouldn't even digest.....
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#3559370 - 12/29/04 10:14 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am new to all of this, but I thank all of you for the insights and experiences to relate to. I have never tripped or taken any psychedilic before and am anxious to try mushrooms out. I am attempting to grow some and they seem to be doing fairly well so far. I have good colonization in 11 out of 12 half pint jars and hopefully in the next month or so can report on my first time to trip. Thanks for the updates and the info!
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: PSYTECKIE]
#3562036 - 12/30/04 03:47 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I am new to all of this, but I thank all of you for the insights and experiences to relate to. I have never tripped or taken any psychedilic before and am anxious to try mushrooms out. I am attempting to grow some and they seem to be doing fairly well so far. I have good colonization in 11 out of 12 half pint jars and hopefully in the next month or so can report on my first time to trip. Thanks for the updates and the info!
Hey, welcome to the Shroomery!
Use the coming weeks to learn everything there is to know about mushrooms. Read the site beyond these boards, visit www.erowid.org anmd click some of my links, they give access to some very good articles
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3564835 - 12/31/04 10:19 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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i thought it sounded like you knew your stuff. Grinspoon and Bakalar did some solid work, and i was particularly fascinated with how much argument went into the attempt to locate the proper term of reference for these substances (ei: what do we call them?). They were at least aware that diction determines ontology. Names have power.
McKenna did some solid anthropology too, though he does come across as a nut case sometimes. indeed, i am rather taken with his argument in "Food of the Gods" that self awareness, language and spirituality gave rise co-dependantly through primate hallucinogen use.
Grof's techniques (or ones closely approximating their results if not the particular format) for inducing hallucinogenic states are rather widespread in certain cultures where hallucinogen use is minimal or nonexistant (i am thinking of india here in particular, despite soma, which to me has not yet been positively identified and is clearly a lost sacrament). Eliade presents the argument (one i do not agree with) that hallucinogen use in religious/shamanic ritual is representative of 'degenerated' cultures where previously used non-substance related ecstatic techniques were lost. Harner also did some interesting work with breathing and drumming. Grof was clearly on to something, however i do have some problems with the theory of the holotropic universe. i believe that the universe is far stranger and mysterious than that, working from principles we are only beginning to comprehend. The idea of holographic conciousness is very compelling however. . .
it remains one of the great tragedies of theraputic medicine that hallucinogen psychotherapy was suspended. it worked for our ancestors for thousands and thousands of years.
"Psychedelics up the ante: there is more to lose but also more to gain then if you were not to partake." indeed. there is the old saw that man can never study the mind because we must use the mind to do so. i feel that psychedelics allow just such a study by altering our consciousness and allow at least semi-detatched self reflexion. One thinks and feels in a different manner. such a state can be useful in understanding your own consciousness and sapience. of course i could be talking out of my ass.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
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Thanks for the welcome. I am quite the fan of Erowid and have used it extensively to research other natural substances such as wild dagga, salvia divinorum, cannabis and acorus calamus. There is so much information here it is hard to tell where to start, however seeing the pictures in the grow teks gets me very excited! I'll keep you guys updated on things go when I get to that first trip.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: PSYTECKIE]
#3618003 - 01/12/05 12:59 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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great poll! I haven't posted in years (literally) but I'm not the least surprised to see this place turn into a real mecca of knowledge. 6 years ago I was lost, looking for deeper answers to the meaningful questions of life. The shroomery is one of a handful of resources I found that changed my life forever, and remains that way today, on so many levels.
At college, I had some friends who would insist you couldn't have a "good" trip (meaning achieving that sense of awe and connection with the universe) unless at least 2-2.5grams were ingested. I am happy to see that many people feel a single gram can be enough to send you to the moon. Wiccan_Seeker: you are absolutely right about putting yourself in nature on a moonless night, in cases like this, a gram is more than enough to invoke tremendous feelings. I think we live in an age of information(sensory)-overload, so much that we tend to block out much of what surrounds us. Edit: consider sensory deprivation, or imagine being in one of those tubs, a hallucination within itself. This can detract from a trip if you do not open yourself to the new perspective you're given on mushrooms, and is likely the reason my friends felt a medium dose was absolutely necessary.
we can't forget, tripping is not for everyone. Although I feel the majority of people who have never experienced a psychedelic experience could benefit from such an experience, sometimes its as though the opportunity to permanently change ones perspective has already fled and the utility in tripping would thus be severely dwindled (if that doesnt make sense I apologize) the bottom line is don't pressure yourself or anyone into tripping, it has to be a self-made decision, this is KEY!!!
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: kake]
#3620184 - 01/12/05 07:16 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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So Wiccan... May I ask how is the paper going? Have you started writting it yet?
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 Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Colonel Kurtz Ph.D]
#3642342 - 01/18/05 06:16 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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So Wiccan... May I ask how is the paper going? Have you started writting it yet?
Nope, I've decided to get as many responses as we can get before writing that paper, which I will. It's amazing how many Shroomerites are responding!
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3645191 - 01/18/05 07:30 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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GREAT poll, very interesting. A question, which I would make a thread but I'm new to the forms... I have always tripped with around a half an 8th at a time. I have enjoyed that, and while I may think about upping the dosage a bit I would like to know if you dose, then once you start to feel effects strongly (maybe an hour or so in) dose again.. Do you stay around the same level for a longer time or do you just keep going on up? Is it possible to repeat this over and over? Are you better off just taking a bunch at once? Help me out here..
