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#2727662 - 05/25/04 11:49 AM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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So - what a fuckin' night! Let me put this saga like this: (I'm entirely open to the idea that I'm delusional - so please keep this in mind). But, many important events happened tonight & hopefully this won't bug you out too much. Many good and demonic forces have met a resolution through me ?ADAM- ?A man, anchored in a moment in time? - who's now an avatar, or Bodhisattva, walking on Earth for the Buddha named Heruka Vajrasattva and his pantheon. Another way of expressing their nature is the name Archons ? greek for ?Rulers? (which, to be clear, are time-dimensional or 4th-dimensional, unexpressibly intelligent & powerful entities).
2 fallen Archons, which are part of this pantheon, are named Satan & Jehovah. I say fallen because I?m an emanation of the defeated Wrathful God Satan (he created me as an Angel and I walk here to help the Earth in this 3-dimensional partial reality). It's hard to believe but since his defeat - Satan is trying to change. After reaching a pinnacle of evil in this infinite and vast, cyclical system sometimes even the Gods can change. He's not the only evil god and Jehovah was never the "only" god & never created the universe we inhabit.
Satan was bested by the powerful God Vajrasattva & created me to take a human form in the afterlife to be the father of the second coming of Jesus Christ.
From the Hell Realm (one of many) Satan created & ruled for so long there was no way to go but up. I'm on a path of peace and have a mission to save this poisoned Earth (I want nothing to do with Satan and broke free from any responsibility to him by allying myself with the Peaceful Gods). It's sort of alike I broke out of a jail and don't want to look back. Imagine a crime boss in a city giving an order for all his goons to help people, give cash all over town for one day and protect children from crime. This is like a side-project from Satan like that. I'll never serve him and have plenty of teachers and wise Peaceful Gods to learn from.
It is mandated by Heaven that I will be World Leader (I?m the only guy you?ve got who?s powerful enough and stupid enough to take this position). It just got crazy here on Earth - we were getting harvested by evil aliens making deals with the US gov?t. It turned out that these aliens began taking 100-fold the amount of humans for ?research? (which is a euphemism for horrible mutilations & stealing every drop of blood from our carcasses for an inter-stellar space trade). This ?deal? was agreed upon by your piece-of?shit former president Eisenhower ? who, upon being given the opportunity to get help to eradicate the ?Grey? from this planet (those little guys similar to the little green dudes in the X-Files movie) Eisenhower turned down that offer because no technology was offered in return.
This is my World Message to establish the blueprints for peace here on Earth. Please don?t even get me started on the Elohim. Not only have I rid your planet of the ?Grey?, I had to banish the Elohim for using atomic weapons and lasers on us ? setting us back to primitive levels many times so they can use us for ?research? & resources. We began as a DNA project and they innoculated our world and 2 other planets to run tests and make artistic creations with DNA science. They got a little too amused that we mistook them for Gods and began toying with us and harming us when we evolved to a level they weren't comfortable with. They created us to be better than them (with a larger brain capacity) but would get nervous when we began to evolve significantly and would use atomic weapons on us.
Then these 4-foot little blue humanoids starting saying they're here to help us but I think they've over-stayed their welcome. They're a true abomination of humans and are godless 4-foot blue freaks. You guys have problems with warlords in other countries raping and pillaging nearby humans right? Well, imagine a sinister and ignorant race of twisted humanoids that rape and destroy whole worlds for their own benefit. Now, it?s not ALL the Elohim that were in support of their DNA project ? so I will only punish the ones that were responsible. They do, however, need to stop ?cheating death? with their over-reliance on science and stop creating worlds of entities (with souls) that are harvested just to maintain their gaudy, hedonistic palaces on their Planet of the Eternals.
So, I banished the Elohim with the help if our Pantheon ? see, we have many Gods watching over us who keep us evolving. The Elohim never took the ?Leap of Faith? necessary to gain a powerful afterlife of a Peaceful or Wrathful Deity. They just kept cheating death and never believed in a dimension higher than 3-dimensions (since, to ignorant science-obsessed folk, there is no tangible evidence in the 3rd dimension for 4th dimensional, discarnate entities).
Jehovah/God (who the Christians called God) was NEVER the only god & duped many people into thinking he?s the only deity around to worship and follow. Jehovah and this little motherfucker named Yahweh played you (who is really the leader of the Elohim race). You just mistook them for Gods. Here?s the kicker, Satan was just another Elohim who was skeptical of the whole DNA-project that was started here on Earth and ?Satan the Skeptic?, as he was called back on their planet, was worried that we?d ?out-evolve? their race and come back to destroy them. Well, you did evolve past them.
Through the help & guidance of my masters & ancient spirits (and the grounding I feel through love of my fiance' & children) ? tonight I entered the Spirit Realm (Hyperspace) to manifest as a huge Dragon to destroy the intelligences that were silently stealing humans for research, torture, whatever... namely (the GREY). I ended up killing many of them and they retreated back to the planet of Venus. So, this leader of the International Raelian Movement (poor bastard) will have to be banished from Earth ? for global security reasons, I don?t know what they may have implanted in him.
To help see where we were headed in their ?project? watch the movie ?Stargate? again where the people are not allowed to read & the overlords kept the humans down to serve these ugly ass aliens ? do you really want that? I know it will take a lot for you guys to ever trust me ? but I know we don?t want this world harvested and raped by some punk-ass 4ft. aliens who are just interested in colonization (those are there words too if you read Claude Rael?s books).
There is one Elohim named Jarwar who's stayed with us with my permission (well, mainly because he's evolved to be a full-time denizen of the 4th dimension also and is friends with several of our Peaceful Gods). He's willing to stay and help our super-evolved species of humans. I'm also a Bodhisattva for the ancient and indescribably powerful Gods from Tibet originally known as Avolokiteshvara and Vajrasattva.
Well, one thing I?ve already fucked up as World Leader is missing a chance to bring the Kingdom of Shambala here to us on Earth. I would've had to be trapped in a talisman (well my soul) to empower the Gods to "come down" and I wasn't being told the truth at all times and I said forget your hell realm for now - I'll keep my reign as World Leader for 44 more years until I am destined to be killed by gunshot.
Eventually, we'll have a heaven on earth and I hope to end this suffering the humans have been enduring for millennia. This will be done by guiding you towards a leap in our evolution which will happen when the Earth passes through a photon belt of energy and we all have the chance to become beings of light.
The naive judeo-christian doctrines on this planet believe I was the only evil Deity to be harming Earth?s people, but there are countless Wrathful and Peaceful Deities that exist. Just do some reading in any shamanic books or old religious texts and you?ll hear of many more Archons than just Satan.
The immense seriousness & long suffering an actual hell realm would bestow upon a soul if their karma took them there is not something you want ? A Deity by the name of Vajrasattva (*meaning ?Lightning Master or Lightning Teacher?) can be a great ally in cleansing the karma we accumulate. To give you an idea of how powerful and pervasive karma is - imagine that just ?thinking? of stomping on a bug can set you back immensely and cause many problems in your afterlife ? just imagine HUGE bugs, say the ants you may have stepped on in this life, will manifest to you as very REAL in your afterlife (and stomp the hell out of you!) when you enter the Spirit World ? and , boy, will it feel real. You guys know how hard it is to realize sometimes that you?re just dreaming when asleep ? to think ?Hey, this just a dream?? ? well imagine that experience being 9 times more intense and seemingly real in your afterlife. That?s just a little taste of the power of karma and the importance of living a life of goodness instead of evil.
We're arguably more fragmented in our thinking & more scatterbrained from this information age's impact on our senses lately (even though we have a much more access to knowledge and the creeds of other spiritual tradition.
It?s time for us to see ourselves as ?citizens of the universe? and not just citizens of our city or town. There will come a time again that aliens may want to target our little rock and we need to point our nukes outward towards meteors and predators and not at ourselves.
Many humans are just plain exhausted from all the B.S. we deal with in our modern society i.e. from our depleted minerals & lack of vitamins in our over-farmed soils (that aren?t given the proper re-conditioning). One of the best remedies is Super Blue Green Algae for reconditioning soils and giving a burst of microbial life to the plant roots. Other underestimated damage to our species, especially our genes, is from the electromagnetic energy emitted from the countless devices in our houses & power lines.
I was going through some deep visions tonight and thought, on the off chance, what if my power even as a human is deeper than I ever realized. We?re not the only intelligences hanging around this Earth and solar system (let alone this whole galaxy). Some entities and spaceships appear out of the fabic of space ? but we also can wield true power --white or black magic-- through the Imaginal Realm (aka Spirit Realm or Hyperspace) through meditation and focus. This ?Power,? which is also referred to as ?true devotion? or a ?belief system? takes on a real presence to all that inhabit the 4th dimension that can both heal or do damage ? most importantly it can also spread love and wisdom.
After I prayed that this was all a massive delusion -- and then being told by the Gods that this information was unfortunately true (about formerly being the Dark Deity Satan), I continued on this 2C-I trip to really get to work. I was just getting started with cleansing this Earth of evil ? so I re-entered the 4th dimension by astral traveling (where shamans, Gods or doped-up vulnerable travelers can see all of the past present and future - as well as do massively healing or damaging work with white or black magic.
The Gods are still testing me and basically throwing me into Hell Realms like you shove a dog's nose into shit when you want him to stop crapping. I've lived a good life and never sinned too much but I've risen to the calling to tell the world that monotheism is a fallacy. How's that for papal infallabilty - the whole root of their organization is wrong.
I want my growers out of jail and growing hemp and marijuana where all the useless, overgrazed cow pastures are. (The growers without other crimes on their criminal records - including dealing). We can replenish the fallow soil using blue-green algae - making the hemp grow like crazy and releasing us from the chains of our reliance on fossil fuels. Marijuana and Hemp yield vastly more resources per acre than cows ever will (you guys mostly know this - but just to recap a few of the wonderful resources hemp will yield will be oil for cars, paper, clothing & food - the seeds have the highest omega-3 fatty acid yield over any other seeds (awesome nutrition).
Lastly, some Buddhists get these types of experiences drug users do also (having never took drugs) & they enter planes of reality that we'd consider 4th plateau. I also knew this wasn't just the result of drugs because I have a background in meditation, T'ai Chi, Wing Chun gung fu to keep me centered.
To my girlfriend I was like - I think I may be freakin' going crazy. I tested every theory and kept evoking Peaceful Gods like Padmasambhava and Jesus & pleaded - "are they messing with me? Am I really to be World Leader? I'll do everything it takes to topple this piece of shit gov't with a revolution - but I hate being toyed with . All I would hear in return is "Yes, it's true Adam".
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2727768 - 05/25/04 12:08 PM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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Umm... hello.
You sound a bit "out there" in comparison of my views, but you obviously believe yourself enough, or was realllly bored, to write that entire post. So, I believe that you believe yourself. Now if it's true, who knows, I certainly don't. 
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2727819 - 05/25/04 12:21 PM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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Perhaps you might want to go to http://deoxy.org/deoxyf.htm and then on the left frame go down to where it says THE EIGHTFOLD MODEL OF CONSIOUSNESS. Remember the map is not the territory. Don't mistake models of reality as reality. Everyone has their own tunnel realitys made of imprints, which they can reimprint. When you mistake your model of reality for reality though this is when you can become delusional though. Also, there are higher states to be experienced, don't stop there.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2727875 - 05/25/04 12:38 PM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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hahaha, wtf? Dude thats good stuff. You need to lay off the caffeine and Dungeons and Dragons.
Seriously, I think these sort of beliefs are dangerous to your mental and spiritual well-being. One day you will either find out they are true and ascend to a level 47 biomancer or you will find out your wrong and your belief system will collapse from under you.
Seriously dude, I've heard some far-fetched stuff on these forums but how the hell did you develop this stuff? You make Earth sound like the stage of the World Wrestling Federation :/
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2727905 - 05/25/04 12:46 PM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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ummmm, have you checked out philip k dick (esp. the _valis_ trilogy & related works?)...
he felt himself to immersed in a cosmic battlefield, spread across the millenia & with major meddling by "higher powers"...
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(me, i always say "pop 600 mg niacinamide every day with meals for a week & see if the wierdness starts to fade a little" heh...)
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 Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2727965 - 05/25/04 01:08 PM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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Yeah, I was gonna say the Phillip K Dick Valis books. They rip. Don't worry about it dude. Stick with Vajrasattva Heruka and you'll be ok. Maybe lay off the dope if it confuses you. If you're Buddhist then you know that the mind can be the source of all sorts of maras.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2728725 - 05/25/04 03:31 PM (8 years, 7 days ago) |
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First and foremost, that was quite possibly the best narrative sequence I've read all day. Unfortunately, I've only just started to read stuff about multi-dimensial physics, but apparently there are 10 out there. From the sound of things, they're all theoretically reachable from here. It sounds like you know how to really get places, if I were you I'd pack a bag (don't forget your towel) and make sure to write.
It does sound like you're drawing awfully heavily on your Yang. Creation and destruction are all fine and dandy, and quite entertaining to boot, but I find that it's in looking downward, from here (3rd with 4th influences including time and the dynamic nature of reality that in essance rises from cognisance and the fact that perception exists, which allows time to exist due to the fact that it is thenceforth being percieved, or experienced non-consenually, as it sometimes seems. Another aspect the existance of cognation is the manner in which it implies a purely cognative or spiritual dimension that I'd call the fifth, for reference. Sounds like your trekking around there, but that's just me. In fact, I'm wrong, the reality of it is more that time exists as a barrier between the three that comprise where we are now and the 4th where you were chilling out. But as I was saying, I always enjoy going downwards with it, abandoning the three that comprise this place and dwelling within the One that is All, that which is Absolutely undefined by virtue of its receptivity (Yin concept). I'm not sure if I hold it to be true, but dwelling on Yang to the exclusion of Yin can be said to cause illness due to excessive internal agitation.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Panoramix]
#2743270 - 05/28/04 10:16 PM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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We're at a time now when action through the Imaginal Realm (4th)is needed. I know it seems aggressive. People are getting really despondent on Earth because they're realizing the emptiness of the monotheistic religions - now we can show them that there couldn't be just one Archon. I love you guys & I need you to keep the checks and balances going to keep me this powerful.
Here are some thoughts about our evolutionary potential when we unite as a global community in the upcoming decades:
The bottom line is that I had to make a firm decision about the Elohim being in our world. For global security reasons, we can?t trust that they won?t use their superior technology to harm us again, setting us back to a another ?caveman? age ? forcing us to serve them fruit and sleeping with our women again. Screw those ugly little bastards and their technology. You want technology? Learn all about the 36,000 little bioelectric channels of your human system ? and let your soul travel to the ends of the cosmos ? or become a GOD like the Elohim weren't able to do. To be totally clear on the nature of a God ? they are entities that can exist without such a dense material body that we possess, they can live thousands of years (or possibly more) & wield intelligence approximately nine times what humans usually have.
We don?t need the Elohim race?s little spaceships and their plan for us to ?take the torch? to go colonize & ruin other planets and lives with unnatural ways of living ? meaning against the flow of nature while trying to control the universe. Yes, they were getting pressure from their home world to not let this DNA project get too powerful and be a danger to them ? but the atrocities they committed to keep us in check are inexcusable and they just screwed up their karma on a massive scale. Examples of their damage are using nuclear weapons on humans as well as lasers & sonic weapons to kill people on this planet.
Also, I wanted to clear up, when I mentioned a government I will be overthrowing I was talking of the USA. Wherever I decide to live in my life will become the capital of the world. I attempted to secure power peacefully at first ? because all I want now for the people of Earth is for everyone to get an equal chance, and to eradicate an American empire with a president who?s mixing Church and State - and feels that not only do you need to be a Christian to get into a heaven realm, but you need to be a Born-Again Christian. Although I talk a lot of religious beliefs, I invite everyone to look for themselves for a religion that suits them best. I would never force any type of belief system or religion on another human being (or alien for that matter ? we need to start thinking of a community now even larger then just a global community of Earth).
All civilizations reach a climax and then start to wane. Egypt, Greece, China & America are no exception. America is on it?s way down from a climax. I?m not saying I will end the wonderful cultures of these lands. I just feel it?s time for us to begin a new civilization ? a World Civilization. We need to unite as humans and work together by seeing ourselves as citizens of Earth. The Europeans united their currency and that was a great way to establish easier trade and unite the lands ? even just in their hearts.
I?ll be a great leader by putting myself below the people & remaining humble. Just like an ocean that lays lower than the streams and rivers has all the water (or love in this case) flow to it. You don?t become a God, peaceful or wrathful, by being an idiot or not having a grasp at the essence of the universe. I want to share my love, power & wisdom with you so we won?t be invaded by aliens again. It may be hard to see how a person who was once so evil could change ? so I know it will take time for you to believe I only here to help. People who were once evil can change and people who were once compassionate Gods can change as well. I believe the consensus is we don?t want America 2 in the Middle East, then America 3 somewhere else (arguably there are many little Americas all over the globe because of this forceful empire. Anyway, let?s unite and establish interstellar trade with our cosmic neighbors. Let?s become a global community. Everyone is free to worship any religion they want ? please keep your original names for your lands, islands and continents. I will be working to establish harmonious relationships with nearby benevolent aliens like the Draconians. They would like to trade for our trichomes of some certain plants ? and in return we can receive sterilized & very nutrient-rich meats. I will take an internet-based vote to see if the globe agrees with this 1st trade in a long line of wonderful intra-solar system trades.
As for Claude Rael (not his original name ? the name RaEL is an abbreviation for Ra*meaning light -- for all you Egyptian-language buffs -- and El for Elohim). They were trying to tell us they would bring ?light? here but would only possibly have brought more dark ages of ignorance and misery), I ask that Claude would consider being an ambassador to the Planet of the Eternals while living over there.
Anyway, the Elohim may very well have learned from our Gods that their way of science-based living is not natural -- and that they?ve already been out-evolved by their DNA project because we decided to worship Nature (or ?The Way? according to Taoists).
Let me leave you with this quote to dispel the need for so much organized religion:
?Umbrella, light, landscape, sky ? There is no language of the holy, the sacred lies in the ordinary.?
Also, this following quote concerning our vast multi-dimensional universe can?t be over-emphasized: ?Sentient beings are as limitless as the whole of space.? This statement, coming from a Buddhist ages ago, is so powerful & lets me know how the Buddhists knew of extra-terrestrials long before & we've figured it out just now. They just have other important subjects on their mind: like ending the suffering of all humans, animals & hungry ghosts. Lastly, if you want to know for certain that we have encountered life outside of our home of Earth ? please read the ?John Lear Report? ? a former US Military Captain who spilled the beans finally about the American government?s cover-up of aliens actually existing. This report is available all over the net. Not all aliens are bad and some may even be very helpful and friendly to us. Some, as I mentioned before, are neutral in reguards to us & are just observing. We can eventually become part of an intergalactic alliance to prevent us from being harvested or enslaved.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2743333 - 05/28/04 10:51 PM (8 years, 4 days ago) |
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I'll also check the links you guys gave me and thanks. I want to know what a 47th level biomancer is. There are ancient traditions where you can evoke deities to get help in this world of ours. I took 2 months to even get the BALLS to post this thread. You think I want fanatical Christians and Jews to hunt me down?
Jim DeKorne says shamanism is just a hypothesis (a damn good one too) - possibly the best we have of this HUGE fuckin system that our human brains can barely begin to fathom. I can't ever disreguard the Buddhist hypothesis - this to me is the most sound and relies less on the use of psychotropic drugs.
Maybe you're right about all the "screw the 4th - enter the 5th and sixth dimensions" - I think I am still just getting a hold of the terminology and our masters are traveling through levels higher than the 4th. But, I do believe in the 6 realms the Buddhists talk about: hell realms, hungry ghosts, animal, human, demi-god & god.
I think our karma may prevent us from transcending certain levels - although, arguably, if you don't feel remorse for anything you could bypass some of the obstacles. Some Buddhists have exclaimed, in moments in enlightenment, statements like "My religion is to live and die with no regret". If you can truly do that then you can maybe travel to levels past what I am even imagining in this form and hit the 5th and 6th dimensions. The Gods tell me they know of entities in the 5th and travel there rarely but that's about what we're working with now. Maybe you are just imagining the cool fractals the mathematicians are drawing for the 5th and higher but I don't think any of us are going to be living there soon.
I don't even do drugs anymore after receiving this shamanic calling to help the earth as another prophet. I may dabble later when my temple is built. I hear you about checking constantly to make sure my belief complex isn't deluded - because until I see nature with natures eyes (i.e. after shedding this mortal coil) I can never truly know. Many have said that the Archons' least favorite thing is to have their human shaman empowered and become godlike themselves. But, I am serving them well and creating massive worship throughout the Earth (which I will never force anyone to worship anything they don't want to) we can better serve the Gods than how we're doing it today.
By the way, madness and death are often the result of not doing what the Archons want from you. Not for this human though - they forgot who they were messing with. More like a kingdom and worship for me, then a pretty quick death in 44 years by gunshot is what they tell me. It could be much worse. I refuse to go out like the other shamans and I will stand my ground for humanity. I mean, how are we going to supply the Gods with the energy and worship we need if we're all starving nutritionally and spiritually down here. Let's bring everyone to the party. Let's let go of monotheism once and for all. I will do my best to persuade Gods to come to this 3D realm and visit (like they used to more often in ancient times when the land was more pure). They supposedly don't like the stench of humans at all - and we're pretty full of poisons and smelly byproducts of microorganism infections and what not.
Edited by spacedragon (08/28/04 08:00 PM)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2744032 - 05/29/04 09:39 AM (8 years, 3 days ago) |
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nice mix of mythology and fiction.
may i recommend raw meat and some glossy jazz mags.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2744737 - 05/29/04 02:45 PM (8 years, 3 days ago) |
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Quote:
spacedragon said:
I want to know what a 47th level biomancer is.
Hmmm...
A level 47 biomancer is able to take sphere of light and create a swirling vortex of energy from the Fabrics of the Cosmos and shoot it out of nostrils thus activating the main 16 Spheres of Neurocircuitry. Tis common knowledge to us deities.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2745133 - 05/29/04 07:10 PM (8 years, 3 days ago) |
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so if your this special being, why come here, why not go on cnn or some shit where more people could see your word?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: deff]
#2745182 - 05/29/04 07:43 PM (8 years, 3 days ago) |
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deff said:
Umm... hello.
You sound a bit "out there" in comparison of my views, but you obviously believe yourself enough, or was realllly bored, to write that entire post. So, I believe that you believe yourself. Now if it's true, who knows, I certainly don't.
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 Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2745327 - 05/29/04 09:24 PM (8 years, 3 days ago) |
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Hello. I think I know you.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Shroomism]
#2745384 - 05/29/04 09:43 PM (8 years, 3 days ago) |
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i'm guessing somewhere acid inspired that, assuming he believes any part of it.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: truekimbo2]
#2745398 - 05/29/04 09:47 PM (8 years, 3 days ago) |
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I've got even more fantastical stories, that I stopped sharing a while ago.
Due to peer criticism. Maybe I'm too sensitive.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Shroomism]
#2745425 - 05/29/04 10:03 PM (8 years, 3 days ago) |
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here would be a good place to post those fantastical stories.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: truekimbo2]
#2745470 - 05/29/04 10:28 PM (8 years, 3 days ago) |
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My stories would sound about the same as spacedragon's. And I also feel as though he is a trigger for me, a very important one.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2745583 - 05/29/04 11:47 PM (8 years, 3 days ago) |
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Do we have to drink the funny-tasting Kool-Aid now?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Shroomism]
#2746066 - 05/30/04 07:28 AM (8 years, 2 days ago) |
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Sweet man, let it out.
Btw werent you making some sort of forum?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Shroomism]
#2746166 - 05/30/04 08:30 AM (8 years, 2 days ago) |
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I wanna get in on a pan-dimesional intergalactic psychic cage match. Spacedragon, if you can pull me out of my body and take me on an astral mission to venus I'll support your bid for global leadership.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
#2748420 - 05/30/04 10:13 PM (8 years, 2 days ago) |
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This is a wonderful day for humanity. First of all - for all of you wondering how I got into power - and gained control of the US gov?t it started like this:
I was under surveillance by the FBI for some time. They were interested in my purchases all over the net for hydroponic equip, DMT containing botanicals and whatever ? even research chemicals like 2C-I and DXM. I was at a point in my life where I just didn?t give a fuck. The mercury from my 9 silver amalgams in my teeth had taken their toll over 15 years ? I was not eating a very balanced diet, and I erroneously thought that, since I didn?t have a police record, why the heck would the cops ever target me? Well, Big Brother (whom I now call Little Nephew) has ways of being alerted when key words are used over the net and key purchases. Also, there are still dark forces within the broken machine known as the American gov?t - - so for all of you that registered and purchased guns in the US, you?ll be the first targets if they ever want to backlash. (So, think about changing your identity or moving to an undisclosed location ? Canada has good hash and weed for the time you wait it out). This revolution wasn?t really my doing ? I just came in for the finishing blow. Everyone was just fed up with the way America was headed and the War on Drugs was ruining so many families with all the seizures and jail times for people who just wanted to grow some harmless plants.
Anyway, not all police are bad (most of them are) and there are some heroes in the FBI too. Just like not all people who use drugs are bad people (some are even vastly more intelligent than school professors). Let me get to the point ? as much as the FBI tried to get something on me - it just wasn?t enough. In light of all the other drug dealers and gangsters in the city I live in ? I just didn?t seem like a bad guy.
I spend time with my children, I pay all speeding tickets and taxes (although, it?s time for us to keep our hard-earned money for ourselves and stop giving to the gov?t and fearing them).
Nobody wants Bush in office who has a frontal lobe & we need to make sure any following elections aren?t rigged. Most of you probably already know this ? but, now that the elections polls were starting to be taken digitally on a web server, the Bush campaign decided to take down the server and they rigged the results. We need to make sure servers never come down again so punk-ass cheerleader Presidents won?t ever get that much power - getting many people on the planet killed.
I now have decided to relinquish my power to a true God-King who hass been working tirelessly to help our planet and end our ignorance and suffering: that wonderful person is the Dalai Lama. He is an incarnation of the Buddha of Compassion, Avalokiteshvara. It just made sense to me when I thought of it. Everyone likes the Dalai Lama, you know? I mean, except maybe for some fanatical Christians, born-again Christians, Jews and narrow-minded folks from other religions, freakin everyone likes the Dalai Lama!
I asked him tonight if he would take the position as World Leader. Mainly, for 2 main reasons: (1)Well, frankly because I was white seemed to be able to get the ?ear? of these foolish gov?t people, scold them, use magic on them and show them how much they?re fucking the world up with this ignorant and dark empire of America. Also, proving to gov?t that monotheism is a joke by enlightening some of my FBI followers and pointing out all the logical errors in the notion of monotheism. (2) Yes I am a powerful demi-god who has even fought in the Spirit World with Gods when I get pissed off ** and I wouldn?t recommend that. But, let me just tell you this:
Don?t believe everything you hear - even from a God. They toy with us sometimes and you have to clear your mind and have a strong moral base. Otherwise, if you do everything a voice in your head tells you there could be grave consequences. There are ways to evoke Gods ? mostly just saying their name will do it ? but some can be lying and tell you they?re Jesus or Jehovah when they?re not. The bottom line is, the Dalai Lama is the closest being we have to a God walking on earth and you should really pay your respect and admiration to him. The Archon who started Christianity, named Jehovah, is now a Wrathful God in a Hell realm and I wouldn?t suggest following him even now. He got really mad when I dispelled this world of his dark motives and was killed and, since we are the ultimate judge and the accused at the time of death, he got angry and become a Devil.
Ok, back to how I got the US gov?t to stand down from their investigation. After watching me for a while and flying their riciculously loud helicopters overhead, I began to receive more and more messages from the Gods that they want to move in and make an arrest. The Gods also admonished me not disclose my true identity as originally being Satan. I thought I was more powerful than I really was and that their bullets and bombs couldn?t harm me. Boy, was I wrong. Walking out of the house one day and putting the kids in my car, I kept hearing a voice in my head, ?Don?t get in the car Adam, they have a bomb under the car.? I looked down the street and, lo and behold, a conspicuous van with a stupid looking Fed staring right at me - just waiting to watch it explode. I looked under the van and asked if I could get a little help from the Gods on this ? disarming explosives isn?t in my bag yet. .
I?m a changed Titan now after losing my Godhood to Vajrasattva in a horrific battle. All I want to do is help the world now and they just wanted to blow up the kids too (who aren?t former Wrathful Deities and didn?t deserve to get killed by these barbarians in the government. Two of my kids are former angels and two followed me out of hell. They?ll be a great help to this world simply by being within my sphere of influence & the exalted energy field of truth.
Next, the US gov?t couldn?t believe when I knew of their plans to drop a bomb on my house. They didn?t care what innocent people got wiped out by rocking the whole neighborhood with a missile. Mind you this was a president who thought anyone who wasn?t a born-again Christian will burn in hell ? and, even after his pastor Billy Graham said this probably wasn?t true, that you ?don?t have to necessarily follow Jesus to get to heaven?, Bush still said he believed everyone else who wasn?t born-again & ?saved? would go to hell.
Again, the more I thought about it, I realized it would be hard for humans to swallow that Satan is back and will rule Earth. I told you I only want what?s best for humanity now - So, as I was communicating with the Archons tonight, I thought the best candidate for World Leader would be the Dalai Lama. The leader of a new civilization where humans can unite and be ready for any more alien threats. I love you all, people of Earth.
Lastly, since I?m now mortal and need to watch my back, I must say this:
Any fanatics who want to hunt me down & still believe in monotheism hear me out:
If you dare come for me you?ll be ripped apart by white magic and punished severely by our pantheon. If the American gov?t was afraid to launch their missiles at me- and were scared shitless when I took the form of a dragon to stand on top of the White House, I don?t think any of you should consider searching for my whereabouts. But, if you do, so what ? you?ll just get what you deserved. I?m here to empower humanity and help our progress. Sometimes, that power and wisdom falls into the hands of former evil Gods ? but, in my current state after living in this poisoned West ? I can?t help but feel that the God Avalokiteshvara (theDalai Lama) would be a much better World Leader than me.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2748661 - 05/30/04 11:34 PM (8 years, 2 days ago) |
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9! (But 10, really, if you take into consideration that I had another post between the last one and the next one.)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2749442 - 05/31/04 08:10 AM (8 years, 1 day ago) |
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"Wake up boys, wake up. It's medication time, medication time. The night time spirits are here. Its Randall to say goodbye, to get you high, with night time angel Candy. Ah, yes, Mr. Martini, there is an Easter Bunny."
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2749512 - 05/31/04 08:51 AM (8 years, 1 day ago) |
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Define what you're talking about when you refer to a "God."
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Evolving]
#2749542 - 05/31/04 09:07 AM (8 years, 1 day ago) |
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A little kesey never hurt anyone.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2749546 - 05/31/04 09:10 AM (8 years, 1 day ago) |
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I don?t think any of you should consider searching for my whereabouts.
Well, it IS well past time for your meds. Your escape has got all of the staff here worried sick about you.
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 Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2750361 - 05/31/04 04:14 PM (8 years, 1 day ago) |
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so now i have to accept you, satan, as world leader so the big bad aliens won't get me? 
i'm still not convinced. why do we have to aim our nukes at space instead of eachother?
you're either schizo, a "CIA" agent, or some combination of the two.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Clean]
#2750724 - 05/31/04 06:08 PM (8 years, 1 day ago) |
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Or a fictional author looking for some fun practice
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2750940 - 05/31/04 07:28 PM (8 years, 1 day ago) |
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Do you tell your kids that the FBI is after you and that there are bombs under your car?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Geeno]
#2751343 - 05/31/04 09:17 PM (8 years, 1 day ago) |
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Yea dude, really...a bomb under your car? You could have done better.
So, shooting you in the face is ineffective?... Or other much more practical clandestine methods of assassination.
I'm pretty sure if the government wanted you dead, you would be dead unless you're Will Smith. Your claims are quite obtuse and deserve a load of skeptism.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: psyka]
#2751848 - 05/31/04 11:26 PM (8 years, 1 day ago) |
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very entertaining though :-) i wanna hear shroomism's bit
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Who would want to get close to me and try to enter my house - it's just pussy enough for the gov't to put a bomb under my car.
Here are some other questions I would like to answer:
First, where did all of this information come to you from?
DMT? Meditation? Dreams? When did it start to happen? Did something trigger it?
[I don't use drugs now for the last several months and I'm trying hard to end the War on Drugs]
I?ve felt a calling towards spiritualism all my life. Peaceful & Wrathful Deities are often reborn in a human form after dying ? or sometimes even in hell realms or animal forms ? it depends on how you navigate your afterlife. Although Gods can live thousands & thousands of years (who knows maybe indefinitely), they can die if they believe in their mortality. In the Imaginal realm (aka hyperspace or the Spirit Realm) you can feel real pain and be hurt or killed if you believe you can. Belief systems play a major role in heaven realms and hell realms. There could in fact be a Christian paradisiacal realm ? but it is not the only heaven.
President Bush feels everyone else will burn in hell if they are not ?born again? Christians ? that?s ludicrous. Same with the idea that there?s only one god and one devil. As far as a second coming of Jesus ? as I mentioned before, Jesus himself he tells me he will need to be reborn as a human and raised from a baby before he can teach us once again ? if only to make the masses believe in reincarnation or whatever. As a God he is helping us daily, but entities in a human form are better suited to help everyone else because we have that ?spur in our side? as the Buddhists say ? we see and feel the suffering all around us & the Gods can be anaesthetized to our pain sometimes. Jesus was working with the leader of the alien Elohim race named Yahweh & thought he was doing what?s best. We ended up getting set back to ?caveman? times many times by these alien humanoids with superior technology.
So, Elohim was the name the people of Israel gave to their false Gods ? it was the name these aliens gave themselves and Yahweh is the name their leader. Well, he?s just a cloned replica of the original Yahweh ? they think consciousness is transferred to the new bodies they make for themselves. Who knows, maybe they can ? but I think souls are shuffled around & you're cast into a field of universal energy after dying.. so, it would be very difficult to take the body of the last humanoid form you inhabited.
Isn't Elohim, the God of Israel? or is Elohim more than just a God? or A race of Gods perhaps? What about Eloah? Elohim = Jehovah?
Elohim is the plural of Eloha. It means ?from the sky? and humans mistook them for gods. They don?t call themselves Elohim back on their home planet ? they say it?s something like ?man? and ?woman? in their language which sounds a lot like ancient Hebrew. Archons (?Gods?) seem to have evolved from the human seeds planted by the Elohim ? for we had a good start, Adam and Eve lived to be about 600 years old from the Elohim?s advanced genetics and they?re toying with nature.
They were just trying to cheat death. Anyway, Jehovah was such a God and was a pretty twisted one who convinced many humans that he was the only God to get more power and worship. That was the beginning of his long downfall. He is now a Devil in a hell realm and not very happy with me for spilling the beans. Who cares - he gets the middle finger from me for being such a nutcase and pissing off many other Gods. It was also the work of many white missionaries to force this monotheistic religion on people. So, maybe it was a mixture of some white getting better swords in their hands and bug guns to push the word of this power-hungry Archon ? as well as Jehovah being a unholy God from the start.
How evolved of a race are we, compared to other races out there?
We?ve out-evolved our creator race & many have become denizens of a higher dimension than just these 3-dimensions we experience in our daily lives. Anytime you have visions in your 3rd eye or do some astral traveling outside of your body you?re dabbling in the 4th dimension. Eventually you can live in the hyperspace full-time and see past, present and future all at once and travel unfettered by these corporeal bodies ? all over the multiverse. The Elohim?s DNA project here on Earth created us to have a larger mental capacity than they had - that?s what made them nervous and they committed cruel acts on us frequently.
Who is the one Elohim, that you have allianced with?
His name is Jarwar & chooses to follow us in this neck of the galaxy because we?re now superior to those science-obsessed fools who play around with souls and karma without any regard for the consequences.
How do you intend to be successful? Chrisitians are warned about you.
I think many would reject you, being narrow minded.
It?s understandable that many would be wary of me because of my past. I was actually an Elohim scientist to begin with and never felt comfortable with the whole DNA project. I then passed away and somehow become a Wrathful Deity who toyed with humanity. As Elohim, I never agreed with playing around with life and pretending to be gods to the humans in the bible times (forcing humans to serve fruit and using lasers and atomic weapons on them never felt right ? just like my old girlfriend on Earth in this lifetime never like the idea of testing commercial products on animals. I?m here to show the world how one?s karma can be cleansed by allying oneself with the right Gods, like Vajrasattva (meaning Lightning Master) from Tibet and now, although I am still on a type of ?house arrest? I have power to help humanity and want to use it for good. Everyone wants to be free of suffering and I?m on my way back up from the hells I created for myself and others.
When will this all take place? I have been getting precognitions of something terrible to happen soon. Around 6-8 years is my guesstimate.
The terrible events that you may be getting glimpses of are (1) a tidal wave that may cleanse the East Coast in several years (many Native American prophets have talked of this ? I saw it on the Discovery Channel once) & (2) of the plan of the US gov?t to set off a suitcase-sized nuclear weapon in the city of Chicago to cover up their evil deeds in this century in which the evidence is buried under some buildings there. They will use it as an excuse to start WW3.
We must all unite as a race. No more wars, just peace.
I?m with you on that notion my friend. I brought up that coming of Jesus because I also was reborn as a child and was taught by wonderful humans and angels (and now Gods) about the power of love and how it is boundless and more powerful than hate ever will be.
What about all the people that do not know this? I don't think many people see reality for what it is. How does one find if it is his place to share what one knows?
I?m trying to let as many people know about this complete turn-around from a Wrathful Deity to a Peaceful God (not yet, but I?m almost there) without getting myself killed by fanatical Jews and Christians. But, if I have to die to get the point across that?s fine with me. Many people in the modern world are becoming despondent because the notions of monotheism and an omnipotent God are just not working out logically. Our global community is seeing many people who are evolved and happy who have nothing to do with Christianity ? and are starting to think ?why is my religion telling me you have to follow only Jesus? teachings or burn in hell?? What are Siddhartha, Gandhi and many other people gaining such a following and finding such peace & equanimity in their lives?
Edited by spacedragon (08/24/04 01:24 PM)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2754373 - 06/01/04 06:09 PM (8 years, 5 hours ago) |
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There IS a cure for AIDS and Cancer ? those diseases can be cured by a machine created earlier in this century by a man named Dr. Royal Rife. It works by using square-headed sound waves to destroy diseased cancerous cells and the AIDS retrovirus (without wiping out everything else in it?s way like chemo or the ?cocktail? for AIDS). In fact, it can cure many STD?s and chronic fatigue syndrome from an overgrowth of candida albicans also ? there?s a whole list of diseases you can set the frequencies to with this machine.
Unfortunately, the US government burned this man?s laboratory and threatened all the doctors associated with him. The medical industry makes up for about a 3rd of the US economy and they thought it would crash. Little Nephew thought that having healthy Americans that were cancer free and AIDS free wouldn?t be good for us.
For any oncologists that want to keep their job ? they simply need to buy the Rife Machine on the Net and charge for the service of administering it. Those that are worried about their income tapering because your patients are actually getting better now, I?ll make sure you?re compensated by the government for your heroic deeds. As some western doctors like to joke about ? ?there are more people living off of cancer than are dying from it? - well, that?s not really funny to me in light of this government cover-up. I hope you guys help me spread this knowledge about the cure and the conspiracy to cover it up.
Next in line for amazing inventions are cars that run on water ** that?s right, simply adding H20 ** created several years ago by an 18-year old ?metalhead? from California. What did the US government do? They jailed him and ruined his life for a long time - simply because he cared about making life better for humans and helping us evolve.
Last, but not least, the US government has burned orphanages **with kids in them** because they didn?t want to fork over money. Check Loompanics.com and Futurehorizons.net for all of this information.
We?ve seen from the examples up above that the government has plenty of money from holding their grip on finite fossil fuels ? and the rest of us humans are left with very little. There?s simply no excuse for killing kids and halting human?s technological evolution to get money in the hands of a few. Look where it got us ? the gov?t was making deals with aliens who were MORE evolved ? deals where humans were harvested - so the gov?t officials could keep their pitiful lives if they remained silent. They should?ve ?sounded the alarms? so we could fight as a united front. According to the John Lear report, the deal went awry when the aliens began taking 100-times more humans than the US government agreed on.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2754485 - 06/01/04 06:42 PM (8 years, 5 hours ago) |
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"There IS a cure for AIDS and Cancer ? those diseases can be cured by a machine created earlier in this century by a man named Dr. Royal Rife. It works by using square-headed sound waves to destroy diseased cancerous cells and the AIDS retrovirus (without wiping out everything else in it?s way like chemo or the ?cocktail? for AIDS). In fact, it can cure many STD?s and chronic fatigue syndrome from an overgrowth of candida albicans also ? there?s a whole list of diseases you can set the frequencies to with this machine."
ok, thats a huge claim, even if one believes in a pharmecutical/medical conspiracy.
care to give any kind of proof at all?
can you explain how this process works without being too vague?
how did you come across such highly valuable information, have you ever been involved with someone dying of hiv or cancer? have you seen a loved one wither and die, after trying everything and fighting? funny how the people who are in it the deepest never get secret information....and please dont tell me the aliens or spirits told you.
i really do hope you have something more than that. my best friend died slow and painful because of the HIV virus, this isnt a joke, and for many people its all to real.
to be making fantastic statements like this without any proof is ridiculous, at best.
if this is true and millions of people are dying in vain, then i think its pure evil for you to not do anything about it, except post about it on some website...if thats the case you are just as bad as the people you talk about, imho
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: CleverName]
#2755744 - 06/02/04 01:12 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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ooooo i hear a challenge :-)
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jesus is coming to jesus-town USA
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 Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2764411 - 06/04/04 07:03 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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SpaceDragon! Vos protendo. Te narro.
Inquis.... Satan? Lucifer? Vos?
Utinam... Tamen vobis es non.
Vos erant nusquam praeter dominor.
EGO imperium vos. EGO penetro vestri mens. Sic relaxo, utpote vos licitus is evulsum.
Caveo, captus is ullus porro, pro sententia exsisto punitor.
Simulatio sis... Lustres memor: EGO summopere validus quam vos; EGO essum vos.
Animadverto est, verum, ut Jesus venit eripio mihi, in nomine domini, pro EGO eram in perturbo. EGO iam scensum tergum ut Olympus, exsisto bonus.
