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So true. The beginning is not in the past and the end is not in the future. Both are annihilated in the present.
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Rebirtha
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 Re: Mayans  [Re: Swami]
#3380510 - 11/18/04 04:54 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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Swami said:
The Mayans were right on about everything.
Yes, we should ALL perform human sacrifices.
They were right about Cortez being God.
And they foresaw their own demise - NOT!
that was the aztects *rolls eyes*
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Rebirtha
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Most of you guys dont' know much about what you are talking about, but argue anyway.
The I Ching: ancient chinese table used for predicting things. (some might call it a divination chart)
McKenna (which I heard him explain it in a lecture I downloaded) figures out crazy ways to manipulate the patterns in I ching. He ends up with 3 numbers. The numbers seem random to him at first. He does a search and finds out the numbers are astrological numbers. He plots them on a Graph. This is called "novelty graph" its a graph of time. the end date is December 21, 2012.
The Mayans did astrological studies and made predictions based on their astrological studies. They predicted December 21, 2012. This was done nearly 5,000 years ago.
Both groups have the same date, and the mayans made their prediction nearly 5000 years ago. Its not some shit thought up by a cooky clan of people. There is no need to believe in Nostradamus and others because they have been wrong about ALOT of the things they predict. well. the mayans? 0%. you guys are all gonna be fucked because you have no idea what you are talking about.
oh yeah, the economy is gonna collapse. just remember 'i told you so'
If you want more information:
compare McKenna's Time Wave Zero Theory, to the Mayans. They both found the exact same date of December 21, 2012. Can anybody explain how they both found the same date? Doesn't that seem a little ridiculous to be fake?
Edited by Rebirtha (11/18/04 05:08 PM)
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rdnp2035
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Do you guys use the Mayan calender?
http://www.starroot.com/cgi/daycalc.pl
http://www.icandosomething.com/mayancalendar/
http://home.earthlink.net/~cosmichand/
http://www.galactichardwarestore.com/tribes%20_2.htm
Check it out and see how well the daily code matches up with reality, or how you match up with your birth day. I've found it's a great tool to see things more clearly.
Also, I think part of the deal with 2012 Dec. 21 is that we are going to be passing through the central galactic plane, we'll be in the middle disk of the galaxy. And that date (every year) is when the sun is at it's lowest point in the horizon, where it stays for a few days (for some strange reason the rise and fall of the sun's position in the sky is on hold for a couple days, hovering at this low point), until it begins to rise again on the 25th. That's what I've heard at least.
As a side note, there's some confusion about who the maya are in this thread. Some of the information being put out that relates to the inca, not maya. You're debating the legitimacy of one of the great civilizations of all time, one of only a handful to develop an independent system of writing, based on the misinformation that you learn in grade school on multiple cultures in the region..and combining it all together.
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Its a bit vague, but it claims i'm night tribe..... I cant figure out what relavence the surrounding images have though, as the one in the middle is what you are then theres four that surround it... what are they all about? Night tribe fits me reasonably well
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Huehuecoyotl
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At the end of the Mayan calendar they believed the world was destroyed and recreated and then the calendar started over. It was merely symbolic of the renewel of time. They believed that this had occurred six other times, I believe. This is not a doomsday prophecy just a symbol of the cyclic nature of events.
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Huehuecoyotl
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Swami:
"The Mayans were right on about everything.
Yes, we should ALL perform human sacrifices.
They were right about Cortez being God.
And they foresaw their own demise - NOT!"
I think you are referencing the Aztecs...the city based Mayan civilization collapsed before the coming of Cortez.
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MovingTarget
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Quote:
Huehuecoyotl said:
At the end of the Mayan calendar they believed the world was destroyed and recreated and then the calendar started over. It was merely symbolic of the renewel of time. They believed that this had occurred six other times, I believe. This is not a doomsday prophecy just a symbol of the cyclic nature of events.
Which for some may seem like the end of the world as they know it.
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Swami
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I think you are referencing the Aztecs...the city based Mayan civilization collapsed before the coming of Cortez.
So you think the Mayans were RIGHT about Cortez?! 
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Rebirtha
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Quote:
Huehuecoyotl said:
At the end of the Mayan calendar they believed the world was destroyed and recreated and then the calendar started over. It was merely symbolic of the renewel of time. They believed that this had occurred six other times, I believe. This is not a doomsday prophecy just a symbol of the cyclic nature of events.
When time renews it won't be the same as this time. Our minds will be thinking on a different level.
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Swami
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that was the aztects
What is an aztect?
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Swami
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The Mayans did astrological studies and made predictions based on their astrological studies. They predicted December 21, 2012. This was done nearly 5,000 years ago.