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: DeviantPenguin]
#3647245 - 01/19/05 06:14 AM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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I would say that your better off just doseing once, especially if your new to the drug.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: DeviantPenguin]
#3770954 - 02/12/05 01:11 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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For me, it doesn't work. I've done 4 then when the peak passed did another 2 to try and prolong the peak. Didn't happen. It just seemed to make the wind down last longer. I think you may only have one peak in you due to the depletion of neurohumors.
To WS, don't read too much into the low numbers of people who have been tripping for 20+ years. Don't forget the bias inherent in your sample group, i.e. overwhelmingly in their 20's.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: zappaisgod]
#3774087 - 02/13/05 12:31 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hmmm, No Ps. Mexicana in the list.
The Fruit of the Ps. Mexicana is my favorite!!
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: zappaisgod]
#3778597 - 02/14/05 12:13 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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The trick is to re-dose BEFORE or DURING the peak, not after.
The problem is, if you re-dose before the peak, you have NO CLUE how hard you are going to trip w/o the re-dose.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3787507 - 02/16/05 12:57 AM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I would introduce someone to the Mushroom to build a mature longterm relationship with it instead of getting high for kicks.
Us geezers got other priorities then the young'uns!
me too. im 19 tho. it dont take me long for things. but there are so many more things! i cant wait! but ya they are better when its just not for kicks.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#3867963 - 03/04/05 01:24 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: sever]
#3869736 - 03/04/05 07:17 PM (4 years, 8 months ago) |
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I imagine, as long as Wiccan is here, there will be a new poll every year
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Cervantes]
#3926069 - 03/16/05 03:13 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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I was very surprised on way of ingesting them, 'anus'? That's a new one. I like alot of light in my trips, nature in the dark vs day, I'd chose day. I know I'll still have just as much fun either way. I think a question of where you're from in the poll would be good. I've never heard of anyone eating less than an 8th. Pacific Northwest. I think someone shrooming and someone not, do not go well together. Unless-that person is a shroomer, sorta. My first trip I had blue ringers, I don't what the scientific name is though. I'm very sorry for those whos trips aren't always easy as pie, and those who have ever had a bad trip. It's all positive to me so far.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#4003231 - 04/01/05 11:39 PM (4 years, 7 months ago) |
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19% sticks their mushrooms up their anus?!
Are we truthin' on that one, people?
Well I've heard tell of people making a tea letting it cool then inserting it up the ass. My friend works in an ER and said that at the local collage, he gets one to two people trippin so hard from the shroom enema a month that they need a narcotic to help them calm down. 
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Mykul]
#4286065 - 06/12/05 09:06 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I hope not, when I read anus I was like whoa, nothing is ever going to be shoved up there, that's a one Way Hershey highway, not a two way tunnel >_<
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Shr00m86]
#4303636 - 06/16/05 12:51 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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lmao does it give you the same affect if you put them in your anus...... lol and why is it becuase ov the taste or what
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: MM_MM]
#4306603 - 06/17/05 02:22 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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The Strongest Trip I ever had was with cuz at a funtion I had 7-9g of cys and 3-5g or blue ringers It was Interesting If you were there you would remeber the great discusion of different things in the yurt and my third nipple
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: TrippleNipple]
#4355791 - 06/30/05 02:42 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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dude that was a very insightful poll props on that bro
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#4356481 - 06/30/05 05:46 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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great poll! can't believe i only just noticed it.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: Wiccan_Seeker]
#4374820 - 07/06/05 05:21 AM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've only tripped a few times and they've all been fresh from home. I took a a big dose my first time. 4.5 grams I believe. I prefer to trip alone in the dark...but it's cool with others as well. I tripped with my mother once.
I don't do it often and I do it for spritual purposes only.
I don't know if I'll trip forever...but I'm sure I'll trip again.
Awesome polls!
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: CaRnAgECaNdY]
#4390039 - 07/10/05 03:22 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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I find that when I trip with my friends who do drugs that i have generally worry my self into a bad trip cus they do something stupid and act very loud when were outside or very late at night.
They get mad at me because i usually keep my feelings and emotions to myself when I do trip
I find that when I am alone I usually don't have a bad trip.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: MrMolotov]
#4402927 - 07/14/05 09:43 AM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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That is a great poll, interesting and mostly expected results to me...
I was surprised to learn that more people ingest shrooms through their anus then smoking them  (not that smoking them is great or does any good IMO)
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: scatmanrav]
#4418872 - 07/18/05 12:17 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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great stuff!
The next one should be oriented at the general inside nature of the trips...
As things go im thinking more and more about recording the trips with a voicethingy because the conversations you have with your friends are way too crazy to remember all and many bear insightfull details or remarks which come from the heart and usually when you have good trips (ive been bad-trip-free for + than 2 years) the comedown is so special and enjoyable that i seem to forget the earlier parts of the trips (conversations, topic etc) and those are the most honest and intense parts thus the most "content-rich".
Im sorry for talking off topic anyway think about that paper, 500+ replies at least is a good viable indicator ; can be very helpfull for 1st timers i think.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: scatmanrav]
#4418946 - 07/18/05 12:53 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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A shroom tea enema, have not tried it, but could be interesting, especially for those that have serious problems with their stomach. Probably would kick in quicker too.
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Re: The Great Mushrooms Poll: Shroom Secrets Revealed! [Re: gdman]
#4419033 - 07/18/05 01:24 PM (4 years, 3 months ago) |
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A shroom tea enema, have not tried it, but could be interesting, especially for those that have serious problems
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