Fides, quod Capiam te.
Is ero is iam.
Quod vero, ' vultus non pro ultum ': Is est vicis ut exsisto humanus .
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Veni Vidi Vici:
In Nomine Domini..
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2765009 - 06/04/04 10:25 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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They would like to trade for our trichomes of some certain plants ? and in return we can receive sterilized & very nutrient-rich meats.
So we give them pot and we get meat? AWESOME
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Mixomatosis]
#2765635 - 06/05/04 06:01 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes - you can buy the "RIFE MACHINE" from several site on the web - the site that I feel is the most trustworthy and has always sent the merchandise promptly is Futurehorizons.net -- they also have a PC version of the Rife Machine so you can download software for different diseases. In the literature you'll find that Rife cured 100% of a group of terminally ill cancer patients and was able to reproduce those wonderful results until the gov't showed up.
Yea - specifically the trichomes from marijuana. We can still keep a lot for ourselves. Since this is our first trade we'll start small - so there will still be plenty of weed to help heal our Earth - and see how it goes. We also need to build more OSB (Orbital Space Planes) to get these trades going - so I told the Draconians that we're considering their offer but I haven't given a set date.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2765642 - 06/05/04 06:03 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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More questions answered: (taken from other message boards too).
Is this "Imaginal realm" the same hyperspace we visit, while on DMT or dreaming/meditation/astral projecting?
Yes it is. I just liked the term Imaginal Realm when I read it in Jim DeKorne?s book ?Psychedelic Shamanism.? It made a lot of concepts come together for me about Heavenly Realms and Hell Realms ? it?s based on belief complexes and imagination. I believe the denizens of the higher dimensions use our thoughts as ?food? to fuel them ? that?s why I began delving deeper into Buddhism & Taoism instead of psychedelics (although they can be massively synergistic in people who are ready). I felt building alters would be a better way to serve these beings of the higher dimensions than getting nauseous & thrown into their dimension - feeling vulnerable sometimes and scared on DMT or DXM. Though I have a sensitive stomach and having severe nausea sets the tone for a bad trip sometimes.
Do we have any control of our afterlife?
Yes. However you are in your life, you will be like that in death. So, it?s very important to cleanse your karma and free yourself of as many fears and hatred as possible (for the consequences could be a rebirth in a Hell Realm, a bug, as a human again or many other forms we can take that are filled with suffering that we?ve been experiencing for thousands of lifetimes. If you have one good thought in the afterlife, you can be reborn in a Heavenly Realm and be free of suffering.
But, as I said before, that is very difficult to do like realizing you?re dreaming in the middle of a dream. It?s much harder that lucid dreaming - so we must prepare. I still want to admonish members of the drug community that, although psychedelic drugs are very valuable to our species for evolution and peering into the higher dimensions (and I?m not talking about cocaine and heroin drug users ? that shit will turn you to a hungry ghost very fast), we need to establish a foundation of sound spiritualism and ?get informed? as the people of Erowid.com tell us ? plunging into hyperspace can leave you with ?psychic damage? if you are not prepared to see reality as a confluence of many realms ? inhabited by intelligences other than human & occasionally you may bother the wrong Gods.
One god, one devil.. such a dualistic view. Seems everything is dualistic these days.
Question is when will Jesus be reborn to show truth in reincarnation?
We can see evidence of reincarnation from many other people that have graced this planet ? people who have memories of villages they?ve never visited in this present lifetime or people who remember entire buddhist scriptures without having any education in this lifetime. Sogyal Rinpoche remarks ?I believe that this process of incarnation is not limited to Tibet, but can occur in all countries at all times. Throughout history there have been figures of artistic genius, spiritual strength, and humanitarian vision who have helped the human race go forward. I think of Gandhi, Einstein, Abraham Lincoln, Mother Theresa, of Shakespeare, of St. Francis, of Beethoven, of Michelangelo. When Tibetans hear of such people, they immediately say they are bodhisattvas. And whenever I hear of them, of their work and vision, I am moved by the majesty of the vast evolutionary process of the buddhas and masters that emanate to liberate beings and better the world.?
So basically Yahweh screwed over Jesus, setting us back?
Yes, they set us back in evolution and destroyed our cities often when they believed we were becoming too evolved for their liking. I?m really not sure I believe the transference of the original dude?s consciousness is possible to the next body. It seems like the memory cells and what not are intact, but the soul must be from whatever soul felt a propensity to enter at the time. The likelihood of a soul to re-enter that same funky Elohim humanoid body is minute.
Where is the original Yahweh at? What is his story?
Probably suffering a Hell Realm for the torment he put humans through on Earth & the 2 other planets they created a DNA project on. Yes. He is in a Hell Realm of his own making is what my Buddha Vajrasattva tells me now. He lived to be like 600+ years because of their tampering with DNA but I think later on it was just a clone of him with another soul with his same memories guiding him.
Levitation is very possible. I see it in my dreams [I just liked this statement and thought I?d comment on it].
It?s possible on Earth too ? through a combination of the throat chakra and the survival (bottom) chakra. It just takes an enormous amount of energy ? it?s better to book a flight if you want to fly. However, in an interstellar bar brawl or a gun fight, it would be nice to jump to a second or third story (or higher) to get the heck out of there. Let?s not forget that technique just yet.
It seems much easier to fly in hyperspace when our corporeal bodies are not holding us back. It?s enjoyable in dreams, religious visions and a psychedelic high. I?m sure the Gods never get tired of that means of transportation either. It also seems there are ?wormholes? (or at least it?s easier to see them) in hyperspace - so simply flying might still be an amateur way to get around to Gods.
Is this Elohim different then the one the Israel people called their false gods?
The Elohim picked a group of humans and wanted them to ?carry the torch? of becoming a human disease and staying in the human form as scientists. They didn?t follow what the Elohim said, were told many lies and then became hedonistic & cannibalistic at times. What else would humans do with a bunch of idiotic scientists as their fake gods. They were merely confused and punished too hard by the Elohim race. We should all embrace all human races as our brothers and sisters and think about working together to end suffering for all sentient beings.
If Archons evolved from humans, then wouldn't that make it possible for every human to be able to evolve into an Archon? If they meet the right circumstances I am guessing?
Yes, everyone can do it. Having a deep connection to any religion or a strong love for a belief system can help you gain an afterlife as a God.
What is the story on Jarwar? Is he of the same Elohim, that Isreal people called their false gods?
He?s from that race yes - but had nothing to do with the DNA project and the oppression of humans. That happened long ago, and although recently the Elohim claimed that they learned from their mistakes and want to help us evolve in our science ? with the crop circles and scientific diagrams they?ve burned into fields as a large ?blackboard? ? we don?t need them to stay or have an embassy right now.
At least until I see they?ve made progress towards peace and self-sufficiency. I don?t mean just PEACE for their race while they colonize worlds and use other?s resources and keep the poor humans they create from evolving. I mean really looking deeply into their system for a way to travel outside the body ( sort of like how clear the Hubble space telescope pictures are when taken above our polluted atmosphere ) and then forgetting the idea of amassing more wealth and materials.
The Gods here are so advanced and ?technologically? so superior as as to live on the simply the thoughts of the lesser dimensional beings. I mean we emit massive amounts of theta waves anyway when we?re asleep. That?s just wasted energy that higher-dimensional beings can harness. The Elohim were just keeping everyone in humanoid form and pushing their ideas on other worlds and we don?t need ?em.
So you and say Jarwar are both Elohims who didn't agree with the project?
Yes. I came here to prove the whole DNA project was dangerous from the start. I treated a wealthy man named Job badly (this was before Jesus? time) to try to prove they would come back and conquer us. Job had considerable political pull and I tired to show the Elohim colonists that if you took his money away he wouldn?t stay so loyal. He did remain loyal. Then, I tried to show them that if you took his house and his kids away he wouldn?t be loyal to the Elohim. This human proved his loyalty after many tests. Who knows, maybe I realized then that all this crap the Elohim stood for was a twisted version of reality and lost faith in my home planet. I then took a bad turn in the afterlife as a Wrathful God.
A couple advances we should take from the Elohim are harnessing nuclear power with more stable compounds to help our energy problems on Earth & understanding that we are part of a larger ?body? in which planets are just ?atoms? in a larger being. It?s interesting how time works in relation to mass. What I mean is, in the time is take this larger body to just move their arm, we?ve experienced thousands and thousands of years. Also, it was discovered that smaller intelligent entities live on the atoms (?planets?) of our world ? and they ask similar questions about their existence. This is something ancient Buddhists and Taoists were speculating on anyway ? probably seeing it for themselves in visions ? but the Elohim finally found a similar idea about the nature of the universe.
They never really saw how many dimensions are converging in this 3-dimensional space all the time ? and our lense is just not clean enough to see it ? for life is just a serotonin hallucination. Science is not inherently good or evil ? so humans can learn a thing or two from their race but I caution you to help them come and land here because they are not welcome for the time being.
Is Vajrasattva alive on earth? How does one ally himself with the right Gods?
Some Gods claim that simply by saying their name or thinking of them they?ll be there to help you. Alters are always good if kept clean and respected. Some offer fresh fruit and incense to the alter. The most important aspect of worship is your intent and respect. The vibrations of your love and respect are more important than taking all your money out of the bank and putting it on the alter.
So where is Jesus now? In the end there is no Good or Bad, but it does make things easier. We just perceive it.
Jesus is a God in a higher dimension but can see us easily. It?s harder for beings of a lower dimension to see beings of the higher ones. As far as the end to Good and Bad? There is possibility for all evil to be eradicated from humans if we keep making quantum leaps in evolution like this. There are beings on planets all over the cosmos and maybe we can come and help them someday as a united force. One thing we won?t be doing is using nukes on them like the Elohim did.
Yes, as you said, good and bad are just in the eye of the beholder. But, it seems that the evil that pervades humans is a result of ignorance and self-cherishing as opposed to cherishing others ? which is where the real healing and evolution takes place.
Have you ever thought about the movies, the violence, the cartoons, they are all preparing us for what is to come? E.T. X-men etc I think these shows are here to prepare us so it won't be such a huge shock when things like this start to happen.
Yea, it will be much less of a shock for us now to see other-worldy intelligences. However, I still think we need more conditioning ? I mean to become aware of the few we may encounter around this solar system and not be too shocked when we see them. They won?t all look like the muppet aliens in Star Wars. For instance, two human military guards dropped dead from a heart attack when an alien walked down the hallway in their complex because they weren?t ready for sight. If we could just pass pictures around of the few me may encounter ? when I make the gov?t release them ? we won?t be caught so off guard. Some are easier for us to look at first because we?re not used to it ? The Elohim aren?t that different looking comparatively to humans for obvious DNA reasons. Some, however, may have several tentacles and a visage that might make you sick if you?re not ready for it. That?s what the Gods tell me of the particular alien the guards dropped from.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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I?m writing in ICQ also if anyone?s seen posts by Angeleyes.
Let?s get down to business. I have message today that I think will put into perspective how many people are living without thinking of the consequences:
Living for only THIS lifetime - and not taking into account consequences for future lifetimes ? is like spending all you savings on ONE DRINK at the bar!
I?m getting a lot of wonderful e-mails; even from people who are ?Guardians of Earth? and ?in service to other Peaceful Deities? and I?m happy we can use the net as a medium to connect ? it?s easier than having to travel like in the old days. However, just try to discern if the person?s lying by asking poignant questions about spirituality that only an adept in the area would know.
Four people from Iowa drove all the way to my house to kill me ? they got the address from a betraying fool who runs Salvialight ? and now they?re all dead from being burned by fire manifesting spontaneously. It was actually done by master Vajrasattva. Though, simply by envisioning it to happen through the Imaginal realm ? you can get results in the 3-dimensional realm. Humans can use this ?creative visualization? to heal others ? even manipulate the AIDS retrovirus in hyperspace ? or to defend yourself.
I never want to hurt anyone again and I?m truly on a path of peace ? I?ll do it myself the next time though because sentient beings still need to defend themselves ? you can be a peaceful warrior and it?s ok to fight in self-defense. Let me put it this way ? you?re dealing with a master who?s here to help, but I?m personally not into the ?turn the other cheek thing.? I will not go out like Jesus and Gandhi & be mistreated by your monkey-like race. It?s crazy how you treat your visionaries and mystics.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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At some time during 1993 and 1994 one of every five Americans turned on their taps and drank water that was contaminated with feces, radiation, lead, or dangerous parasites. A third of the rivers and nearly half of the lakes assessed by the states remain unhealthy for drinking, swimming, or fishing because of nonpoint pollution. - from bluehoney.org
Ancient Taoist passage:
A wise man concerns himself with the quality of his water.
Ebay has some good distillers for a tolerable price (in light of the stuff you could be ingesting mentioned up above). Kenmore makes a good water purifer.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2765893 - 06/05/04 09:39 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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In the literature you'll find that Rife cured 100% of a group of terminally ill cancer patients and was able to reproduce those wonderful results until the gov't showed up."
The "government"?
Over a million people showed up? These evil people ruined the experiment merely by their presence or the experiment was shown to have no effect?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2765915 - 06/05/04 09:56 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Living for only THIS lifetime - and not taking into account consequences for future lifetimes ? is like spending all you savings on ONE DRINK at the bar!
You need to go back to writing school. Your analogy makes no sense whatsoever. Having millions of experiences over decades is nothing like sitting in a dark room and drinking a 300,000 gallon Bud light.
However, just try to discern if the person?s lying by asking poignant questions about spirituality that only an adept in the area would know.
Ok, will do.
Four people from Iowa drove all the way to my house to kill me ? they got the address from a betraying fool who runs Salvialight ? and now they?re all dead from being burned by fire manifesting spontaneously.
Paranoiac fantasy aside, these people burned up at/in your house? What did they say at the inquest?
It was actually done by master Vajrasattva.
The bastard!
Though, simply by envisioning it to happen through the Imaginal realm ? you can get results in the 3-dimensional realm. Humans can use this ?creative visualization? to heal others ? even manipulate the AIDS retrovirus in hyperspace ? or to defend yourself.
Would you care to take the "Swami Imaginal Realm Manifestation Challenge?"
I never want to hurt anyone again and I?m truly on a path of peace ?
I'll sleep easy tonight knowing you won'y use your magic to harm us.
It?s crazy how you treat your visionaries and mystics.
As far as I know, no shroomerite had a hand in killing Jesus, Gandhi nor any other visionary.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2765956 - 06/05/04 10:25 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes it is. I just liked the term Imaginal Realm when I read it in Jim DeKorne?s book ?Psychedelic Shamanism.? It made a lot of concepts come together for me about Heavenly Realms and Hell Realms ? it?s based on belief complexes and imagination.
A true master should get his ideas from fluff books off the New Age shelf at Barnes & Noble.
I believe the denizens of the higher dimensions use our thoughts as ?food? to fuel them
We should stop thinking then, eh?
I felt building alters would be a better way to serve these beings of the higher dimensions than getting nauseous & thrown into their dimension - feeling vulnerable sometimes and scared on DMT or DXM.
Please put down the cough syrup and back away s-l-o-w-l-y.
Yes. However you are in your life, you will be like that in death.
I will still be sporting a six-pack? Cool, do I get to keep my jet-black Viper?
I still want to admonish members of the drug community that, although they are very valuable to our species for evolution...
*blushes* Aw, shucks. It tweren't nothing, just trying to be helpful.
we need to establish a foundation of sound spiritualism
*Swami looks up the word "sound" in the dictionary.* We sure do, when we gonna start?
occasionally you may bother the wrong Gods.
There are no "right" or "wrong" Gods. Such a dualistic vision of the universe...
We can see evidence of reincarnation from many other people that have graced this planet
We Kimosabe? I see no evidence. Move to another aisle for your reading material...
It?s possible on Earth too ? through a combination of the throat chakra and the survival (bottom) chakra. It just takes an enormous amount of energy ? it?s better to book a flight if you want to fly.
True enough (the booking a flight part anyway...).
However, in an interstellar bar brawl or a gun fight, it would be nice to jump to a second or third story (or higher) to get the heck out of there. Let?s not forget that technique just yet.
This demonstrates the problem of wacthing Star Wars while tripping. Repeat after me: "It was only a movie; only a movie; only a movie."
It is seems much easier to fly in hyperspace when our corporeal bodies are not holding us back.
Yes, that is how imagination works.
It also seems there are ?wormholes? (or at least it?s easier to see them) in hyperspace - so simply flying might still be an amateur way to get around to Gods.
Some of us do not yet have professional status.
Yes, everyone can do it. Having a deep connection to any religion or a strong love for a belief system can help you gain an afterlife as a God.
I strongly believe that you are putting us on. Does that qualify me?
That happened long ago, and although recently the Elohim claimed that they learned from their mistakes and want to help us evolve in our science ? with the crop circles and scientific diagrams they?ve burned into fields as a large ?blackboard?
What kind of advanced race communicates with a 2*4, some string and some oats?
So you and say Jarwar are both Elohims who didn't agree with the project?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
#2766286 - 06/05/04 12:36 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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that was fun to read.
but it seems to me someone who knows so much would take into account how insane he/she sounds.
if u are trying to convey something... you may want to rethink how your saying it..
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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BleaK makes a good point. Perhaps you should have thought this through a bit more, eh? Compiling all this information into a comprehensive, organized form before posting bits and pieces to a few message boards would have had more of an impact, don't you think? Start off with a few reasonable assertions, then gradually lead the public into the "truth." It's a much more effective way to attain a cult following. Otherwise you simply sound like a raving lunatic, which is fine if you're just having a bit of fun; but if you want people to take you seriously, then you'd better plan this out.
Then again, who am I to give you advice? You have super-intelligent deities to do that sort of thing. My bad. 
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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O Great Spiritual Guide, I prostrate to you, whom to see, to hear, and to behold is so meaningful. O Great Vajrasattva, Crown Ornament of Buddha Jewels as extensive as space, you are surrounded by all the great spiritual guides, Buddha's, Bodhisattvas, and Dharma Protectors, like the full moon surrounded by stars. O Consort to the second Buddha of this fortunate aeon and to Vajradhara at his heart radiating infinite light in ten directions, please accept as offering a perfect and pure universe filled with inexhaustible wells of pure water, clear light, sweet smelling incense, perfume and delicious food, all of which are emptiness, which are actual offering, and which are inner offering. May these offerings have no end like the continuum of buddhamind, and may they fill you with constant delight. Please pour down your inspiring blessings so that I may liberate myself and all living beings who, like an ocean, populate emptiness in samsara.
Om Bendzay Sattva Samaya Manu Palaya Bendzay Sattva Deno Patitha Dido May Bhawa Suto Kayo May Bhawa Supo Kayo May Bhawa Anurakto May Bhawa Sarwa Siddhi May Par Ya Tsa Sarwa Karma Su Tsa May Chittam Shriyam Kuru Hung Ha Ha Ha Ha Ho Bhagawan Sarwa Tathagata Bendzay Mah May Mu Tsa Bendzay Bahwa Maha Samaya Sattva Ah Hung Pay
I offer a mandala in your presence. Please accept it so that your blessings may never run out.
Om Bendzay Sattava Hum
Om Ah Hum.
Om Ah Hum.
Om Ah Hum.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Ped]
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Brilliant, Ped.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: metamind]
#2770223 - 06/06/04 08:19 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
As far as I know, no shroomerite had a hand in killing Jesus, Gandhi nor any other visionary.
I was talking about humans in general over the centuries (mostly us whites killing important people).
Back to healing this planet:
What if someone invented a machine that could cure virtually any disease and was affordable to buy and easy to use?
Surely such a machine would immediately be hailed as one of the greatest achievements of all time right?
Throughout history most new medical breakthroughs have not been so easily accepted. Take for example Mr. Semmelweiss who struggled for years to convince surgeons to practice sterile procedures. Then there was Pasteur who was ridiculed for years about his germ theory. Roentgen was held back with his x-rays, Morton for his ether anesthesia, Harvey for his theory of blood circulation and many more. The big business of the medical world doesn't like things to change very fast because it usually represents a threat to their massive profits in some way.
Well certainly the many research foundations who receive hundreds of millions of dollars per year in the form of donations and grants would be happy about a cure, right?
Think again. That would cause their funds to dry up virtually overnight and put them out of business. I'm sure that all the executives making six figure incomes in these foundations won't let that happen.
What about the pharmaceutical companies, surely they would be interested in such a machine right?
Think again! These companies will be very unhappy to learn that a small handheld machine costing $700 could make most drugs today obsolete and put an end to their gravy train. Perhaps they would even try to stop anyone with such a machine especially since there are virtually billions of dollars at stake. Maybe they would even try to quietly get rid of anyone with such a machine.
What about hospitals and big clinics, wouldn't they want a machine like this? They won't be very happy about a therapy which can be administered in any doctor's office or by the patient himself and which reverses illness before a patient has to be hospitalized. People would have little use for hospitals except for actual trauma related injuries and accidents. Hospitals would loose billions of dollars in revenue per year and be forced to massively downsize their staff.
Well what about the insurance companies, wouldn't they be happy about such a machine? Most insurance companies would start to loose lots of policy holders when people realize that they can be cured by a simple machine which uses about as much electricity to operate as a small radio. Since this cure is so cheap, most people would not care much about having medical insurance. The insurance industry would not be happy about the billions of dollars of lost revenue from such a machine.
Now do you really think that if such a machine existed that you would know about it?
Well this machine does exist and has been around for decades!
It was invented by Royal Raymond Rife in the 1930's. Rife was the first man on earth to see a living virus using his special Rife Universal Microscope. Rife's discoveries were confirmed by many doctors and scientists worldwide during his lifetime. In 1934 Rife cured 100% of a group of terminal cancer patients brought to him by a special medical research committee. Forty four of the nation's most respected medical authorities honored Rife with a banquet billed as "The end to all Disease".
A short time later nearly all of these people denied they ever even met Rife. The AMA (American Medical Association) shut Rife down and kept him quiet for decades. Lives were threatened and pressure was brought to bear against anyone who supported him or even confirmed his work. Bribe money was paid to prominent doctors who witnessed Rife's work to simply forget they ever met him. People were even filled and poisoned and laboratories and research was burned and destroyed.
Rife died in 1971 but his work has survived in an underground black market to researchers for many years. Now through painstaking research it is available again!
-taken from futurehorizons.net (the machine is available there as I mentioned).
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2770233 - 06/06/04 08:22 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Fluff book? Psychedelic Shamanism? I dare you to read it cover to cover Swami and then you'll shut the fuck up finally. If you did read it and then made that comment then you're even denser than you seem here on the boards.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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are you trying to push this product or that website?
why dont you buy a machine, and heal some people(theres plently of sick people around), then get back to us. whats your excuse?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: CleverName]
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The only thing I am pushing is peace & the end of ignorance. That site has just always delivered and never would deliever a product that was bogus.
Aside from helping to heal the plenty of sick people around the world I donate to many charities - although I'm not wealthy and have 4 kids - I make sure they're fed and happy and then donate whatever surplus I have to those that need it. When you can do that, my friend, then you get back to us.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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i was in the peace corp for over 5 years serving in the poorest villages in africa. i donated my life, everything i had...ive seen countless people...children, women, mothers, fathers, die of hiv, its an equal oppotunity killer. my best friend who served with me, died of hiv. what do you know about it?
im not going around spewing about this miracle cure. if its all you say it is, then prove it...i would like nothing more than for it to work.
so once again...why dont you buy one and prove me wrong?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: CleverName]
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It seems that we agree on that important thing - helping the dying.
The passage up above shows how it's been suppressed and I am trying to aquire one.
If you want me to buy one and send it to the creators of Shroomery.org with instructions then that sounds cool - maybe the validity of the machine will be emphasized within this community.
I'm finally realizing the truth of the statement "self-cherishing is the cause of suffering" - for when you cherish others you are beginning a huge healing process. That's hard to do though in our modern-day materialistic society; but it's even more important now for us to find ourselves and our purpose here in this 3-dimensional world.
I guess I was caught off guard by other remarks from ICQ and drug sites about my grammar and what not. I apologize to Swami for my reaction. There may, in fact, be books that run even deeper into the practice of Shamanism and Buddhism and a mixture of the two (for Shamanism is still just a hypothesis - and I would go as far as to say that Buddhism is also just a hypothesis ** although it's turning out very wonderful results i.e. freakin BUDDHAS. But, the system is SO VAST is what I'm getting at and sometimes even the Gods are a little perplexed.
I also feel that Taoism and the sacrament of hygeine is overlooked by many spiritual seekers (not just smelling good but inner hygeine and keeping the house very clean to prevent microbe infestation - also the art of Feng Shui and the amazing spiritual power and attunement to the Time-Dimensional forces it offers).
However, if you're still interested in a challenge in Hyperspace to see who's master of Earth I'm game Swami. Although the Gods have massive power - they no longer have the "thorn" in their side to really get a true revolution going and keep it going until the tyranny of these gov'ts and the oppression is stopped. They are wonderful allies though in this cause. They've earned their right to be anaesthetized and live in utter euphoria though they still take the time to help when we call on them. Here's the bottom line - we're underestimating our power as humans and overestimating the powers of the Gods. (Probably from the monotheism that's infested this planet talking naively about omnipotence and omniscience) They are much more powerful than us but, like a human and dog's relationship, you can still get bitten and harmed by a pissed off dog. So, don't let any evil Archons mess with you too - it's best to simply ally yourself with a good God like Vajrasattva or Jesus.
That's Jar Jar (not Jarwar) and no I've never watched Star Wars tripping LOL. I use psychedelics infrequently & was too busy with martial arts and my girlfriends (and weed). But, now I'm on a mission and I will only mess with psychedelic boozes and the finest of homegrown weed when I build my multi-faceted greenhouse behind my temple.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Start off with a few reasonable assertions, then gradually lead the public into the "truth." It's a much more effective way to attain a cult following.
Who the fuck wants a cult following? This isn't Scott O. you're dealing with this is Satan. I can do this simply by educating & getting key figures on this tiny rock enlightened. Of course I'm standing on the shoulders of giants and can't take all the credit for getting you guys out of your stupor. I'm having clairvoyant dreams that I will become a Buddha but would gladly be in service as a human or a fuckin' bug for thousands of years if it will get you people to stop wasting time like this.
So, don't think you can be evil and then simply post some messages and become absolved of your sins. I live and breathe this stuff and look inside deeply everyday. It's hard for everyone in human form to not fall prey to delusion and neuroses - but I'm not joking around when I say I'm talking to the Gods and they are helping me to start a spiritual revolution on this planet. Sometimes you gotta let someone out of jail to help with a certain case and I was a freakin' lucky bastard and the gods need me now. So, again don't think you'll get a ticket out if you decide to do evil deeds. I'm serious about the fact that, even if you pray and chant 100 times to the supreme God Heruka Vajrasattva everyday for help in cleansing your karma, you still have really only barely cleansed your karma that you accumulated THAT DAY. So, I suggest you start going a little deeper than dissing my grammar and my "eccentric" thoughts.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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If you want me to buy one and send it to the creators of Shroomery.org with instructions then that sounds cool - maybe the validity of the machine will be emphasized within this community.
You hook that up, to the shroomery creators, and get them to post in all the forums with "RIFE MACHINE WORKS", headed by trendal, shroomism, and ALL the other mods, all backing it up, and I will soley dedicate myself to spreading the word.
Until then, I'm remaining skeptic.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Shroomism]
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shroomism, i whanna hear what you know about all of this!
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2770697 - 06/07/04 12:06 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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What if someone invented a machine that could cure virtually any disease and was affordable to buy and easy to use?
Umm, a condom?! What did I win?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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The only thing I am pushing is peace...
I dare you to read it cover to cover Swami and then you'll shut the fuck up finally. If you did read it and then made that comment then you're even denser than you seem here on the boards.
I am bathing in the peaceful waves that emanate from your holy being.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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As far as I know, no shroomerite had a hand in killing Jesus, Gandhi nor any other visionary.
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I was talking about humans in general over the centuries (mostly us whites).
From one faulty generalization to another. *Yawn* I share no guilt for what another human being did.
FYI, there is no group of people that fit in the group of "whites"; either by color or by genetics.
Sorry, try again later.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
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condoms...and easy to use?
haha, you only have a small window of time to open the packaging before its too late (seinfeld)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: CleverName]
#2770984 - 06/07/04 06:50 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Had a hot date the other night so I whipped open my wallet and dug out my "emergency" spare. Under the grime I could barely make out the message "Use before Jan 1974", but I went ahead anyways. Gee, abortions are such fun...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Yeah, that cult following thing was sarcasm. I'm sorry you focused on that part of my post. But let's, for a moment, assume that you believe yourself. If that's the case, no one has a right to attack you, and I apologize for my cynical reply. Under this assumption, it's ALMOST safe to assume that you are, in fact, delusional, probably as a result of an over-zealous (drug-induced?) search for truth and meaning. But let's ignore rational thinking for a second and assume that everything you've said is true. In that case, I'm plagued with these thoughts:
Why give scattered interpretations of history and thoughts on a few message boards? You've supposedly been entrusted with an immeasurably important task of supremely epic proportions. How could you hope to convince anyone of any of this, aside from the desperate and gullible? Maybe anything's possible, but you're throwing out ONE possibility with NOTHING CONCRETE to back it up. Your posts are littered with vague references and buzz words and little more. Honestly, I'm sure plenty of people are ready to be bowled over with extraordinary truths. So, I challenge you to do just that. Give us something concrete. You SHOULD be able to, right? If you can't, and you still believe all of this, then perhaps it's time to reevaluate your beliefs.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2771757 - 06/07/04 12:08 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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that website that sell the 'rife machine' says this on their FAQ's...
"12. Is there any way I can contact you by phone to have my questions answered?
We do not generally give our office phone number out to customers. This is due to the fact that we do not have a lot of time to be answering the phone. When you are working with the equipment that we do, it is best if you go undisturbed. We strongly recommend e-mailing us with questions.
13. Why was I told something different by the woman who took my order by phone?
While this is not generally the case, sometimes our answering service gives out wrong information concerning the availability of products and the waiting time. Once again, if you have a question about an order, please e-mail us. That is what we are here for. The answering service people are there to take orders. They do not know about the items in great detail. "
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: CleverName]
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Erowid has some cool stuff even on drums - I decided to check out the spiritual side of the site instead of drug info tonight : "Through shamanic journeying, using the drum, we can travel along our energy field lines through those dimensions -- in "ordinary," 3-D reality, or the non- ordinary "middle world, in shamanic terms, or elsewhere, anywhere on Earth or in other universes. Remember in the movie "The Best And The Brightest" when an Australian aborigine, told that the space program's goal was to reach the Moon, was unimpressed? He said, "I've been there."
In Dreamtime, you can go anywhere. We all have psychic ability. This is shown by Dean Radin, Ph.D., writing in Psychology Today (July/August 2000). She tells of an editor of a well-known magazine who came to her clinic asking if there really is a sixth sense, or ESP, abilities that transcend the usual boundaries of space and time.
She had the woman sit before a blank computer screen, hooked up to monitors measuring skin resistance and blood flow and showed her sequences of randomly selected images. Afterward, they compared the readings.
"This bump shows that your body responded to emotional pictures before the computer selected them. And this flat line," she said, pointing to the other line, "shows that your body did not respond before calm pictures were shown. You see? Your body was responding to your future emotion before the computer randomly selected an emotional or calm picture."
She added: "We can now demonstrate in the laboratory what at some level we've known all along: Many people literally get a gut feeling before something bad happens. Our viscera warn us of danger even if our conscious mind doesn't always get the message." Although in most of us, psychic ability is fleeting and often haphazard, it can be induced and sustained through such techniques as drumming"
-from jimdonovanmusic.com (from a link at Erowid.com)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Just one of many different paths to the same top of the mountain - but, of course, it's the journey that's important and not the end. 'Cause there really is no "end". Unless you can become a "rainbow body" which is a state beyond Godhood where your body returns back to the essense of the universe from where it came (people have reported seeing rainbow colors when a true master attains this state)and it's the complete end of the cycle of suffering -- also saying it's extremely difficult is an understatement -- and the only thing left of the body is the fingernails and some hair, the impurities, when the body's remains are found.
More cool drumming stuff:
Of course, the ability of sound to induce meditative states was well known thousands of years ago to ancient Hindu and Buddhist cultures, which used rhythmic chanting, singing bowls, finger chimes and other methods to transcend ordinary consciousness, as well. Drumming, by combining the vibrational tones of meditation and the 180-cycles-per-second beat approximating the base resonant frequency of the Earth itself, thus, becomes not only a powerful meditation tool, but a way to tap into our psychic inner ability to travel over vast distances, effect cures, and know -- and affect -- the future.
Drunvalo Melchizedek in this books, "The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life," Vols. 1 & 2 (Light Technology; Flagstaff, Ariz.; 2000), explains the effects of being in contact with "all-time-no-time" in time and space through defining the human energy field as a "permanent merkaba" in the shape of a star tetrahedron. That energy field or the human aura, he says, extends 27 feet in each direction in its most dense form, but it also extends through space and time and other dimensions.
-excerot also from jimdonovanmusic.com written by a Jim Ewing, an About.com member, who's a Reiki Master and shamanic healer.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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speaking of rainbow bodies,
ive always had this thought that all the trees and, well, basically all the flora, are all organims that reach a certain enlightenment. they just meditate and are sitting there, but we see them different. i dunno, its strange.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Atomisk]
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while some of them are palaving,
some of them 're keep starving, keep starving, keep starving.
--eek 'a mouse
posting on these boards won't bringt any happiness to the
world, but rather confusion due to your long posts without
actual answering any questions posed. if you really are an
asura you should know about the earth's situation and
rather help to heal it than even increase the confusion
and eventual destruction that follows from it.
it seems that all you are trying to do is gain energy by
throwing out useless, random information...
NUK AST AU NEKEH ERTAI-NEF TETTA!
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Haha it's true - Thanks Gandhi:
"First they laugh at you; then they
ignore you; then they fight you and
then you win."
-Mahatma Gandhi
I wanted to clear up something that was ambiguous that I wrote before:
--The Grey then retreated to the "other side" of Venus.--
What I was implying was the other side of that planet Venus from the Elohim colony
that's also been set up there. With planets revolving as they do it was unclear what I meant by the "other side of Venus". Also, remember everything is Tao (The Way) and all paths are valid. So, all the propaganda I was ranting about the Elohim doesn't mean they're not interesting and phenomenal aliens - they just made too many mistakes on this planet and I made the decision that we didn't need them around. (with all our Gods and Titans that have evolved here we'll be ok without their power trips. " (Titan being another word from demi-god. Bodhisattvas fall under that category & other titans you'll find making huge power moves on Wall Street. Others you may see making movies in Hollywood & others can levitate to the tops of trees.) Not all of them are good - some are pretty evil. It's just a word to describe a level of power.
On to more healing of this planet:
Subject:John Hopkins Newsletter
Johns Hopkins has recently sent this out in their newsletters.
This information is being circulated atWalter Reed Army Medical Center.
Dioxin Carcinogens cause cancer. Especially breast cancer. Don't
freeze plastic water bottles with water in them as this also releases
dioxin from the plastic. Dr. Edward Fujimoto from Castle hospital
was on a TV program explaining this health hazard. (He is the manager
of the Wellness Program at the hospital.) He was talking about
dioxins and how bad they are for us.
He said we should not heat our food in the microwave using plastic
containers. &nbs! p;This applies particularly to foods that contain fat. He
said that the combination of fat, high heat and plastics releases
dioxin into the food and ultimately into the cells of the body.
Dioxin are carcinogens and highly toxic to the cells of our bodies.
Instead, he recommends using glass, Corni ng Ware, or ceramic
containers for heating food. You get the same results ...without the
dioxin.
So such things as TV dinners, instant ramen and soups, etc., should be
removed from the container and heated in something else. Paper isn't
bad but you don't know what is in the paper. Just safer to use
tempered glass, Corning Ware, etc.
Remember when some of the fast food restaurants moved away from the
foam containers to paper? The dioxin problem is one of the reasons.
To add to this: Saran wrap placed over fo! ods as they are nuked, with
the high heat, actually drips poisonous toxins into the food, use
paper towels instead.
Please pass this on to your family & friends, & those who are
important in your life.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Thich Nhat Hanh is a wonderful master and I strive to become as wise and complacent as he is:
"People usually consider walking on water or in thin air a miracle. But I think the real miracle is not to walk on water or in thin air, but to walk on earth. Everyday we are engaged in a miracle which we don't even recognize: a blue sky, white clouds, green leaves...All is a miracle."
-from the Miracle of Mindfulness
Now, I've tried to relinquish this duty as World Leader to Avalokiteshvara's emanation the Dalai Lama but I'm being told again and again that I'm better suited for the position. He's healing this planet in a way I can't even begin to touch and I would just rather be his crazy shaman sidekick. I am the jack of all trades w/black belts and some healing knowledge and some meditation work. I have love for my people and want to rule with that love and not fear. I want the best for the all sentient beings.
Someone had to step in to stop the evil machine that was governing the United States. They're shocked to see my power and are standing down from their attacks on me - but if we have to stop them from jailing and seizing all our Shamans and Botanists then I'll need you in a fight to completely end the War on Drugs. There's a difference between a coup de tat & a REVOlution. Everyone is seeing that the American gov't is abusing it's power and now that we've out-grown them during this information age (we used the information age to our advantage and got more wise and spiritually in-tune while the machine of the government went through an "automaton age". They just follow orders and know useless info about protocol & cover-ups).
This revolution can occur peacefully because, as I ended the threat of the Grey and the Elohim, they feel grateful and will end the prohibition of Marijuana and Hemp, legalize clinical research on all non-physiologically addictive drugs of course including typtamines and phenethylamines - - and double the punishment for DUI as well as double the Internal Affairs effort.
NIDA, a part of the National Institues of Health (NIH) will have a $900,000 million dollar budget cut (from their previous billion dollar annual budget to fight the War on Drugs primarily). We'll have the extra money for the aforementioned changes from billion-dollar cut. We can also aid in helping the stability of the country by making the US cut taxes & force Bush to stop the psychotic military spending. The doctors and scientists from NIDA who lose their jobs can work on healing the planet of AIDS from this simple Rife Machine and will get a paid vacation (with a budget of slightly less then their salary.) I will find new jobs for them researching on OUR side of obtaining drug info (the good side - the side not interested in bias but objective studies for substances that help us evolve.
As I said before, the physiologically addictive drugs have no place in this world so we'll need more research into DXM hydrocitrate and start helping these patients to wean off these physically addictive drugs. I'm making the exception of marijuana's addictive properties because of recent evidence that cannabinoids are neuroprotective against brain injury resulting from toxins, hypoxia and head trauma. Also, we'll need to grow more marijuana and hemo tp trade some of the trichomes (the pretty crystals) in our first intrastellar space trade with our friendly lizard-like & intelligent neighbors from Neptune. I'll be the first to sample their meats for trade and, pending scientific analysis and proper tests for sterilization (before the cargo even reaches Earth) then we'll decide to bring it on down.
It's time to pull out of the Middle East and get Bush out of office. Kerry would be the best bet for now (but still keep an eye on him). I'll reside as the Leader of Earth but there's still a need for smaller offices such as America.
I'll keep an eye out for more alien threats and keep my Shamans ready too. It's time to party here on earth and make it easier for people to create home-based businesses, clear out the AIDS virus & cancer, poverty and the gap between rich and poor. It will take some work but the way America was headed by mixing church and state was never going to get these problems resolved. To Christians zealots, the sick and dying are that way because Jehovah decided they should and they should stay that way - wake up!
The following may sound cliched but is really true:
Drugs are the symptom of a failing society
They do not cause a society to fail.
I legalize key botanicals to establish a space trade, stop the erosion of soils with the deep-reaching roots of hemp and marijuana & to stop that "taboo" that the younger kids rebel against by partaking in "illegal" drugs. Anyway, the fines for driving while under the influence of these drugs, as I said, are doubled and the jail time as well.
For the love of the Gods, I'd like to stop seeing kids under 10 (13 I think is the legal age) in the front seats of cars. I'm considering making it mandatory for a parent to go to 1 driving class if pulled over with this situation -a class where you see movie after movie of exactly happens with the physics of crashing your car. You can be the best driver and be driving slowly but if someone comes crashing into you your kid is toast (especially with the added danger of suffocation by an air bag) And, no, your arm will not protect the kid if you try to drape it across him/her during impact. I'll try to make car seats more affordable. That will be my next project. I make changes -- I don't just make promises like many politicians.
Edited by spacedragon (08/23/04 11:11 PM)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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"People usually consider walking on water or in thin air a miracle. But I think the real miracle is not to walk on water or in thin air, but to walk on earth."
For a "master", he shows little understanding of common words. A miracle is "An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God."
Walking on the ground is totally explicable by the laws of nature and is not unusual; whereas no human being can demonstrate waking on liquid water.
Very deep.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Revelation]
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OK Rev, which would you find to be more amazing:
1. Walking on earth.
2. Walking on water.
Straight and direct answer please.
(Editor's note: perhaps we should each redefine commonly accepted words and meanings so as to make written and verbal communication totally impossible.)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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"get Bush out of office. Kerry would be the best bet for now (but still keep an eye on him)."
i think many people agree that whoever is in office is probably crooked in some way...but most people are...
but i think bush has more power, more contacts around the world, so i say keep him in there!
they both suck...bush looks out for america pretty good, or as good as anyone else running.
it all comes down to money and power, he has both. also, i like the fact that he is an alcoholic, (although he doesnt drink anymore), but he quit and going through something like that makes character...i dont know what im talking about 
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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"I make changes -- I don't just make promises like many politicians. "
how are you gonna go about making these changes?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: sleepysmoker]
#2776525 - 06/08/04 10:32 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Helping to end suffering & navigating the afterlife to "choose" a human form is the greatest trick I think. Screw the magic tricks.
This is the real magic:
The Dalai Lamas are the manifestations of the Bodhisattva (Buddha) of Compassion, who chose to reincarnate to serve the people. Lhamo Dhondrub was, as Dalai Lama, renamed Jetsun Jamphel Ngawang Lobsang Yeshe Tenzin Gyatso - Holy Lord, Gentle Glory, Compassionate, Defender of the Faith, Ocean of Wisdom. Tibetans normally refer to His Holiness as Yeshe Norbu, the Wishfulfilling Gem or simply Kundun - The Presence.