I predict May 23, 2008 will fall on May 23, 2008.
y both found the exact same date of December 21, 2012. Can anybody explain how they both found the same date? Doesn't that seem a little ridiculous to be fake?
There you have it folks. Conclusive proof!  Ever hear of back-fitting data?
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MovingTarget
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Re: Mayans [Re: Swami]
#3381686 - 11/18/04 08:48 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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are you in the right forum?
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Swami
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For what? Isn't this the "Green Room" where they are holding the wedding reception of Mr.and Mrs. Randall McGillicutty?
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Rebirtha
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Re: Mayans [Re: Swami]
#3381852 - 11/18/04 09:17 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
Swami said:
The Mayans did astrological studies and made predictions based on their astrological studies. They predicted December 21, 2012. This was done nearly 5,000 years ago.
I predict May 23, 2008 will fall on May 23, 2008.
y both found the exact same date of December 21, 2012. Can anybody explain how they both found the same date? Doesn't that seem a little ridiculous to be fake?
There you have it folks. Conclusive proof! Ever hear of back-fitting data?
this is probably one of the dumbest things i've read. They didn't predict a date based on a date. They predicted a date based on the stars converted into a calender. Back-fitting data? Terrence McKenna proves step by step how he go to the conclusion he did and has written several books about it.
It just so happens on December 21, 2012 that the Sun will move to a unique spot in the sky -- and hold still for a while, since it is solstice day. The Sun will sit precisely on the heavenly crossroads between the Milky Way and the galactic equinox, forming a perfect alignment with the center of the galaxy.
this only happens every 28,500 years. Give the mayans some fucking credit. till an hour ago you didn't even know the difference between maya and the aztec.
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Swami
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this is probably one of the dumbest things i've read.
Then apparently you did not read your own post.
It just so happens on December 21, 2012 that the Sun will move to a unique spot in the sky --
The sun is always in a "unique" spot, you just happen to choose to assign special meaning to some arbitrary position.
and hold still for a while, since it is solstice day.
I see. On that day the laws of physics will be suspended.
The Sun will sit precisely on the heavenly crossroads between the Milky Way and the galactic equinox, forming a perfect alignment with the center of the galaxy.
Is this poetry or science? There is no heavenly crossroad, no precise galactic center and certainly no "alignment" with a non-existeing point.
this only happens every 28,500 years.
What happens? Nothing at all.
Give the mayans some fucking credit.
They are dead and credit will do them no good.
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Re: Mayans [Re: Swami]
#3382079 - 11/18/04 10:22 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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So far, here are the facts in this thread:
The Mayans predicted the world will end, perhaps symbolically, 12/21/2012
Terrance McKenna had this date as the point where his novelty graph will cross the x axis.
Nothing Else!!! No, "people will be on a different plane" NO reason to believe that. Yeah, you can find it on a nutjob's website. Yeah, he is using the date the Mayans predicted, but can someone give me a source where Mayans predict "Different dimentions will merge on this date?"
And give me a fucking break with the timewave zero. McKenna (R.I.P.) himself barely took it seriously- read his chapter in "Rational Mysticism" (can't recall author). You are missing the point if you are concentration on where it hits zero--- It is just a awesome way of looking at time, Instead of the usual good/evil dichotomies (yawn)- Novelty being a function of it--- A masterpiece by a true novelty seeker. 
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Re: Mayans [Re: Swami]
#3382182 - 11/18/04 10:44 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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keep going people, some useful stuff being discussed here.
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Eilya555
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pretty isn't she...we have a date...12/21/12...lol...
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There is no prediction that the material world will end, instead it is ?written in the stars? that our current time cycle will come to its conclusion.
The mayans had a different perception and experience of the procession of time. They possessed a very comprehensive astronomy and knew things about the skies and the celestial bodies that the western world has only (re)discovered in this century! (They knew about precession, for instance, so their measurements of celestial movements and events is incredibly exact)
They perceived time to be cyclic, and that these cycles fit into each others according to certain frequencies, most importantly the 13:20. The large cycle of time they perceived is ending on 21/12/2012.
We are shifting into a different frequency, and this shift offers an enormous opportunity for us, on a level of consciousness. What happens on the material level is subject to this change, we create our own reality in a very litteral and direct manner.
also, i wanted to ask swami:
What exactly is your issue? Is there a point to your replies?
Its pretty obvious that you either dont know anything about the subject and have not read nor comprehended anything written in this thread, or do know something and you?re just fucking with people.
Is there actually anything you wish to say, or are you just a reasonably intelligent bored youngster who gets off on nitpicking on little spelling errors. The only thing you are debunking here is your own credibility and intelligence.
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