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Re: PF Tek: Why is there so much substrate mix left over?! *DELETED* [Re: Anno]
    #2627339 - 05/02/04 07:58 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: PF Tek: Why is there so much substrate mix left over?! [Re: failbot999]
    #2629122 - 05/02/04 08:03 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

This is a question every newbie ask
It's begining to look like Anno is the only one to know
Lots of good guess's through
Spark one up and think about it
Someone should win that print
:goodluck:


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Anno Any1 right? [Re: Anno]
    #2637733 - 05/04/04 04:59 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Anno whats up who is right and who gets the Azure?


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Re: PF Tek: Why is there so much substrate mix left over?! [Re: ShroomNoob03]
    #2644817 - 05/06/04 09:45 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

i think that the reason there is always so much left over is the old PF Tek suggested packing the jars tightly and now we pack them lightly. but the recipe is about double, same thing happened to me and i followed the recipe to the letter.

as to the question of how long you can wait to sterilize. i made some jars up and and covered them with foil and put in the frig for 36 hours and then sterilized. eveything is fine and the jars are colonizing nicely. also i made a batch of jars and sterilized them and waited 36 hours to innoculate and that is fine too

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Re: PF Tek: Why is there so much substrate mix left over?! [Re: daisybird]
    #2657649 - 05/09/04 04:50 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Somebody's got to know? :thumbup:
A good guess.

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Re: PF Tek: Why is there so much substrate mix left over?! [Re: ShroomNoob03]
    #2657729 - 05/09/04 05:16 PM (19 years, 11 months ago)

for one, when you mix things around the ingrediants gain volume by getting air inbetween the clumps thats the biggest part of why so much is left. Look at the bags of just verm and just brown rice flour and of course water... do you see any air inbetween the particles??? (maybe you see a tiny bit in the verm but look at all that and then a freshly made PF jar)


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Re: Anno Any1 right? [Re: ButterNut]
    #2672468 - 05/13/04 06:41 AM (19 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah anno whats the deal
a cat is about to do a few jars
Here is what cat does;

As I am using glasses with foil for jars, I measure out
the amount of total mass I am gonna need with the verm. Filling
every glass to within 2 cm of rim then put this into a
container that measures cups to get the total ammount of
substrate I need in cups)then I take out 1/4 of the mass and
replace with BRF then add water and everytime I get a significant proportion
leftover.
I am trying this again and will record the amount of leftovers
So far the total ammount of subst. I need tonite is 10 cups
Report back later
TREV


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Re: Anno Any1 right? [Re: trev]
    #2693697 - 05/17/04 09:58 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Anno any of us even close? :shrug:


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Re: Anno Any1 right? [Re: KaptKid]
    #2695730 - 05/18/04 11:39 AM (19 years, 10 months ago)

How lame, Anno never even bothered to reply. Don't people get their ratings dropped for reneging on prizes?

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Re: Anno Any1 right? [Re: chrisdab]
    #2755027 - 06/01/04 10:23 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Anno I don't care about any prize.
I just want to know for myself.

Hell do away with the prize  JUST let us know.


Oh ya made for 12 1/2pt jars. Filled 14 and about a 1/4 jars.
:tongue:eace: :regularshroom: :tripping: :usa: :weirdeyes:

Tell us, even Magash has a gess
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Re: PF Tek: Why is there so much substrate mix left over?! [Re: Anno]
    #2755080 - 06/01/04 10:40 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

My guess:
Because it's better to have too much than too little. Different people use different kinds of verm, some people grind their own rice, and so forth... The recipe as it stands ensures that you'll have enough substrate to fill your jars, regardless of these variables.

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Re: Anno Any1 right? [Re: ShroomNoob03]
    #2756768 - 06/02/04 12:52 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

You could try not making as much! Seemed simple to me..

-J

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Re: Anno Any1 right? [Re: ButterNut]
    #2757359 - 06/02/04 03:32 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

The second part (or ONE part of several) is the fact that the recipe changed over time.

The original recipe called for

1/8 cup of brown rice powder (Health food stores and co-ops)
1/2 - 2/3 cup of horticultural vermiculite (medium grade) (garden centers and hardware)
40-45 cc's (milliliters) of water or (a little less than 1/4 cup) (1&1/2 ounces) (3 tablespoons + 1 teaspoon)
( http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23593/pag/1 )

the new recipe calls for

1/4 cup of brown rice powder
1/2 cup of vermiculite
60 cc's water
( http://www.shroomery.org/index/par/23593/pag/8 )

As you can see if you mix the ingredients together, the new recipe gives quite some more substrate. More than fits a jar.

Now who earns a print??

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Re: Anno Any1 right? [Re: Anno]
    #2757391 - 06/02/04 03:40 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Me?






:lol:


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Re: Anno Any1 right? [Re: ShroomNoob03]
    #2757409 - 06/02/04 03:46 PM (19 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, the recipe is for 1 pint jars. It has to be, i also came out with exactly DOUBLE the amount i needed. I knew it before i even started, and sure enough when i tried it, i was alblke to fill all of the jars with half the amount of substrate as the recipe called for.


I was just going to bring this up, im glad someone else finally noticed.

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