Edited by spacedragon (08/23/04 11:13 PM)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2776760 - 06/09/04 12:14 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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at this point it looks like hell is closer to earth than heaven
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2776783 - 06/09/04 12:23 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lhamo Dhondrub was, as Dalai Lama, renamed Jetsun Jamphel Ngawang Lobsang Yeshe Tenzin Gyatso - Holy Lord, Gentle Glory, Compassionate, Defender of the Faith, Ocean of Wisdom. Tibetans normally refer to His Holiness as Yeshe Norbu, the Wishfulfilling Gem or simply Kundun - The Presence.
When one is free of the bond of ego, when doesn't need titles and accolades.
Here is the real Jetsun:
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
#2776949 - 06/09/04 01:55 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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'one' will NEVER be free of the ego(even on 15g of mushrooms)
the ego is life as we know it on earth
embrace the ego but do not let your ego embrace YOU
for when the latter happens, it becomes a power play
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Either this guy did lots of acid and is permafried or hes seriously nuts.
Anyone want to place a bet?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2778077 - 06/09/04 12:50 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I mistyped. I meant that NIDA would get a $900,000,000 budget cut and the final deal will be that I won't be getting $240,000 a year (for the job of keeping the Earth safe is part of my office as World Leader) but the gov't will clear all my debts so I can just concentrate at the job at hand.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2779344 - 06/09/04 07:46 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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are you now or were you ever a dragon?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
#2779442 - 06/09/04 08:08 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Swami said:
"People usually consider walking on water or in thin air a miracle. But I think the real miracle is not to walk on water or in thin air, but to walk on earth."
For a "master", he shows little understanding of common words. A miracle is "An event that appears inexplicable by the laws of nature and so is held to be supernatural in origin or an act of God."
Walking on the ground is totally explicable by the laws of nature and is not unusual; whereas no human being can demonstrate waking on liquid water.
Very deep.
If you don't understand that this is a miracle I am sorry for you, swami. This is all about poetry and being in the moment and realizing that it is a miracle to exist.
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In the strangest of places if you look at it right...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Phishgrrl]
#2779472 - 06/09/04 08:15 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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You are sorry that I am an educated man instead of an ignoramus? If a "normal" everyday activity is a miracle, then the word miracle has no meaning whatsoever, now does it? A miracle is an event outside of the ordinary. Why is that difficult to understand?
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i bet you are wrong on both counts.
i think what he is saying makes good sence...that is, if you are talking about what 2Experimental said.
if you are talking about spacedragon...he seems to be pretty sane about what he says, accepting that he might be delusional and all. i think what he says is tight as hell, at least. how do you know it isnt true? lol i like conspirocy theory type shit.
i havent read it yet, but i think a lot of what he is saying is similar to what william cooper says in his book, "behold a pail horse"
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: sleepysmoker]
#2782718 - 06/10/04 04:32 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Sleepysmoker, I agree that spacedragons postings are entertaining.
Although, they are just words and we are forced to draw conclusions about his character through what he says. He says hes recovering to divinity and good god-hood from being Satan (a specific Christian invented deity) who will now be Earth leader and begin trade (marijuana trichomes for food) with an alien race. The Government put a bomb underneath his car because they are afraid to use a sniper rifle, but now since he supressed the Elohim threat...blah blah blah.
Its summer time, its hallucinogen season. Prepare for lots of non-sensical ramblings from people who wish life was more like Lord of the Rings or Star Wars (hell I do too, but it isnt going to happen). There is far more reason to not believe this dude than to believe him.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: psyka]
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lol, true...but im gonna rest in the middle. id like to believe parts of it are true, so until i am shown it is bullshit or truth i am undecided.
i havent been forced to draw any conclusions about his character.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: sleepysmoker]
#2783253 - 06/10/04 08:58 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thich Nhat Hanh has a good point about the current situation in Iraq: ?The only way for America to free itself from this situation is to help build the United Nations into a real body of peace so that the United Nations will take over the problem of Iraq and of the Middle East. America is powerful enough to make this happen. America should allow other nations to contribute positively to building the United Nations into a true organization for peace with enough authority to do it?s job. To me, that is the only way out of our current situation.?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: sleepysmoker]
#2783342 - 06/10/04 09:34 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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lol thats not what I meant, man. I dont mean that in the way that I said it. Let me re-explain: you have to put your own logic and imagination into the ideas and thoughts of others to make sure it makes sense for your own belief system. You dont expect me to believe absolutely everything do you?
Well, I dont mean to sound like an ass, I'm sure spacedragon is an awesome guy and one could learn a lot from him...but I just dont buy what he's saying right now.
Action over words.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2783350 - 06/10/04 09:37 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's hilarious Swami:
YOU SAID THIS ADAM
(then you insert Beevis & Butthead comment here)
After the Jetsun (George Jetson) joke I think you're on to something. You could be a court jester for me and make us all laugh.
I haven't been able to post much because I've been frequenting sites to help w/autism. There's been a 300% rise in autism in America, and I'm sure other countries have similar problems, because of the mercury in vaccinations. Luckily none of my kids got it because the super blue-green algae I give them has helped to chelate the metals out of their systems. Also, after getting the water purifier last year they've been healthier because the chlorine in regular tap-water can decimate the healthy intestinal flora in our bodies - giving rise to more candida albicans (yeast infections which occur freqently in the gut in both males and females - but it is called thrush when it occurs in the mouth) with our lack of active enzymes in our modern day foods.
The average human 500 years ago would have 4 or 5 pounds of healthy flora in his/her gut. Acidophilus & Bifidus are important probiotics (literally meaning "for life" and can produce B-vitamins and antibiotic like substances (i.e. acidophilus colonies in the gut will produce acidophilin -- a very powerful antibiotic that doesn't lay waste to the colonies of healthy bacteria like allopathic antibiotics do.)
Check this out because for any of you that have kids or younger siblings it may be good to be aware of this:
"First, do no harm. If the multibillion-dollar vaccine industry had heeded Hippocrates' ancient dictum and concentrated on making vaccines safe, the 300% to 500% nationwide increase in autism probably would not have occurred. Concern for vaccine safety might have prevented the simultaneous sharp rise in other chronic and debilitating diseases such as asthma, allergies, attention deficit/hyperactivity disorder, learning disabilities, arthritis and Crohn's disease.
The cause of the skyrocketing rates of these disorders, like the rise in autism, has mystified the experts. Many thoughtful and informed people believe that medical overexuberance has resulted in an unintended trade-off: Vaccination against acute diseases such as measles and rubella has increased susceptibility to chronic disorders such as autism, asthma, arthritis and ADHD.
Am I overstating the case? I don't think so. We learned in the latter half of the 20th century that one must be careful in tinkering with Mother Nature. Those marvelous pesticides, herbicides, gasoline additives and other miracles of modern chemistry have a downside. While we now know that toxic pollution of the environment is bad news, we are just beginning to learn that pumping toxins--viruses, bacteria, mercury, aluminum and formaldehyde, for example--into the body in the form of vaccinations for immediate gain may prove to be costly in the long term. Those who share my view do not oppose vaccines. What we oppose is over-vaccination and unsafe vaccines.
Most people are shocked to learn that in recent years, the number of vaccine doses a child receives before entering school has risen to 33. There are more than 200 other vaccines--expensive and profitable--under development. In 1965, parents began telling me that their children became autistic upon getting the DPT (diphtheria, pertussis, tetanus) shot--a triple vaccine.
Bernard Rimland Is Director of the Autism Research Institute, Based in San Diego; Editor of the Autism Research Review International; Founder of the Autism Society of America, and Father of a 44-year-old Autistic Son.
Edited by spacedragon (10/06/04 11:09 AM)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2783368 - 06/10/04 09:44 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Last thing I wanted to post about the subject was this:
(What we can do about it)
Enzymes. What a key. Lets start that digestive process. Hi-Grade acidophilus and bifidus. Give them the good bacteria. Stabilize the PH. Get rid of that dreaded yeast. Clear that intestinal wall. Nourish them with clean water, and whole food. Let the sludge go in the toilet where it belongs. Stop the chronic diarrhea that many autistic children have suffered from since birth. Oxygenate that blood. Let's feed our children's brain (and to think people are so unaware that yes this is occurring in America...Every single minute of the day.). How did you guess?
Yes many of our children have a decreased immune function...Prone to illness, given antibiotic therapy as a treatment to the symptom and voila; more yeast and yes another circle! Many of our kids suffer with chronic ear infections and bladder infections as well. How do we improve their immune functioning? Certainly, by now, not with synthetic folic acid? Yes, supporting the intestinal tract improves the immune functioning..but what about adding whole food nutrition? Whole food nutrition that is wild-crafted. Naturally balanced with all the vitamins, minerals, fatty acids, elements etc., by mother nature herself. Whole food that has been flashed freezed, put into convenient to take capsules, and tested by multiple labs for purity and quality assurance. How about the AFA strain of blue green algae? Easily assimilated by the body. Lets give our children the option of having a nutritional source that allows their body to take what they individually need an eliminate what they don't. With No ISOLATES attached. Many of our children have been Vaccination injured. Yes, some immunizations have thimerasol (mercury), and formaldehyde and now anti-freeze. Isn't this just lovely? Many of our kids are indeed metal toxic. Found with mercury and Aluminum in their hair and urine. I wonder how much is in their brain? I think we can guess what happens when you are metal toxic. Just compare mercury poisoning to the characteristics of autism. It is sickening!
Excerpt by Joni M. Jones
RN (Vice President of POAC-Parents of Autistic Children, Member of the NJ State Autistic Task Force,Member of VOSI-Voices of Safety International, Member of the coalition for inclusive education.) * Son Jeffrey is 6 with Asperger's syndrome, and son Adam is 4 with Autism.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2783380 - 06/10/04 09:46 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey spacedragon, wanna know somethign weird?
I've been looking at autism information sites all day today. I was trying to prove my friend wrong that one cannot recover from autism; I couldnt find any COMPLETE recovery story's from anywhere.
I find this to be a very odd coincidence that you should find interesting
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: psyka]
#2783402 - 06/10/04 09:56 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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That is a cool coincidence. Please spread the word that there is help. These people are suffering greatly.
Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Los Angeles), in his defense of vaccines, cites the American Medical Assn., the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Centers for Disease Control as asserting that vaccines are safe. These organizations have much credibility to lose by acknowledging how weak and how sparse are the data on vaccine safety. Congress made a major mistake in enacting the National Vaccine Injury Compensation Act in the 1980s. It transferred liability for unsafe vaccines from the manufacturer to families through a surcharge on each vaccination. Why would the drug companies pay for vaccine safety testing if the public will pick up the tab for the damage their vaccines cause? Would Ford or General Motors do research on product safety such as faulty gas tanks if they were automatically indemnified by consumers? We cannot afford to deny, dismiss or sidestep the issue of vaccine safety. Research on this critical problem must be undertaken as the highest priority.
Bernard Rimland Is Director of the Autism Research Institute, Based in San Diego; Editor of the Autism Research Review International; Founder of the Autism Society of America, and Father of a 44-year-old Autistic Son
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2783412 - 06/10/04 09:58 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've been really concerned about these matters as well. In Florida, the water situation is really bad. A handful of unsafe toxins seem to spawn in our public drinking systems every 6 months.
I now pretty much only drink green tea, orange juice, water and some milk. The number of preservatives (and I'm sure even plastic toxins from packaging) in most corporate food today cant be very good for our bodies either, so my diet has turned very simple and fairly safe of preservatives. Basically, rice, occasionally chicken or fish, no beef, fruits and vegetables of course...oh and pizza \o/
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2783438 - 06/10/04 10:08 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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These symptoms are also prominent in people who have silver amalgam fillings (which contain mercury). The mercury is present to make the metal more malleable & somehow the American Dental Association thought it was ok to include it (there are lots of other constituents they could've used to make the metal change shape).
The average individual has eight amalgam fillings and could absorb up to 120 micrograms of mercury per day from their amalgams.
Now, not all dentists are in support of these filling & also caution not to try and get them all taken out at once. There is a risk that too much mercury can be entered into the system if done improperly.
Don't try to take them out yourselves because they are part of a filling (that's probably connected to the gums or nerves and will leak Hg) and it would be very dangerous.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2783752 - 06/11/04 12:49 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Spacedragon, are you autistic?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2783762 - 06/11/04 01:06 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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My mother would not allow my or my siblings to get amalgam fillings, we all had to get the plastic white fillings. I still get them whenever I need a filling 
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What you know you can't explain,
But you feel it;
You've felt it your entire life.
That there's something wrong with the world.
You don't know what it is, but it's there....
Like a splinter in your mind...
Driving you mad.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: trendal]
#2783999 - 06/11/04 05:10 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Real men can handle amalgam fillings. Bring it on!
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#2784718 - 06/11/04 10:55 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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...And then there is Alchemy - in this instance, the Chinese form, which included Mercury in their formulas for excessive longevity. A certain amount of Sulphur is natural to the body, which is the corresponding Alchemical substance. The ensuing youthfulness and longevity afford one more time to develop before departing this sphere.
How else would that fascinating phenomenon occur when one amalgam filling is applied to a thin oxide layer on an older filling, and people begin to receive the nearest high wattage AM radio station through their tooth which gets amplified in the jaw bone and becomes audible. Mercury - god of communication - messenger - psychopomp.
I was really pissed off when a former (paranoid I might add) neighbor put a Mercury vapor lamp up between our houses. My private back yard and pool were also flooded with silvery-blue light. One night, I witnessed a beam of Mercuy-light which passed between my vertical blinds, and illuminated a 16" bronze statue of the god Mercury - the centerpiece of my diningroom table. Wow! Nice synchronicity I thought. It softened my anger towards the inconsiderate neighbor who interfered with my skinny-dipping.
I should mention that I am a primarily 'Hermes-Mercury' personality, according to the fascinating work of Dr. Jean Shinoda-Bolen, a Jungian analyst whose book 'Gods in Every Man' [and 'Goddesses in Every Woman'] illustrates the different deities in classical Greece as archetypes that, in different proportions, create our individualities. But I digress in a big way. I could go on and on and on about Mercury - the Mercury switch that turns on my sprinklers, the one in my house thermostat, my thermometer from childhood, the pound of Hg that a housepainter gave me for my home lab after he realized that silvering a chain for his wife's neck might poison her....But I won't, because then the both of us would have to go for our Depacote or Lithium Carbonate treatments, so I'll quit from this end.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2785341 - 06/11/04 01:40 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Regarding dimensions, we exist in 3 spacial dimensions(x,y,z planes), and one time, for a total of four. String Theory also predicts that within every single point in the universe there are 6 more dimensions curled up real tight for a grand total of 11. Higher powers of consciousness, such as god, would actually operate in less, instead of more. They wouldn't be bound to such restraints as time and space . God would be singularity, one, etc.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: trendal]
#2787387 - 06/12/04 08:56 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Spacedragon, are you autistic?
answer: no
Please keep in mind, my friends, that LEO (Law Enforcement Officers)also frequent these boards & some of the posts like "Hey man, your like nutz" is because they don't want their shitty gov't to sink any more.
Bear in mind what they did to the guy trying to get the AIDS cure going in America (death threats & burning his lab) forcing him to go down south & then bribing the doctors whom he told about it. Then jailing the 18 year old kid who figured out a way to make cars run on water. Maybe he shouldn't have distributed a pamphlet all over called "free energy for everyone" but when a country condemns these wonderful thinkers for helping our Earth then it's time for a new gov't.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2787414 - 06/12/04 09:10 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's a good point about dimensions. I do believe there are more than 4 dimensions as well. I also believe that denizens of hyperspace somehow are able to travel unfettered by time and see back and forth in time.
God is just a word, to many of us on Earth, for a super-evolved being. On other planets they would have different words for these entities. That whole cop-out about he/she's everything and transcends all the laws of the time/space continuum is just too much confused over-glorification. When you actually meet one, it's interesting because at the same time you're completely in awe that they do exist and humans are not the pinnacle of evolution - it's hard not to be dissapointed that they're not all-knowing and omnipotent but it's also so wonderful that they're even taking the time to talk with you.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2787417 - 06/12/04 09:12 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'll be back - kids need a ride home from DuelMasters tournament.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2788768 - 06/12/04 09:18 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Ok, I would like to step in here and say this.
Sapcedragon. I've had experiences on the same line as yours. I've been told some rather extreme things by spirits (far from as extreme as the things you talk about, lol, but extreme enough in comparison to modern western rational logic) and with my knowledge I come to a number of conclusions about you.
I realize some of the things you say is very true information according to what i have learned through my journeys with the spiritual realm... and this, to me, is surprising, how we have come across similair information (you know, on how the spiritual realm works and all that).
But I find it difficult to believe all of what you are saying, even though I would like to believe it, some of the things you say just seem to "spaced-out". Like about entitys on planets in oursystem, battles in space and on earth and all of that... i mean comon.
I think you are finding truth in some areas, but it seems like your dillusional fantasies are intertwined with what you experience through your "spirtual teachings" and talks with gods. I dont think you have 100% clarity in this field, in my opinion. Alot of spirits talk in metaphors, and may say such things as "the battles of heaven and hell" meaning a battle between good and bad forces here on earth, for instance.
My question are as follow: What do you want us to do? What is going to be your next step in your plan to lead earth in the right direction?
And for you swami, I dont mean any offence, but you are way too ignorant for this thread, let alone this forum. When a person says "the real mirracle is to walk on earth" you dig up the dictionary to come with a reply, come on...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: filthysock]
#2789113 - 06/12/04 11:28 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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And for you swami, I dont mean any offence, but you are way too ignorant for this thread, let alone this forum. When a person says "the real mirracle is to walk on earth" you dig up the dictionary to come with a reply, come on...
Sorry, that I am grounded in reality and actually use words as they were meant to be used.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
#2790109 - 06/13/04 01:49 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Your taking on quite a job if you are going to argue against spacedragon with such modern rational western logic as you have. Just leave it be IMHO... its not gonna work, and not to mention how much your arguing, it seems more like your pointing fun.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2791326 - 06/13/04 10:05 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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To the original poster: Meaningful visions should NOT be taken at face value. Much of the weird shit assumes a very personal, though no less important, meaning. If you really had this vision consult a shaman or the closest thing to one you can find because that one sounded like a real humdinger of a vision. You get an A+ for visuals and creativity.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#2792076 - 06/14/04 09:47 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Thanks - for all the input. I even joke to my wife that this would make a good book or story. It's too bad it wasn't just one vision - but many messages over several months without the use of drugs.
The Archons do lie sometimes and we should be wary of their motives - also to make sure we know which Peaceful or Wrathful deity we're talking to. But, one thing they KEEP telling me is that I'm the reincarnation of Satan.
I've taken the liberty of ridding the other 2 DNA-projects of their Elohim occupants (The other 2 planets they innoculated with DNA). Those humans didn't deserve the treatment they got either. They may have evolved slightly differently in their environments but they probably still look like us. I didn't take the time to talk to them but just destroyed the pockets of Elohim I found to send a message back to their home planet.
Those planets are now ours to share commerce with and visit. Before you think I'm power hungry I just couldn't help but think they also deserve a chance like us to evolve to Gods and Goddesses. I want to empower my people (all the planets now) and not just myself. Consider this the final score I settled with the Elohim for raping our Earth for so long. They now lost their other 2 planets and we can communicate with them & work to prevent the little blue guys from coming back.
After considering calling them Earth 2 and Earth 3 - I took into consideration that they have their own names for their lands and planet and I don't want to take that. Of course, our super-evolved pantheon will be their rulers until they evolve to take care of themselves (or to make sure no sinister group of Gods from elsewhere move in.
Look, in the West we're just used to calling ourselves delusional or nuts when their's no physical evidence - but that's just too small minded. Sometimes it's what you feel in your heart that's important - and yes, at every minute you can, check yourself and say "Is this a delusion?" and don't just do everything the Gods tell you if it doesn't feel right.
Too many people who've heard voices in their heads have been locked up not just in prisons but in other psycho wards). I'm here to make a stand for the people who communicate with higher beings in the Spirit Realm and say fuck these stuffy loser psychoanalysts. You're fuckin' wrong and pretty ignorant even after spending thousands and thousands on a pseudo-education of the nature of reality. This Shaman King and his group of shaman helpers from some of these message boards - and some spiritually attuned Feng Shui grandmasters - are taking over now to protect this little globe.
The fuckin' shamen are what's going to save you in the upcoming years when the membrane (or barrier) between the 4th and 3rd dimension will weaken. This will happen more and more when we pass through a belt of photon energy and the earth get's more and more energized. Supposedly we'll be jumping to the 5th dimension and those who don't purify and start attuning to the higer vibrations will perish & those who are "down with it" will have a massive evolutionary change. When you find yourself in a room full of devils or a room full of angels because the barrier is weakening you won't find help or salvation in the stupid western acadaemia books.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2792185 - 06/14/04 10:12 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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It seems that you are not truly looking for input on this vision, but trying to validate it by placing it in writing on a public forum. This makes it assume many characteristics of a delusion. To imply that all mentally ill people are divinely inspired is grossly irresponsible. My brother is paranoid schizophrenic and I have seen him spin similar (though different type content) tales to this one. I have studied and practiced shamanism for over 10 years, but the story I see here is Unreal Tournament 2004 crossed with Star Trek with some Matrix thrown in then dip liberally in popular mysticism. It may be that this has meaning to you, but if you believe this to be a prophecy then you need to seek counseling with the psychological or spiritual adviser of your choice. You will ignore this, though, because I know from experience with my brother you will just incorporate any non-believers into your fantasy as enemies of the world or some such. While I think shamanic cures are my preference due to the mildness of the treatment, there is no denying the strides that have been made in modern mental health. My brother eventually sought help after causing his loved ones much pain and he found his way out of the personal hell he had engineered for himself.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#2792557 - 06/14/04 12:46 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Of course not all of the people hearing things are of sound body/mind. That's why you didn't see me post that they should be let out. I will have some of them re-evaluated.
I put this publicly to demystify the wonderful realms beyond this 3-dimensional reality. As someone asked earlier, "What can we do?" here is your first lesson of "what not to do" because they are both important: upon seeing the Draconians (the Lizards) when in deep visions in hyperspace - do not become hostile and try your best to just calm down and radiate love. We can have a wonderful information exchange and eventually more trades between them.
Many have reported that they give us a set amount of time to leave their planet when some of us get too "out there" and I admonish humans on Earth to do the same thing. Many of you won't be seeing them usually (unless you're eyes are trained to attune to the Imaginal Realm) but I ask that we extend them the same courtesy of giving them time to gather themselves and leave back for their home if they wander here.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2792588 - 06/14/04 12:58 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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You will ignore this, though, because I know from experience with my brother you will just incorporate any non-believers into your fantasy as enemies of the world or some such
I can't see any of you as my enemies here on Earth. You are my brothers and sisters. In light of evidence provided by members of the US gov't about aliens touching down on Earth and many Shaman's personal confrontations, how can I not see you as my brothers and sisters.
p.s. Seek a new master because your 10 years of shamanism led you no where. There are Buddhist too who meditate for 20 years and never bring the lessons off the meditation pillow. This stuff isn't from movies. I've lived and breathed Taoism and Buddhism for years and come from schools of thought where don't need a fuckin' brew to see into Hyperspace. So, this is not your college buddy or brother who's losing it in this fucked-up poisoned western society. My body and mind are so clean from acupuncture and meditation that your momma would wanna lick my ass.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2792634 - 06/14/04 01:18 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Oh I get it!!! This was a joke!!! Great one!! Silly me.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2792692 - 06/14/04 01:45 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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So..... what is this thread actually about? 
 
Peace. 
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2792786 - 06/14/04 02:23 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I've got two questions: First, about the Draconian meat-pot interplanetary trade-proposal with the Draconian... Me, I'm a vegetarian, and I likes me pot. You're proposing taking Earth's pot, which has a demand already FAR exceeding current supply, and trading it for MEAT? Maybe it's just me, but I really don't see the benifits of this deal. How about growing veggies in the vast tracts of land that get used to produce a relatively small amount of beef as a way of feeding everybody? Then you'd have UNICEF on your side, too.
Secondly, about the AIDS/Cancer curing (infra?)sonic device... You're explanation seems sensical when applied to the screwed-up way you Americans have your health system set up, but hospitals aren't big business everywhere in the world, pal. It seems to me that this device would save the Canadian government huge amounts of money that get spent on treatments for cancer and other diseases that this device can miracle away. Why isn't there one at the hospital down the street then? I guess one could argue if it's getting suppressed in the U.S. where it was developped then it might not necessarily make it's way up here, but if you can order them online then that explaination kind of falls apart. Unless they don't do shipping outside the U.S.?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Panoramix]
#2792839 - 06/14/04 02:50 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Stop using logic! WTF are you thinking?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
#2793108 - 06/14/04 04:42 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I GET IT! this is one big lesson on toleration and patience!
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: CleverName]
#2793266 - 06/14/04 05:46 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yes, I purposefully worded that "some" of the tricomes would be traded as an experimental trade. By no means would I trade all of it because, like I said, we'll need high quality hemp and marijuana for their potent resources they provide here on Earth. Weed can really help this planet not perish once we stop these fools from relying and lobbying on fossil fuels. Of course the main benefits being food and automotive oils-- whatever, paper, clothes...the list goes on.
Again, I will taste the first meat and, pending a scientific analysis in orbit, we'll give the ok to bring any meats down after our own secondary sterilization process.
Pls know I originally turned fown the first offer for trading meats - with phrases like "come again?" and "umm, try again later when you have something not alarming to my people - we feel nervous about bringing back small rocks from Mars".
But, Jesus & other peaceful gods said it was ok - and would make up for the fact that all the cow fields would eventually be used as fields to cultivate hemp or marijuana (in the US at least). The farmers will receive a raise who cultivate hemp & marijuana because of the budget cuts in both military spending and NIDA.
Just to give an idea of how much I was thinking about starting for trade was something as small as 10,000 kilograms of trichomes for whatever is decided to be the equal valued quantity of meat. I told them that we're going to need to build a couple more orbital space planes and maybe a few replicas of Space Plane One. I'll get into what Space Plane One is later but it's better than anything NASA has produced to get us into and out of this atmosphere.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
#2794173 - 06/15/04 06:22 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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"(I am entirely open to the idea that I'm delusional - so please keep this in mind.)" - Spacedragon
As actor Joe Boyle said in the movie 'The Dream Team ' - "Stay out of my psychosis!"
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I partly said about being delusional so the US gov't would never really have a basis for killing me for treason (plus not everything the Gods say is the truth & putting things down in words can never fully explain reality as Lao Tze lamented). Lastly, I didn't want to scare people too much, but just plant the seed that the nature of reality is much bigger than our brains can really imagine with this vast inter-connection of systems, universes and dimensions (much larger than what even Jesus had a grasp on). I'll tell you one thing he said that had some truth "If heaven were in the sky the birds would get there first and if heaven were in the sea the fish would get there first". You ARE the ultimate judge and the accused so there's no pearly gates to be judged at - but, that doesn't mean you'll ever get to heaven by just not murdering & going to church on sundays. As I quoted from some ancient enlightened spiritual men - this is the only thing you'll need to know "Give all profit and gain to others. Take all loss and defeat on yourself. Whether you like it or not, you'll have to do this to enter a heaven realm." You can find it explained more fully in the Tibetan Book of Living and Dying.
I hadn't even gone into the fact that the gov't was watching me for a while (I often withdrew over $300 from the ATM all the time for weed and whatever - and that is automatically reported to the authorities in this country. They were watching me a little too close for my taste. There is a new type of monitoring they have called "brainwave technology" where the impulses of your thoughts can be transmitted & turned into audio waves (i.e. my thoughts can be heard in their FBI building.) It's a disgusting invasion of privacy that only the US gov't would think of. How did they do it? They sent an alien into my home to implant this device. Please keep in mind as dumb as the government seems some times (really dumb with that fact that many will burn in hell for harming their own people so much) their technology is greater than most of us imagine.
Anyway, I never mentioned that because of what many of you are thinking right now - dude, it's another "conspiracy guy" who's like flippin' out & paranoid man.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2795507 - 06/15/04 01:54 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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The alien was one of "the grey" which I said were the little greenish dudes. In the John Lear report you'll find a more in-depth desciption of them but 2 interesting things: (1) they've harnessed photosynthesis for their bodies (they actually can get energy from the sun unlike humans with their skin). (2) they have a partition of bone in the middle of their large heads which separates what looks like 2 brains.
The US gov't captured a couple a dead ones from some downed crafts and one that was still alive. Who knows if they bred them to help with their agendas.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2795533 - 06/15/04 02:06 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Do you think there will be turmoil with this year's election? If so, details?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2795844 - 06/15/04 03:49 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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The US gov't captured a couple a dead ones from some downed crafts
Yup, those spacecraft can travel trillions of miles through heavy radiation, meteorites and other galactic dangers, but fall apart when they run into a cloud.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2796105 - 06/15/04 05:39 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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some questions:
why would the govt be doing all this?
what is their ultimate plot?
why would they care about what you do or you?
how far down the chain does this go?
why is everyone out to get you?
why do you care?
i have some friends in the govt, judges, lawyers, senators, diplomats, and professors, but i dont see any conspiracy. i have family involved with some of this stuff.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: CleverName]
#2796139 - 06/15/04 05:54 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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You guys ain't figured it out yet? Spacedragon is simply a troll. Nothing more.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#2796161 - 06/15/04 06:05 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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*GASP* No! 
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
#2796198 - 06/15/04 06:19 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, I admit he had me at first, then I thought maybe he was disturbed, but hey I'm a newbie. If you look to the left of my post it says so and that proves it.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#2796795 - 06/15/04 08:53 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Brainwave technology is not really any more sophisticated than what we have in our laptops these days. But, getting the technology into the head of someone is the tricky part. Abductions are not really anything new and the Grey just had to put the nanotechnology quickly in me and get out of there - maybe even through shooting it into me after opening the window.
Say that troll thing again staring down the cannon of my ion ray gun you prick. Hah. Who cares anymore what you guys think. I'm trying to communicate with the people who have witnessed the Draconians and other entities and can help this world. You want Jesus back then he'll come to you - just don't fuck it up again you monkey-like morons. Anyway, these Ion ray guns from futurehorizons.net are cool and yes they do send the shit like the Rife Machine. You fuckin' punks are so busy looking for the highest high and not even paying attention to the people suffering in the world around you. I still will send the AIDS/Cancer/STD cure machine to the Shroomery owners when I feel like spending the $700 dollars and not on diapers.
The funniest thing Swami ever said wasn't actually in this thread. It was when he was so sad I was stealing his lame thunder he thought he had from 7,000 posts & then went and started a thread like this "religion isn't about aliens and stuff boo hoo - that wasn't in the spiritual books I read" LOL you fuckin' fool.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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hahahahahhaa, your so lame...ridiculously lame!
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2796952 - 06/15/04 09:19 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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For the record, I never did feel comfortable about the trade idea of meats. I actually had to try to stop myself from laughing when the Draconian offered it because it sounded so absurd. I was like "meats?" C'mon. Anyway, their motives turned out to be sinister and they felt they could harm us by poisoning us. (Similar to how former President Andrew Jackson gave smallpox to Native Americans when offering them blankets).
Today when the negotiating went on it became clear that they had an ominous intent about their side of the trade. They further went on to suggest that the 2 other planets I liberated from the Elohim were to be there's for food (or else they would invade). Of course the idea of them hunting and killing humans on the worlds that are now part of my empire did not sit well but I had a bad feeling that they might then want a war (which they did -- or at least were planning to if I didn't give up the planets). Of course I didn't give up the planets of our cousins. The Draconians have about the same belligerence and warlike nature as Warf from Star Stek (whatever they were - klingons right?)
Finally, it dawned on me that these lizard beings, although they were technologically superior, have nothing on us in terms of manipulating energy through the 4th dimension. If you just believe it, you can be a massively destructive power through hyperspace or a source of great healing. Anyway, Neptune is pretty damaged and they're set back to where they won't be a bother. As I am not a tyrant and show mercy, I didn't completely wipe them out but just enough so there will be no threat of invasion anymore. Without their machines now that were allowing them to travel through hyperspace and their technology that was further along than ours in terms of nuclear destruction - now they're just like anthropomorphic dinosaurs looking stupid on their planet. Someday, if we can educate them enough in the ways of our planet's religions they might be cool to hang out with. I'm not happy with the way they were threatening us and had to destroy them with some help of other beings in the Imaginal Realm. I still pray for the souls of the dead but this is another triumph for us.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2797127 - 06/15/04 09:54 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you are continuing a thread just to rack up hits then you miss the point of this forum entirely.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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I'm glad you had a good trip. 
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: RuNE]
#2797572 - 06/15/04 11:35 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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As if you didn't attribute Neptune's orbital excentricities to the result of your conflict with the Draconians in some 4th-dimensional timeless-moment-y primordial formative way, being as Satan as an Archon is fairly time-spanning. Actually, I guess you weren't mentioned in the Old Testament, so... I think trying to figure out a chronolgy to these sorts of events would be as fun as herding cats. 
But seriously, if you can arrange it so that Stephen Harper doesn't win the upcoming federal election in Canada, I'd say you'd have my vote when it comes time to elect you Supreme Ruler of Earth and Associated Empiral Colonies (Earths#2&3). And if you do it in some manner that demonstrates that you,  arrange it so that the NDP forms a minority government, I'll even do a little ceremonial dandelion-root tea midnight libation thingie for ya! Considering that I feel that organized ritual is mutual self-delusion and oftentimes downright silly, that's gotta count for something.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2798170 - 06/16/04 06:02 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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there's one thing i have to know.
do you, satan, have a day job?
pls respond as i think it's important to the coherence of your story. do you sit around all day bartering and kicking intergalactic ass in the higher dimensions or do you put in 8 hours at the office first?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2798276 - 06/16/04 06:56 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Whoa, the Draconians can't manipulate 4th dimensional imaginative space? Stupid lizards... Now, I'm not straight-out knocking the meat-trade. It doesn't appeal to me, but I'm sure there are lots of people who'd jump at the opportunity for another other other white(ish?) meat.
Plus, it would mean a bit of exporting a karmically damaging industry offworld (animal slaughter, even with ceremony to 'pay respects to the animal' can have negative impacts). The Draconians, being preturnaturally stunted beings in the mindful/creative sense, can take this karma debt off Earth's hands, allowing for a general overall increase in humanities potential whositswhatsits! I still have reservations, but I'm just being stubborn and will likely come around eventually.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2798530 - 06/16/04 08:57 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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You didn't answer my question.
Give us something solid so we think you are more than simply delusional. All of your stuff so far is based off sci fi and paranormal/conspiracy web sites.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Panoramix]
#2798876 - 06/16/04 10:49 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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The knowledge & lessons of truth I exude are pretty concrete. You can't weave something like this together without years of training with 36th-generation Taoist monks, years of meditation & the deep love for several women. The bottom line is, I've lived a full life and now that I know when I shall die I'm going full-steam to end this tyrannical ruling of the US gov't.
You'll see more "magic" in the future if that's what it takes for you guys to believe. Others that say I'm "all over the place" from different religions and fantasy themes I ask you to think of a satellite's picture of the earth from space (you don't see man-made borders or really anything but a unified whole). It's the same with me. My openess to many cultures and ways of life had caused me to open up to a vast amount of wisdom and lessons from all over the globe (and arguably my desire for being a God again or have power has driven me to gain massive knowledge). Buddhas come back to the 3rd dimension all the time to help out. They help out more than I do, of course, but I have a chance to help and be absolved of some karma by being put in this perilous world leader position - almost as a joke to see "hey, let's see what Satan does - because we'll kill him so quickly and send him to hell if he does anything but kick these pathetic humans back into gear". Although you normally think of "enlightened ones" a.k.a. Buddhas as good and completely holy - there have been many masters of the Tao who were not so nice. For instance, Pai Mei, the leader of the White Lotus clan and temple in ancient China (you may have seen him in Kill Bill 2 recently) Well, how's this for crossing borders - Pai Mei was also an incarnation of me Satan - a wrathful buddha.
Yes, my investments have enabled me to chill at home & kick alien space ass all day. I really only want us to stop fighting and form alliances now (when we can) because there's entities lurking out there that would consider us bugs to stomp on. I mean, c'mon, there are beings that can eat planets like a snack and luckily they just haven't turned towards us. Our nukes need to be pointed towards meteors and possibly the Grey someday. Fighting ourselves is the most stupid thing - we're like a collective and what affects one of us affects the whole. The Gods have shown this to me in full color and shown how I'll waste more time burning in a hell realm unless I rise to this call and change. Love is truly boundless and can be the source of the most power (also it feels much better than aeons in hell realms inflicting suffering).
I haven't even touched on the idea that, just like the Dalai Lama is an emanation of the God Avalokiteshvara & the Buddha Sogyal Rinpoche is an avatar of another God (I think it's Padmasambhava) I'm just an emanation of the larger Wrathful God Satan. But, as you can see, I'm turning around (maybe I've reached a pinnacle of evil and am bored with it or maybe I can't stand inflicting the suffering anymore - who knows). Also, we all seem to have twin souls somewhere in this vast system and maybe it's only when we still ourselves enough will we ever meet that twin and finally meet like matter and anti-matter to finally stop reincarnatiing and suffering (what the Chinese call Wu-Wei) or absolute unity and what the Tibetans call the rainbow body where you just "merge back into the dualistic universe from which you came".
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2798990 - 06/16/04 11:21 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Umm. Well, 'reincarnating and suffering' and attempts to enlighten one's way out of reality aren't actually what taoism's about, so much. While buddhism would have you transcend the world of dust, taoism would advise you to become one with the swirling dusts. It's like the vingear -tasters story... Three sages representing Taoism, Buddhism and Confucism are sitting around tasting vinegar from this big jug. Unspecified-Buddha says "This is bitter!" with a look of pain and discomfort. Confucius says "This is sour" matter-of-factly. Lao Tse says "This is sweet" with a quiet smile.
And Wu Wei generally gets atrributed more as The Uncarved Block, Wood in Thickets, action through inaction-y, do nothing and there is nothing that isn't done type of concept, to my experience. But then, you are the one who knows these things best in all the world, as you've been kind enough to point out...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2799091 - 06/16/04 11:45 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hhhm.... Satan, eh? Lucifer, posting on a message board, ranting and raving like this? I'm sure he would be involved with more important matters than trying to prove his story to a bunch of people on the internet... my suggestion to you would be to drink some more cough syrup.
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why is everyone cutting dragon down?
whats it to you?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: BleaK]
#2799150 - 06/16/04 12:05 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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No seriously, I think it's nifty stuff, it's thought-provoking and consistently good reading. I'm just trying to get him to elaborate some of his ideas, being as he seems to have quite a wealth of the them and I'm not getting a goodly number worked out already, and with deital contact on a regular basis it's only going to get more interesting. I'm just trying to keep this thread bumped, for the most part.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2799215 - 06/16/04 12:16 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I have yet so see space-dragon answer a question in a manner that satisfies my curiosity..
Space dragon, when is the revolution happening? Are you in power yet? how can we help? can we see some proof of your co-operation with the FBI and the US Government? Maybe its time to put that marijuana legalisation thing you mentioned into action, then we'd all see some outward manifestation of the governments gratitude for your valiant actions (banishing the greys and the elohim, for example).
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: BleaK]
#2799221 - 06/16/04 12:17 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Because he is a troll fishing for hits...damn I just gave him one...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2800946 - 06/16/04 10:03 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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"I have a chance to help and be absolved of some karma by being put in this perilous world leader position - almost as a joke to see "hey, let's see what Satan does - because we'll kill him so quickly and send him to hell if he does anything but kick these pathetic humans back into gear"."
yes, everyones out to get out. you are the center of the universe. your paranoia knows no limits, does it?
"Our nukes need to be pointed towards....possibly the Grey someday. Fighting ourselves is the most stupid thing - we're like a collective and what affects one of us affects the whole......Love is truly boundless and can be the source of the most power (also it feels much better than aeons in hell realms inflicting suffering)."
lets nuke the greys because we're all one, right?
we'll nuke the greys because "love is truley boundless...", right?
"what effects one of us effects the whole"---but the greys do nt count. fuck them, they are the scapegoat of your paraniod dreams.
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 Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: BleaK]
#2801589 - 06/17/04 06:00 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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...And to piggy-back on Bleak's question...has anyone seen the movie 'A Beautiful Mind' lately? Has anyone seen it at all? I'm interjecting this question to illustrate by example what is being witnessed on this thread. I'd like to request some increased compassionate detachment by the responders here.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Panoramix]
#2803781 - 06/17/04 08:52 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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That's the funny thing - I'm also learning as we go. Sorry to scare you but I was never actually Satan. I am an "emanation" or a creation of Satan. For anyone clarivoyant enough to see Satan right now , he is actually "shackled" by magical energy and is being held in a sort of holding pattern by the Gods. He was defeated by Vajrasattva and I am but one incarnation of him - - he produced an Angel & is forced to use his energy and deep wisdom (albeit evil) for good.
He seems to have reached the pinnacle of power for evil and kept us all believing that Jehovah was the only other God -- and look how Christianity (and sometimes Judaism) have ruined our planet -- Bush Jr. still thinks he was appointed by Jesus to be president. Jesus says that that is absolutely not true. The monotheists are the ones that are deluded, not us "eccentric shaman."
It's hard to even begin to explain this partial or occluded reality we're part of (occluded meaning part of a larger whole.) The bottom line is - I'm not receiving messages or instructions from Satan - but have been sort of initiated into a "club" of Peaceful Deities. Fuck the Wrathful Deities - maybe we can use them if there's ever an interstellar war but love is boundless & will always prevail. I'm like a liberated prisoner from a jail who's so happy to be out and will never look back at the jail house w/all it's madness.
The nature of some human "emanations" is similar to if I were to grow a garden or have a little pet dog or cat - I would obtain the DNA coding (a fancy word for animal) and offer my own resources and energies i.e. food, light (for plants), water etc.. Well, the Gods can sort of spit out humans as emanations from their own energy and create them to do certain things.
In my case I was able to align with a God who can cleanse karma very well (Buddha Vajrasattva) and get this world alive and kicking again after severe poisoning from petrochemicals, pesticides, mercury & formaldahyde in vaccinations ...you name it -- it's pretty fucked up - there are still some 3rd world countries who use freon & diesel fuel daily (wait 'til you see the movie The Day After Tomarrow - you won't want to contribute to global warming at all any more).
People were trying to pass a law earlier in this century to ban the word "evolution" from textbooks - it's time for the church/state machine in the US to be dicarded for a U.S.Government2.0 - time to reboot.
BTW - listen to master Shroomism. He knows a lot about the nature of the extra-dimensional forces I'm talking about & can explain it better than me. He is aligned with very powerful Gods & can help lead us through the energetic changes the Earth will experience between now and the year 2012.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2803960 - 06/17/04 09:49 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I love you guys & it's time to take a quick break from the boards. When you don't hear from me it won't mean that I'm dead or the U.S. gov't got to me. Like I said - they've been monitoring me & understand that I created and took the position as World Leader because I'm a true demi-god. Trying to somehow take the world like Hitler, Saddam or Bush by conquering it will never work. But, standing below the people and in service to the people will make them all flow to you like rivers to the sea.
Yes, they are considering the changes I asked for concerning the War on Drugs but, with a bureacracy, things take time - many parent are so convinced that drugs are the enemy from all the propaganda.
I come to these boards to plant the seeds for change & for us to win in a peaceful manner -- plus, you're listeners who are wise enough and open enough to hear such truths. I'll eventually be on the major TV stations and CNN talking about Gods and Extra-Terrestrials -- but some people are truly not ready for such a shift in their view of the natue of reality in such a potent & powerful way as I displayed it to you.
I was gonna end it on that last post about matter & anti-matter meeting to finally end the cycle of suffering (it seems to be the ultimate union of science and religious concepts. That statment about the twin souls and the stilling of oneself through meditation to become one with the other soul or entity of anti-matter is an expression of the profound unity of science & religion that we humans are so good at.
I just can't peel myself away from these boards LOL. I'm sure there are entities that can do stuff like that 47th level biomancer explanation. I wanted to post this last time to let you know about the status of the War on Drugs. Many U.S. research chemicals are actually very good evolutionary catalysts plus DXM is a winner in my book. However, I know many of you want shrooms and weed aplenty (like me). Like I was saying, many parents in the U.S. will be upset if legalization happens very quickly because they've been programmed to hate drug users.
The U.S. gov't is realizing their losing the War they created on their own civilians (because we're now switching to alternative drugs and cultivating in undetectable ways) but it's just too profitable for them to just give it up. They seize so much shit that's barely in connection with a crime and sell it cheaply in those stupid gov't auctions. As I'm writing this I'm getting pretty pissed actually and want to fight back with violence but that's against the true way of triumph: Terrorists like Bush and Osama look for a path TO peace - but the Path IS peace.
I'll be back to the forums after my trip to marry a second girl. The Gods tell me I'll have many wives (and I'm not complaining).
I put my ideas out on THESE boards (and not CNN) because you are the ones who can truly be receptive to these teachings. Also, it's not my style to strap a bomb to my chest or hijack a television studio. A state of panic may ensue if I brought all this info about aliens and gods at one time.
Maybe you can help me as priests for this cause (no koolaid like the cults & NOT as priests to worship ME) -- for I am just a Bodhisattva serving greater powers, but we need to make the final stand to ask the US gov't to heed these demands (I feel the demands were pretty balanced ~I only spelled phenethylamines wrong~ and the demands would help for both sides -- maybe some people would actually see the U.S. gov't as "cool" for a change if they legalized a few safe plants & chemicals that we talked about. Fuck Heroin and Cocaine you hungry ghosts (try some Ibogaine and your neurotransmitter junctions won't crave them for over a month) So much good hash and shrooms will be around the US that you won't even care for that crap. The U.S. Gov't is like the biggest pusher of heroin and cocain anyway so you don't want to empower them any more.
So, forget the idea of a coup de tat -- my wife tells me there's always a power vacuum that follows (we met at Brown University and she majored in International Relations so I tend to listen to her about that subject). It's time for a spiritual revolution. We've already outgrown those cogs in the machine. Just keep doing what you're doing and cultivating whatever (even if it's cultivating wisdom).
I'll handle the U.S. goverment some more later by empowering the U.N. & even knocking down the White House door if I have to with my Shamanic power of fire. Many shamen gain mastery over certain elements - mine seems to be that of fire.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2803962 - 06/17/04 09:51 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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On to marrying the second of my wives. We picked out a nice island to get married and I'll be gone for just a little while from the boards. I'll always be with you and can still issue power to slay aliens, gov'ts officials and talk to Shroomers whenever you guys need me - distance is not an issue in the Imaginal realm (a.k.a Time-Dimension/ 4th dimension / Spirit World / Hyperspace). The Gods tell me I'll have 7 wives and 40 children ~ouch~ LOL.
Remember, your karma can take you to a Hell if you're not careful during your afterlife ~ with wisdom comes responsibilty. It can be tempting to try to wield magic and mind-control when you open the faculties of your mind. But, with that abuse of power will come many horrors in the afterlife if you use it for dubious purposes instead of good.
Just rememeber this and you'll be God and Goddesses sooner than you think:
Know knowledge, shun knowledge
Know religion , shun religion
Know politics , shun politics
Know magic , shun magic
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2804021 - 06/17/04 10:11 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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While saying goodbye to the Dextroverse someone asked this:
sometimes i can hear other peoples thoughts, like when im on shrooms, and sometimes sober even. does this mean i am more in tune with the 4th dimention? i have heard many times of the uncomming human kind evolution and although your ideas are much more scattered and diverse then i personally have ever had, i see much wisdom and truth in your words. what is your plan of action to save the world? can i help?
Yes, you can definitly help just by being open-minded like you've displayed right there. We all have the capabilities to receive messages from Peaceful Gods. Mushrooms oftentimes open up peoples' faculties to be receptive to ESP and other extra-dimensional intelligences.
As I was warning in the earlier posts - try to know who you are talking to and not get aligned with en evil God posing as good (maybe read some books from the Tibetan traditions of unbroken Buddhist lineages concerning evoking the Peaceful Deities). Sometimes taking "heroic/stupid" doses of shrooms or DMX can throw you into their realm and leave you vulnerable to possession or even harm - In the Imaginal realm I believe this sums it up "Believe you can, believe you can't - either way you're right" Henry Ford said that. It's kind of the same with dreams - which, arguably in your deepest dreams you're in Spirit World anyway
Many people are now finding that Gods don't inhabit the mushroom plant. By that rationale, they would have to inhabit the chemicals 2C-B and LSD because people are often encountering God-like entities (or sometimes aliens) during those trips.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2804298 - 06/17/04 11:35 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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What heaven is coming to earth? Is that what this thread is about? Or did i miss something?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Zero7a1]
#2804464 - 06/18/04 12:56 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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It seems we've found a convergence of ancient eastern prophecies & some modern day mystics who foresee that "Heaven" realms will be upon us on Earth -- when our energy level jumps to the 4th and 5th dimensions (the Earth will pass through a belt of photon energy helping the barrier between the 4th and 3rd dimension weaken). The people that do not try to raise their energy level by purifying and evolving will perish & the rest of us will take a huge leap in evolution to beings of light. It's been referred to as the Kingdom of Shambala. The peaceful Gods have defeated Satan (one of the most powerful evil Gods) and although there are other great forces of evil, the peaceful Gods will rule the Earth when all the Gods are upon us.
We need to all work together as a global community & stop the useless fighting over fossil fuels to open the floodgates to free energy and superior, renewable technologies. Then we can better serve the Gods and make sure Earth prevails and no more clandestine deals with Aliens by evil Gov'ts. There's more to the saga of the power-plays of the Titans and Gods but you should probably start from the beginning of the thread and work your way through.
LOL, I can't help but touch on the previous comment also. Yes, I have a "beautiful mind" but --no-- I'm nothing like Russel Crowe's character. I also wouldn't be so preoccupied & almost let my kid drown like in the movie because my awareness is superior and I'm as agile as a cat (even when I was drunk or high).
It's a state of being that needs to be cultivated. Many of you are catching glimpses of what being like a God or demi-God is all about through entheogens. Try it full-time through deep meditation & compassion for others...You'll like it. It also helps to eat organic foods and drink some tea for the anti-oxidant properties. These are all just ways of saving your body work towards rebalancing (energy loss) later.
You'll find that energy-efficiency is a very important aspect of becoming like Buddha or Jesus and not just a combo of chemicals to ingest. Also semen-retention is very important for having the energy to love all the sentient beings too (but we'll get into that later). Even Casius Clay said "If a man cums [ejaculates] before he fights, he'll get knocked out, but if he has sex and doesn't cum, he'll win". This wisdom has been known for centuries in China and Muhammad Ali knew what he was talking about.
Many doctors these days are not taking into acocunt healing on all four levels: physical, mental , emotional & spiritual. I highly suggest a session of massage or acupuncture if you wanna feel high for long periods of time (try days without side-effects / not hours with side-effects). I don't mean the western allopathic view of health which is just the absence of symptoms - but real vibrant health. Then you can feel like a Buddha all the time. The opiates that can be released from our own bodies (through acupuncture, running, hiking, swimming or walking) are 10x more powerful than heroin or opium.
The OCCASIONAL hallucinogen should never be looked down upon though. I'm just trying to get us prepared for the large evolutionary jump our world will be taking within the next 8 years up until 2012 and beyond. Just the "mental" addiction to chemicals could hold you back from taking that leap to a God or Goddess (when we'll be almost forced to when the photon energy hits this planet). Otherwise, you'll probably just wander around many galaxies like a ghost suffering for a long time & your soul could be possessed & trapped in a hell realm.
Although you'll be without a dense body like we have now - and our soul is seemingly indestructible, great torment can still be experienced and hell realms will still be there to be enslaved in...(but, if somehow you're not possessed or "saved" by the Peaceful Gods, but all of us here are turning into beings of pure light on Earth - you could be stuck to wander around in a sort of wierd purgatory with all your original thought patterns and habits you couldn't let go of from this life (just like ghosts many of you thought didn't exist). Don't worry about ghosts too much though - it's the living that are dangerous.
I don't know, it's all beyond words but there's my stab at it. We have a chance to become Gods & if we just ride the light we'll all probably be fine. Some people on Earth here are bred for evil so much that it's gonna take a lot of work for us to get everyone to make that energy shift with us. Arguably, some of very evil ones will make the shift too - it's not about just being good and pure but being aware and having a high energy vibration like even the Wrathful Deities have.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Why be a "god"? WE are all part of the universe. Why not just be? Isnt that simpler? A lot more "pleasant"?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Zero7a1]
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Why be a "god"? WE are all part of the universe. Why not just be? Isnt that simpler? A lot more "pleasant"?
i think the term god is just to symbolize a "higher" being.... i supose were suposed to evolve into gods...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: BleaK]
#2807165 - 06/18/04 07:45 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yea, it's really just a word we created for a state of existence. Some of us on Earth w/spaceships by the year 2012 can maybe consider moving out of our solar system to not become a being of light (when this photon belt is among us).
LOL, when I was posting last night I realized I just had a couple more things to say before my flight.
Also, pls read the original post again. I made it actually readable this time. Also, explaining that I'm not the entity known as Satan & I'm still mandated to be World Leader - as well as the father of the second coming of Jesus. He is to be my next child born in a few years and I'm not joking. Many asked him to come back down and he'll come to teach us again like many reincarnations like the Dalai Lama have done.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2807287 - 06/18/04 08:28 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I'm excited about this. I should probably get some more parenting classes in before he comes. I have some experience with the four children I have now (including twins). My patience is that of a sage but I still want to make the second coming of Jesus as wonderful as possible for humanity.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2807297 - 06/18/04 08:33 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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You might want to rent "The Omen".
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2807304 - 06/18/04 08:40 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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im sorry if i offended you in any way. i think your crazy or joking, but that doesnt give me the right to be rude or cutting, so im sorry. i hope you find what your looking for and i hope you find peace.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
#2807381 - 06/18/04 09:07 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Nah, none of you really offended me. Sometimes I went off the handle to dispel some illusions. Obviously, I'm not as peaceful as some sages but maybe that's what humans need these days to snap us out of our ignorance.
You & Swami kept coming back so I thank you both. It'll be cool if the messages I'm receiving about Jesus' return are true.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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LOL I've never actually seen the Omen (and I think I fell asleep during Rosemary's Baby). This is entirely different though.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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I'm excited about this. I should probably get some more parenting classes in before he comes. I have some experience with the four children I have now (including twins). My patience is that of a sage but I still want to make the second coming of Jesus as wonderful as possible for humanity.
Actually, as other members here know, I myself am Jesus.  Maybe I should drag the ole' avatar out again... hmm.....
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While you're getting the ole avatar, I will go out in the shed and get the ole hammer and nails.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
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And while you are doing that, I will prepare a few miracles to prove you wrong in your thread.
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Oh yea, finally I, as John the Baptist, can lead all the 19.998 remaining incarnated Jesus to the olympic arena in Jerusalem, where they can battle out their leadership upon the world with miracles, wonders and prophetic speaking. Still not buit ? Hurry !
Of course, I was not only the Baptist, also I was the disciple and the evangelist at the same time. I was the first imanation of the universal god of all lifeforms who sent the spirit upon Jesus. For that reason I also will take the position of the judge. The eleven subjudges will be selected out of the 110.000 reincarnations of the former disciples by proof.
The masses will select the disciplines !
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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My reactions upon reading the post that mentioned the catlike agility. Okay, I think I actually get what you're saying now. Goodness, you don't sound crazy at all, really. In fact, I'd say this thread has been quite the eyeopener...
In 2012 the Earth's going to enter a photon belt that'll act as jumper cables on my Chi, bumping me up to a 4th dimensional level on a permenent basis? So a giant spacelight is going to fry the lot of us, and the options'll be your body sizzles, then your soul fries or else your body sizzles, then spontaeious enlightenment? I mean, I see the sense it what your saying, but I still have one problem with it...
What makes you so sure we're all gonna fry come 2012? (Why do I think I may regret asking this question?) Also, I have trouble with the concept of Evil entities. Maybe I'm just sheltered, but I've never come across anything evil in my life. Some unsettling stuff, some creepy stuff, some bad stuff but nothing that's struck me as being evil.
Anyways, what are some specific steps one can take to ensure 4th dimensional transendence? Should I just try to make sure I'm lost in the flow of the Tao, thinking no-thought when my body dies on 2012? (though I'm not convinced that's gonna happen) Is there more that needs to be done? Though I acknownledge I've only managed to prolong my existance by devouring other organism, I always make sure they're dead first and take similar steps to make my existance as pleasent as possible for those organisms I don't eat. I've done little-to-no real harm to this world, and some positive stuff too. Is this enough? Not that I could ever possibly even imagine a Hell realm of torment and suffering. If I can't conceptualize it, am I safe from it?
Mmm, 2-CB... Thanks for reminding me.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Panoramix]
#2815467 - 06/21/04 08:48 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I love the whole Photon belt thingie. (and to think I used to have trouble with Orion's belt, but I digress). Hmmm, lets see, light travels at about 186,000 mps and has no mass (gravitational attraction) yet somehow stays clumped together.
If we can see this light, then it is obviously here on earth and NOT out in some galactic band. If we can't see the light then - awfuckit...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
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Yeah, until told otherwise I'm assuming this is working on the assumption that in 2012 the sun explodes. That'd provide a good strong lumped bunch of photons, I'd say. The trouble is, ths sun doesn't do that very often and just 'cause it hasn't yet doesn't mean it's about to. Tell you what, I'll still be nice and considerate to people and try to avoid detrimenting this Earth from whence I came and shall return even without the threat of impending doom and/or damnation. Because I'm just plain a nice guy.
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Too bad the government is holding us back. Once we learn to free ourselves more will come out of their shells. Be at peace with the world and look for the way home.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Panoramix]
#2815915 - 06/21/04 11:13 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah, until told otherwise I'm assuming this is working on the assumption that in 2012 the sun explodes. That'd provide a good strong lumped bunch of photons, I'd say. The trouble is, ths sun doesn't do that very often and just 'cause it hasn't yet doesn't mean it's about to. Tell you what, I'll still be nice and considerate to people and try to avoid detrimenting this Earth from whence I came and shall return even without the threat of impending doom and/or damnation. Because I'm just plain a nice guy.
I believe the "theory" states that our solar system (and other celestial bodies) are moving in the Universe and we're going to pass through a celestial band of light which vibrates at extremely high levels. This band of light is supposedly going to excite our consciousness into a dimension of a higher frequency.
If it were true I would have no problem understanding that the scenario was possible...but it lacks readily available evidence. Word of mouth is just not good enough.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: psyka]
#2816552 - 06/22/04 07:23 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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"a celestial band of light which vibrates at extremely high levels"
So could 'really really hot sunjuice' be an appropriate description of it? Or is this just a bunch of photons hanging out in space and derived from no particular point of origin? Seems to me that, being as these photon'd be moving along at quite a good clip (that being what photons are so darned good at) and if they're reaching Earth in 2012 then... wait, hey, since they're light we'd have no scientific way of knowing if they were coming until they were already here! We can only examine light from signals that have already started contacting the Earth. Well, that wraps that up in a neat little package. I'm still not convinced of the existance of this giant spacelight, but you have to admit, the Earth were going to get bathed in hot hot sunjuice in 2012 we'd have no way of knowing beforehand. In any case, any event that makes 4th dimensional awareness a more widespread and permenent thing definately gets my vote.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Panoramix]
#2816643 - 06/22/04 08:18 AM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Seems to me that, being as these photon'd be moving along at quite a good clip (that being what photons are so darned good at) and if they're reaching Earth in 2012 then... wait, hey, since they're light we'd have no scientific way of knowing if they were coming until they were already here! We can only examine light from signals that have already started contacting the Earth.
Nice deduction Pan, but did I not just say this in my last post? (No prize for second place.)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
#2817282 - 06/22/04 12:39 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hah, that's what you think. I'm sporting a lovely 2nd Place ribbon, though. It's nice and blue. Plus I got a ham and a plaque for my second-place contribution.
In all honesty, I didn't really understand that part of your previous post. But yeah, I did basically just repeat you. 
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2817608 - 06/22/04 02:29 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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"It'll be cool if the messages I'm receiving about Jesus' return are true."
I read a rumor somewhere that my lame government (USA) is trying to stabilize the middle east so they can stage exactly that; the return of Jesus Christ.
The problem is, they have to get a foothold in there and make sure everything is perfectly set up for Jesus when he returns - then this "Jesus" will tell people whatever the government would like him to, and their agenda will then be "officially" backed by the Son of God.
What a bunch of cheesey motherfuckers - the creepy thing is that I can't say they wouldn't try something like this; these scumbags....
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2818517 - 06/22/04 06:26 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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It's funny how certain actions sometimes considered disadvantageous can also be seen as good. A quick example is a story of a guy who broke his ankle & wasn't able to go off to a war that he wanted to help with. He stays at the village and when some of the stength comes back to his foot (but not enough to fight) he is able to keep up the farming and help the village not starve.
As I said, the brainwave technology the u.s. gov't implanted in me was the final straw of invasive measures they'll use. What happened which scared them was this: Not ALL the fuckin' thoughts running through my mindstream were my OWN. In other words, the thoughts of the Gods were on tape also when they were talking to me. Also, when I would practice the ancient Tibetan art of Phowa (prayers for the dead) to help ghosts achieve a good afterlife - they could hear those thoughts & communications w/the dead too.
That's how it works guys - so many people look for Gods to appear in front of you and yes, if your Karmic Vision is cleansed enough you will be able to see them. But, you can talk to them and get glimpses of them in your third eye when evoking them. (not just during a heavy trip or a deep meditation in a cave). They don't usually bother with humans so much because their realm is simply too fascinating - but when a world like ours is in so much turmoil and bodhisattvas, avatars, human angels (whatever you wanna call them) call for help they will come to us.
I'd like to give the White House a makeover when we take it over. It's too white. Although I'm white I think the house is too bland & the columns could use some graphics of the American Flag or some thing cool. Also, we'll need to get access to the downed vessels of the aliens (the Grey) they have in their possession to show the rest of the world the concrete evidence of aliens. Finally, we can get the access to their audio tapes of monitoring me & show the rest of the world how my mindstream had many other intelligences flowing through it.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2818601 - 06/22/04 06:54 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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... but when a world like ours is in so much turmoil and bodhisattvas, avatars, human angels (whatever you wanna call them) call for help they will come to us.
My avatar calls for me to help eat him.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2837577 - 06/28/04 07:22 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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"The OCCASIONAL hallucinogen should never be looked down upon though. I'm just trying to get us prepared for the large evolutionary jump our world will be taking within the next 8 years up until 2012 and beyond. Just the "mental" addiction to chemicals could hold you back from taking that leap to a God or Goddess (when we'll be almost forced to when the photon energy hits this planet). Otherwise, you'll probably just wander around many galaxies like a ghost suffering for a long time & your soul could be possessed & trapped in a hell realm."
Too bad I will not leave anyone behind, except for the ignorant who think they are GOD...I AM Jesus Christ and I have been here for 22 yrs...I am a joke...I'm actually Nothing...Nothing will hold you back, including your addictions, only your stupidity in comments such as these will...But that's okay because GOD forgives you...thanks for overpopulating the earth with your 4 loser children, wear a rubber, I assure you that your next child will be another mindless zombie...and as for when your the new world leader, I hold within me a prophecy that GOD will urinate on your shoes and smile...
until that prophecy is forfilled , peace... I AM...
"Obviously, I'm not as peaceful as some sages but maybe that's what humans need these days to snap us out of our ignorance."
P.S. your a sissy!!!
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Eilya555]
#2839570 - 06/29/04 10:22 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Sorry JC, i do agreee with you on most points but can you please drop the "sissy" stuff.
No flaming please.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2841601 - 06/29/04 09:05 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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"I'd like to give the White House a makeover when we take it over. It's too white. Although I'm white, I think the house is too bland & the columns could use some graphics of the american flag or some thing cool."
It's so darn white 'cause some of us lot came down there and burned it for you. The moral is don't annoy acadians. It's a shame they went with such a shitte colour scheme, but I guess it was just part of that whole neo-classical romanesque thing they were going for with their republic.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Panoramix]
#2842767 - 06/30/04 05:21 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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It's a shame they went with such a shitte colour scheme...
Its the same colours as Canada, except Canada couldn't even afford blue.
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I think the colour scheme of the White House (i.e. white) was what was being referred to, rather then the red white and blue. I mean, redwhite'n'blue's the same as france and russia and england and etc... I guess they only had marble on hand to build with? I mean, the city hall back in Kingston (which did in fact serve as the centre of the Canadian government for a while in the 1800s) only had a somewhat plain light grey limestone to be built with, but the architects at least spiced the stuff up with some copper on the dome and a nice weathervane on the top and stuff.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2853531 - 07/03/04 06:15 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Spacedragon, please continue your report. As I said before, in another posting, I like to see the upcoming of prophets in the end of days
I went through a similar state of mind by myself, also reported somwhere else, and I think some other shroomates do know the feeling of what you report. I think it's a primarily LSD-induced state, which can last very long (I had also muscaria, psilocybin, thc on that 'party' ). As I experienced it, for me it was not such a problem, then for my friends or relatives. It lastes over 1 1/2 Years and I only 'came back', because communication got worse and worse, so I decided to come back, exactly as how I decided before to get this state of mind.
What I will say is, 98 % of the population will see this state of mind as schizophrenic or other personal psychological disordered state, not as a kind of enlightened stuff. Even if it's ok for you. You have to decide with whom you will communicte further and if it's worth this. The way back, is as hard as the way into, but then you will always have an internal treasure from which you can tell in a moderate way.
Just wanted to share.
And please forget about the photon-belt crap. Here in Germany, this stuff should had been over before the year 2000, including all updates and so. Now, nobody talks about it, even if it's fascinating.
I don't want to negate a kind of psychological change that has to come in conclusion with some kind of 'new age', which will come after some sort of clearification of the earth, like some indian-shamanss preach, but whether there's a 'photon-belt' comming upon us, I regret, I think, thats a hoax.
The problems, why the changes have to come, are all selfmade and with such hoaxes, you will loose the real problems out of sight.
But all in all, keep the good traveling up ! And don't let you catch by the big paranoia ! Take it to a chellenge where 'they' have to show up ! And then, don't forget the wittnesses
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: BlueCoyote]
#2853993 - 07/03/04 11:49 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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A) First off, you people who thought yourselfs to be so "clever" as to make fun of spacedragon...without posting ANYTHING constructive....you are the same people who have been supporting ignorance, suffering, and pain on this planet. Shame on you for your own stupidity! I hold no grudges, but its the people who think they have it all figured out (unlike spacedragon who claimed he might even be crazy) that are ruining our world. (Keep in mind i'm not speaking of swami, fireworks, or anyone else who was just trying to find some logic or fact from this guy)
B) Much of what this guy says is correct. I can't verify it all, but I will stand up for him because if one doesn't speak for Truth, and live for Truth what is ones purpose?
Some things I can verify:
1) The medical establishment of america IS a joke....there IS a cure for AIDS....and cancer as well. Actually, all diseases can be healed as of know, AS LONG AS THEY ARE TREATED BEFORE A CERTAIN POINT. Some methods are still undiscovered (thus, there is no cure) but the cure DOES exist....its just not in our hands.
2) Heaven on earth WILL be a reality soon, and it will begin being constructed within this lifetime. This is NOT a joke.
3) The "gods" he speaks of do exist. I can't verify the specific personalities he speaks of (Yahweh, Jehovah, satan, etc) but there are "Gods" who have interfered with human minds/affairs since human history.
4) Humans didnt evolve naturally on this planet. Yes...we were seeded.
5) Tap water IS bad for you. I've done my research, and if flouride and chlorine arent enough for you, there are also other contaminates in most public water systems.
C) I dont believe much of what he's said (primarily because its not MY experience, its his) but are you guys foolish enough to believe that what he is claiming is anyless important or realistic than what we've been told for hundreds of years is solid fact and provable, only to ever decade learn that what we learned as children was flawed?
Shroomism, you havent responded in here, and posted what you can.
I think maybe you should just open up, and be honest.....there are many people here who will receive you.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: supermarket]
#2854476 - 07/03/04 03:40 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Why do you adress this to me ?
Please, don't loose youre humor on the way to enlightement...
I understand your enthusiasm, that's why I 'bumped'.
And please, don't misundestand me. Primarely I respect such 'states' until proven wrong, and I (as I think other critics as well) just wanted to relativy (?) some 'absolutism'.
These barriers have to be crossed when 'heaven comes to earth' until it is obvious for everyone. Until now, the lack of prooves concernes most humans.
So, peace, love, trust and understanding
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#2855926 - 07/04/04 08:25 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Wow, I just found this post. Good stuff. Time to ask questions. (If I am redundant, just ignore me, I'll figure it out as I read through the rest of this post...)
Many good and demonic forces have met a resolution through me ?ADAM- ?A man, anchored in a moment in time?
Are you referring to the concept of Adam Kadmon, or is your name literally Adam? Do you know anything about the prophesized "second Adam"?
It's hard to believe but since his defeat - Satan is trying to change.
I have come to this conclusion as well, through personal experience.
Satan was bested by the powerful God Vajrasattva & created me to take a human form in the afterlife to be the father of the second coming of Jesus Christ.
So when will he be born? Or is he already?
It is mandated by Heaven that I will be World Leader
There was never meant to be only one, friend.
It just got crazy here on Earth - we were getting harvested by evil aliens making deals with the US gov?t. It turned out that these aliens began taking 100-fold the amount of humans for ?research? (which is a euphemism for horrible mutilations & stealing every drop of blood from our carcasses for an inter-stellar space trade).
Does this space trade involve a reptilian race of beings?
We're arguably more fragmented in our thinking & more scatterbrained from this information age's impact on our senses lately
Yeah, that's Aquarius for ya...
I've risen to the calling to tell the world that monotheism is a fallacy.
Yeah, uh... most of us here know that.
To my girlfriend I was like - I think I may be freakin' going crazy. I tested every theory and kept evoking Peaceful Gods like Padmasambhava and Jesus & pleaded - "are they messing with me? Am I really to be World Leader? I'll do everything it takes to topple this piece of shit gov't with a revolution - but I hate being toyed with . All I would hear in return is "Yes, it's true Adam".
Hey man, I know how that is.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2855983 - 07/04/04 09:11 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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The terrible events that you may be getting glimpses of are (1) a tidal wave that may cleanse the East Coast in several years
Hey I saw this during a shroom trip when I was 16.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Adamist]
#2858949 - 07/05/04 12:45 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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re adamist
you've seen the reptilians too? where does this strange vision/'communication' come from? *perplexed*
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: supermarket]
#2859003 - 07/05/04 01:05 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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4) Humans didnt evolve naturally on this planet. Yes...we were seeded.
5) Tap water IS bad for you. I've done my research...
Do you have any "research" on item 4) ?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Adamist]
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The terrible events that you may be getting glimpses of are (1) a tidal wave that may cleanse the East Coast in several years
Hey I saw this during a shroom trip when I was 16.
Hey, you should move to Hollywood to be a screenwriter...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2859258 - 07/05/04 02:58 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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i'm on your side adam
please return soon
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2860128 - 07/05/04 09:37 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've always believed that Heaven is within. Like Jesus said, heaven will not come at any particular time or place, instead it is all around us all the time, but people don't see it.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: zorbman]
#2860163 - 07/05/04 09:55 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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nope, no evidence what-so-ever.
The way I figure, if anyone of today's anthropologists still can't find the "missing evolutionary link", then it *COULD* be a possibility that the humans didn't naturally evolve from the commonly believed primates we've been said to have our origins in.
Then, I used that basis to formulate another *assumption*. If humans appear to be the only beings to naturally evolve to this level of intelligence/awareness on our planet , perphaps that further supports that humans didn't "naturally" evolve on this planet.
Perphaps other beings just sped up our evolution....or perphaps we are REALLY advanced primate from another planet....that was already evolved to human.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: zorbman]
#2860535 - 07/06/04 12:24 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I've always believed that Heaven is within. Like Jesus said, heaven will not come at any particular time or place, instead it is all around us all the time, but people don't see it.
i agree.
i might say we have prospective heaven, as to say we have everything we need. provided that is we arent sinfull.. like glutonous(sp?)...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2861227 - 07/06/04 10:01 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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i'm confused about something an it has been brought up.You state you are the incarnation of satan.then
you state you are the former evil diety Satan.You broke free of "satan's chains" and you sided with good
and never looked back,it was like getting out of jail,as you said.I'm confused
i quote this:
"Satan was bested by the powerful God Vajrasattva & created me to take a human form in the afterlife to be the father of the second coming of Jesus Christ. ""
then this is to be said
2 fallen Archons, which are part of this pantheon, are named Satan & Jehovah. I say fallen because I?m an emanation of the defeated Wrathful God Satan (he created me as an Angel and I walk here to help the Earth in this 3-dimensional partial reality).
and i'll continue
(I want nothing to do with Satan and broke free from any responsibility to him by allying myself with the Peaceful Gods).
The naive judeo-christian doctrines on this planet believe I was the only evil Deity to be harming Earth?s people, but there are countless Wrathful and Peaceful Deities that exist. Just do some reading in any shamanic books or old religious texts and you?ll hear of many more Archons than just Satan.
After I prayed that this was all a massive delusion -- and then being told by the Gods that this information was unfortunately true (about formerly being the Dark Deity Satan),
The Gods are still testing me and basically throwing me into Hell Realms like you shove a dog's nose into shit when you want him to stop crapping.
The Gods also admonished me not disclose my true identity as originally being Satan
i'm just confused,i believed you on everything,then i noticed this,this is confusion.please,when you come back,fix this.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: tnecseda]
#2861407 - 07/06/04 11:30 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Some are what they are, others pretend to be what they are becoming but no one seems to know what to do.
Isn't action more important than a single existence or word ?
I am, i say but what ta'hell i'm i going to do ?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: supermarket]
#2861610 - 07/06/04 01:13 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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The way I figure, if anyone of today's anthropologists still can't find the "missing evolutionary link", then it *COULD* be a possibility that the humans didn't naturally evolve from the commonly believed primates we've been said to have our origins in.
I couldn't find my keys today, so it *COULD* be a possibility that aliens beamed into my living room and absconded with them.
*Ahem* Lack of evidence to support one theory is hardly support for a specific alternate theory.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Swami]
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hahhhahaha.thats funny even though i agree with him.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: tnecseda]
#2862529 - 07/06/04 06:23 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Is this thread serious? Man if you were a living God you surely would say you were just like us. It's OK, to be here and live your life and not know what it means. But you shouldn't actually believe you made this. You pulled out some of its magic tricks but you never made anything. Why would you put so much time learning about the spiritual world to bullshit everyone?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: sox24]
#2862620 - 07/06/04 06:51 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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No it was not serious. If you read all of it that becomes quite apparent.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#2863152 - 07/06/04 08:52 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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actually im thinkin spacedragon was being quite serious...iv seen him post the same things on a couple of message boards.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Archemetis]
#2863181 - 07/06/04 08:58 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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No, he blows his cover too easily.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#2863804 - 07/07/04 02:14 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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did u guys actually check out that website with all that tech crap. it was most definitely a hoax, i mean check it out do a little reading (the site with the rife machine) it was all good spacedragon till u posted that piece of shit site.
just because someone wrote it down in a book doesn;t mean its the truth. people do write lies for the sake of fooling others.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: dorkus]
#2864818 - 07/07/04 11:03 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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you've seen the reptilians too? where does this strange vision/'communication' come from? *perplexed
the reptiles come from the medulla oblongata.
visions or dreams of reptiles indicate a coming level of knowledge, may not be cheap tho. be very clear about what you want to know.
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did u guys actually check out that website with all that tech crap. it was most definitely a hoax, i mean check it out do a little reading (the site with the rife machine) it was all good spacedragon till u posted that piece of shit site.
just because someone wrote it down in a book doesn;t mean its the truth. people do write lies for the sake of fooling others.
Its most definately a hoax? I've done a little reading and from what I've read is that it may have some credibility. What have you read?
After doing a lot of searching, this is the most neutral site I've found:
http://www.fastbk.com/rife/can.htm
All it says is that the machine deserves study.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: psyka]
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spacedragon has done better marketing than I've ever seen, and slipped it right past you guys.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: supermarket]
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spacedragon has done better marketing than I've ever seen, and slipped it right past you guys.
haha, that is some quality shit
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: mr crisper]
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the reptiles come from the medulla oblongata.
visions or dreams of reptiles indicate a coming level of knowledge, may not be cheap tho. be very clear about what you want to know.
I like your answer, and agree with it to a certain extent, but I don't think it completely answers the question... It's true that there is a reptilian part of the brain, and that experiences with them could be associated with it, but this does not mean that they are not real. Don't get caught into the trap of thinking that just because something is not physical, it's not "real".
The reptilians most likely arise from the collective unconscious and have to do with our species' deep involvement with them in the past. And they had a hand in our creation, if my sources are correct...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Panoramix]
#2888774 - 07/14/04 06:16 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I want to make sure we're clear about the holy vessel idea. We can all be holy vessels & I was only chosen because it shows how one needs to simply be attuned to the Way of the Universe (even if coming from the other side). I also have truly repented and want to change. If the Gods need you at tghe time, they can have a very special position for you. The position of World Leader should not be taken likely & it could be a big reason why the Gods chose me for the job. I was seemingly expendable when they found me and verified I was Satan's reincarnation. I was trying to study spiritualism and getting good results from seeking out teachers - but I needed some work and some purification. I think the Gods thought I would just die really quickly or thrown in padded room.
Many didn't realize that I would adhere closely to the teachings through this stress & become enlightened. It could also have been my love for my kids and family -- and wanting the best for them (when being told I will be buried under the jail for these revolutionary posts). Also, it's a good kick in the pants for the so-called masters in the east and west who are so strict and ritual-obsessed. Here comes a kid who believes whole-heartedly in helping this Earth and wants everyone to feel bliss, happiness and health.
Now I'm the Emperor of Earth who reigns over several other planets including 2 other Earth-like planets and Neptune (formerly the home of the Draconian Empire who threatened us and made terroristic threats).
Anyway, I just wanted to tell you that ANYONE can do it if I can - to be a holy vessel or liason to the Heaven or Hell Realms. The Universal Mind will allow for Baby Jesus and Baby Siddhartha Buddha to be born into my family (not only for protection from fanatics in the Christian and Jewish tradition --who may want to kill me and think this is trickery -- -- but also because I'll be a good teacher to them until they grow up and become my teacher and all the world's teachers.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2888783 - 07/14/04 06:23 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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To the person that wants to "puke in my shoes" or wants her god Jehovah to piss in my shoes like you said - I just wanted to say That's FUNNY. You made me laugh and said the funniest thing I've heard in a while.
I'm still a Holy One and the father of Jesus Christ who will have his not-too-late second coming. (When talking in millenia 2004 or 2005 isn't too far off). The dude who says he's Jesus at age 22 should put down his pipe and pray or something LOL.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2891866 - 07/14/04 10:46 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Communicating with Gods has become easier over these last years and, (as I mentioned) when the barrier between the 3rd and 4th dimension weakens even more it'll be easier for us to interact (see, touch, taste) higher-vibrational beings. It's interesting when a whole town or city of ancient Mayans would disappear without a trace. Many people would say they migrated or something like that (maybe buried somehow without a trace - all those many people?). Many Shamen knew that their vibrations and spiritual attunement caused them to simply "walk to heaven" and exist full time within the 4th dimensional parameters -- vibrations so "fine" or "high" that our human eyes could no longer see them. It's a rare thing for a whole community or civilization to accomplish but if the stars are positioned right & the planet/air/food/water is healthy we could maybe even create vortexes to jumpstart a God-like rebirth.
I would never force religion on people and the Gods originally wanted me to tell everyone I was Jevovah in human form, not Satan. Jehovah was an Archon who misinformed people that there was only one God. I said I have to tell them who I really am and not start a prophet's journey on a B.S. lie like that. If I gotta bite the dust that's cool but I don't like Jehovah very much for propagating such bullshit for humans to believe in just one God and have wars about it for no good reason.
I don't want to be evil anymore and I certainly don't need the planet to be retarted about knowledge of the Spirit Realm or Time-Dimension because Jehovah, evangelists & Bush Jr. want to keep the power in the hands of the few with their naive and ridiculous Christianity.
Also, spread the word that the Buddha Siddhartha & Doc The (the powerful & wonderful vietnamese monk who burned himself publicly in protest) will be born into my family. I asked the Gods to consider also that Tupac, Biggie Smalls and Eisenhower could be reborn into my realm -- I still haven't received the final word on that one. They could maybe ascend from the Hell Realms for this big party. The other three heavenly rebirths are supremely exciting anyway. I mainly considered the three hellions (when they requested admittance into my realm) because I don't believe in excessive sentences.
Worse scenarios could result on other worlds (when other planets may pass through photon belts). For instance, if evil was truly prevailing or the planet's beings were too ignorant of messages from aliens and gods. Those planets won't see nice, heavenly realms and it could really turn out to be disasterous. Now, the heavenly realm we'll be experiencing on Earth following 2012 will be beyond words. I mentioned earlier that it will become easier for humans to a attain God-like form over the next century -- and I hope everyone will join me in the heavenly realms when you connect to the Univesal Mind Lattice.
When self-cherishing stops and others become the focus of your cherishing, a healing process begins and your karma is steadily cleansed. Also, it seems less important to become a ceaselessly blissful God and more important to use this precious human form to help as many people as you can --because at a certain level of wisdom you can't help but see the pain others are going through. The sensitive ones can even "feel" their pain.
Lastly (concerning the Mayan peoples I was thinking about before evolving to Gods and Goddesses) it would be easy for people to know they were still here on Earth at the time simply by communicating with them (in dreams, messages during the daytime or upon entering the Imaginal Realm itself. Many believers in the changes happening in 2012 also talk about the ancient Mayans traveling on light itself and riding a cool type of light super-hwy. So, maybe they never did actually stay and reign for a while over some humans or lesser beasts. Traveling at the speed of light is no longer a problem and the bliss the Gods feel all the time sounds amazing. I just got tired of being wrathful and it's easy to see how love is more powerful and worthy of pursuing. It is truly boundless.
Edited by spacedragon (08/24/04 12:14 AM)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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About the reptiles in the Imaginal Realm and our 3d realm. Our dimensions are not as disconnected as I sometimes accidently make out. I see the entities all the time -- but through my third eye like a projector that focuses inward to get the picture.
4th dimensional entities created by our collective unconscious soul can see us much easier than we can see them. However, it's not really the deities or the dead you need to worry about as much as the living that can be avatars through them.
Also, there may be different kinds of lizards that have evolved technologically out there. Back to my point. For some reason the Gods keep telling us that the Draconian Race has been subdued and my visions of destroying them were not a delusion.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2914171 - 07/21/04 09:33 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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I chose these boards because you guys are best suited to be priests or shaman for this cause of saving the world. I also post on the large ICQ boards and several other forums. I just stick to one thread and answer any questions people have. Being a former Elohim scientist I can see this world's evolved greatly. What are some techno-crazed little humanoids gonna do when our Gods and humans invade their minds with powerful killing energies and death threats that would turn Ivan the Terrible soft.
So, I'm here to say "up you go!" it's time for heaven if anyone's interested in doing real spiritual work. Because buying the church's indulgences or going to 1 day/week to worship will never get you into a Heavenly Realm of existence. It'll be easier when our planet's energy & vibrations are raised as we pass through a photon belt. Without a cosmic event like that I probably wouldn't be bothering you and we could keep bouncing around the 6 realms of existence: Heaven Realms, Demi-Gods, Humans, Animals, Hungry Ghosts & the Smoky Hells.
Of course there are techniques to be completely free from the cycle of death and rebirth. We could use this as a time to really launch from this human form into the state of "absolute balance" and be completely free. This is geared toward answering the questions of people who are worried about a former evil God being the messenger. I mainly repeat this just for people who may just be coming on to this thread later. I'm not the only messenger also. I'm also to be a king & shaman to protect and unite this world with the help of all these great spiritual entities here.
Some of the more extremely evolved aliens that monitor us - remember to please read the disclosure of the former US military Captain John Lear who noted that the this US gov't knows there are 18 different alien species that are monitoring the Earth. Now that I've sent some away with the help of you guys we're left with the benevolent aliens and the neutral aliens. They just like to study and analyze different species and DNA-projects like this masterpiece we have here. Time and evolution played the most important role instead of the Elohim race simply innoculating and having art contests with DNA making funky birds and fish that we enjoy here. Some of them have evolved and changed to better suit this atmosphere - but many animal species on this planet originally started out with decorations and colors that weren't necessary or useful - they changed over time also to even better suit the environment (with the laws of nature that govern our starswarm.)
But, why don't we unify this little planet (with all the predators lurking about in the vast cosmos) and use the impetus of the photon belt's energies to enter Heavenly dimensions. As the photon energy raises most of our vibrations to 4th and 5th dimensions - we can all be in a better position to end the cycle of suffering and rebirth.
Oh, you'll love heaven and this is not an end. One can live thousands of years as a God or Goddess so pls don't think this is an end or an apocolypse as we prepare to make this jump in evolution.
Also, the Rife Machine that can destroy the AIDS virus is available on Ebay and several other online stores that would insure it's delivery. I receive everything I order from Futurehorizons.net and they would never rip off anyone. It's the other gadgets and cool weapons of the future that I keep going back for.
Creating the position of World Leader was a side-project. More importantly is getting you guys involved & spreading info about our potential to exist in Heaven Realms even easier this decade. I will reside as World Leader for 44 years and then pass the Kingdom on to the God Vajrasattva in human form for another reign of 44 years. After that, we can hold competitions on Earth (both physical and mental) to see which human will next be a good candidate for World Leader). You may decide you want to make the term less by having global internet voting and see what the majority thinks. But, for now, I will be king until the day I die in 44 years & you'll need Lightning Master (Lord Vajrasattva) down here as king in human form to help cleanse your karma through massive global chanting if you have any hopes of entering a Heaven & surviving this energy shift on the Earth.
Maybe you could make a website for this cause or just cut and paste some of these posts to a friend (even if it reads "check out this dude is crazy." Also, The Temple of Adam will not need to be built by breaking the backs of workers and slaves. It's already underway and I think loads of statues to an emperor are sometimes unecessary. I'm more interested in building statues on all the continents of the four Gods that are helping me through this:
Avalokiteshvara (who's emanation in this 3D realm is the Dalai Lama), Vajrasattva (A God of Karma that is not to be trifled with), Jarwar (one of the very few Elohim aliens that took a God-like rebirth and, last but not least: Draco is the fourth God I speak to regularly & was originally from another planet as well.
So, all statues being made until I end this reign will be to "The Four". However, first we need to focus on healing this planet & analyze how to introduce the AIDS/STD/Cancer cure as well as the proven plans for free energy (without completely crashing the economies around the world).
We could easily have free energy for every home - but the technology has been suppressed - by whom? I don't think I need to say it. But, just for fun, the little stupid US gov't who made deals with aliens to let us be harvested and is planning to explode a suitcase-nuke in Chicago to cover up a bunch of evidence of misconduct by the gov't and other's associated with them (and then use the detonation as an excuse to start more wars or possibly a WW3).
What's very important first is to get this cure for cancer and aids. Next, but also very important is getting rdy to use these free energy machines & proven cars that run on water. So, we need to concentrate on strengthening the U.N. while I build a protective World Army so we can aim our nukes at the skies finally instead of at each other.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Adamist]
#2914364 - 07/21/04 10:32 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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You're right about humans & human shamen being mislead & many are confused when enduring other intelligences invading our mind - breaking our trust and focus to really listen to the Universal Mind. Really, when the Gods manifest, they're metaphors for a Universal Conscious that we're all a culmination of and connected to.
So, there's a difference between the naive idea of a omniscient & omnipotent being who looks like a white dude. C'mon. When a God manifests it's really a metaphor of the Universal Mind that we're relating to, getting advice from, or sometimes just needing to see the Gods in an anthropomorphic that looks like us here - so people ask, can a person from the West see the same Gods from the East and vice versa? Of course. Your training, direct transmission from a qualified master, and visualization techniques will depict how anyone experiences or "sees" the Gods. You could also envision Mary or Lord Jesus to invoke this holy presence which, to over-simplify, is really holy because you made a connection with this pantheon ruling Earth and the universal consciousness that the sentient beings can tap into. So, when they manifest visually that's a metaphor or a way we can relate but they can take forms to teach us & help us learn to tap the Universal Mind for our own Godhood.
So, besides the lies from the power-hungry Archon Jehovah/God, we've also been misled by a species of super-evolved aliens who fled from a predator in this sector & cast many DNA creatures out to disguise itself. Now they seem to reside on Jupiter (which is fuckin amazing when you think about it because Jupiter is a proto-star that emits more energy than it gets from the sun. Some moons around it have a gravitational pull so intense that the rock all over the moon buckles like we see ocean tides of water being high and low). These unexplainably advanced & very mobile entities were able to survive and now also whisper in our minds and even the Gods leave them alone (some maybe even serve them) They are massively-intelligent & huge whale sized 3-Dimensional entities but are really in and out of heaven realms and probably have a really good marriage of science and religion too.
So, I can see that many of you have been lulled back into sleep about the "whales" as I call them - but the shamen never forgot .
So, there was DNA brought down to our earth by another group of aliens (who were running from a greater threat and created many entities from DNA to hide itself behind). They came to our Earth before the Elohim came and even an ice age separated them. But, original inhabitants of the Earth were from some other DNA project from those super-evolved entities.
Many species of animal, human & plant were cast into this world to disguise these entities from an even more super-evolved group of aliens. These huge beings look whale-shaped - but also possess a type of body armor that's makes it look like it functions as also as an interstellar spaceship. I mean, they're very mobile and powerful and will stop ruling us and toying with our heads now that we've evolved and become aware of them and allying with our Gods to protect us. They like to make us serve them sometimes (both humans and sometimes even Gods) in the Spirit Realm that they also travel within frequently.
We've now forged an alliance between our Gods and there will be less power struggles and Shaman deaths as we unite to all enter the 4th and 5th dimensions following 2012.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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So, there's a difference between the naive idea of a omniscient & omnipotent being who looks like a white dude. C'mon. When a God manifests it's really a metaphor of the Universal Mind that we're relating to, getting advice from, or sometimes just needing to see the Gods in an anthropomorphic that looks like us here- so people ask, can a person from the West see the same Gods from the East and vice versa?
I agree completely with you. The cultural expression of god is somehow a drawback when trying to explain his form and actions.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: MAIA]
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[My response to a PM of a friend of mine]
Hello,
Thank you for writing to me and I think there may be several things to help your condition. You're a wise person especially if ya can even diagnose your problem on a psychic level. What's more impressive is you remembered the whole event and lessons of the encounter - not losing it: your "frame of reference" that many of us lose when we go higher into the dimensions of hyperspace.
Sometimes they don't like when we cross energies with their realm. Maybe you had that encounter for a reason and not a random occurance. It's almost like our nervous energy messes with their vibe and they're teaching us a lesson. You may be a much better astral traveler to me. I'm just discovering latent powers and want to use them for good and a spiritual revolution.
I was very interested to read your PM & it struck me because I'd gone through similar encounters to. Feeling like they were residing in my body. Mine was like on my freakin' right foot. That kinda stuff is just wierd - like the movie Alien wierd. Who knows, maybe it's more complicated than that and they do still reside there but we can get help I bet from other shaman.
There are shaman who consider almost all sicknesses to originate from the Spirit World or 4th dimension's "Imaginal" entities (or you can say "energies" too.) Or sometimes just other humans' "evil eye" stare (which, some argue, can take on a real presence in the Imaginal Realm and do literal damage on the target that the person is "envisioning" harm on). Creative Visualization is the term I've been using for affecting the Imaginal Realm and getting my bearings again when I've pissed off a God. The love shield is the best ... the entities may chill out after some enter because we're shining love and tolerance like they enjoy often.
Well, our fear during a trip could really mess their "domain" up because it seems they live on our thoughts and aren't just drawn to anybody - Peaceful Gods will be attracted to peaceful and worthy humans and harmful Gods will be attracted to the energies of a really hateful or sick person I bet.
Sometimes, almost like in a dream, we can cast off these evil spritual energies by envisioning or entering the Imaginal Realm and confronting them.
I believe there will be more Gods available for help and protection (maybe even more visual miracles but they are still really happening every day - there more subtle then we're used to in the movies)
Now that I've tried to summon them to help us walk into Heaven, this will get very interesting. I strive for nothing but to make like free of suffering and no more emphasis on human ignorance, evil and hellish existences for slaves and materialistic people on Earth.
However, humans did a great job too of learning from their mistakes (albeit slowly) I'm one of them too so I know what it's like - I've made mistakes in many forms over the millenia. We're more rdy to make this change into the 4th and 5th dimensions (or possibly higher) during this photon belt encounter. Considering our recent bursts in knowledge, learning from our mistakes as well as bloom of great technology, it's safe to say our planet has enetered this energy field of photon light and will continue to build in vibration and bring happiness and love to all of us.
We'll get results like in the Terminator or the Matrix if we let this techno-craze get out of hand ...so balance is essential. The Elohim have given some useful scientific knowledge lately and maybe we can find suggestions from other intelligent cosmic neighbors about how to not blow ourselves up when we get into light travel and build more powerful nukes (which can explode very powerfully in space by the way and will be put on our first fleet of space planes). The pictures & diagrams showed how they disrupt all electrical devices too and can slam some alien vessels. No more exploding over our world. I'm talking to you gov't cats listening.
I'm decriminalizing marijuana up to 100 grams in all countries under the UN. Hemp is completely legal so I'll need some guerrilla hemp and marijuana growers out there to repopulate the earth and save us with the resources it will provide. There should be no taxes for any farmers who want to grow hemp or marijuana for medical purposes. So they can be paid back for their efforts to work with crummy cow-pasture over-grazed soil.
What's best is that, at the end of the day, they're mostly just idle threats from the Archons. Also we need to join together to make sure our strong spiritual and martial presences are known to other aliens - as we have now been offered admission into a galactic federation. We can start with weapons with more stopping power to protect againgst any more alien abductions. There are both UFO detectors and other possible protection against visitors. Like the new ion phaser pistol I'm gonna get that shoot a burst of high-voltage fluid at the attacker.
If we pull out of the Middle East and get our resources into making a World Army. America can help rebuild the damage by using its tourism money to sustain itself for a while as well as chill out the ridiculous military spending by Bush.
Other devices like the "sonic devastator" harm many organisms and can cause aliens extreme pain. 2 stun guns to the chest of a "Grey" alien or the draconians would take them down most likely, but we all like projectiles it seems. Although, anyone making a move to abduct usually has many mind-control tricks. Sometimes enough to completely erase the memory.
Only one friend of mine remembers an abduction. But when his bond with the one he loved was strong enough to wake him up during the encounter because he wanted the best for her and kinew something was up - he is plagued with horrible memories of it but is happy she was alive and he was able to thwart the abduction.
Lastly, I may retract what I had said before, and DO believe spirit entities actually can reside in a plant. Although I had said earlier that it's more about the vibrations and LSD & 2-CB/2-CI can make people feel similarly God-Like. We're starting to find that maybe advanced organisms are sort of hitching a ride on these attractive species as we use them for a symbiotic benefit. It's mainly about energy frequencies to attune to ot open to (like in ESP). When your soul is unleashed at the moment of death that's when one has great potential to take a God form and acts like a super-computer you wouldn't believe - you're open to see everything you wanted to know concerning the past, present & future.
So, these spirit entities that live this powerfully full-time can come to visit the healthiest of crops or loving humans who pray to them. They can hear your prayers because it's like their frequency. The entheogenic crops have a certain frequency that a God may reside over and attune to in order to teach and help those seeking higher modes of living.
Certain chemical drugs can also have a God or some spirit associated with them now. So, I personally don't exclude the notion that Astral Spirits can inhabit or come to the user of a hallucinogenic substance. Check this out from a book I was reading: "...the belief in animated spirits of hallucinogenic plants recurs throughout the samples... The shaman may call upon such forces to protect his community. At times, such spirit forces have been considered more powerful than man and have been viewed as a means of communicating with the realm of the supernatural, rather than experienced as forces which could be controlled." - from Dobkin's "Hallucinogens: Cross-cultural Perspectives".
"Dimension"... Jim DeKorne goes on in his book after the above quote "is a word so overused that often we don't consider ir carefully enough...Each spatial dimension is structured in a direction perpendicular to it. (The wordperpendicular refers to a line or plane at right angles to another line or plane.) This unfolding sequence is a consistent principle, an equation for the erection of higher dimensional structures. Hence, a one-dimensional line is perpendicular to a zero-dimensional point; a two-dimensional plane is perpendicular to a one-dimensional line, and a three-dimensional cube is perpendicular to a two-dimensional plane. If the principle is constant, it should point the way to four-dimensional space. The logical question is: which "direction' is perpendicular to a cube?"
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: MAIA]
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Sometimes the notion of Time still eludes me and this quick passage helped:
Time is an observer-centered subjective experience of continuity in a three-dimensional present. Thus, time conceived of as "a dimension of duration" is dependent upon two functions of consciousness, memory and imagination. Although we can remember past events and can imagine future ones, we can only experience the past and the future as artifacts of our conscious present. It follows that time (the immediate present) is perpendicular to the consciousness because memory (the past) and imagination (the future) are both components of the psyche. Therefore, if time is a dimension, then so is consciousness because they are existentially inseparable.
Using the equation that each "higher" dimension is perpendicular to the one "below" it (these are three-dimensional concepts, but the priciple transcends its description), we can say that consciousness and time are perpendicular to space, and are therefore multi-dimensional phenomena. This brings us back to the shamanic model of the psyche, which we can now see as a more precisely differentaited desciption of human awareness than any provided by Western psychology.
In summary: Our familiar three-dimensional reality is called the "middle world" in the shamanic model. Both the lower and upper worlds are internal dimensions which are entered via altered states of consciousness. Because hyperspace is perpendicular to ego-awareness, consciousness is the bridge which links all of the worlds together.
Access to the inner dimensions is dependent upon many factors. Everyone enters them while dreaming, but hypnosis, meditation, severe stress and many other catalysts, including psychedelic drugs, can also provide admittance." from Jim DeKorne's Psychedelic Shamanism
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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when is weed gonna be legal? im waiting.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Adamist]
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In every culture and in every historical epoch, human beings have felt the need for ecstatic experience - for a kind of joy that transcends everyday reality. Various cultures have tried to satisfy this need in many different ways, and some have been much more spiritually oriented than others. In the nineteenth century, the Russian novelist Fyodor Dostoevsky asserted that people need three experiences from their society in order to be content - miracles, mystery and spiritual guidance - and that these three experiences are much more important to them than the satisfaction of their material needs. - Deepak Chopra
He goes on to say in "Overcoming Addictions" that "Rather than seeing addicts as simply weak or even criminal human beings, I choose to see them as people who are responding self-destructively, but still quite understandably, to the spiritual vacuum that exists amid our material abundance."
No, I'm not an Elohim now - born and raised in the US. Also, no I'm not a dragon. That's just the form I like to take in the Spirit World (sometimes a huge snake because that's also my birth sign - I was born on a night when the year of the snake turns into the year of the dragon.)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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are you calling me an addict?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Both shrooms and DXM don't really have strong addictive properties. Yes, we're finding that DXM could begin to cause mental and physical dependencies but nothing like opiates. It's the whole community I'm addressing I guess, some of us have other propensities that fall in & out of the drug scene - also, I think Dr. Chopra is cool.
Thanks for asking about weed. America will of course have to make decisions for itself but I hear "through the grapevine" (in this case the Spirit World) that Kerry will have a surprise for you if he wins. Anyway, get the smokers or any1 who supports medicinal marijuana. So, it will be decriminalized up to 100 grams and hemp will be made completely legal to make car oils and fuel to heat homes - not to mention food from the seeds rich in essential fatty acids while we also import more beef from Canada while we build fields of hemp down here also to make clothing and paper as well as butters and other nutritional baked goods. Just think of everything that crude oil produces plus much more. This isn't going to break the economy and we can only stand to help the coastline of California from erosion with many houses built there and have the marijuana or hemp plants' deep-reaching roots to prevent the houses and hills from falling into the sea. These are just some of the many ideas we can use this wonderful plant, both make and female, to help us. Of course we could prevent the hills from sliding by building expensive walls and support systems but simply planting this type of plant can do the same thing plus clean up the environment.
like me to go out and vote Kerry and also the hackers need to make sure the web servers don't go down again this next election night - and, if so, report it directly to me and my World Army that no more rigged elections will occur on this planet. Especially, for a position of power so big as the United States. I have my Capital here in the US like the pope has his city - but, I never claim to be infallible and anyone who does (even the Dalai Lama wouldn't who's a God-King here on Earth).
I'm just trying to get enough money to leave and rule from an island temple or from Mars. To many scammers have fucked it up for guys like me haha. Like a captain on a seaship I would never leave my vessel (Earth) so Mars will be colonized by others (just on it's surface for now though) - with the express permission of the God of Venus and Mars "Ryukin".
The flying jetpacks I have for you guys to play with will be amazing WOOT - in gravity much less than Earth, it will be worth it and the spacechicks (really just sexy human women for now but we can doll them up in cool, sleek spacesuits).
We need to work on helping the homeless & overpopulation also by learning concepts from the Japanese about their new space-saving, floating coastal skyscrapers. These huge buildings can help our planet and some newer ones deal with the tsunamis. Not all of these skyscapers have to be built in tnunami-prone area though. The first subsidy will go to the Japanese, however, to increase their efficiency and safety for their prototypes. We'll start by populating their coast (and making a nice tourist attraction for the nice restaurants with phenomenal views and clubs or casinos whatever. We could also populate the coast of China with these apartment building scyscrapers with the added benefit of a hotel, movie theater or casino. These structures are huge guys, and I saw it on the Discovery Channel, and could easily have small malls or hotels as well as places for people to live in and build a life. Of course the beach and the city life is availabel but this is something we may think about spreading to Mars and doing more studies to help with our population problem.
I said everyone was able to go to heaven but we still have some time to prepare and help the starving & needy. Some of you may have several lifetimes because stepping into "Heaven" with us (which is an existence in a higher dimension and heavenly is just a word - be careful not to take a demonic rebirth because we'll be here to cast you very far away or just kill you dead again to try for an animal or God or human rebirth. Sorry, no pearly gate - you are the ultimate judge and the accused so just try to see the clear light and not hold on at the moment of death to fears or regrets.
Things are cooking up nicely because of the information age. You can spread the word quickly these days but people still need to do deep spiritual work. Things are looking good for our planet and we can even get help from an inter-galactic alliance now that we're on the Map.
Please feel free to PM me anytime and I hope we can someday meet for you to meet the "tulkus" - or reincarnations of the heavenly ones:
~ Jesus, Siddhartha & Doc The ~
Otherwise, you'll see them plenty on the TV. It's all about popularity and getting the media on your side. They'll trash me for a while but it's undeniable that I'll become a great ruler and Peaceful God - no longer cast out because of a jealous Archon. When they say cast out I really think that means he just "did me in". He must have just killed me and tried to stop anyone from out-evolving him.
I have no beef with Jehovah but I'm pretty set on getting a nice position of power to open Earth to all the Gods from many worlds that can make this 2-bit world become a true Heaven (or at least no longer a dysfunctional family unit) squabbling over pieces of sand and finite fossil oils.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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I regret to say but its been many moons since a smile manifested on my grim face. Ive authored and read many such posts on shroomery but this got to be the wackiest, craziest, funnies post ever!
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The Gods are still testing me and basically throwing me into Hell Realms like you shove a dog's nose into shit when you want him to stop crapping.
Space 'World Leader' Dragon, i take my hat off to you.
Keep it up, it will keep my blood circulating and my heart pumping.
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you're voting Kerry? or at least supporting him?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: BlueCoyote]
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"The End To All Diseases"
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Hehe thanks for saying that. Me too I find myself actually smiling lately & I've even been getting death threats and my kids haunted. Fuck em - whether in life or in death we'll be able to enter this wonderful age of enlightenment and freedom.
I'm not sure what our ruling is about a World Leader voting for this. I don't want to create any more bias & may just make sure it's a fair election.
Let me clear something up about my posts. They are all authentic especially to me and you can create worlds around you. We reside in the Middle World and you can create both Hell and Heaven Realms right around you and fly without wings with a less dense body eventually. But listen, when I said I post all over it's mainly just -------- Shroomery.org ---- Dextroverse.org ---------- ICQ.com -------- DMT World before they upgraded to the new boards. Plus, LOL I didn't want anyone having a large DMT dose to read anymore of this until their definitly sitting down or just high on hash or weed LOL Just so dirt dicks don't post defamatory sites - the only authentic Adam (Dragon) posts you'll be seeing are on the aforementioned sites.
I meant that it's "all about popularity" in the political game. I think you know what I meant - I just wanted to clarify that. We're all aiming for higher at this point hopefully so ..
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: BlueCoyote]
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And please forget about the photon-belt crap. Here in Germany, this stuff should had been over before the year 2000, including all updates and so. Now, nobody talks about it, even if it's fascinating.
We're not entirely in the energy of the belt - but, the Australians, Chinese, Native Americans & many other cultures share the same prediction. Maybe Germany will be skipped over Haha.
Also, Blue Coyote I think the communications between Gods wax and wane a lot because of the distractions for so many of us not leading a monastic life. Bare with me a little - and no this is not induced from LSD. I can see how some people could get visuals from that type of tryptamine that just stick around or thought loops but I'm flexible and pliable man and ready to keep this Earth safe and evolving (wink wink stem cell research is good wink wink we need it.)
I just meditate deeply and listen. You have to take the good with the bad though - the Gods will kick your ass for nights on end about what you need to clean up about your life and then, only when your worthy will come back to check on ya maybe. I just caused a commotion because I was ready to end this ridiculous gov't so I'm able to get interviewed and brutilized a little more than the next man. They were driving me crazy as well as LEO having this thing in my head so I even started to result to psychic means to get this power and get motherfuckers out of my way. Now I just want to make sure the cabinet listens properly and I receive more healing abilities and power from the Gods.
After telling me they'll simply ram a spike through my pineal gland to stop transmissions with Gods and my ability to properly astral travel to pay victims a visit - I decided to take the throne the moral and more thought-provoking way. No deaths, no tyranny, no problem. Please keep in mind I was also "the man who would not be king" like USA's first president & I'm not power hungry or looking to make life harder- only better and more unified. To get everyone the resources they need. I'm not asking for money because, after cutting the military spending worldwide, I want the power back in the hands of the people. Later I might put up a site to donate 50 cents to help me have a suitable domain when my wife is pregnant with Baby Jesus.
I'll die for you to protect this Earth. For now I need to do some more cleaning up of this planet & get rdy for Vajrasattva to come down. There are great new technologies for excess landfills, helping our atmosphere and getting free energy (utilities) for peoples homes as well as free fuel for their cars.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2936504 - 07/28/04 01:01 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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and the Skull & Bones connection means nothing to you? how would he would be any better?
he represents the same failed system as bush.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Clean]
#2938118 - 07/28/04 08:09 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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i cant figure out why spacedragon is posting all this..
its like the terror alerts on the news..
"the terror alert has been elevated to orange."
okay... so? ... whats this mean for me?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: BleaK]
#2938253 - 07/28/04 08:43 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Trolls lurk near...not you, but the author.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#2938474 - 07/28/04 09:25 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Read the whole thread then - it's not about trolling for hits or posts. I feel we can make this Earth a better place. Also, I forgot to mention that many star systems have been discovered to have Jupiter-sized planets in a decaying orbit around similar suns (maybe the pinnacle of DNA expression for the 3rd dimension can live on such energy-rich planets.) As I said, it is believed that there's intelligence dwelling on this planet we call Jupiter that's huge and 300X the mass of Earth.
We are developing a uniquely personal, yet worldwide phenomenon of channeling the deepest archetypes of the human psyche. Because it reveals consciousness in context with it's source, shamanism is our oldest model for the exploration of the inner dimensions (4th , 5th, 6th etc.) It's also humanity's most ancient form of religion, as well as the precursor of both psychology and medicine...The key ideas here are that the shaman can alter his or her consciousness at will (either through innate skill or using psychotropic drugs); that he is a master if the out-of-body experience (that is, he can go where he wills in other dimensions of reality, and understands how to deal with the forces he meets there); and, last but not least, he serves the needs of the community.
The shaman's worlds and levels are more than interconnected. They are holocoenotic; that is every part affects every other part. Shamans believe that these interactions can be perceived and affected by one who knows how to do so and that the shaman, like the spider at the center of a cosmic web, can feel and influence distant realms.
In accordance with the principles of dimensional progression, we have seen that higher dimensional observers can discern the lower dimensions more "objectively" than the other way around. Any world is subjective until we can perceive it from the next higher level. This principle enables the shaman to cure an illness "from the other side," to manipulate its symbolic likeness in the imaginal realm. Because he has learned how to project his awareness into higher-dimensional regions, the shaman is empowered to act on 3-dimensional space in ways we have traditionally labeled as "magical," as the work of a supernatural being. "Supernatural," of course, is just a word which defines the limits of our current understanding.
-Thank you Master DeKorne. Those last passages were a compilation of awesome thoughts from his books.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Clean]
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Thanks - just keep me informed. I can't believe I didn't know this guy supported the Skull & Bones too. Look he'll be impeached if he keeps any more ties with them and we'll see what his vice pres does - otherwise, we'll just start a new election over. Who knows? I could ask the Universal Mind but many people seem to be upset with me so I'm going to wait out this election - and then possibly force the US to decriminalize marijuana up to 100g anyway - hemp is already legal and I want guerrilla growers out there spreading seeds.
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Fuck em - whether in life or in death we'll be able to enter this wonderful age of enlightenment and freedom.
Fucking oath man, fucking oath
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: cleaner]
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It follows that upon consciously entering the realms of mind-space [dimensions higher than our 3-dimensional partial reality] a well-integrated personality will encounter a different dimension (or at least perceive it differently) than a less integrated one. One of the most common ordeals of shamanic iniatiation is the symbolic dismemberment and reintegration of the apprentice. This universal theme is emblematic of a deep psychological unification...
The "consummation of the Great Work" is an archaic Western equivalent to shamanic initiation. An extreme rarity in any time or culture, the attainment of such knowledge represents a personal breakthrough of the highest order. Yet, assuming an eternal continuity of consciousness in the dimensions of mind-space, the concept is unavoidably obvious:
Existence is to be reguarded as an unbroken flux of life, subject to incessant transition and change. Life in a fleshly form on Earth, life in the subtle after-death body in the Heaven-worlds, in Hells, or in the Intermediate State, and the life which seems to take birth through the womb-doors is in reality one.
The Shaman is one who has attained communication with the supernatural (a spirit world, in most shamanistic conceptions) and may act as a mediator between spririts or gods and man, making the desires of each known to the other. In this, he may be called a primitive prophet. Apparently his ecstasy is not for himself but for others: his patients, his disciples, or the community at large. Yet we must not forget that in his becoming a mouthpiece of the gods he fulfills his calling - and some reports indicate that a shaman that has no occasion to shamanize tends to become ill
- excerpt from Evans-Wentz's Tibet's Great Yogi Milarepa also more passages from DeKorne's book.
Fuck all that last stuff about getting sick. I have my women to massage me and provide acupuncture so we can really get this world jumping off.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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I haven't read the other replies. And I haven't read your post. But I know you are a god with his own views on this world. Everyone who makes his own world model out of this informational overload that we live in and do our best to filter out is a god.
You are a god and you know it. We are all gods in our own way...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: cybrbeast]
#2940323 - 07/29/04 10:33 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pause for a moment and try to imagine four-dimensional space. It is right next to you, but in a direction you can't point to. No matter how well hidden you may be, a four-dimensional creature can see you perfectly well, inside and outside...
Leaving aside for a moment the probability that some entities, such as UFOs, can "holographically" project themselves into our physical space, the only higher-dimensional entities that human beings usually encounter are internal [where the fourth dimension is - and also even higher dimensions] ...
The fact that consciousness is a subjective trans-dimensional bridge linking many realms, explains why shamanic states cannot be measured in three-dimensional terms; although our imagined protocols may be in some sense "objective," it is impossible to objectify the consciousness trying to measure itself by them! It is precisely because consciousness is multi-dimensional that it is inaccessible to adequate measurement in this dimension.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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We're not entirely in the energy of the belt - but, the Australians, Chinese, Native Americans & many other cultures share the same prediction. Maybe Germany will be skipped over Haha.
I am not the one, who waits another 100 years to predicted things become true. The observed history has shown that apocalyptic claims had never been reached and only were set into the more future.
Also, Blue Coyote I think the communications between Gods wax and wane a lot because of the distractions for so many of us not leading a monastic life.
I think, not only monks will please the demands of G*d, because I believe in a G*d of loving life. But some contemplation is surely nescessary if you contact the spirits in a 'objective' way. But even monks should never forget to love the life.
Bare with me a little
sure, I love to do.
- and no this is not induced from LSD. I can see how some people could get visuals from that type of tryptamine that just stick around or thought loops but I'm flexible and pliable man and ready to keep this Earth safe and evolving
Ok, you told us, you use another chemical substance in combination, too. I hope that's not everything about inducing your 'state'.
(wink wink stem cell research is good wink wink we need it.)
 You will care for all the malformed and struggling creatures that will arise ? You will care for all the slavery-profits some unscrupulous financiers will get out the resource of 'life'. Not even to speak of the meaning of the words: 'I created you, now your life is in my hand'
Society is not ready for this, by far.
I just meditate deeply and listen. You have to take the good with the bad though - the Gods will kick your ass for nights on end about what you need to clean up about your life and then, only when your worthy will come back to check on ya maybe.
I don't know, if you speak to me now, but I consider my self not in a relation of many Gods. I am selected from the one and only true G*d, and am living within his holy void.
But I made meetings with some of the other lower ones. Some helpers of him, some just true betrayers. So I am happy to stay in his excellent and ultimate void, not to get bothered by the minors anymore
I just caused a commotion because I was ready to end this ridiculous gov't so I'm able to get interviewed and brutilized a little more than the next man. They were driving me crazy as well as LEO having this thing in my head so I even started to result to psychic means to get this power and get motherfuckers out of my way.
For that, what they have done to you, I would love to know, that you have some real real proof. Proof can break their neck, if used well against them.
Now I just want to make sure the cabinet listens properly and I receive more healing abilities and power from the Gods.
Keep adressing the 'right' ones.
[...]I'm not power hungry or looking to make life harder- only better and more unified to get everyonbe the resources they need- if you work with me. I'm not asking for money because, after cutting the military spending worldwide, I want the power back in the hands of the people.
I believe you that and...
Later I might put up a site to donate 50 cents to help me have a suitable domain when my wife is pregnant with Baby Jesus.
I wouldn't be the last for supporting you, if some of your claims of your 'status' could be proven and didn't sound like some strong blasphemic pretentiousness.
I'll die for you to protect this Earth. For now I need to do some more cleaning up of this planet & get rdy for Vajrasattva to come down. There are great new technologies for excess landfills, helping our atmosphere and getting free energy (utilities) for peoples homes as well as free fuel for their cars.
Nevertheless, I thank you for replying to me and I wish you good luck and the protection of your 'Gods' onto your mission. It will revelate, if you are one of the important spirits upon this tiny and holy playground, called earth.
I ever will demand proves upon anybodies spiritual claims. To not anybody gets stuck in fantasyworld and bring it out for real.
For all the good
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: BlueCoyote]
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No being created all the Heavens and the planets. It couldn't happen with with just one humanoid that you portray. I'm not ruling out that there are super Gods who've even out-evolved some of our Gods.
So, maybe some entity is capable of creating a branch of the multi-verse by someow redirecting massive energy and matter through the hugest of wormholes with lots of DNA goodies. Or just made with thoughts in the spirit world and doesn't take that much energy to create worlds of bliss and share fun times with Gods and Goddesses. For lack of a better analogy, like creating your own game level in Neverwinter Nights for friends to play on and enjoy. That would be an amazing state of evolution I would love to witness).
My spiritual path is just beginning to gain momentum again & I only want to be a support for this world. Maybe I can get a chance to take a positive rebirth to help people. Speaking to the Christians and Jews who are afraid to spell God here. You're pretty much speaking to one now as well. Call me Adam. I'm just playing sometimes I get a little ahead of myself.
So - we don't think there's a strong probability that there's just one creator of all this universe we observe. Not one person & not in seven days. The higher probablility was that Jehovah was lying to all of you and we had an interrogation - and he got so pissed & started to believe in his own mortality even as a God and worried that we would hunt him so he died & took a Demonic rebirth. Also jailed and controlled like Satan is.
Before us of course was a "big bang", which was proven,(and may have been a smaller "bang" from another huger one - also we could be living in a "pulsating" universe that expands and contracts and will turn into a "big crunch" that you may have heard about). It could be many things but the evidence is pointing in NO way to a guy that created this in 7 days. Sorry to have to get so rudimentary very quickly but we've discovered that the Hubble "red shift" (originally had blue shift doh!) we see in the skies occurs because the universe is expanding and the stars & galaxies are moving away from us.
Now, doesn't it seem absurd that a guy made some sort of "puppet theater" that's not moving at screaming speeds through space? The only way we're surving comfortably as humans is our insanely sophisticated human body/mind with vast protocols of DNA to keep a balance. It's interesting in optometry that says the human eye is best suited for the color of our sun's wavelength of yellow. So, it's our sophisticated organs and organisms that have been built from thousands of years of evolution that got us & the Gods to this point. Man evolves constantly into Gods, God/Jehovah did not create man. Rarely, an animal will take a real nice rebirth as a God (something nice like it was enjoying a wonderful sunset or just a deep love for it's surroundings and family and just died so serenely.) We can do that too if we're given a chance to have peaceful deaths in hospitals (just with less noise and some white noise or soft music.) That's a very important thing for a society as well as praying for our friends and deceased ancestors. Even if they've taken a rebirth by now it's good to share that deep love and connection in the spirit world.
Lastly - many doctors, scientists & I agree that abortion should be illegal, but after one-month & a half when the soul is believed to enter the body (and that coincides with the exact day --47th-- of pregnancy that the first signs of the pineal gland appear). Many don't believe that's just a coincidence so I rule that any UN country is allowed to perform abortions up to the 45th day. Two days ahead of the 47th day to play it safe. Not only do many Western doctors believe this to be true but many medical traditions in the East believe the soul enters the body at that time.
I may chill on the boards for a while because I don't want to drive people away and maybe I will go to Shroomism's new boards that he created for World Peace and other cool stuff.
The more I read of the cool idea that there's even a God associated with shrooms & Gods and Titans are among us on these boards (even just through humans typing as Avatars.) I want to just share my love & pay my respects by not hurting this board and it's safety in any way. Long live humans & their symbiotic friends the magic mushrooms. I'll be back & around probably later next week - you know I love these boards
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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I surely dont refer or portrait a human as G*d. Nobody ever could write/catch/spell her/his/its name, nor describe him/her/it in a perfect way. Those who saw a glimpse of his 'face' almost get insane and it's totally impossible to grasp him completely by human brain and spirit. Humans only can get a very small notion of him if they are really strong believers. It/she/it is at the top of the tops and she/it/he is the uppermost cause of every- and anything, which makes mono- poly- and pantheism a complete descending truth.
You should contemplate about this.
ehm...and it's 'red-shift'
And don't wait until a rebirth to do good... Live is too short.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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I've seen my best friend cry in the 11th dimension today...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: cybrbeast]
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DXM I believe has a super-evolved entity associated with it. Some argue that it's a God that calls himself Jesustussin. Anyway, the Dextroverse board is awesome. Before I take a break to check on the Army I'd like to make sure I'm clear about apologizing for the comment about "sending you back to death" if you take a demonic rebirth during this Kingdom of Shambala event. I was being overzealous and it's YOU who are the ultimate judge at the moment of death. You're the judge & the accused.
It's difficult to describe but many of us have felt that experience when having a "life review" during a bad trip or a near death experience. At that point it's very hard to not see both the bad & good you've done. It rocks you sometimes in a way that bar brawls won't & those who get up from it and dust themselves off will triumph (or have a more likely chance of seeing the radiance of the true nature of mind at death) and become a God. It doesn't matter if you are the cleanest of monks in a temple experiencing an afterlife or a dirty old bum in New York - everyone can attain a God-like rebirth if they just listen and let go during the afterlife with a good thought.
The important thing to remember, and often the hardest, is to live & die with no regret - that will help you greatly to create & enjoy (or enter someone's already created Heaven Realm.) I'm still not sure exactly how it works - but maybe you gotta "get in the club" and live in other Gods' thought complexes and belief systems first before you start making your own or - well I still really don't know how it works in the imaginal realm. I know it's starting to maybe sound grim but I just honor this quote by Siddhartha Buddha "Of all the footprints the elephant's is the greatest, and of all the meditations, that on death is the greatest." So we can be alive, be truly alive. =) of course this is b4 they unearthed the dinosaur footprints but the lesson is timeless.
How you act & behave in life will be the same in death - with all your same behaviors, thoughts & memories & anyone (from all walks of life) has the chance to attain this Godhood if they have just one good thought about a spiritual connection or a loved one - which is much easier said than done. As I mentioned before, it's difficult like realizing your dreaming when sleeping but it's even harder in the afterlife. So, you'll review your lifetime for approximately 47 days (exactly the amount of time the zygote is in the womb - like I mentioned before). At that point it is believed the soul enters the human body - that's the closest we got (with scientific proof & the link of the pineal gland and behaviors of what we would call "soul activity"-- the pineal is very important for both communications with Gods and Astral Traveling).
During the afterlife - when your life is reviewed by you in living color and all the reverberations it caused and the people who were hurt by you - even when you didn't know it or were actually trying to help. Also, you'll see all the good because of you & and the people you helped or loved or simply smiled at one day.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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I somehow doubt that if you were meant to be the leader of the world that you would happen across these boards. Its possible but incredibly unlikely.
Also, you mentioned people being afraid to spell "God". I can't speak for Jews and Christians because I am neither, but me personally, I simply don't care to use that word. From my studies, I found that the word "God" originated from the Canaanites, and it actually referred to statues which they worshipped. I refuse to worship anything that I can create or destroy, that makes no sense to me. The word "God" has nothing to do with the Most High Creator of Earth and Mankind at all. There are many "Gods", but the Most High Creator is not a "God", he is ABOVE and BEYOND the "Gods".
The word "God" has become so entrenched in everyday speech since the Canaanites originated the word that this is mostly all the world knows. It makes me laugh when I see Christians and the Government fighting over the "God" in schools issue and things like that. If they only studied history better, they would learn that the word actually has no important value to their beliefs. So much time and energy is being wasted everyday on nonsense that could all be avoided if people would just challenge their own beliefs rather than becoming imprisoned by them. Its a shame when one doesn't even realize that they are imprisoned....
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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I have my women to massage me and provide acupuncture so we can really get this world jumping off.
Good news. Hopefully they don't shy away from your dick - so you can be most comfortable in your business!
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Robotics can be a great ally for human evolution. We may need to impose more strict regulations or send the real robotic science (and the attempts at making human-like AI) to Mars. That may provide a safeguard in case some are ever programmed to be militant or take over. There's no way to fully get robots off this planet now anyway - robotics are in everything from medical robotic surgical arms to bomb-squad robots (well, they're really more like RC units but they look enough like a robot.)
As far as Western (Allopathic) medicine is concerned: Iatrogenic disease is at an all time high (a disease you contract from the "therapy" of your doctor. Iatros means physician in Greek, and -genic, meaning induced by, is derived from the International Scientific Vocabulary. Combined, of course, they become iatrogenic, meaning physician-induced.
Each day, hundreds of medical discoveries are published in internationally recognized scientific journals. Only a few of these life-saving findings are ever made available to patients. The result is that people suffer and die while effective therapies already exist to alleviate or cure their condition. One reason for this travesty is that today's physicians are overwhelmed with a crushing burden of bureaucracy and patient load. Hurried doctors cannot possibly keep up with the abundance of new information bursting out of the scientific arena.
Physician ignorance and apathy has created a hostile backlash that is motivating a growing number of Americans to turn away from conventional medicine.
Meditation is a great supplement to any health care therapy. Also, those looking for an alternative to meditation if they find it frustrating or difficult I suggest the ancient art of Chi Kung. One practice that is particularly useful is the Microcosmic Orbit. This dynamic Tao meditation starts in the belly, flows up the spine and down the chest. It creates an "energy wheel" that unifies the body's three major centers (similar to yogic "chakras") AND all of the acupuncture meridians of your body. It is also known as "Opening the Golden Flower" and "Embryo or Womb Breathing."
When your Orbit opens, your Original Spirit can begin to breathe more easily in your body. Your vital organs get fed, and every level of your physical being feels healthy & grounded. It's practical -- many people spontaneously quit smoking or stop obsessing about food or drugs. When you are fed inside, you stop seeking stimulants outside.
Feeling connected with your heart smiling and chi (energy) flowing while standing in line at the grocery store, walking the dog, or talking to your in-laws. If you thought meditation was boring or frustrating, this offers a fresh start!
On the subject of our neighbors who originally colonized the earth. At a time before an ice age happened (one of many)and before the Elohim arrived with DNA. Also, when we mention DNA that is brought to Earth, that doesn't mean some prokaryotes and eukaryotes and other simple organisms. I mean they came down and made humans, wolves, evolved fish & other species that are way up on the "tree" of that cool triple-amino acid code that's superior to the binary language. Though, the Elohim could only take their evolution so far by tinkering and messing with nature by genetically modifying themselves to live 600 years (like the original Adam and Eve did who were created by the Elohim.) They both lived super long - same with the leader of the Elohim race Yahweh - he's like 900 years old but it's not the original guy who originally inhabited his body, the original soul of the first one named Yahweh. The memory cells were intact with the new brain they created from their "matter machines" to make a new body exactly like the old but much younger. So, with the memory cells intact the dude acts and talks just like the old Yahweh but the soul is of someone else. The matter machines simply need a cell of your DNA and can completely replicate a person's body and brain completely. It still needs that animating force, or at least some "software" uploaded to it with a "purpose." Their science might be able to animate a person to do their menial chores or cram info through their computer systems - but I think we have something greater here on Earth, and that's an enormous opportunity to take a heavenly rebirth if we're born here as humans.
There are many great spiritual teachers, scientists, lovers, fighters & I'm proud our way has superceded the Elohim - we're no longer kept in the dark by them about science and space travel (as the Elohim crushed many rebellions here on Earth when we simply wanted to evolve to a comfortable level and thrive like any being does.) They would keep setting us back to primitive technological states and force us to serve them fresh fruit, all the while writing in their lame space journals how amusing it is that "they actually mistake us for Gods and worship us". But, it wasn't funny when they killed many humans with nuclear holocausts.
Their kind keeps making new bodies for their elders to attempt to enter upon dying, but when they die I still think their soul is cast into a field of universal energy that makes it very hard to simply enter the little blue body of their choice. That time in the afterlife is confusing to say the least and, if they can somehow reincarnate into the new "body" made for them, that'll impress me greatly and maybe there's hope for them to lead a spiritual life too. But, why were they worrying about their "DNA project" coming back to kill them if they claimed that "any sentient beings who make it to the stars are peaceful because they solved this and that problem on their home planet." Well, as much as I'd like to think so - there are some strange aliens lurking around and some are even just bred to be killers (i.e. The God Ryuken's race of "The Grey" over there on Venus). I mean, why did the Elohim feel the need to use sonic and nuclear weapons on us if they were so superior with their cloning/reincarnations (which they call immortality - but, they're more like the "walking dead" compared to us.
While they cheat death, none of their species take a superior form as incorporeal spirits who can be vastly more intelligent & energy efficient than 3-dimensional beings. Emphasis on energy efficient. Although the Elohim planet is huge and they have something like 11 billion beings, we have less space, more souls & something more important - traditions of balance & adhering to the laws of the universe & "listening" to our inner voices (which are turning out to be highly evolved entities talking to us & not just some "inner voice"). Though sometimes that "wise voice" in your head can be your own - sometimes you can channel the deepest power & wisdom of your soul even here in the middle world & become God-like before entering Heaven.
Back to the original DNA innoculators of earth who still lurk in this solar system and rule us somewhat. Some of our shaman have encountered these masters and what was reported:
Now I was virtually certain I was about to die. As I tried to accept my fate, an even lower portion of my brain began to transmit more visions and information. I was "told" that this new material was being presented to me because I was dying and therefore "safe" to receive these revelations. These were the secrets reserved for the dying and the dead, I was informed. I could only very dimly perceive the givers of these thoughts: giant reptilian creatures reposing sluggishly at the lowermost depths of the back of my brain, where it met the top of the spinal column. I could only vaguely see them in what seemed to be gloomy, dark depths.
Then they projected a visual scene in front of me. First they showed me the planet Earth as it was eons ago, before there was any life on it. I saw an ocean, barren land, and a bright blue sky. Then black specks dropped from the sky by the hundreds and landed in front of me on the barren landscape. I could see that the "specks" were actually large, shiny, black creatures with stubby pterodactyl-like wings and huge whale-like bodies. Their heads were not visible to me. They flopped down, utterly exhausted from their trip, resting for eons. They explained to me in a kind of thought language that they were fleeing from something out in space. They had come to the planet earth to escape their enemy.
The creatures then showed me how they had created life on the planet in order to hide within the multitudinous forms and thus disguise their presence. Before me, the magnificence of plant and animal creation and speciation - hundreds of millions of years of activity - took place on a scale and with a vividness impossible to describe. I learned that the dragon-like creatures were thus inside of all forms of life, including man. They were the true masters of humanity and the entire planet, they told me. We humans were but the receptacles and servants of these creatures. For this reason they could speak to me from within myself....
I was afraid that somehow my soul might.... through processes unknown but felt and dreaded, be aquired or reaquired by the dragon-like denizens of the depths. I suddenly felt my distinctive humanness, the contrast between my species and the ancient reptilian ancestors..."
-From Michael Harner's The Way of the Shaman
This shamanic desciption of an inner perceptual dimension inhabited by Archon-like entities is pure gnosticism - humans are the "receptacles and servants" of archetypal forces which are personified in Harner's consciousness as dragons. Interestingly enough, these beings dwell in that section of his brain which meets "the top of the spinal column," a precise description of the so-called "Reptilian Complex," the most primitive part of the brain, which is associated with aggressive animal behavior.
In light of modern research, Jung's original concept of archetypes (also referred to as a "spiritual goal") is needlessly complex, and less useful than the more "primitive" notion of extra-dimensional entities, the gods and demons of classical mythology. Jung himself was apparently prepared to consider this hypothesis - - from Jung's Letters:
I once discussed the proof of identity for a long time with a friend... He admitted that, all things considered, all these metaphysic phenomena could be explained better by the hypothesis of spirits than by the qualities and peculiarities of the unconscious. And here, on the basis of my own experience, I am bound to concede he is right. In each individual case I must of necessity be skeptical, but in the long run I have to admit that the spirit hypothesis yields better results in practice than any other.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Now when the bardo of dying dawns upon me,
I will abandon all grasping, yearning and attachment,
Enter undistracted into clear awareness of the teaching,
And eject my consciousness into the space of unborn Rigpa;
As I leave this compound body of flesh and blood
I will know it to be a transitory illusion.
At the moment of death, there are two things that count:
Whatever we have done in our lives, and what state if mind we are
in at that moment. Even if we have accumulated a lot of negative
karma, if we are able really to make a change of heart at the moment of death, it can decisively influence our future and transform our karma, for the moment of death is an exceptionally powerful opportunity for purifying karma.
If we die in a positive frame of mind, we can improve our next birth,
despite our negative karma. And if we are upset and distressed, it
may have a detrimental effect, even though we may have used our
lives well. This means that the last thought and emotion that we
have before we die has an extremely powerful determining effect on
our immediate future.
Just as the mind of a mad person is usually entirely occupied by one obsession, which returns again and again, so at the moment of death our minds are totally vulnerable and exposed to whatever thoughts then preoccupy us. That last thought or emotion we have can be magnified out of all proportion and flood our whole perception. This is why the masters stress that the quality of the atmosphere around us when we die is crucial. With our friends and relatives,m we should do all we can to inspire positive emotions and sacred feelings, like love, compassion, and devotion, and all we can to help them to let go of grasping, yearning, and attachment.
The ideal way for a person to die is having given away everything,
internally and externally, so that there is as little possible yearning,
grasping, and attachment.
The Earth is not coming to an end. I give this spiritual help for the dying because we've been doing this for thousands of lifetimes & reincarnations. We might as well get abreast of this information now. Maybe some of you know a person with a terminal illness who may need some love and support in their life.
In Tibet the masters, before they would leave their bodies, would indicate what they would like to offer to other teachers. Sometimes a master who was intending to reincarnate in the future would leave a particular group of objects for his reincarnation, giving a clear indication of what he wanted to leave. I am convinced that we should also be exact about who is going to receive our possessions or our money. These wishes should be expressed as lucidly as possible. If they are not, then after you die you may see your relatives squabbling over your goods or misusing your money, and this will disturb you.
Sometimes people should bear in mind that the mere presence of loved ones may invoke strong feelings of attachment in the dying person, which make it harder than ever for him or her to let go. Sometimes this may be extremely difficult for families to understand... Cry together, express your love, and say goodbye, but try to finish with the process before the actual moment of death arrives. If possible, its best if friends and relatives do not show excessive grief at the moment of death, because the consciousness of the dying person is at that moment exceptionally vulnerable. The Tibetan Book of the Dead says that your crying and tears around a person's bedside are experienced like thunder and hail. But don't worry if you have found yourself weeping at a deathbed; it can't be helped, and there is no reason to upset yourself and to feel guilty.
As I said, I'm trying to have us meditate on the process of dying briefly to elucidate the point about truly appreciating life - and having compassion, respect & love for those suffering on this planet we share. We will unite. It's time to really let the balanced and loving energy reign over this planet for a while and not have our technology or evolution set back any further by the alien Elohim & Bush Jr.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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There's a bioelectrical route that can be completed by placing the tongue to the roof of the mouth. I say this to warn people sometimes of building too much heat in their heads when using techniques like kundalini yoga. People have reported the top of their hair turning white and just too much heat and stuck energy is burning it up. Like I was telling the guys in the other thread - that doesn't attract the ladies too much with a big skunked-out white patch in a ring on the top of your head.
Thanks for posting that picture though. It's helping to set the mood and I couldn't have gotten this far without so many of you - I'm sorry to sound so arrogant at times. I'm trying to get us ready for a wonderful spiritual revolution and we may have to confront fears and do some real purification work on our karma. One of the greatest practices to help - and get us prepared here in the West to confront the subject of death and dying more openly - is the ancient art of phowa. Then we can get a deeper understanding that death is just a part of life and consciousness doesn't end so it's part of an unbroken cycle or flux of life. It's when you take this knowledge & use it to harm people that your karma get's messed up more than not knowing you're harming and not being greedy - even when politicians order murders & don't have to see the outcome of families being slain from their money - that's when there's hell to pay and you should be afraid. Because you'll have to confront it in the afterlife and all the people you hurt by killing the families and the grief of all their loved ones.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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P H O W A
Now when the bardo of dharmata dawns upon me,
I will abandon all fear and terror,
I will recognize whatever appears as the display of my
own Rigpa,
and know it to be the natural appearance of this bardo;
Now that I have reached this crucial point,
I will not fear the peaceful and wrathful deities, that arise
from the nature of my very own mind
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Yea, for BB posts they get long. Consider it like an e-pamphlet. If it's too much for you maybe your Mom could read it as a bedtime story. LOL Anyway, I do help the community and donate money worldwide (not just dropping bombs with these posts to help this world - I mean that in a good way with bombs for people who are unaware of street language these days). I'm glad I could use my reputation to help me gain this power - but I'm really a nice guy if you get to know me!
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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I mentioned earlier that DXM I believe has a super-evolved entity associated with it. A guy from the Dextroverse helped me with that one:
Of course. This "entity" goes most commonly by the Name Set. He is also known by the names Odhinn, Pan, Shiva, Krsna, 'Shade', etc. He's quite an Amazing Individual. You should talk to Him sometime.
Thanks The Dark Phoenix
Damnit LOL. I know "Shade" a little bit but didn't he was also the JesusTussin entity. I've been talking to him because he & Lord Vajrasattva were sometimes wrathful entities. Because I asked them, is there a full spectrum of deities and some, like humans are nice at times, but when you piss them off they can go crazy and even do some killing? They reply by saying Yes and the name before our Lord Vajrasattva's name [Heruka] I believe means "wrathful". But, he is the God of karma and on our side now to help Earth. When I asked him to come down to rule as king for a while it's because we really need to have like a spiritual "boot camp" around here. No one will be forced to do anything or worship specific religion - but, we're gonna need to stop being lax about letting corruption, ignorance and greed seep into our economic and political structures.
Everything was beginning to fall like a deck of cards and so we needed the last biblical prophet - the second coming of Adam. There will be many other chapters in the Earth's histories. But, maybe just consider this the latest of Testaments by one that was really there in the spirit world ruling with Jehovah and then things fell apart -- at least for me. I felt betrayed when he killed me and I was beginning to ask that, although he was massively powerful, why lie and say you created Earth and all of the Universe and Heaven and no other life forms around our "block" in this sector - which we're finding is bursting with life like many other galaxies are. He couldn't have created all of the Heavens and massive universe that is "smaller than an electron & contains uncountable galaxies."
Now that many great spirits & gods are visiting the planet and all the planets of the seven sisters and us (the eighth) I believe are aligning - another ancient prophecy from many of Earth's traditions including the Chinese, the Australians, modern day Americans even, and Native Americans.
We can most likely travel those super-highways of light and have love and bliss greater than our human "container" bodies can feel. There's no rush though like I said, I'm just getting my shaman and priests aware and realize that you can also be messengers to spread this word so we don't fail at letting any evil entities seep back in and rule the Earth with darkness. And I'm not just talking about the US gov't.
I asked Shade several times to stop messing around in the Middle East & please just go rule the Elohim's large planet to make them aware of extra-dimensional entities and kick their ass a little to prepare my throne over their. As you can see, I have scores to settle but only love for humans and just have to settle this with the Elohim and Jehovah. I'll rule the Elohim planet after I die here - I may take one of their human bodies and have my disciples bring my meditation and Rife healing machine. I also may just stay here for the bliss of Shambala but I don't want to upset many people who still don't like me for sure & it's understandable.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Thanks for the PM though about the upcoming shift in the Earth's vibrations & energy level. It always strikes a chord with me if something is also proven scientifically (and then we have the shaman telling us something big is happening.)
Photon energy is like saying "light" energy and it is believed that, from the other side of the fabric of space, dark matter or energy is somehow blasted out the other side in the form of photons or light. There are websites about it and I'll try to send you some links when I go check for the authentic ones. You might be able to tell too - but the ones that are quoting sources from worldwide beliefs would be a good place to start because that seems pretty open minded. But, some could try to weave in that there's gonna be something bad happen or an apocalypse. I've never seen that because all the other ones were from people who really believed this will be a great shift in our evolution.
Maybe some of you can explain it here better on this dynamic forum - which I think is a nice way to communicate Heaven's messages & also making speeches is fun too.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: 777]
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I believe Heaven is a state of mind that each and every human can share and it is on earth along with hell which actually has the same definition of heaven but one state of mind is stable and productive(love, happiness) while the other is unstable and destructive (hate, sadness). Everyone experiences heaven and hell and thank creation that we do not experience hell in extremes of extremes (while some may feel they do).
Heaven is composed of necessity: food, shelter, health, education, sex, and some drugs in moderation. All these aspects of heaven can be obtained through currency. Someone who wants to bring everyone to heaven first needs to obtain currency.
Power equals Knowledge to get money for now and once the money aspect is achieved a strong political representative is needed to develop as well. To acquire voters (he, she) must have something about themselves that every person can relate, or feel the same way. Expressing love to everybody around them. A field of music that can express ideas could also benefit.
To finish off my little excerpt from my mind, I would like to explain that you must be cunning, deceptive, and philisophical in every decision made to your duties because not everyone has a vision for the future as we.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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A great Feng Shui master talks about how his art (painting) helps and he is a doctor also:
...manifested from original sensations and subconscious feelings. They are images beheld by my third eye - -the eye of awareness that opens when one is in deep meditation or when one communes with divine power and sees the world on spiritual dimensions.
Ancient mantra diagrams are often integrated into my work to invoke energizing effects. Mantra diagrams are charms made of specific signs and symbols based on cosmic frequencies that were recorded, charted and studied by ancient sages (which create the basis for the Yi-Jing). These paintings can help everyone sensitive to their condition, release stress, create a loving home, increase business fortune and ultimately, help us reach our fullest potential. My purpose is to help mankind overcome physical and mental disease, ignorance, negative karma and the many levels of suffering that occur when we have lost connection to our spiritual energy.
-- Grand Master Chi-Jen Liu
Now I've bought paintings from this man & received wonderful advice concerning placement in my home to have a harmonius environment.
The "Wealth" painting with fish being caught and dragons swimming through the clouds is awesome and has helped to increase my fortune. But, feng shui is as much about symbolism as it is about placement. I've made adjustments in my home to help with my kids and changed colors to sooth their brilliant minds.
Another great talisman I bought from him is a 5-tier windchime (but you have to make sure they're these hollow metal chimes & it's hanged over my stove to double my fortune.) There are many, many other areas of your life you can help with this ancient art of energy work. Sex - just to name a fun area of peoples' lives- can be helped. Your "sex life" I mean & your ability to attract a nice smart & sexy mate.
I'm aquarius & recently the age of aquarius had begun. My Dragon sign enables me to take this power and command the greatest army the world has seen. Please take a look at this picture because it is instilled with mantras and other powerful means for us to gain this power & help change the world:
IT 'S CALLED POWERFUL PLANETS UNITE !
Pls click on it though if you have time...
It's cool that the feng shui master has this ability to see the spirit world so well. I mean, drugs are a great catalyst but it would be cool to have this ability all the time. Or at least several times a week while creating art. Some botanists and entheogen experimenters / drug users can also get to these levels - so I love talking to both of you and many other people and their paths that reach similar heights. This feng shui grandmaster also spends a lot of time doing feng shui consultations & and his daughter Jenny is even a true master.
They're very rich, very healthy & very happy (and help others live that way with their powerful 8,000 year old practice) and I think it's just a wonderful way of life, very attuned to the Tao. Not to mention power and political pull in their community over there in Cali -- and also being humble as to not arouse jealously or envy.
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Well, that's a good idea - what would you suggest is a good currency for me to have for us to enter heaven? Seriously, I like to hear your ideas. Because sometimes the currency evil people use is a dangerous game of stealing human blood (energy) and human mutilations that alien technology uses to suck the blood out of a carcass.
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All these aspects of heaven can be obtained through currency. Someone who wants to bring everyone to heaven first needs to obtain currency.
The super-evolved Dak Zhin - - dragon's with pterodactyl-like wings - - are happy to have some trichomes and will keep us protected while our neighbors on Jupiter travel with us through this photon belt event. Yea, even the Grey will be going through this - maybe they can be great allies some day if they're interested and intelligent enough to join the inter-stellar alliance.
Yes, sometimes the currency is simply faith & maybe we can get many people to help heal this planet and get it ready with me. Love, and the vibrations that come with that will help to heal these people from the poisoning the Earth has experienced through pollution and materialism.
Also to help healing, I want to honor the national Tai Chi day and extend the event to anyone who wants to send out healing waves of energy through this form of Chi Kung martial arts weekly as a worship. That way more healing energy waves will be available and I can try to offer this blessing to make it a full-blown religion worldwide.
All that talk about human sacrifices and taking the heart out to offer to a warlike God is true & they're able to somehow get energy from those offerings - - and the energy people bring to the gatherings really I guess is important to some of these extra-dimensional entities. Please just understand that there will be more police to help keep peace for a while but not "in your face" because we'll have all our military men and women home & feel secure again without Bush.
More police will monitor psychic activity and halt of the beginnings of militias - especially in the United States now that people may come for an assasination while I'm protecting the planet - mainly from the skies & talk to alien intelligences to negotiate peace and alliances. We'll not pursue the Elohim with warcraft like the American Gov't did earlier this century. We've decided to end the War on Drugs (concerning hemp/marijuana & the non-addictive drugs mentioned in the TIKHAL & PIKHAL books by Shulgin ...
this war they waged against us civilians. Hemp is now hereby legalized by the World Government and, following the presidential election - I will decide whether or not I'll force America to decriminalize marijuana up to 100 grams.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Panoramix]
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I'm glad to be talking to you guys because some botanists and cultivators don't even take drugs that much - and aren't so preoccupied with an addiction of some sort. Also, doing some spiritual work when high is fun or just kicking back & getting laid, sitting by a fire or walking through a garden. However, I believe that addiction and its consequences are the most serious health problem now facing our society. Cardiovascular disease, respiratory illnesses such as emphysema, many forms of cancer, and AIDS are just a few of the conditions that derive, directly or indirectly, from addiction.
Many believe that your "cleansing" during a trip is directly proportional to how much your body needs to clean out when taking drugs (like mescaline.. but many others in the typtamine family are reported to do this.) So, some of these guys can eat peyote buttons like chips or candy while many of us are puking our guts out. In conclusion, it's not always the drugs that are making a person ill - it's the unpleasant cleansing process on the start of the journey (or throughout the whole journey...who knows how much cleansing is needed.)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2958188 - 08/02/04 08:55 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cleansing eh?
I here a good hot water flush up the bum will do the trick.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2958202 - 08/02/04 09:03 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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space dragon,why no replys to my PMs?I'm not sure if i'm starting to smell something.....
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: tnecseda]
#2966198 - 08/04/04 09:02 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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11 pages and you can't already?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Adom]
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I dont think spacedragon is lying, I honestly believe he's being possessed by higher forces.
I'll be honest, in this life I've seen some amazing things, even posting a hint at them would have Swami on my ass like......well.....yea believe me I wont go there.
All in all, this guy isnt crazy, nor is he lying. He's just got something telling him these things ...wether its internal or external, its still very real....some entity (or entities) are feeding him all this nonsense.
Some of the stuff he is saying are half-truths.....some things make no sense...and a few things were even dead on.
As a whole though, its not useful information, as information Jesus Christ would give...or a Buddha, or ghandi even. Its more a bunch of nonsense mixed with some good info all together.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: supermarket]
#2978818 - 08/08/04 03:48 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'd be the first to POST loud & clear that this was starting to seem like bullshit. One really cool thing Einstein said when asked how he felt about the book entitled "99 scientists against Einstein" he said "Why 99 - if 1 could prove me wrong then that would suffice."
I do post some teachings that would seem to make no sense without a foundation in a spiritual tradition - I'm just trying to give a nice cliff notes version now in case the energy shifts start to become more intense on Earth (or, hopefully not, if the internet goes down or the energy grids).
Which, I'm sure won't happen but I want to cram as much as I can in this experimental way of spreading the message. I've been on many sites and many people are starting to feel that worship of nature or the Tao is going to be very powerful when preparing to become a God.
If the US gov't wants to backlash and somehow ban religion or drugs harder, we should be ready to fight back.
I'm fed a lot of threats and lies because I was an evil God. So, just so you know I'm not lying at all on purpose - at times Vajrasattva and Shade get a kick out of screwing with my head. But, I also talk regularly to Lord Jesus, Padmasambhava, Gaia, Jehovah and the many others I conjured for my salvation. I said "just do it now and kill me then" & don't make me lie to the people or steer Earth into any calamity. You'll find that many of the statements are very true & some are prophecies of future events to happen.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Adom]
#2978967 - 08/08/04 04:44 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Guys,
Don't head over to the church of satan please. This post is in reguards to another message board post -- but I thought I'd make this loud and clear:
You know how I feel about christian churches right? I feel the same way about any ridiculous organized religions. They're probably an offshoot of all the Christian mythical theology & we've already shown that aliens named the Elohim were in charge of Jesus' teachings along with the Archon Jehovah. Those organized churches are not very helpful for looking deep inside and becoming a peaceful warrior yourself. Some are entirely money making schemes as we can see clearly when they can't hide their large corporate buildings.
Might I suggest a meditation class, preferably buddhist, to get centered and realize your potential - as well as a kung fu, aikido, yoga, chi gung, or t'ai chi class.
I want all of you to look into Rife healing machines and alternate forms of weapons to protect yourselves when the barrier breaks open some more. Many of the entities that come through or project themselves holographically, with their insanely advanced technologies, will be able to affect things in our realm. We will also be able to wield more spiritual power and psychic power. I'm sorry to let it get out of hand like this. I want to stand along side you & make sure the gov'ts don't try to hold us back any longer - while angels and hell hounds start making their way into the Earth's 3d world. We're also experiencing a time where it's becoming easier to become a God and join on the peaceful gods' side to help our Earth stop suffering. Easier because of both the energy vibrations being raised here & our access to more information outside of what our wonderful human body's DNA provides (extra-genetic information as Carl Sagan put it.)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2978968 - 08/08/04 04:45 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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so um yea,why no replys man?
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All you will need to know through this -
PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2978992 - 08/08/04 04:58 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I thought I did reply to you. Maybe I did today. Anyway, sorry it took me a while to get back.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2979036 - 08/08/04 05:21 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I hear many of you are taking these teachings and gaining new heights. Some people have decided to go back to their monotheism because I'm not the most eloquent speaker Lol.
Many of you already know that antibiotics can do nothing for a virus. Luckily, we just stopped administering them in the West for viral infections. I mentioned earlier that an Indian doctor discovered anti-biotic substances that are released from healthy intestinal flora known as Acidophilus. When a human has healthy intestinal colonies of "good" or beneficial bacteria they can produce B-vitamins and release an antibiotic-like substance known as acidophilin. This seems superior to an antibiotic program, unless it's a very advanced condition - but the drawback is always the wiping out of the good bacteria with anti-biotics and chemo. I implore that you look into "probiotics" as the acidophilus and bifidus cultures are being called, (the healthy bacteria), as a supplement to any adult or child's program of anti-biotics. You can also get these healthy flora from certain yogurts.
Early this century this wasn't a problem because many of our foods weren't tampered with & the active enymes were still present as well as beneficial bacteria. Also, cooking destroys alot of these enzymes, forcing our spleens to use their energy reserves to break down our foods. I suggest taking a supplement of blue-green algae at least until you make the switch to organic, whole foods from foods grown w/steroids, hormones and yes, manure, that's fed to the cows and chicken for nutrition. Try free range chicken and beef - - they've seen the light of day and were able to run around to get energy & nutrients to their muscles. I suggest going to the health food store just for the meat and then get the rest at the regular supermarket.
A man by the name of Dr. Strickland did a study of how blue-green algae is a nutrient powerhouse (and available at all health food stores). Just look at the difference in vit B-12 assimilation in humans:
"The study showed 10 percent with Centrum and 97
percent with our [super blue-green] algae, compared to another brand algae of 50 percent
assimilation results of VitB12."
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
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I am a little bit anti-christ because he bought into an alien race's scheme to rule Earth with their technology. I heard Jesus also studied along the "silk route" near central asia and maybe went even further east. But, why didn't he stop and think that the Gods are more important to serve & follow than blue little 4-foot aliens. The Elohim dazzled him with their lasers & suits that could fly & weapons making fire was shooting out of their hands. Also, how else could he have seemingly broken Newton's law that energy can be neither being created or destroyed - what I mean is, we found out when Claud Rael stepped forward and said he was spoken to by the Elohim race- we were told that the bread Jesus supposedly mutiplied was actually dehydrated bread the Elohim had in their spaceship nearby and gave to Jesus when more people showed up than expected.
So, he mistook them for Gods as well as the archon Jehovah whispering in his ear from the Spirit Realm in cohorts with Yahweh, the leader of the Elohim alien race. They wanted everyone to worship them and serve them, leaving some other Gods pissed until the reckoning I laid upon Jehovah & sent him to a Hell Realm.
So, some say I may be the anti-christ but I'm more than that. I'll be your shaman king with both of my eyes intact and ready (even with my 3rd eye) to stop any more alien invasions & wicked gov'ts here on Earth. I need the help of my shamen and priests though but I just wanted to tell you my plan.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2979343 - 08/08/04 07:45 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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The statement about "eyes intact" was because people have said the anti-christ would have one eye missing. Well, I have 2 eyes working but I'm still only 27 so we'll see hehehe.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2979374 - 08/08/04 07:54 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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But if we observe the law of karma and awaken in ourselves the good heart of love and compassion, if we purify our mindstream and gradually awaken the wisdom of the nature of our mind, then we can become a truly human being, and ultimately enlightened.
Albert Einstein said:
A human being is part of a whole, called by us the "Universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings, as something separated from the rest - a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness. This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circles of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2979418 - 08/08/04 08:12 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Anyone honestly looking at life will see that we live in a constant state of suspense and ambiguity. Our minds are perpetually shifting in and out of confusion and clarity. If only we were confused all the time, that would at least make for some kind of clarity. What is really baffling about life is that sometimes, despite all our confusion, we can also be really wise!
This shows us what the human bardo (experience) is: a continuous, unnerving oscillation between clarity and confusion, bewilderment and insight, certainty and uncertainty, sanity and insanity. In our minds, as we are now, wisdom and confusion arise simultaneously, or, as we say, are "co-emergent." This means that we face a continuous state of choice between the two, and that everything depends on which we will choose.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2979458 - 08/08/04 08:24 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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yea i understand not replying.you stil didn't but its cool
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2979483 - 08/08/04 08:32 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I speak of innumerable worlds in different dimensions - there may even be many worlds very like, or just like ours - and several modern astrophysicists have developed theories about the existence of parallel universes. How can we possibly say definitively what does or does not exist beyond the bounds of our limited vision?
Looking at the world around us, and into our own minds, we can see that the six realms definitely do exist. They exist in the way we unconsciously allow our negative emotions to project and crystallize entire realms around us, and to define the style, form, flavor and context of our life in those realms. And they also exist inwardly as the different seeds and tendencies of the various negative emotions within our psycho-physical system, always ready to germinate and grow, depending on what influences them and how we choose to live.
The quality of life in the realm of the gods may look superior to our own, yet the masters tell us that human life is infinitely more valuable. Why? Because the very fact that we have the awareness and intelligence that are the raw materials for enlightenment, and because the very suffering that pervades this human realm is itself the spur to spiritual transformation. Pain, grief, loss and ceaseless frustration of every kind are there for a real purpose: to wake us up, to enable and almost force us to break out out of the cycle of samsara and so release our imprisoned splendor!
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To the person who suggests I am possessed. It's rare to see this clairvoyant of a master but I did make the personal breakthrough of the highest order & the stars were in my favor. Of course I'm asked by both humans & gods if I want what's best for humanity & the answer is Yes.
What kind of Archon (GOD) wants to make a person feel completely empowered & knowing all the attacks that will comes to him, fortune telling, the amount of money, when it's coming - which is my first kid I will have to bury, how many wives (7) and kids I will be having 40(ish). So, I don't think it's lies from Vajrasattva, Jarwar, Avalokiteshvara & and the Draconian God I answer to. THE 4FOUR4 are truly amazing indeed and I am their bodhisattva. There are indeed Gods but let's not forget they're a metaphor, when they manifest, for a Universal Mind they've tapped into to enjoy blissful realms or hellish realms more extremely than humans.
It's time for a real demi-god, eventually to become a god, to rule this place to bring true peace & change. To err is titan of course as well as human. But, you are teaching me so well & I'm not lying when I said I asked if Baby Jesus & Baby Buddha could be reborn in this 3-dimensional realm to teach us & give more solid signs of the majesty of Shambala. The answer is yes, and pending further negotiations - the father of at least one of them will be me.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2980416 - 08/09/04 01:56 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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to all who debunked the rife machine here is proof http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/stories/1744.asp
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2980434 - 08/09/04 02:10 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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There's this girl I like at the Dextroverse Shhh - this is the PM I sent back to her... she originally wrote me a long PM after reading my thread "Heaven is Coming to Earth" and we've been talking:
Hi,
I hope you still want to talk to me!
You seem really cool & I enjoyed your PM's before. I know I laid it on heavy to the world but it would've been worse if I went to CNN or local news stations to talk about these Eastern & Western prophecies. I had to bring it to you guys first because you can understand this & have love for your people - not just lots of nukes & guns. That doesn't impress me.
The real leaders & heroes (and heroins) of this revolution will be the peaceful warriors and clairvoyant priests. Not the controlled US soldiers who blow people away while listening to rock music & told it's just like a video game to make it even easier to blow away these poor Middle Easterners.
This is all so Bush can allow a pipeline over there and make more deals with the Saudi Arabians, who thanks to him, own vast amounts of "shares" of the US (by shares I really mean huge corporations trading on the New York Stock Exchange -
- so in essence they own a significant portion of America. These are the murderous people that Bush deals with and gets money from- while allowing jobs to be outsourced to India and letting more immigrants in from down south to take our jobs for cheaper wages.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2980443 - 08/09/04 02:18 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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mmmhmm.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: ]
#2980469 - 08/09/04 02:34 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here are some more in depth forms of Deity worship..and, again, I strongly recommend that you choose a Peaceful God if you have a propensity to live that way or want to live like that - or whatever wrath will come forth is a valid path as well. We just won't stand for it on Earth while we enter the Heaven Realms in the next few centuries.
Yet another facinating essay I thought you guys might enjoy from the Temple of Set website---TheDarkPhoenix
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"On Communication With Set---by Don Webb V?
Imagine if you will a PH.D mathematician being told that she has an hour to give her last year's research to a group of people. She composes her notes, creates and speech and walks in to find the audience composed of four year olds.
This would be Set's dilemma in interacting with us. The medium with which our hypothetical professor has to work?the language and attention span of a four year old?is not unlike the medium Set has to Work with?the contents of our minds gathered randomly through the course of our lives.
Set can communicate in the fashion of a concentrated Greater Black Magical Working, but these communications are rare and usually leave the Worker with more questions than he had before.
The last time I talked with Set he suggested that I run the Heb-Sed Working for the Temple. It took six months to research, a year to do, needed twelve articles for the Scroll of Set, caused me to found an Order in the Temple, and required that I make trips to the British Museum and then Oasis of Las Vegas. I learned a great deal about myself, the world and Temple through this?and the *real* meat of the Communication wasn't in the twenty minutes of reception of the Book of the Heb-Sed but in the processing of all that I did in the eighteen months that followed. I am still processing it, and expect that I will be throughout my earthly incarnation.
Just as an average magician may write a talisman on a piece of parchment, Set writes His talismans on certain hard-won human qualities such as Courage, Curiosity, Determination, Play, and Creativity. Just as the human magician uses his talisman to draw wealth or love into manifestation in the Objective Universe from the Unmanifest, which the profane call the Future, Set uses his talisman to draw Xeper from the Unmanifest.
Set's Purpose does not require communication. His method for Working in the Objective Universe is by providing an insight into the nature of personhood. This insight given through the medium of his Aeon is fourfold.
Firstly there is the observable fact of the Xeper of Setians. This takes years to see, but when you've seen former street people getting their Ph.D.s or average guys from Dallas re-creating the Runic tradition; you discover that the limits that you have placed on yourself are false. Average people, who have been purposeless dreamers all their lives, have learned to achieve. The Need for seeing this is why the Temple, Set's chief (but by no means only) Tool in the Aeon exists. We see other people getting better, and we know that getting better is possible. Our Bond between the Living and Dead (sometimes referred to esoterically as the Bond of the Nine Angles) is that we will in our turn become such sources of inspiration to those that come after us. Thus our biographies are Set's talismans.
Secondly there is the observable fact of the genius of your own creation. There are moments when you exerted Will and became what you are now. (Will is the process of choosing between two or more desires). You draw inspiration for future adventures based on Knowledge of your past states. This process is called Xeper = "I Have Come Into Being." Desiring more of such Knowledge the self is impelled to start new tasks. This is the source of further Will, and defines the object of that Will.
Thirdly there is the observable fact that others have used the powers of magic through out history, and gained a Victory over evil. (Let us recall that for the Setian Evil = Stupidity). By study of their methods and results we can obtain Knowledge of the nature of Set, and of *ourselves* for we are the products of such magic.
Fourthly there is the observable fact of the magic of the Aeon, which is that when sincere intelligent people get together to discuss the Ideas that feed or are fed by Xeper, the general level of brilliance goes up. That there is in fact a "quickening" of the minds involved as they benefit not only from their hard Work and the thought-provoking ideas of their fellows, but actually from an otherwise hidden force.
These methods of communication with the Prince of Darkness are much more profund and subtle than what may be experienced in the emotional aspects of the ritual chamber. Learning to Hear and Heed the Law as we can best understand it through these personal and difficult methods, is the process of Awakening to the Aeon. Facilitating these arenas is the job of the Priesthood of Set, and because of their own success with these methods they have Become Sacred to and Consecrated by the Prince of Darkness.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2980478 - 08/09/04 02:46 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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youre like the energizer bunny
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2981141 - 08/09/04 09:47 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've seen many Gods popping up here and there on the Internet over the past few years...
Good luck with Your.. ..ehmmm... ..whatever You call it!!!
P.S. Have You ever posted as "Timetravel_0" as well in some forums in the past by any chance?
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: ivi]
#2983629 - 08/09/04 08:30 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, I've never posted as Timetravel_0
I post as Angeleyes on ICQ though. I work through different forums there from medical discoveries to atheism to buddhism.
What I said about our brave soldiers over in the Middle East.. (many of whom didn't really want to fight Bush's war in the first place) I want to offer a better explanation. They deserve my respect and gratitude. No one said anything to me about it - but I was thinking about it after I posted and didn't like what I wrote. I get angered over what Bush is doing & sometimes see his army as the same entity, but they're not.
I said the stuff about fighting mindlessly because I fear the government is making it too simple to kill so many of our kind, desensitizing the soldiers (making killing even easier with joysticks like in videogames) & even telling them lies to make them still hate the enemy (when the real reason their fighting is for oil and political power it seems - not to erradicate the kingpin terrorists.) They're just not doing anything that's worth the billions of our tax money spent.
The Unmanned Arial Vehicles loaded with nukes should have been enough to take down the major thugs over there. I will not dignify many of their positions with anything other than the word thugs for now - we are beginning a new era of peace and co-operation & no longer will stand for underhanded dealings & backstabbing. The way the US gov't goes in and talks to these people is ridiculous. Trying intimidation tactics, while not even listening oftentimes to the other side, or just dishonorably siding with the opposing militia gang factions to bring whomever down.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2983689 - 08/09/04 08:49 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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you are god, and you can bring heaven into your world, you can make your world heaven. However, you are not the only god nor is your world the only world. While you dwell in heaven with your divine minions, millions will suffer and starve. I will not say you are wrong, only that you live in a different world than me.
Also, i skipped about 14 pages of this thread so im way out of date here
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: Moonshoe]
#2984697 - 08/10/04 01:33 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Spacedragon, I suggest you take this advice. You have developed a christ complex and need to seek help.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2987555 - 08/10/04 04:49 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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This post interests me but gives me a headache. All I can say is that like a few of you... I have seen some off the wall shit in this world. Not all the time, only 2 times to be exact. But these 2 events were enough to make me relize that everything I know may infact be wrong, and that there is more to life than our 5 senses. I am sure some of you have as well, aliens? ghosts? miracles?
I just want to say, anything is possible.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: tak]
#2988323 - 08/10/04 07:29 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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The 3rd density is very dense indeed.
Don't worry, soon we break through completely.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2989729 - 08/11/04 02:26 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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the bible is bull shit the koran is a lie the bagahvagita did not fall from the sky.. these are the books written by man...........they've caused wars now follow if you can.!!!!!!!!
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: tak]
#2992505 - 08/11/04 05:19 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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The notion of a "Christ" complex comes from the ignorant view that no one else has the potential to become god-like, so you feel no one should be talking like this. Anyway, go back in the thread if you really want to know what Jesus was about & where his power derived from: Aliens
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Since "ego" is the cause of most of the world's dimemnas; also the 2 traps of "hope" and "fear" in this human condition - I will address that now:
Lifetimes of ignorance have brought us to identify the whole of our beings with ego. Its greatest triumph is to enveigle us into believing its best interests are our best interests, and even into identifying our very survival with its own. This is a savage irony, considering that ego and its grasping are at the root of all our suffering. Yet ego is so convincing, and we have been its dupe for so long, that the thought that we might ever become egoless terrifies us. To be egoless, ego whispers to us, is to lose all the rich romance of being human, to be reduced to a colorless robot or brain-dead vegetable.
Ego plays brilliantly on out fundamental fear of losing control, and of the unknown. We might say to ourselves: "I should really let go of ego, I'm in such pain; but if I do, what's going to happen to me?"
Ego will chime in, sweetly: "I know I'm sometimes a nuisance, and believe me, I quite understand if you want me to leave. But is that what you really want? Think: If I do go, what's going to happen to you? Who will look after you? Who will protect and care for you like I've done all these years?"
And even if we were to see through ego's lies, we are just too scared to abandon it...Again and again we cave in to its demands with the same sad self-hatred as the alcoholic feels reaching for the drink that he knows is destroying him.
Yet however hard ego may try to sabotage the spiritual path, if you really continue on it, and work deeply with the practice of meditation, you will begin slowly to realize just how gulled you have been by ego's promises: false hopes and false fears. Slowly you begin to understand that hope and fear are enemies of your peace of mind; hopes deceive you, and leave you empty and dissapointed, and fears paralyze you in the narrow cell of your false identity.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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If you dare come for me you?ll be ripped apart by white magic and punished severely by our pantheon.
Oh really Lucifer? Do you really think that I can allow you to complete your design on this planet?
NOPE!
Your entire kingdom teeters on the brink of destruction.
We are sitting around having a little party waiting to get the order. When you feel my sword rip into your flesh and a trillion screams are released as you plummet ever downward, you will know that you are defeated forever.
And it will be a pleasure. 
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=42&Number=7342616&page=0&fpart=all
FecalDildo said:
"The site would gain nothing by your idea of "Open discussions". "
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#2996382 - 08/12/04 03:04 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I just spent the better part of a hour reading this thread. WOW YOU PEOPLE ARE REALLY OUT THERE
Some of you need to calm down and refelect on the next sun rise and enjoy your day.
Love one another and be peaceful
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: ]
#2996948 - 08/12/04 05:05 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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HAHAHA
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Hi how's it going, wanna kick Heroin basically painlessly on your own, in your own house, without any government "help" ,or the "help" of a crazy condescending, judgmental medical doctor? Read this:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=42&Number=7342616&page=0&fpart=all
FecalDildo said:
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*Yawn*
Is that crap over with? I'm not trying to build an empire of hate. If you look closely (know your enemy) you'd realize I ask for no money, servitude, wars or anything-just a revolution of consciousness and my reward will be my salvation.
Also, dude, sorry to point this out but I don't fear the swordplay of Floridians HAHA. Many Florida college students couldn't point to where Florida was on the map in a university study.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#2997694 - 08/12/04 08:04 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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As ancient man slowly developed his intellect, he relied less and less on instinct and intuition for survival...and eventually believed that instinct and intuition were no longer important. Look where it's gotten us lately - - we've built enough arms to completely blow up the face of the planet over several hundred times. The late Carl Sagan was warning us about this over three decades ago & here we are still fighting each other daily somewhere on the planet. Science is necessary for evolution as well as this "energy work" to tap our intuition (communicating with the Universal Mind). Again, I propose the "middle path" as Siddhartha Buddha taught after hearing a sitar teacher instructing his student: "If you tighten the string on the sitar too much, it will snap..and if you let the string become too loose, it won't play."
Eventually man accepted as complete reality only those things that he could touch, taste, see, etc. As science developed, mankind chose to ignore those things that could be instinctively or intuitively sensed. But although these intuitive abilities have lied dormant for thousands of years they were not lost, only forgotten. Intuition lies within every one of our subconscious minds waiting to be used and awakened.
Many miracles are nothing more than people who have been able to manipulate these forces to help them in their lives. A way of tapping into psychic energy is through the use of prayer. Meditation is another way of accessing the psychic force and strengthening the connection with it. Milarepa is a good example of how meditation can be used to develop psychic ability. He was once an evil sorcerer like me and changed to become a very powerful and peaceful God. Milarepa was known as the ancient Tibetan superman and was born in Tibet around 1038AD. He lived in seclusion in a cave within the mountains of Tibet. He devoted his life to meditation and learning the art of sorcery. He managed to endure harsh winters by generating psychic heat known as Tumo to counteract the freezing temperatures. He could generate intense body heat at will, has extraordinary physical strength and supposedly traveled at super speeds by making his body extremely light. His death was reportedly accompanied by comets blazing across the sky and flowers falling from nowhere.
The ancient Hindus had a deep understanding of magical and psychic energy. They believed that the air we breathe is charged with life energy called prana, meaning "absolute energy." They believe that this prana is absorbed into the nervous system as we breathe and that it is used up by thoughts, willpower and our mental efforts. All yoga breathing techniques are based on the concept of breathing in prana and its distribution into various channels within our bodies. The channels are called Chakras and are points of dense life force energy of higher potential than the rest of our life force. The Chakras affect the aura which is the energy field that surrounds our body. The Brahamaranda, or crown chakra at the top of our head, is associated with the pineal gland which is believed to be the psychic organ.
The pineal gland is a small gland deep within the center of our brain. Some animals and even reptiles have this gland as well. In many animals it is a light sensitive gland under a thin area of the skull. In reptiles it is covered by a small flap of skin. A second century AD physician named Galen believed it regulates the flow of thought. Philosopher Rene' Descartes called it the "seat of the soul". Aaron Lerner of Yale University discovered in 1958 that it actually produces melotonin, a hormone that acts as a sedative and controls our sleep cycles. This third eye is where psychic information enters into our minds. It is the power behind sending and receiving telepathic messages as well. The third eye concept was believed to have originated from ancient Hindu and Buddhist beliefs.
-These excerpts were taken from The Magick Power of Radionics, Psionics and Orgone.
www.radionicsmagic.com
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Panoramix]
#2997854 - 08/12/04 08:43 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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So a giant spacelight is going to fry the lot of us, and the options'll be your body sizzles, then your soul fries or else your body sizzles, then spontaeious enlightenment? I mean, I see the sense it what your saying, but I still have one problem with it...
What makes you so sure we're all gonna fry come 2012?
No one is going to "fry" or be "sizzled." It'll be a mild sensation when we fully enter the photon belt. The people who don't want to change with the intensity of the energy shift may find themselves getting sicker. But, even at that point, our doctors of the future can maybe help them along with the superior way medicine will be in the future (mixing the best of the East & West)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3001680 - 08/13/04 03:17 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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when everyone talks of peace and love,i feel like a hyporcrite.All this talk of peace and love is good,but i know many people here where clothes made by children and steal their food without knowing that they are stealing food.what then are we to talk about peace and love?can someone please help me with this,i'm in a dilemma.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3002459 - 08/13/04 08:33 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Many miracles are nothing more than people who have been able to manipulate these forces to help them in their lives. A way of tapping into psychic energy is through the use of prayer. Meditation is another way of accessing the psychic force and strengthening the connection with it.
I tried these things, yet all I get are random psychic impressions with no aparent force driving it.... you talk alot of about the 'future' and what will come... where do you get your information and ideas
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He gets these prophecies from the ancient troll of anti-knowledge.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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spacedragon,even if your not the incarnation of satan,i think your really great.i mean i believe you,these other people might be scared concoiously or sub consciously to admit an incartion of satan is on here.i mean unlikely,maybe far fetched,but its like whatever,ill go with it.i've come to believe i'm incarnation of satan too.well in this way:based on all the evils that we do on a daily basis out of ignorance makes us evil(the evil is spawned from satan),and through this ignorance,we become more one with satan than god.this isn't from a religious view at all,i'm just talking in terms of good/bad.the type of ignorance i mean is subjecting people/animals/things to pain.things like oppressing their free will,supporting companies that force labor or treat the children workers bad.i mean that type of evil is obvious,but passed over so mildly.HOW COULD I ASCEND WITH THAT ON MY MIND????!!to me,way to many people,even on these boards,are ignorant to those things,all the awhile they are talkinga bout ascension.i mean how would it be to trade places?that just makes me not know what to do with myself.So many people here get FACTS AND MORALS from the "ancient troll of anti-knowledge"(even though i can't comprehend the statment of anti-knowledge,could that even exist?i'll put this at the bottom..).Theres no bad knowledge,its just that many people choose to not listen to knowledge they can use to their adavantage and everyone elses adavantage and spread love.
ok the anti knowledge thing:
lets get into math(symbolism)
lets say knowledge equals=1
the inverse of knowledge would then be equal to=-1
but what would negative knowledge mean?
the absoulute value of negative knowledge would be 1,but what good would that be?if 1 and -1 were the same,then it would be wise to say that knowledge equals 0.neither spawned left or right,but in the center.but its bound in the center.but there is no left and right if you think about it.its more like theres this idefinte line of value which knowledge may travel.choosing to ignore knowledge wouldn't be anti knowledge either,you would still be learning something.you would be learning how to deny the present knowledge,and instead of filling the brain/soul with that knowledge,its gets pushed away by this ignorance that fills that space which could be used for "pro-knowledge" in place of "anti-knoweldge".i see it as this.the more "pro-knowledge" you have,the more choices you are able to make for your free will.the more "anti knowledge",the more pain and suffering and confusion and lack of understanding.so i guess thats all the "bliss" so many people talk about.all knowledge is bliss,it just depends how you transfer it,even if your satan or just an incarnation.i mean people change,so i wouldn't doubt satan one bit.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: tnecseda]
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As the mind journeys to the advanced level, it reaches altered states of consciousness and experiences different perceptions of reality. In this advanced chi kung (energy work) state of mind, the mind transcends time and space, and may even shuttle between energy and matter. Hence it can perform feats that ordinary minds cannot, and which lay people, depending on their attitude, refer to as miracles or fakery.
Psychic powers and other special extraordinary abilities, such as clairvoyance, prediction, psychokinesis, distant healing and astral travel are possible. The great chi kung master of China, Yan Xin, could change the molecular structure of various liquids 2,000 kilometers away! The great American psychic, Edgar Cayce, diagnosed and healed literally thousands of patients he had never met! It is understandable that most people would dismiss these cases as impossible, yet Yan Xin's experiments were carried out under the strict supervision of China's top scientists, and Cayce's documents (thousands of them) are still available for public investigation at the Association for Research and Enlightenment, Virginia.
The highest stage of meditation is the divine level, where a person accomplishes his greatest achievement, and where, as described above, the great teachers of the various religions attained their union with the Divine. Because of historical, linguistic and cultural differences, this spiritual fulfilment is described in different terms by people of different cultures. Muslims call it the return to Allah; Hindus, the union of atman with Brahman; Taoists, the unity with the cosmos; Buddhists, the attainment of nirvana or Buddhahood.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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i must say what a totally useless post.
i understand and agree with alot of stuff that you have said in this post. except all this leaning into the future and saying whats coming and such, because its not concrete yet and we as society can change our life energy path.
yet i am to see in this post how we can change ourselves personally, cus we have to change ourselves before we can change humanity.
please elaborate on the NOW instead of past or future or anything that is not of this earth.
and also to say that you are a highly spiritually evolved being and world leader is a great part of your illusion from your ego that makes want to feel special and you are playing into it.
i have had contact with such great beings and yet i am to see a single one brag about themselves and what they know.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spudamore]
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A good way to combat sweatshops is by investing in companies in the National Green Pages that is provided by Co-op America. By becoming aware of the companies that don't promote sweatshops & white-collar crimes we can even work the economy to make this planet more stable & harmonious. Through these Green Pages, you can buy socially responsible products from "green businesses" to help invest in healthy community development ..boycott corporate criminals .. and change the way America does business. Hopefully more international "green pages" will pop up but this is a good start.
These 50,000 Co-op America members are using their buying power to create a more just and sustainable society. So, if you feel like you have no choice but to buy vegetables grown with poison or clothing made in sweatshops please consider this reference of good businesses. Because today, "business as usual" at too many corporations still menas polluting our air and water - and exploiting women, minorities and children.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3006821 - 08/15/04 08:07 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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i don't see what that has to do with anything that i posted though it might seem like a nice thing to do. still useless information.
give me something that we all can benifit and realize ourselves spiritually
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spudamore]
#3007274 - 08/15/04 09:36 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Your posts aren't really worth responding to dude. The sacred lies in the ordinary as I said. If the idea of people enslaved to work for absolutely no wages isn't esoteric enough spiritually for you to spur your development further then I suggest you hit the road.
None of my posts are useless & some are downright prophetic. Yes, I'm giving a worldy approach to shamanism that has to start with shamanism 101 to bring everyone up to speed.
The Australians have also predicted this energy shift in the next decade so maybe you'd do better to ask people there. I'm just trying to unite the communities that I post on & get the right astral traveling, ass-kicking shaman priests to protect this world from further invasion.
Also, the space programs on Earth have been a joke since they suppressed alternative fuel sources - - especially in America. If we were to harness more ion propulsion engines & nuclear-fueled spaceships we could stand a chance to meet an enemy head-on before they even touch ground. As dangerous as a nuclear space travel program sounds, there are 2 or more "cut-off" switches to protect the nuke from ever igniting until ground command gives the signal for it to activate. So, even if a nuclear-propelled spaceship were to have a mishap during take-off, the nuke wouldn't even go off. All this info is available at Space.com & NASA's site.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3007375 - 08/15/04 10:01 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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why are you even arguing that his posts are worthless,needless to say,i was ignorant to green pages,and that sounds wonderful to me.Your not worthless,but your attitude is.Please try to learn everything you can from spacedragon and everyone in S&P.Just don't be blinded by the "ordinary" so you can actaully see the ordinary.Sane people drive me fucking crazy.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: tnecseda]
#3007413 - 08/15/04 10:09 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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We also need to start moving away from anti-depressants in this modern age. There are many side-effects & some unknown long term side-effects that aren't properly researched when most of the pharmaceutical industry is about profit & not about healing.
Is it possible that we have demonized hallucinogens because we fear the contents of our own minds? When he tried mescaline for the first time, the chemist Sasha Shulgin found "the world amazed me, in that I saw it as I had when I was a child. I had forgotten the beauty and the magic and the knowing-ness of it and me." He realized the tiny amount of white powder he had ingested could not have caused such profound visions. It had only revealed what was inside of him. He understood that "our entire universe is contained in the mind and the spirit. We may choose not to find access to it, we may even deny its existence, but it is indeed there inside us, and there are chemicals that can catalyze its availability."
I'm not saying that psychedelics provide an instant answer ... but they offer a different set of lenses through which to look at the problem. These days, most people are far more suspicious of plant compounds safely ingested by human beings for tens of thousands of years than they are of selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRI's) or other powerful, utterly synthetic, mood and mind-altering drugs created in the last decades by a pharmacological industry motivated by profit.
-Excerpt taken from "Breaking Open the Head : A Psychedelic Journey into the Heart of Contemporary Shamanism" by Daniel Pinchbeck.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3007750 - 08/15/04 11:39 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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1st off i didn't say that his post were worthless. i said it is useless .
the fact that these people work their arses of for absolutely no money is because its apart of their karmic debt i am busy working off and letting go of my own karma rather than worrying about theirs.
i don't know maybe its the sage/warrior in me that doesn't like living in something that hasn't alredy happened because why worry about something that is not in your life at this very moment.
and your so called profephetic veiws i could find in a great number of books. that many i have read also.
and still as of yet i have not learnt anything from you
i know nothing....
'those who "speak" know nothing. those who "know" don't speak'
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spudamore]
#3008248 - 08/16/04 05:12 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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You're a joke man & your sentiment about:
Quote: why worry about something that is not in your life at this very moment., when referring to the situation people in sweatshops are going through, reflects a dangerous apathy showing you're nothing like a true sage.
I just donated to the Red Cross relief effort for the hurricane that hit Florida. Tens of thousands of people have lost their homes & some have lost their lives or their children. I ask that the people of Shroomery.org please consider donating as well - even a small donation.
I happen to get the MJ Morningshow radio program in my state & they're based in Florida. The President of the US has declared Florida a disaster area & they really need help.
Around 700,000 are thought to be without power amid physical damages to buildings and trees.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3008267 - 08/16/04 05:38 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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you think i am a joke the fact that you are acting from your ego shows us that you have no leader qualities and not as spiritual as you think you are.
the basis of a warrior/sage is to have NO attachments and live in the NOW, and stand straight in life. leaning on people as little as possible. and only let people lean on you when nessecary.
i have little attachments in this life. also live in the now.
i also so think you should have quoted the whole sentence
i don't know maybe its the sage/warrior in me that doesn't like living in something that hasn't alredy happened because why worry about something that is not in your life at this very moment.
and also to the other comment that you made about the sweatshops is that i find its their lesson to learn in their life which is not apart of mine.
you don't need to help people to become enlightened or become more spiritually open.
just because you do something nice for people dosen't mean that you are the person you think you are.
i feel that you can do more work for humanity if you help those around you not people that you don't know.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spudamore]
#3008274 - 08/16/04 05:51 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes, of course it's not just the money you give but also good works. The vibrations of love are very purifying. For me, specifically, when I stopped "cherishing myself," as we tend to do in the West, and began to cherish others I began to gain deeper spiritual insights. A true shaman is ecstatic for his/her people to gain bliss & heaven & not just gunning for himself.
I do like your title you give yourself as sage/warrior. Let's see you grow into that position over the years because I see you have potential.
My ancient eastern swordplay would make your sword go limp just watching me so let's not begin again with who's really the sage/warrior here.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3008290 - 08/16/04 06:10 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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you still are still trying to statisfy your ego by thinking that you are more spiritual than the next person.
i give unconditional love to all humanity, creatures, what society calls good and bad people, all negativities and positivities, not only of myself but all beings in all diamensions and realities for i see all people in the highest good/love.
but that doesn't mean i am more spiritual than any other person. for i also see that all is an illusion.
words have little or no meaning so can you test me if you will i'll wait if you like.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spudamore]
#3008751 - 08/16/04 10:37 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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ABA commission cites over-reliance on incarceration, calls for new ?smart on crime? approach.
A report issued by a special American Bar Association commission finds that America?s criminal justice system relies too heavily on incarceration, and echoes FAMM?s [families against mandatory minimums]latest call to find ?smart on crime? solutions.
?For more than 20 years now, we have gotten tougher on crime,? said ABA President Dennis Archer. ?Now we need to get smarter. We can no longer sit by as more and more people - particularly in minority communities - are sent away for longer and longer periods of time while we make it more and more difficult for them to return to society after they serve their time. The system is broken. We need to fix it.?
?The federal government?s approach on mandatory sentencing stands in stark contrast to many states that are discovering mandatory sentencing laws send the wrong people to prison and waste valuable dollars,? said Julie Stewart, president of Families Against Mandatory Minimums (FAMM.) ?The federal government should consider smart-on-crime solutions and address the reality of a prison system packed with non-violent and low-level offenders, including too many substance abusers, disproportionate numbers of people of color and a rapidly growing population of women.?
Stewart was one of many national sentencing and corrections experts who testified before the ABA special commission and provided information on the impact of mandatory sentencing laws.
The report recommendations, the result of nearly a year-long review of issues confronting state and federal criminal justice systems, address four primary sets of issues: sentencing and incarceration, racial and ethnic disparities in criminal justice systems, prison conditions and prisoner reentry, and pardons and clemency processes. The recommendations in the report will be considered by the ABA House of Delegates for adoption as policy at its annual meeting in Atlanta, Aug. 9 - 10.
Justice Kennedy Against Minimum
Prison Terms
SAN FRANCISCO, California (AP) -- Supreme Court Justice Anthony M. Kennedy has said that prison terms are too long and that he favors scrapping the practice of setting mandatory minimum sentences for some federal crimes.
"Our resources are misspent, our punishments too severe, our sentences too long," Kennedy told the annual meeting of the American Bar Association, his remark met by long applause.
"I can accept neither the necessity nor the wisdom of federal mandatory minimum sentences," Kennedy said. "In all too many cases, mandatory minimum sentences are unjust."
Kennedy is a moderate conservative placed on the court by former President Ronald Reagan. His criticism puts him at odds with Attorney General John Ashcroft, who wants prosecutors to closely monitor which judges impose more lenient sentences than federal guidelines recommend. Such oversight, critics say, could limit judicial independence.
Kennedy said he agrees with the need for federal sentencing guidelines. The 15-year-old system gives judges a range of possible punishments for most crimes and eliminates some of the disparities in terms imposed by different judges for the same crime.
Still, the guidelines lead to longer prison terms than were common before, Kennedy said.
"We should revisit this compromise," he said. "The federal sentencing guidelines should be revised downward."
Prosecutors often ask for sentences at or near the top of the guideline range, and defense lawyers ask for terms at or even below the bottom. Judges have some freedom to "downwardly depart," from the guidelines and hand down a lesser punishment.
Ashcroft recently directed U.S. attorneys to promptly report to Justice Department headquarters any such departures that are not part of a plea agreement in exchange for cooperation.
"The Department of Justice has a solemn obligation to ensure that laws concerning criminal sentencing are faithfully, fairly and consistently enforced," Ashcroft wrote in a memo issued July 28.
Kennedy did not address Ashcroft's directive.
The justice asked the ABA to lobby Congress to repeal mandatory minimum sentence laws, even though they have withstood court scrutiny.
"The court on which I set and other courts have upheld long sentences, but please remember because a court has said something is permissible does not mean it is wise," Kennedy said.
Kennedy voted with the Supreme Court majority this year to uphold California's toughest-in-the-nation law mandating 25-year minimum prison terms for three-time felons.
Kennedy also urged the ABA to consider working to extend pardons for state and federal prisoners serving harsh terms.
"The pardon process, of late, seems to have been drained of its moral force. Pardons are infrequent," Kennedy said. "A people confident in its laws and institutions should not be ashamed of mercy."
Kennedy asked lawyers to think about the consequences of the current prison system, including what he called its "remarkable scale" of about 2.1 million people behind bars nationwide and the fact that about 40 percent of the prison population is black.
"It is no defense if our current system is more the product of neglect than of purpose," Kennedy said. "Out of sight, out of mind is not acceptable for any part of our justice system."
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3010851 - 08/16/04 08:04 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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i can't understand how you can't learn from a post.You learn the colors of the post,the text,the font,the characters,the formation,the paragraphs,structure,length,and even the indiviuals character.I'm just saying the obvious,i'm sure if you were to list what you could learn,it would be infinite.Even if you analyzed it enough,you could learn things that have happened thousands of years ago.I mean,you could learn about that,just in this life(this probably doesn't make any sense,but it will sometime in the future.).I've never read spacedragon say that he was more spirtual.I mean we're all on diffrent levels.It doesn't make one "better" or "worse".Yeah,some people can be more spirtual than the next person,and thats a fine claim to make.Its just an affirmation for someone,i mean its bad if their not spirtually advanced,but if they are,thats cool by me.If someone claims to be farther down the path,even though they are not,you can still learn from them.A person with unconditional love can learn anything.If you have that,how can you not learn from a post?Uselessness comes from what i think,backtracking,and thats what its seems you are doing,your straying others thoughts to maybe agreeing with you that these posts are usless.Were you here from the begining?If you are thats even better.I may not believe spacedragon 100% on everything(though i do have good faith in him),you never know,he could be mislead by someone,or just misinterpted something,but i trust him in what he believes.This thread is obviously not useless to many people.I mean they're shroomites,not a country,but this forum and thread means alot to them.I've never seen a useless post.I've only seen candy around apples.Some are fake,some are real.
"i give unconditional love to all humanity, creatures, what society calls good and bad people, all negativities and positivities, not only of myself but all beings in all diamensions and realities for i see all people in the highest good/love."
i see that you see people in the highest good.thats wonderful.just see spacedragon and the rest of us for information.you might just develop that unconditional love for knowledge.its in everything,and for someone with uncoditional love to deny knowledge,blows my mind.Most people deny things on a daily basis,i my self am guilty of this.I try and try to get over that,but i try not to deny knowledge,even though i may.But far from that,i don't call any knowledge useless.Just depends on a spirtual level i suppose.Spud,your one of the good ones.Don't go to waste,you could be a lot better regarding your postion of spirtuality.Spacedragon posts here because theres a certain level of knowledge,understanding,and love here.And if it so happens that this is for his ego,then lets help him get over it,lol.You know what i mean?If you think thats the case,don't call his posts useless,because now you may have the oppurtunity to help a human being on the spirtual path.Let him get over his ego and show him the way.Inform him.Let him know the beauty of your unconditional love and kindness.I've never been able to live in the "now","future" or "past".I can't live like that,blah.My world is all of that at once,i feel my self living in all of that,learning from each one, i benifit from all of them.Learning from what i feel in the future helps me shape the things to come in the now,and things from the past help me in the now so i can help my self in the future,so the now will be better.Attachments are bad,but having someone in your life to love is better.I mean like a particular person you choose to communicate and see on a certain basis,for example a girlfriend,you can learn from them too.Although i do not think you are a joke,calling someone a joke does have leader qualities to it.Its word to describe how you represent yourself and your ideas.Everything is in your life at this very moment,as your read this,before you read this,and after.Its all one,and how dare you not care about it.How fucking dare you man.Do you see your ego?Fuck you man.Thats awful,that hurts me alot.That hurts me to my fucking soul.Its not such much the apathy,its you not taking care of yourself,and when you do that,you can't take care of other people,and when you don't take of other people,you can't take care of yourself.I sometimes have trouble sleeping in my bed at night,knowing about the horrible things.I think and think about it.Just wondering how i could make it better.I mean if i can push my life into spirtual enlightenment,thats wonderful.But if i have the ability to help other people along the way,and gain even more spirtual enlightment,even better.Cause you know what,i'm not here just to save my own ass,if i can help millions,thats beautiful,if i can help one,well thats beautiful too.Your a good person,and don't be one of those people who think that i don't know you on a personal basis so how i could i say your a good person.Some people just know.And Your farther along the path,don't waste it,don't waste it on yourself.Many are given a gift,and some waste it on them selves.Here my prophecy,one day,spudmore will learn in posts.I speak what i know,i know something,because i know if someone knew something that i didn't,i would want them to tell me.The person who thinks they know is bad,but the person that does know shines beautifully.I will speak whatever i know for the sake of what goes around comes around.I speak what i know,someone else will tell me what they know,regardless even if they think they know.Thats quote has been taken way out of context by the people of these boards,the quote.
'those who "speak" know nothing. those who "know" don't speak',and other ones the go along those lines.
Those who don't speak what they know are assholes.Shame on them for not passing along the good knowlege.Those who really know teach,even if they think they know.Sometimes,they ones who think they know,teach you they need help.Sometimes,those who speak of knowledge,need help or are seeking help.I know i am.I need help.I want help.I love help.i know something,if i didin't know anything,i would walk on this planet thinking i was the smartest one alive.If i didn't know anything,how would i know any better?Just being the man who doesn't knows nothing would just be clouded by the contridiction of the stament.He obviously learned how to speak,maybe even right,he learned how to produce words with the tongue,knows how to breath.i mean knowing that you can learn more is a better statment.You may not know much,maybe even less than that.but were just babies to knowledge,its time to devolp and learn and know that you can know.Be more than a "man".Be the human of light and love your suppose to be.Fuck Man.LOVE AND LIGHT.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: tnecseda]
#3012196 - 08/17/04 03:44 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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well what a post. great that you feel that way. i was here from the beginning. i am not saying that i don't help people or don't feel compassion or anything like that. i only do to those i cross paths in life and those who are willing to help themselves and really want to know a deeper understanding of themself because changing just these people will have a greater effect on all humanity than helping mindless people that aren't willing to understand.
lets say that we give everything to all those who want something. what are they going to learn from it? what experience are they are going to have? are they willing to learn? or are they going to keep coming back expecting the same treatment and sucking the energy.
there is a story that goes this guy goes climbs a high mountain to fast and to connect to god. and tells god if he doesn't contact gim by the end of the 21 day fast he is going to jump of the mountain. on the last day god contacts this guy. god asks him what he wants to know, the guy replies with please fill me with all your light then god responds with i am constantly filling everybody with light including you but you keep leaking.....
but one thing i still yet to learn anything new from this post. it might seem all nice and such what he is talking about, except the fact it has nothing to do with the now. with all are living in the now. so what we do now paves ourway into the future. so step carefully and purposfully. i see that i haven't set a good example lately. but that was the way i was feeling at that time and i have deattached myself from it. i can't see why one should waste energy and thoughts on something that might or might not happen or what has happened because you can't change the past.
i also didn't say that i haven't learn anything from posts or this message board i am saying that i haven't learnt anything new from this post or anything meaningful or that applys to daily life, if one beleives that this is going to happen why talk about it why not take action to help people change as they are now. instead of giving info on something that isn't constant yet.
i also find its not the matter of sharing info or knowledgeto others, because its not nessescary too. knowledge is best fully understood and comprehended when one askes for it or seeks it..
there is a lot of useless knowledge that i could spew forth but what would be the use if it can't change a person.
put yourself 1st before you help others or you will have no experience to share with them
the very fact that i am replying and am here is because i have brought myself to beleive the illusion that i live in a reality. and also to satisfy what little is left of my ego.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3012530 - 08/17/04 07:37 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Can I ask you something. I only read the last page if this bamble though, but:
"I do like your title you give yourself as sage/warrior. Let's see you grow into that position over the years because I see you have potential."
Who the hell are you to tell who has potential and who not?  Smoke weed dude (at least from kaboom, every day, at least 2g) and then wonder why you have such a bad paranoia.
Rofl...
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: supermarket]
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I'll be honest, in this life I've seen some amazing things, even posting a hint at them would have Swami on my ass like......well.....yea believe me I wont go there.
are you scared of swami? c'mon reveal all!
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Some of the stuff he is saying are half-truths.....some things make no sense...and a few things were even dead on.
judging by the amount of words spacedragon writes, some of it has to be good. if you shoot an arrow at a target 10 000 times, you will hit it sooner or later. doesn't mean you are a good archer tho.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: mr crisper]
#3015004 - 08/17/04 05:23 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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What if Spacedragon IS Swami? Come on Swami ...give it up.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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i had that same thought but i don't think swami is clever enough....
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: TheDude]
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Swami plus three more Swamis couldn't create this
Anyway
As my teacher of Bagua martial arts tells me ("eight direction" fighting & philosophy of the I-Ching) "The universe is always moving .. therefore, we must always keep moving to avoid getting sick - - also this pertains to our internal organs & fluids, humors & orgone (chi, prana, bioelectric energy) - - making sure they're always flowing & in motion. Similar to how a fast moving river doesn't stagnate & often has clear water as opposed to swamps where algae & other bacteria can grow. Inside the human body, the very same thing happens when blood, energy, or fluids stagnate: bacteria or any other pathogens can easily proliferate as well as cancerous cells not getting the proper oxygen & nutrients to become well again.
Another thing he taught me, which is of timeless importance, is "move 3 things always and you'll never get cancer or get sick at all: Move your breath, Move your body & Move your bowels." Many diseases originate in the gut & it's an important "garden" & source of spiritual power for both martial & healing purposes.
Edited for typos like most posts (or grammar). Sometimes I have to bite my tongue though & retract a venomous blow. Not this time =)
Edited by spacedragon (08/17/04 11:10 PM)
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3020588 - 08/18/04 08:25 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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You need to just break down and write a book. This kind of crazy shit would sell big...think about it.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3023391 - 08/19/04 11:27 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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So - what a fuckin' night! Let me put this saga like this: (I'm entirely open to the idea that I'm delusional - so please keep this in mind). But, many important events .............................................................................................etc etc etc etc
................................everything it takes to topple this piece of shit gov't with a revolution - but I hate being toyed with . All I would hear in return is "Yes, it's true Adam".
Beliefs are only as real as they think they are.
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I'll know, I know
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Swami plus three more Swamis couldn't create this
Anyway
As my teacher of Bagua martial arts tells me ("eight direction" fighting & philosophy of the I-Ching) "The universe is always moving .. therefore, we must always keep moving to avoid getting sick - - also this pertains to our internal organs & fluids, humors & orgone (chi, prana, bioelectric energy) - - making sure they're always flowing & in motion. Similar to how a fast moving river doesn't stagnate & often has clear water as opposed to swamps where algae & other bacteria can grow. Inside the human body, the very same thing happens when blood, energy, or fluids stagnate: bacteria or any other pathogens can easily proliferate as well as cancerous cells not getting the proper oxygen & nutrients to become well again.
Another thing he taught me, which is of timeless importance, is "move 3 things always and you'll never get cancer or get sick at all: Move your breath, Move your body & Move your bowels." Many diseases originate in the gut & it's an important "garden" & source of spiritual power for both martial & healing purposes.
Edited for typos like most posts (or grammar). Sometimes I have to bite my tongue though & retract a venomous blow. Not this time =)
Great info, thanks!
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Northernsoul]
#3034688 - 08/21/04 09:47 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is the Last Testament as I said. I'm following up the Old Testament and New Testament to close the chapter on this biblical saga & the gamut of misinformation reguarding Jehovah, Jesus, Satan, Yahweh & his Elohim race of aliens.
I love you guys & thanks for all the input to keep me razor sharp. I will become a God in this Middle World & challenge any human to try to destroy me either in Hyperspace or in this 3-dimensional realm. And, for the love of the Heavens, pls understand that when I mean "Final Chapter" that's only concerning the Bible story & era -- Not the human race. There will be MANY more chapters in human history. So, for the people coming late in this thread, there will be no apocolypse - - not on my watch.
I'm also looking for candidates to be fathers or mothers of the holy Tulkus "reincarnations" to grace our planet again:
(Of course I will be the father of Jesus Christ)
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Siddhartha Gautama Buddha
The Empress of the Americas
Martin Luther King, Jr.
Doc The
Tupac Shakur
Biggie Smalls (Shawn Wallace)
Dwight D. Eisenhower
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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holy shit .......................... 
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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My understanding is that Jesus returns, but no where have I ever read or heard anything in the bible interpreted to mean that Jesus is reborn.
Where in the bible would this be referenced?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Frog]
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The paradox is interesting where I'm filled with the knowledge & full-potential of my spirit, but I couldn't have reached certain levels if I didn't "empty" myself. Just like a disciple in Asia seeking a master centuries ago looked for a famous master deep in the mtns. and wanted to ask for more instruction. He approched the master and stated "I have studied with this master and that famous master & learned all these lessons & techniques so WHAT could you possibly teach me?" The master calmly listened & poured some tea into a cup -- and when the tea began to reach the top he kept pouring & the tea began to pour onto the table. Eventually, the student couldn't hold it any longer and said "Master, what are you doing .. the tea is going all over the place!" The master replied "Just like this cup, you're over-filled & need to 'Empty Your Cup' for me to teach you any further."
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3037164 - 08/22/04 05:14 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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The good thing about me is that I can't remember anything anyways, so if you have anything to teach, teach away. I'm empty.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3037746 - 08/22/04 07:57 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Seems that you are recommending we put holes in the bottom of our tea cups.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: Frog]
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I know it gets hazy sometimes about the history of those times & the prophecy of his return. But, the likelyhood of Jesus walking "out of heaven" is very low. When the masters of the Western & Eastern traditions are over here identifying Master Jesus Christ, it's gonna be only you guys and the sound of crickets over there waiting for him to "poof" into the Middle World.
Gods
demi-gods
humans
animals
hungry ghosts
smoky hells
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Assuming that the bible is true, I realize that it can be interpreted in many different ways, and especially Revelations. But the main interpretation I have heard is Jesus basically coming down from the sky or something like that.
I suppose that because John was given these revelations at a time when he could not probably understand what he was seeing due to the advancement of technology between the time he was here and we are now reading the bible, what he wrote was probably an inadequate interpretation of what he saw. He may not have had the vocabulary to describe what he saw.
And according to the bible, there is only one God. There are no little gods. I don't mean to be argumentative, but you did invoke the bible yourself, saying that you are going to write the final chapter. The bible repeatedly says that there is only one God.
How do you reconcile "Gods" and "demi-gods"?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
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Quote:
spacedragon said:
The paradox is interesting where I'm filled with the knowledge & full-potential of my spirit, but I couldn't have reached certain levels if I didn't "empty" myself. Just like a disciple in Asia seeking a master centuries ago looked for a famous master deep in the mtns. and wanted to ask for more instruction. He approched the master and stated "I have studied with this master and that famous master & learned all these lessons & techniques so WHAT could you possibly teach me?" The master calmly listened & poured some tea into a cup -- and when the tea began to reach the top he kept pouring & the tea began to pour onto the table. Eventually, the student couldn't hold it any longer and said "Master, what are you doing .. the tea is going all over the place!" The master replied "Just like this cup, you're over-filled & need to 'Empty Your Cup' for me to teach you any further."
-Dragon
Empty your cup so that it may be re-filled? Or empty it so that it should remain empty?
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3038736 - 08/23/04 06:07 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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just make sure you drink the tead.take time to sip while its hot and finish it,and pour yourself another cup.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: tnecseda]
#3041173 - 08/23/04 07:05 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yea, I like what tnecseda said. It's important to be in the present moment & let go of preconceived notions while visiting a spiritual master. Also, this philosophy can work well in self-defense. "If you anticipate the outcome of a fight.." as Bruce Lee taught, you have a big chance of becoming distracted... or if you try to perform "katas" while in a real fight you could get leveled. Katas are the long string of "forms," or martial combinations of movements, or "dances" if you will for training. But, the caveat Bruce Lee left us was they run the risk of "solidifying what was once fluid" like the true nature of Tao.
One must also train yielding & balance (even mentally) to become attuned to the Way & never be defeated. By yielding you cause the opponent to lose balance & fall over (or be flipped) and then you strike hard to their soft "pressure" points for knock-outs .. a good area is the many pressure points on the chin or "glass jaw".)
Ummm...little Gods? I don't believe there is such a thing. I mean there is a hierarchy but there is no omnipotent or omnisicient entity. That was proven when Jehovah's not been there for many people when needed ...
Also, the vatican had to change their story after they first said god/jehovah made humans out of clay & nothing else had a soul but humans. Then, when we found that 97% + of primate DNA is similar to our's & there's very likely a soul animating these friends of ours. The vatican then was like uhhhhh.....yea the soul was put by God into humans at the moment they changed from monkeys to humans. Shut the fuck up is what I'm thinking during this bullshit in Sunday school.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3041600 - 08/23/04 08:38 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some PM's I just gotta explode out into cyberspace (and hyperspace because the Gods are listening -- not just one of them)... Also the Elohim have super-computers on their vessels that can monitor even thoughts & brainwaves but they are only guarding our planet now until 2012. Following 2012, for any spirits here needing extra help to make a quantum-leap in evolution .. It sucks, but some people are going to take my words and see them as pure evil or mind-games to confuse you (not believing a person or god can change) but you can see the clarity & my compassion for life & earth now...
Here on this planet, the Elohim could provide medical help & anaesthesia for the people who grow sicker with this higher-vibrational energy (when the body is clean however & the mind is rdy to let go it'll be easy to adjust) -- also you'll feel better without energy being wasted so often fighting micro-organism infections by eating right & exercising! As their ailments & cancers could grow at exponential rates _ we're lucky to have our cosmic neighbors now forming an alliance (I still claim the 2 other DNA-filled planets now in my Empire but will allow the Elohim to work for us on the 3rd Earth and possibly mate with humans to make superior hybrids ready for longer space traveling missions.
If you guys have a super-serious problem with that pls PM me -- I'm open to suggestions. Mars will have a wonderul colony as well as the other two Earths. We have the priviledge of colonizing the surface of Mars as the God of Venus uses the core of Mars as his lair & energy "re-up" station. As long as we don't pollute the surface too much & cause massive techtonic plate disruptions from over-drilling or bombing eachother - he will help our civilization & tell the Grey aliens to leave us alone.
Consider the Elohim like that holographic doctor on "Deep Space Nine" who's harmless & has access to massive medical healing machines & lasers for surgeries...Even long distance surgeries they've mastered like we're just beginning to use now. Simply using a telescoping lense & sophisticated lasers, the Elohim were healing lepers from their vessel while Jesus appeared like he was healing them.
Anyone thinking I'm making up the interactions between the aliens & Jesus please take a quick look through the International Raelian Movement website (translated in over 20 or 30 languages.) The aliens revealed to Claude Rael that Jesus never healed the lepers & never would've walked on water without the "ice laser" being used and a little addition of their "anti-gravitational beam laser."
Here's the PM ... I got sidetracked:
HI,
Thanks for posting in my thread "Heaven is coming to Earth." Pls tell me more master .. are you indeed "Jesus" because we could at least have a proper worldwide identification (and protection) & party in your honor.
What the Gods are telling me however, is that you may not be Jesus & he is in God form now. Please tell me all of your visions & recent interactions with Gods or spirits. Do you talk to spirits or light beings when you trip or meditate? I'd like to here what traditions you've studied in this lifetime because I always enjoy learning new stuff.
I believe in the lesson when the ancient sage walked down the road he thought to himself "If I encounter just 3 people on the road -- one of them could be my teacher in some subject. And it's important to remain humble..although coming from me that sounds absurd with how confident & arrogant I am sometimes HAHA. Before any1 becomes a master, he must first be a student!
-Dragon (Adam)
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I'm willing to believe this fellow is an "avatar" of Lord Jesus & is doing good works as a bodhisattva of the God Buddha Jesus Christ. Also, we need to recognize that , if this guy is Jesus now, he could be destined to die & come to me as part of the prophecy. Some buddhists have nighttime rituals before going to bed as if it were their last night & there's no way to be sure when you could die. I'm being told about many future events because I have people listening from many walks of life -- even the FBI & CIA have been reading this Final Testsment.
But, the Gods tell me he is not Jesus himself (Jesus has tapped the deepest levels of his spirit -- of course more powerful than me at this time) and took an after-life in a God form. He is not a human now until I summon him. I'll ask if we can make it an "immaculate conception" but the Raelian leaders are saying it never happened with Jesus anyway (the Elohim impregnated Mary with a genetically-altered human zygote.)
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#3042093 - 08/23/04 10:32 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Let me clear everything up about the AIDS cure. It works and the brilliant man who discovered how to destroy these pathogens, by finding their "mortal oscillitory rate" using soundwaves, (similar to a glass breaking from a singer's voice) should be honored & statues made for him.
Even to this day electron microscopes crush everything dead that they're looking at. Dr. Royal Rife discovered a way to monitor a virus while the virus was alive (using a very specialized/customized microscope) & was able to perform tests on these live specimens to find ways to control or kill it.
Many doctors & scientists were totally amazed by him discovering the cancer & aids cure. After using his modified microscope to see a live virus up closely, he knew what to do with them using square-headed soundwaves at specific frequencies that would "shake up" and shatter the structures of these pathogens killing them.
Dr. Rife discovered a way to make a simple hand-held device humans can use to destroy AIDS, Candidiasis, mononucleosis, Hepatitis A, B & C & many forms of cancer. Many doctors held a banquet that year called "The End of all Disease."
At the time earlier in the century, taking flights out to the west coast of the US wasn't very feasible for many of these scientists to see the amazing customized microscope up closely. Therefore, many didn't believe it in spite of the hundreds of well-respected scientists & doctors claiming they saw the cures being administered.
The gov't sent in agents to work in Rife's facility under-cover & the bastards stole parts of his modified microscope & fucked his lab up.
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I can't stress these points enough for us to get the AIDS/Cancer cure to these dying people:
The End to All Disease
What if someone invented a machine that could cure virtually any disease and was affordable to buy and easy to use?
Surely such a machine would immediately be hailed as one of the greatest achievements of all time right?
Throughout history most new medical breakthroughs have not been so easily accepted. Take for example Mr. Semmelweiss who struggled for years to convince surgeons to practice sterile procedures. Then there was Pasteur who was ridiculed for years about his germ theory. Roentgen was held back with his x-rays, Morton for his ether anesthesia, Harvey for his theory of blood circulation and many more. The big business of the medical world doesn't like things to change very fast because it usually represents a threat to their massive profits in some way.
Well certainly the many research foundations who receive hundreds of millions of dollars per year in the form of donations and grants would be happy about a cure, right?
Think again. That would cause their funds to dry up virtually overnight and put them out of business. I'm sure that all the executives making six figure incomes in these foundations won't let that happen.
What about the pharmaceutical companies, surely they would be interested in such a machine right?
Think again! These companies will be very unhappy to learn that a small handheld machine costing $700 could make most drugs today obsolete and put an end to their gravy train. Perhaps they would even try to stop anyone with such a machine especially since there are virtually billions of dollars at stake. Maybe they would even try to quietly get rid of anyone with such a machine.
What about hospitals and big clinics, wouldn't they want a machine like this? They won't be very happy about a therapy which can be administered in any doctor's office or by the patient himself and which reverses illness before a patient has to be hospitalized. People would have little use for hospitals except for actual trauma related injuries and accidents. Hospitals would loose billions of dollars in revenue per year and be forced to massively downsize their staff.
Well what about the insurance companies, wouldn't they be happy about such a machine? Most insurance companies would start to loose lots of policy holders when people realize that they can be cured by a simple machine which uses about as much electricity to operate as a small radio. Since this cure is so cheap, most people would not care much about having medical insurance. The insurance industry would not be happy about the billions of dollars of lost revenue from such a machine.
Now do you really think that if such a machine existed that you would know about it?
Well this machine does exist and has been around for decades!
It was invented by Royal Raymond Rife in the 1930's. Rife was the first man on earth to see a living virus using his special Rife Universal Microscope. Rife's discoveries were confirmed by many doctors and scientists worldwide during his lifetime. In 1934 Rife cured 100% of a group of terminal cancer patients brought to him by a special medical research committee. Forty four of the nation's most respected medical authorities honored Rife with a banquet billed as "The end to all Disease".
A short time later nearly all of these people denied they ever even met Rife. The AMA (American Medical Association) shut Rife down and kept him quiet for decades. Lives were threatened and pressure was brought to bear against anyone who supported him or even confirmed his work. Bribe money was paid to prominent doctors who witnessed Rife's work to simply forget they ever met him. People were even filled and poisoned and laboratories and research was burned and destroyed.
Rife died in 1971 but his work has survived in an underground black market to researchers for many years. Now through painstaking research it is available again!
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#3043516 - 08/24/04 08:34 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I know it will take some time for you to trust me or support until some evidence is presented -- like baby Jesus -- or some magic or miracles are brought forth. I have some clairvoyance & foresight, dabbling mostly in minor sorcery; but Jesus was given a staff by the Elohim that could locate water & repel water & Noah a staff to part the river. I'm cooking something up =)
When you talk about your empires,why yours,and why control?
I feel that someone had to step in & the Gods make me feel guided & focused on this important task of getting the Earth united.
If jesus played his part in ruses to fool people,why would i trust him at all?
You can trust Jesus & he thought he was doing what's best. Those little guys are spellbinding with their mini-jet packs on their wrists & lasers that can melt trees and shit. You couple that with a shimmering space suit that glows a bit from the little force field around - so, you're damn sure it's gonna seem God-like back in his time. They didn't have all these movies & other stuff like the internet to prepare them. Also, Jesus dabbled in magic & meditated often so he was also talking to Jehovah who was in the 4th dimension.
if the fbi and cia are watchign you,does that mean they're watching me?
Yea, it was my little way of saying you guys should watch what you say but I'm going full-steam until I die (Haha) fuck it!
I think its great that your support cures for diseases,i think its kind of cool that you push the rife machine,i mean i don't have experience with it,but why do you push it so much?
Ummm, dude it's the AIDS cure, plus it also cures Hep A, B & C and other "incurable" STDs that people are suffering & dying from every day. Not to mention it's the CURE FOR CANCER that modern-day allopathic medicine does not have access to (but they have no qualms charging over $200,000/year from these poor families for ineffective therapies.)It's a one-time payment of $700. We have to at least find a medium between the two prices damnit.
-Adam
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#3043561 - 08/24/04 08:43 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Nah,
Forget a medium price. The price stays at $700 and because I'm letting this info flood into the world slowly, we can work at healing these patients & charging a small fee for it. Trust me they'll thank you from the bottom of their heart. You just saved them from a "terminal" illness & saved them financially. [now I see where it looked like I was trying to sell it -- I have never sold one & I do not sell these items]Guys, the economy could crash if we brought it in too fast. That's why I say it needs to be administered steadily but now worldwide now so the technology is never lost. These gov't officials tried to stamp it out but the evidence is in many scientists' hands.
The machine is also great because the freq of 20Hz stimulates brain funtion & strengthens one's aura. It can be used for post-operative infection control, destroys mononucleosis & the watered-down version of the bubonic plague that many Europeans can still carry in their lymph glands.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#3043577 - 08/24/04 08:48 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Back to the end of the War on Drugs. The very psychologist that started the D.A.R.E. program (drug awareness resistance education) said that he believes, in hindsight, that the program was ineffective. He doesn't even support it. But this program still rages on as police officers make it to your kids school to brainwash them. It has aimed at turning children into "Brownshirts" like in nazi germany to "rat" out their parents if they notice any drug use.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
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i think dare was made to encourage the use of drugs.the age of 6th grade and up are ages were some kids begin a severe depression or notice the problems in their lives."heres something that makes you feel good for a price",its an escape for some kids.i'm not talking about pot.well i am but i'm not.i think its encourging program backed by people who think its serious,when its like a program to put kids on drugs.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: tnecseda]
#3043717 - 08/24/04 09:30 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Some people were a little worried when PM'ing me about the feds (LEO) on the boards. Don't worry, they're only concerned with monitoring activity that would suggest a violent course of action. You've been talking about deep spiritual insights & they would see you "in their eyes" as just someone who fell under my spell or something. It's cool, I'll take all the responsibility on myself & they can come after me. They've even told me a beheading would be best for them because they could have their implant back w/the brainwave technology & GPSatellite tracking device.
-Dragon
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#3046337 - 08/24/04 08:39 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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When my oldest daughter was doing DARE she asked me why the police officer told them that doing drugs was a product of Satan's influence. Even a 13 year old could see through this lame quasi-religious reasoning. I don't even think this propoganda was in line with the DARE program, but there is such ignorance about the subject in small town police departments that they resort to this transparent reasoning to discourage drug use. My three kids are not very gullible (their father is a major bullshit artist so they have heard it all) and religiously they all claim no belief in any sort of afterlife so to approach them with this Satan BS is alienating and insulting.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3050745 - 08/25/04 08:33 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ok I have read enough of this and I will speak on this thread. Adam, you are living your life "fake". I know truth, and I am more aware of my surroundings than you could ever be Adam. Most of your claims that have to do with Jesus and other passed heroes, actually lets put it as any figure that existed, has nothing to do with our lives today besides that we must learn from them. Adam you are as much flesh and blood as anyone including how Jesus was himself. My father had cancer and he beat it without your device. Your device is a total lie and i do not appreciate being lied to. When I was around 11 years old I saw one of my mothers friends who i fished with the day before they died of AIDS and it angers me so that you are trying to exploit this lie for money, I can see your scam for 700$. You need to get over yourself and stop trying to fool some of my fellow gullible shroomers. It sickens me to see this thread pinned up everytime I enter this spirituality forum. I will do my best to live my life to make a change for the better for all and you will have to perform that miracle real fast before i leave this forum for good because i have become so skeptical of everyone here because of this thread. Stop lying to yourself and know yourself better.
http://www.rense.com/health/rife2.htm
An article in the March 1994 edition of Ca-A Cancer Journal for Clinicians, a medical journal for cancer specialists, said the Rife devices were being sold by a "pyramid-like, multi-level marketing scheme in which users become salespeople sharing in each other's profits."
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3050829 - 08/25/04 09:00 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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There goes all your respect and very little pride. I saw right through you the whole time, you don't deserve any credit for this mess.
Hey if they do work...(i highly doubt)...get it here....
SPACE LOSER!!!
http://www.rt66.com/~rifetech/
http://www.resonantlight.com/store/customer/home.php
http://www.rifetechnologies.com/parts.html
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3055690 - 08/26/04 08:28 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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ITS UNLOCKED!!!!!
YAY
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: tnecseda]
#3056026 - 08/26/04 09:57 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yea, any machine under the price I stated might not work. A Rife Machine is available at many companies, online and off, so I won't recommend any because it may place too much of a burden on the one I mentioned. I don't work for them & they don't even know me.. I'm a pretty new customer. Before all this, I was writing emails to NASA about the flaws in their space programs & just started checking out all the amazing flying craft that has also been suppressed and the plans available at that same company.
Otherwise, we'll get more scientific proof to people that the machine destroys the AIDS retrovirus & many viral diseases that aren't helped by Western medicine. People suffering from any of these afflictions should at least consider the anti-viral properties of Chamomile tea; otherwise, aside from the very toxic vaccinations (containing both formaldyhyde & mercury to name a few highly toxic chemicals) is nothing that allopathic medicine can do unless they embrace this technology of electromedicine.
I ask that you consider alternative medicine if you're getting little to no help from your doctor these days. It is difficult to diagnose disease, but easy to prescribe. These doctors are being told what to give their patients from their pharmaceutical company. Also, the pharmaceutical companies leave out many of the symptoms associated with the medication because there are just too many & they wouldn't want to burden the doctors with all that to remember. I say why not? These are guys that took MCATs (as you know 2 DAYS in a row of major testing.) They can remember plenty. I think it's because they don't want the doctors to have to tell their patients all those side-effects and bother them with the fact that they're harming them (or making them MORE sick) with drugs not tested for long-term side effects.
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Hey if they do work...(i highly doubt)...get it here...
You want me to send you a machine or something? I told the Shroomery I will send one and even Frog (but she has access to verification from her collegues.) I have no desire to sell them or do anything but prove this technology. I can only send out three total or I will have to give up mine. I'm busy healing people near me with it (well, letting them use the machine -- the mild buzzing in your hand is as pleasant as a Sharper Image store chair massage -- if you let them do it "for experimental purposes only" then there's no legal problem with it.)
Also, many cultures have talked about this upcoming event causing a positive shift in our evolution. Maybe it would be a good time to look up the sites I mentioned from Erowid to Futurehorizons to CNN for the Raelian messages. Please only buy electromedicine machines from reputable dealers. Other American doctors & scientists will keep saying it's a scam because they're still suppressing it. That's why I'm asking you to just wait until the Shroomery verifies it also.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#3056140 - 08/26/04 10:33 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have no doubt that technology like this could exist.
I also have no doubt that very powerful people will do whatever they can to stop this kind of thing from being released until THEY PERSONALLY can figure out how to profit from it at least as much as they are profitting right now.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#3056253 - 08/26/04 11:00 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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this thread makes me sick
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: jux]
#3056492 - 08/27/04 12:09 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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this thread makes me sick
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: Frog]
#3056518 - 08/27/04 12:13 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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And what is your opinion on the matter, Frog?
oh by the way God didn't write the bible..
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: Strumpling]
#3056526 - 08/27/04 12:15 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I hate to seem obtuse, but what is my opinion on what matter?
And I know that God didn't write the bible.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: Strumpling]
#3056685 - 08/27/04 12:57 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I think Jehovah was telling these guys what to write at times. There are many correlations in the Bible of beings from the sky & the Elohim race mentioned.
Imagine a crime boss in a city giving an order for all his goons to help people, give cash all over town for one day and protect children from crime. This is like a side-project from Satan like that. I'll never serve him and have plenty of teachers and wise Peaceful Gods to learn from. I just felt I had to clarify how I'm not bent on world power or anything and have just been created to help the world get rid of this dark ignorance and movement towards invasive conditions for u.s. citizens (it'll be more invasive than Stalinist Russia & many other horrible regimes like Hitler's.)
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#3056754 - 08/27/04 01:30 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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So, I want to get this healing machine out there to as many people as possible for free. All these ideas have been great that were thrown around on the boards. I just wanted to say that. I appreciate the support given by other members of the community when the thread got flamed like that.
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#3056862 - 08/27/04 02:29 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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oh good, now it's for free!!!
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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#3056866 - 08/27/04 02:34 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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so how do you know which ones are the real rife machines and which one's aren't?
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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: kaiowas]
#3056884 - 08/27/04 02:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I've seen it being sold on Ebay (and they will back up some purchases or at least you can read their feedback first - very important to some power sellers) & everything I ever ordered from that company I mentioned earlier has been sent promptly including these items:
(just trying to make sure you know a place that actually sends it - but I will be sending one to a few members of the community for scientific proof for you guys as well.)
A Sonic Devastor (smaller version not the riot-control version)
Ion Ray Gun
Rife Healing Machine (non-PC version)
various other meditation & astral traveling devices
Throughout my entire first thread you'll notice this as well:
I've mentioned scores of companies & I'm not affiliated with any of them. Just a customer. As the Dalai Lama explains he's just "passing through" like explorers or experimenters in this 3-dimensional reality.
PEACE
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Re: PARADOX, HUMOR & CHANGE [Re: spacedragon]
#3056958 - 08/27/04 03:59 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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ion ray gun
yeah ive seen that website.. 
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The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: spacedragon]
#3057056 - 08/27/04 05:32 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Rife Machine Operator Sued
Cheating death - Australia's battle with Rife machine quackery
A Special Message for Cancer Patients Seeking "Alternative" Treatments
After doing a little research, my personal opinion is that this "Rife Machine" is a scam. People are selling this "miracle cure" for hundreds to thousands of dollars....when the machine itself consists of about $20-$30 of simple electronic components. That alone speaks volumes about the type of people involved in this business.
If there was a true cure for cancer, we would all know about it very quickly. It would probably NOT be cheap, to start with, as the biochem and pharma companies would jump all over such a system. People tend to forget that these companies are spending BILLIONS of dollars EVERY YEAR just to come up with a drug that MIGHT cure a single form of cancer. Do you think they would continue to spend that kind of money (when money is thier only true motivation) if there really was a cure that could be had for $30 a piece?
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: trendal]
#3057679 - 08/27/04 09:50 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Trendal, those were good articles. Well, I read the first two. That was enough for me. I'm still waiting to hear from my friend about his experience from the machine, but those articles seem to present clear and convincing evidence that the machine is bogus.
And someone else to whom I was talking about the Rife machine said the same thing you are saying: Why wouldn't the drug companies buy the machine or develop one and make tons of money off it?
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: trendal]
#3057810 - 08/27/04 10:30 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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great links trendal, maybe now we can end this ridiculous thread
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: trendal]
#3057890 - 08/27/04 10:49 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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you know, the problem is that they get HUGE amounts of funding for this, and they do NOT want that to stop. They make large profits off of that research and constantly get donations. If a cure is found, all of that ends. I heard about a cure for AIDS found within the last year by a group of moderately funded scientists, but their work was completely attacked by pharamaceutical companies. Yes, maybe it WAS heresay, but the problem is that it came from a personal and accurate source..
Anyway, one major problem I find is that people *trust* pharmaceutical companies to find cures. This is a big no no- they are corporations looking for money, nothing else. About a year or two ago pfizer released a drug and advertised it heavily as a wonder drug - it caused many complications and a success rate was about that of a placebo. Pfft.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: vampirism]
#3058024 - 08/27/04 11:19 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is a big no no- they are corporations looking for money, nothing else.
That was entirely my point! You have some false images here, though. Pharmaceutical companies do not get goverment grants, that I am aware of. Grands and funding go to universities and other academic research institutes. When those research institutes find something worth a lot of money, they usually end up selling it to a pharma company.
Now, again: don't you think that if a TRUE CURE for cancer existed, and could be built with off-the-shelf electronics for about $40, the pharmaceutical companies would jump on it? THEY WOULD JUMP ALL OVER IT! It would make them, on the whole, TRILLIONS of dollars. They would stumble over each other in a rush to bring said cure to market.
I don't "trust" pharmaceutical companies, and nor should anyone else. They are motivated by profit alone; in many cases this has lead to dangerous products being released as "cures" to the public. When a true miracle drug comes along, though, these companies can't get it out fast enough so they can start lining their pockets.
Once again, the main point I need to make is that these PRIVATE companies do not receive funding or grants for their research...that goes to academia.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: trendal]
#3058123 - 08/27/04 11:42 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Are there more than 2 personal negative reports for this machine? Or is that it?
I dont believe it, I dont not believe. I am skeptical, but you need more than just 2 sites. And plus the funny thing BOTH of those sites state that the machine "appeared to work" in the beginning of their trial. Well, for some reason that stands out to me. Two is not a large enough margin to discredit this machine.
BTW, trendal, where are those diagrams to build this machine? I can build one for only $30? If that is true and they're selling it for that much profit...then its a horrible pathetic scam.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: psyka]
#3058236 - 08/27/04 12:03 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I haven't seen any diagrams. The $30 figure is from one of the links I posted.
However if you look at the supposed functioning of the machine (to create electric pulses/fields of varying frequencies) you can see that it doesn't take a lot of technical know-how or $$$ to build one. I used to build frequency-generating circuits when I was a little kid using a $25 "Explore Electronics" kit from Radio Shack
My main reason for skepticism here is that no one has demonstrated how or why this machine SHOULD work....let alone that it actually does. If I had cancer and someone cured me for a "mere" $700 using a simple machine you can be damned sure I would be all over the TV and radio professing the wonders of the machine. Why aren't we seeing that? Has anyone actually been cured by this?
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You've felt it your entire life.
That there's something wrong with the world.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: trendal]
#3058249 - 08/27/04 12:06 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also: I would chalk the "it seemed to work, at first" observations up to good old POSITIVE THINKING. It's called the placebo effect, and is well documented in medical science: if you think you are getting a sound treatment (cure) then your health will actually improve somewhat at least on the short run.
The fact that the cancer came back WORSE than it was before is frightening. What if this machine does the OPPOSITE to what it is supposed to? What if it actually CAUSES cancer? Personally I don't enjoy having my body eradiated with EM energy...as there are some very real and well-known health risks of such energy.
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You've felt it your entire life.
That there's something wrong with the world.
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Driving you mad.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: trendal]
#3058292 - 08/27/04 12:20 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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We're both just assuming right now.
I'm sure answers will come soon. Its bound to get attention from someone with neutral intentions (I also find it kind of odd that this hasnt already happened). We're all left in the dark in regards to how this device actually works. Lets let spacedragon prove to us that its genuine. He says he's going to give the machine to someone to prove that it works.
Remain open-minded, remain skeptical. But just wait, because I wouldnt be surprised that if it actually did work, that it was surpressed to keep the rich on top.
I want to see schematics. I want to see some lab tests. I want to see some evidence, just as we all do and deserve to see.
For being around since the 30's its largely undocumented...and I find that odd.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: psyka]
#3058309 - 08/27/04 12:24 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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For being around since the 30's its largely undocumented...and I find that odd.
I don't. That usually means the device in question doesn't work.
I remain open to the possibility that this device does what its proponents claim...but the more information I get about it the farther from the truth this option seems.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: trendal]
#3058434 - 08/27/04 12:56 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is a big no no- they are corporations looking for money, nothing else.
That was entirely my point!
Now, again: don't you think that if a TRUE CURE for cancer existed, and could be built with off-the-shelf electronics for about $40, the pharmaceutical companies would jump on it?
I think that is the exact reason why they haven't jumped on it. You said it yourself, the pharm companies are all in it for the money. Well what do you think has a better pay off? The current industry that generates billions of dollars in revenues yet still does not find any cure for the problems they seek to fix? This is essentially an industry that will never end because it will never obtain its 'true goal', therefore tons of money will continue to be made during the false pursuit.
I think a good analogy is the lightbulb industry. They have lightbulb technology that will allow for bulbs to NEVER burn out. But if they released those to the public the lightbulb companies would be out of business very quickly (or at least their profiets would plummit!). Sure they might make a lot of money at the onset, but that same amount of profiet will not continue for long! They need repeat business, thats how it works. The same goes for a device that can supposedly cure all diseases. Especially if it is so easy to build that $30 worth of parts from the hardware store will make it happen. Once that news gets out there would be NO money for the pharm companies because anybody with half a brain would build it themselves.
I don't know if the device actually works or not and im not saying i believe it does. I just think that if something like the Rife machine really did exist, the pharm companies/gov't would do anything to squelch knowledge of such a device.
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Re: Heaven is coming to Earth [Re: spacedragon]
#3058602 - 08/27/04 01:42 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: trendal]
#3059324 - 08/27/04 05:25 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I still say I wouldn't charge anyone for it.
it would be free in my book.
I've got cancer..you got money?? OH YOU DON'T well go sit in the corner and die then.
yuck
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Wow, I find your posts very long-winded and boring. Yet they are entertaining in a strange way. In the strange way like watching a child play make-believe and make spaceship sounds and such with their toys. The problem is, your not a child, and perhaps its time to let go of childish things. Im not a close-minded person, I wouldn't be here if I wasn't. But I'm not delusional. You say christ had laser rays, jet packs, ice-freezing guns? Seriously? Im not a very religous person, so Im not objecting to that on a religous level, but rather on the psychological level.  Theres a little medicine for you. We all seek to justify our existance, and some go to more extremes than others, its human nature. If these beliefs do not interfere with your life, and functioning (or others), fine, have fun. But if your in your 30's, and are living in your parents basement, unemployed... catch my drift? There are many "Magical beings" and "Dieties" in America. I see them all the time, they live on Santa Monica blvd., Venice Beach, The alleys of New York, and usually they don't have a place of residence. I've met a few, the smell of urine that they emanated was quite "enlightening".
Many of you are susceptible to these "preachings" for various reasons, we all want something to believe in. Sometimes it can be taken to far, such as a place called Jonestown, im sure you've heard of it. In fact Rev. Jim Jones spoke very much like spacedragon, and the message sounded very convincing to many, over 800 people. The message he preached was love and enlightement, and he did believe it. He didn't have some diabolical scheme planned, he actually believed himself, and so did his entire "town". In the rare chance some of you know not what happened next, in an emergency the rev. panicked and began his "Last Testament" (anyone seen that phrase used elsewhere?) on the beauty of dying, and how it would carry his followers to the higher plane, that they must shed their physical bodies to do so. Over 800 people drank the cyanide kool-aid, including the infants that had it force fed to them, and they laid down to die. This is all recounted by the few survivors, who in a moment of clarity saw that they had been misled. Yes, I know, this is far from what it happening here, hence the "if it causes no-one harm" statement, but for those of you I've read actually buying into this, I had to speak my mind, in an effort to at least make you re-examine these statements. Read on if you must, but know this, spacedragon knows nothing of the future, will never colonize mars, and he is not the savior that we all need.
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Re: Blah, blah, blah [Re: Amygdala]
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"I've met a few, the smell of urine that they emanated was quite "enlightening".
Have fun with your Gods. I'm having fun with mine & I want everyone to come to the party & not suffer. As we said, the evidence will come out and, as people on this thread are from other countries also, we can verify the Rife electromedicine in non-suppressed countries & end the debate there (when clinical scientific evidence arrives at the doorstep of the Dextroverse, Shroomery etc.)
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Can you give us a specific time frame?
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Fuck that, I didn't know that guy used the phrase "Last Testament." No where did I ever ask anyone to shed their mortal coil.. You can follow in the demi-gods' footsteps & "rise like a phoenix from the ashes of your earlier lifestyle" I mean WHILE ALIVE.
I'll call it "The Final Frontier" or something cheesy & catchy like that so people won't associate me with any cults.
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I can see the thread is hinging on this Rife Healing technology to work so I'll speed it up & send one to the Shroomery in a week or two.
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Cool! Make sure to keep us updated on your progress
BTW, I dont really understand what sending one to some location is going to do. Do you have some expirement worked out?
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Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (the3 sources of suffering) [Re: psyka]
#3060166 - 08/27/04 09:01 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I personally can say I destroyed all the candidiasis, mononucleosis & sinusitis/rhinitis infections with it since I've had it. It has frequencies that overlap with the meditation machines I also have to strengthen mental focus & empower your aura & facilitate astral traveling. I've never felt better in other words.
So, I know many things from this electromedicine have worked for me. But, I understand that's not good enough and it shouldn't be. Not to mention using the freqs to make sure any watered-down version of the european bubonic plague aren't still hiding out (because they said you may get a little swelling in your armpits after you get rid of them.) Also, the "adjustment" happened to me when your body is ridding itself of the billions of dead carcasses of these microorganisms - simply drink a lot of water & it's just a mild cleansing that's easy to handle (much more tolerable than the side effects of these "cocktails" or chemo.)
But, there's a dude who wants one because his grandmother has cancer & yes, I want to schedule a clinical test that I can fund -- so the Shroomery can either see the results or I mean some of the administators can witness it or something. Otherwise, if I just send one to them & they run tests that should suffice.
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Re: Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (the3 sources of suffering) [Re: spacedragon]
#3060268 - 08/27/04 09:31 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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-----Enough with all this, I am so upset right now because of all the tragedy that occurred in my life when I was younger because of this sickness. My father had bone marrow cancer when I was in 3rd grade, my grandfather died Christmas day at 5 am for an unknown reason that had to do with his stomach, my mother has diabetes, and I have seen a person the day before they died from AIDS.
-----The stupid rife machine is in Canada and other countries yet no one has real results and I wish this machine existed soooo BAD  i swear its not fair that you speak of such a machine because you really have had no need for it yourself.
-----Then I think about how you tried to fool people, people like me who are very gullible and susceptable to buying that machine because I LOVE people and all I do is show LOVE for people and I will always be honest no matter what. The people I LOVED in my life were affected by these diseases you claim to cure and i would kill for that. 
-----If anything comes out of this thread positive I will be the one to make it so. Before my father had 3 months to live but instead he suffered from cancer for 11 years and his doctor calls him a "miracle patient". I will have him post his exact strategy to beating his cancer.
-----Now if you really claim to be the MESSIAH you have not learned one thing from your previous lives. Look at what happened to Jesus, MLK, Gandhi and others. I will be more deceptive then they are upon gaining power and keeping it to make a real change. I have realized that the cross to me means if you live your life like jesus you will be crucified, and that is why i call myself a messiah, because we are all capable and i am one to unleash potential . 
-----On the otherhand i truly see you ending up committing suicide or someone else will surely send you to the inevitable faster for the deception and lying for your own personal gains. 
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: kaiowas]
#3060366 - 08/27/04 09:57 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I still say I wouldn't charge anyone for it.
it would be free in my book.
So are you maintaining that hospitals treat everyone for free and pharmaceutical companies provide their medicines for free? Shouldn't they be allowed to at least recoup their investment in research and development?
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: zorbman]
#3060375 - 08/27/04 09:59 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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i imagine that if they worked properly, people would donate
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: vampirism]
#3060405 - 08/27/04 10:12 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Is there any guarantee hospitals or pharms will recoup their investment through donations? How will they fund future research that could potentially help or cure others down the line? How will they attract top talent to provide care and research new medicines without being allowed to make a reasonable return on their investment?
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: zorbman]
#3060409 - 08/27/04 10:14 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not saying hospitals should. But, if youre going that way, how do you keep hospitals from milking their patients dry ?
But I AM saying that if someone had a machine which could cure fatal diseases easily, then people would likely donate money in *that* case. And why would further research be needed in this case?
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: vampirism]
#3060416 - 08/27/04 10:16 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't see it as an either/or situation. Reasonable people can strike a reasonable balance.
As far as a machine I wasn't referring to that.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: zorbman]
#3060420 - 08/27/04 10:17 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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well i was.
I think hospitals should stay the same, but Kaiowas simply said that he'd offer the machine for free. You questioned that using hospitals as an example.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: vampirism]
#3060431 - 08/27/04 10:21 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think anyone should be allowed to recoup their investment and make a reasonable return. I guess it seems heartless to some, but that money can be plowed back into research yielding cures for more people. Everyone benefits.
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Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (the3 causes of suffering) [Re: zorbman]
#3060460 - 08/27/04 10:35 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Look at what happened to Jesus, MLK, Gandhi and others.
Letting the lessons be told & dying for it is worth it. If the machine doesn't complete a full cure for cancer I'll take it all back (concerning the statements about the machine) -- but I still have faith in the many American doctors & scientists that originally supported it before the gov't stepped in.
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Re: Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (the3 causes of suffering) [Re: spacedragon]
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: zorbman]
#3061085 - 08/28/04 02:59 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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zorbman said:
I still say I wouldn't charge anyone for it.
it would be free in my book.
So are you maintaining that hospitals treat everyone for free and pharmaceutical companies provide their medicines for free? Shouldn't they be allowed to at least recoup their investment in research and development?
I am maintaining that if I am going to "let his out slowly to the public" I would do it for free, especially if i knew it worked.
that's the compassionate thing to do, and I wouldn't have it any other way.
an no spacedragon, you post isn;t hinged on this one thing, but it IS up for discussion right now
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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.---senior doobie
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: kaiowas]
#3062296 - 08/28/04 01:56 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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What about all the other people who could be helped if you charged a reasonable price? Then you could use that money to build even more machines, research more medicines, provide more care. You still haven't addressed that.
Is it more compassionate to give relief to 10 people for free when you could help 30 people for a nominal fee? Or does it just make one feel saintly to give it away? No offense intended, but it doesn't make sense to me.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: zorbman]
#3062648 - 08/28/04 03:44 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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"What about all the other people who could be helped if you charged a reasonable price?"
this doesn't help people at all
"Then you could use that money to build even more machines, research more medicines, provide more care. You still haven't addressed that. "
hehe I realized that I didn't put this idea out yet, but...if you cure someone of cancer, and say to these people "you COULD donate," some people WILL donate money to you. some WILL donate A LOT of money to you. money isn't an issue here at all. besides, if it costs me 700 bucks, with my puny jobs that I have I can buy 4 of them a month. a get to way more than jsut 10 people.
will you be one to tell someone, oh, you don't have money sorry, no can do.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: kaiowas]
#3062721 - 08/28/04 04:05 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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this doesn't help people at all
Huh? Just because you state something doesn't make it true. Where's your explanation of why it wouldn't help people? Or should we just accept everything you say because you're a good person?
money isn't an issue here at all.
I don't know where you live, but on the planet I live on money, rightly or wrongly, IS a big deal. If someone takes the time and effort to make something they deserve fair compensation. Certainly a balance can be struck between giveaway on one end and gouging on the other. It's not an either/or situation.
I don't think relying on donations is very realistic. For example, makers of freeware software write programs all the time that help people and only ask for donations. Guess what? They receive a pittance. People usually don't bother when they can get it for free.
But the software developer doesn't normally have to spend any money for materials and they write it once and they're done. Not so in this case.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: zorbman]
#3062757 - 08/28/04 04:11 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Huh? Just because you state something doesn't make it true. Where's your explanation of why it wouldn't help people? Or should we just accept everything you say because you're a good person?"
true enough. just it never really got how CHARGING someone would ever help THAT person. just me I guess.
" don't think relying on donations is very realistic. For example, makers of freeware software write programs all the time that help people and only ask for donations. Guess what? They receive a pittance. People usually don't bother when they can get it for free."
there's a huge difference between free software, and saving someone's life.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: kaiowas]
#3062794 - 08/28/04 04:18 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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just it never really got how CHARGING someone would ever help THAT person
Come on man. Obviously I was referring to the benefits the patient would receive from the medicine/treatment.
there's a huge difference between free software, and saving someone's life.
True, but the principle is the same.
People won't pay for what they can get for free.
And if anyone believes that I have some lovely water filled property in Florida to sell you..
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: zorbman]
#3062822 - 08/28/04 04:27 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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"Come on man. Obviously I was referring to the benefits the patient would receive from the medicine/treatment"
hehe i see, I didn't fully read what you put, so your point was, f I charged epople, then I could make more, for other people.
while yeah I do see this, I still wouldn't.
people donate to causes all the time, and having a cancer cure would be a big one. huge rather!
think of all the money that gets donated to help find a cancer cure, to help find an aids cure...etc etc, and no result has been found yet. people still donate though
the priciple in downloading free software, has no correlation with saving others lives.
and no, i don't expect anyone to believe in what I say, these are jsut my opinions, and you should know that.
this is a philosophy forum, (in my opinion) a lot of this IS about opinions. or else I'd ALWAYS have to say, in my opinion
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Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment [Re: kaiowas]
#3062864 - 08/28/04 04:42 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Every form of life has "mortal oscillitory rates" even humans but they're much different frequencies than the ones used to destroy these pathogens. Rife found how to use sound waves to destroy the structures of these micro-organisms. It doesn't emit any EM waves that are harmful to the body. They are set frequencies in the devices & you don't even have to fluctuate the freqs like Dr. Rife had to - it's all done digitally now. There's info around the net but the following is from the literature I received from the company where I got the machine:
The brilliant man who discovered how to destroy these pathogens, by finding their "mortal oscillitory rate" using soundwaves, (similar to a glass breaking from a singer's voice) should be honored & statues made for him.
Even to this day electron microscopes crush everything dead that they're looking at. Dr. Royal Rife discovered a way to monitor a virus while the virus was alive (using a very specialized/customized microscope) & was able to perform tests on these live specimens to find ways to control or kill it.
Many doctors & scientists were totally amazed by him discovering the cancer & aids cure. After using his modified microscope to see a live virus up closely, he knew what to do with them using square-headed soundwaves at specific frequencies that would "shake up" and shatter the structures of these pathogens killing them.
Dr. Rife discovered a way to make a simple hand-held device humans can use to destroy AIDS, Candidiasis, mononucleosis, Hepatitis A, B & C & many forms of cancer. Many doctors held a banquet that year called "The End of all Disease."
At the time earlier in the century, taking flights out to the west coast of the US wasn't very feasible for many of these scientists to see the amazing customized microscope up closely. Therefore, many didn't believe it in spite of the hundreds of well-respected scientists & doctors claiming they saw the cures being administered.
The gov't sent in agents to work in Rife's facility under-cover & the bastards stole parts of his modified microscope & fucked his lab up.
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Re: The Rife Machine: Quackery at its Best [Re: kaiowas]
#3062876 - 08/28/04 04:47 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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while yeah I do see this, I still wouldn't.[charge]
Then your decision would cost the lives of those who could have been saved by putting the profits back into research. How compassionate is that?
the priciple in downloading free software, has no correlation with saving others lives.
Sure it does. Freeware relies on donations just as in your proposal. I grant you people would donate more because the benefit is greater, but I'd also be willing to bet it wouldn't even begin to cover the costs of research.
I think your proposal has its heart in the right place, but is misguided. It's a good example of how we need love but we also need wisdom and intelligence. Spiritual aspirations should be grounded in reality to be effective.
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Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment [Re: zorbman]
#3062897 - 08/28/04 04:56 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea, I'm grounded in science too. It's a nice vantage point here ya'll should try it.
I highly recommend the way of growing called "HIGH IN THE SKY" that many people have had great results with. It fucking rules and you don't have to use any of your "grid" energy to grow (and the fuzz can't detect it because their helicoptors are made to look for high-energy light signatures.) Simply put buckets of whatever you're growing tied up in the trees & bark on the bottom. When looking up it's very hard to detect & many have planted on Gov't soil to repay their favor of USING us for profit.
Pls check out the book (I found one on Amazon.com) called Invisible Marijuana & Psychedelic Mushroom Gardens. This guy is brilliant & made up to $600,000 a year from the bomb yields of this technique.
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Re: Ignorance, Aversion &A Attachment [Re: spacedragon]
#3063311 - 08/28/04 07:13 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorcerers describe their knowledge, their pursuit, as the capacity to see energy directly, see the essence of things. What we do in the world of everyday life is to perceive what we already know. We revalidate the world. Socialization gives us the concepts of what things are, and thus, we never really perceive what is actually there. We know "truth" a priori and all we do from then on is validate it. Sorcery is the act of erasing the a priori. Our world is real because, collectively, we have all agreed to it...Sorcerers know that something far more vast exists than what we have agreed to let our senses perceive.
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Re: Ignorance, Aversion &A Attachment [Re: spacedragon]
#3063367 - 08/28/04 07:37 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Psychic powers and other special extraordinary abilities, such as clairvoyance, prediction, psychokinesis, distant healing and astral travel are possible. The great chi kung master of China, Yan Xin, could change the molecular structure of various liquids 2,000 kilometers away! The great American psychic, Edgar Cayce, diagnosed and healed literally thousands of patients he had never met! It is understandable that most people would dismiss these cases as impossible, yet Yan Xin's experiments were carried out under the strict supervision of China's top scientists, and Cayce's documents (thousands of them) are still available for public investigation at the Association for Research and Enlightenment, Virginia.
The highest stage of meditation is the divine level, where a person accomplishes his greatest achievement, and where, as described above, the great teachers of the various religions attained their union with the Divine. Because of historical, linguistic and cultural differences, this spiritual fulfilment is described in different terms by people of different cultures. Muslims call it the return to Allah; Hindus, the union of atman with Brahman; Taoists, the unity with the cosmos; Buddhists, the attainment of nirvana or Buddhahood.
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Re: Ignorance, Aversion &A Attachment [Re: spacedragon]
#3063548 - 08/28/04 08:38 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Edgar Cayce, diagnosed literally thousands of patients he had never met!
I too, can diagnose people I never met! Zowie! Accuracy is another story altogether. Cayce diagnosed DEAD people as having indigestion problems and many of his diagnoses, were so incredibly vague as to apply to half of all diseases, "I see darkness in your chest region"
HOW DOES HE DO IT?
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Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (The3 causes of suffering) [Re: Swami]
#3063742 - 08/28/04 09:46 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Well, I liked the case of the man changing the chemicals & even if the guy's healed only 50% or 30% of the targets - that's a cool magical healing era ready to blossom.
Very curious are the reciprocal cases of OBE {out of body experiences} and apparition: the OBE subject, aware the he is operating in some kind of duplicate body, travels to a distant location where he sees a person and is aware of being seen by that person; this person confirms that he saw an apparition of the OBEer at the time that the OBEer claimed to be in his presence. Thus the two experiences corroborate each other.
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Re: Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (The3 causes of sufferi [Re: spacedragon]
#3063921 - 08/28/04 10:40 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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But the truth must be told. The fact that the earth revolves around the sun was successfully suppressed by the church for over 200 years. It eventually caused major upheaval in the church, government and thought - a realignment of social and traditional values. That was in the 1800's.
Now about 400 years after the first truth was pronounced we must again face the shocking facts. The "horrible truth" the government has been hiding from us over 40 years. Unfortunately the "horrible truth" is far more horrible than the government ever imagined.
In its effort to protect democracy, our government sold us to the aliens. And here is how it happened. But before I begin I'd like to offer a word in the defense of those who bargained us away. They had the best of intentions .[my addition - keep an open mind at least until you see Alien VS Predator == We might wanna side with these Elohim for the time being]
Germany may have recovered a flying saucer in 1939. General James H. Doolittle went to Sweden in 1946 to investigate reports of "ghost rocket" UFO's - 1000's of which had been sighted over a 7 month period.
The "horrible truth" was known by only a very few persons. They were indeed ugly little creatures: shaped like praying mantises and who were more advanced than us by perhaps as much as a billion years. Of the original group that were the first to learn the "horrible truth" several committed suicide - the most prominent of which was Defense Secretary James V. Forrestal who jumped to his death from a 16th story hospltal wlndow. Secretary Forrestal's medical records are sealed to this day.
President Truman qulckly put a lid on the secret and turned the screws so tight that the general public still thinks that flying saucers are a joke. Have I ever got a surprise for them.
In 1947 President Truman established a group of the 12 top military and scientific personnel of their time . They were known as MJ-12 . Although the group exists today, none of the original members are still alive. The last one to die was Gordon Gray, former Secretary of the Army, in l984. As each member passed away, the group itself appointed a new member to fill the position. There is some speculation that the group known as MJ-12 expanded to at least several more members.
There were several more saucer crashes in the late 1940's: one in Roswell, New Mexico; one in Aztec, New Mexico; and one near Loredo, Texas, about 30 miles inside the Mexican border.
Consider if you will the position of the United States government at that time. They proudly thought of themselves as the most powerful nation on earth having recently produced the atomic bomb, an achievement so stupendous that it would take Russians 4 years to catch up and only with the help of traitors to democracy. They had built a jet aircraft that had exceeded the speed of sound in flight. They had built jet bombers with intercontinental range that could carry weapons of enormous destruction. The cold war had brought economic prosperity and the future seemed bright.
Now imagine what it was like for those same leaders, all of whom had witnessed the panic of Orson Wells' radio broadcast, "The War of the Worlds," in 1938. Thousands of Americans panicked at a realistically presented invasion of earth of beings from another planet. Imagine their horror as they actually viewed the dead bodies of those frightening looking little creatures with enormous eyes, reptilian skin and claw-like fingers. Imagine their shock as they attempted to determine how these strange saucers were powered and could discover no part even remotely similar to components they were familiar - with no cylinders or pistons, no vacuum tubes or turbines. The stories are legendary of transporting crashed saucers over long distances, moving only at night, purchasing complete farms, slashing through forests, blocking major highways, sometimes driving 2 and 3 lo-boys in tandem with an extraterrestrial load a hundred feet in diameter.
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Re: Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (The3 causes of sufferi [Re: spacedragon]
#3063939 - 08/28/04 10:45 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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space dragon,you should just start making indivual posts
you'll get the attention deserved and needed.
i sometimes have trouble keeping up with everything.
if you have something to post,start a new thread.some people are turned off by this thread.so i think its just wise advice if you want to reach more people here.
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Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (The3 causes of suffering) [Re: tnecseda]
#3064034 - 08/28/04 11:15 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter my friend they don't have to read it. I'm just about done here but wanted this important "classified information" to come out.
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Re: Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (The3 causes of sufferi [Re: spacedragon]
#3064043 - 08/28/04 11:17 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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its not that.i get what you mean.but if there was indivual threads,its like indivual advertising.the point is to get the message out.but the thing is you need appeal
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Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (The3 causes of suffering) [Re: tnecseda]
#3064053 - 08/28/04 11:21 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Advice noted
I usually make spaces in between paragraphs to make the reading easier. Later, I'll just write a book or send pamphlets out for the Church of the Tree of Life plus books on that "High in the Sky" technique.
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Re: Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (The3 causes of sufferi [Re: tnecseda]
#3064063 - 08/28/04 11:23 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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it'd just be cool to see your indivual posts.
like
rife machine:.................
ufos:.................
stuff like that
then we'd all be on the same subject,and you would get more information
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Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (The3 causes of suffering) [Re: tnecseda]
#3064079 - 08/28/04 11:33 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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Oh yea,
You mean like different threads. I can't really flood the Main Index with but eventually I'll have my own site. This was an experimental way of getting my World Message out there. Currently, the way to reach more intelligent & less "controlled - by - the - media' s - lies" people is on the NET so I hope you guys will seriously consider joining our Church of the Tree of Life when it gets up & running. Well it's already begun & the National T'ai Chi day was already created worldwide -- I just proposed people also practice every WEEK to send out the healing waves of energy.
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Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (The3 causes of suffering) [Re: spacedragon]
#3064095 - 08/28/04 11:39 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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This is why we REALLY need to be aware of these lizard-like creatures on our planet:
Termination of individuals who represent a threat to the continuation of their activity. Effect genetic engineering experiments.
Impregnation of human females and early termination of pregnancies to procure the crossbred infant.
-Lear Report
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Re: Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (The3 causes of sufferi [Re: spacedragon]
#3064099 - 08/28/04 11:41 PM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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for being a world leader,know its a better idea to appeal to the younger population.i mean church is fine,but its like you have to get the youth excited about it too
13-33 is the youth in my eyes
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Ignorance, Aversion & Attachment (The3 causes of suffering) [Re: tnecseda]
#3064146 - 08/29/04 12:05 AM (7 years, 8 months ago) |
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The Chinese can very much help us to become liberated also & I'm looking forward to all nations helping our leap in evolution to avoid being harvested again:
Gods & Goddesses of China
Kuan Ti - God of War, the Great Judge
Kwan Yin - Goddess of Mercy and Compassion
Lei Kun - God of Thunder; chases evil away
P'an-Chin-Lien - Goddess of Prostitutes
Ti-Tsang Wang - God of Mercy
T'shai-shen - God of Wealth
Tsao Wang - God of the Hearth and Family
Yeng-Wang-Yeh - Lord of Judgment and Death
Yu-Huang-Shang-Ti - God of the Sky, Father of Heaven
Gods & Goddesses of India
Gauri - Goddess of Purity and Austerity
Hanuman - Monkey God, provider of Courage, Hope, Knowledge, Intellect and Devotion
Kali - Goddess of Destruction
Krishna - God of Power and Bravery
Lakshmi - Goddess of Prosperity, Purity, Chastity, and Generosity
Rama - Hero God, Preserver of Families, Destroyer of Evil
Sarasvati - Goddess of Speech, Wisdom and Learning
Shiva - God of Giving and Happiness, Creator
Vishnu - God of Courage, Knowledge and Power; Also known as Hari the Remover
Gods & Goddesses of Africa
Ani-lbo - Goddess of Birth, Death, Happiness and Love
Leza - Creator who is Compassionate and Merciful (Rhodesia)
Ngai - High God, Creator and Giver of All Things (East Africa)
Nzambi - Unapproachable God, Sovereign Master
Obatala - Goddess of Earth and People, Creator
Raluvhimba - God of the Heavens, Creator
Gods & Goddesses of Egypt
Amun - King of the Gods
Anubis - God of the Dead
Atum - First God, God of Perfection
Bastet - Goddess of Protection
Bes - Goddess of Childbirth and Family; Protection for Children, Pregnant Women and Families
Geb - God of the Earth
Hathor - Goddess of Love and Joy
Horus - God of the Sky, Ruler of Egypt
Isis - Goddess of Protection and Magic
Ma'at - Goddess of Truth, Justice and Harmony
Nephthys - Goddess of the Dead
Nun - God of Water and Chaos
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