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 Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat  [Re: Joshua]
#2290069 - 01/31/04 03:51 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Heh, I've been thinking about this for a while now!
There's some public gardens using hardwood chips nearby and I just so happen to know someone that has some spare jars of P cyanescens, P subaeruginosa, P bohemica, P cyanofibrillosa, P azurescens and P arcana 
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Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat [Re: Joshua]
#2291387 - 02/01/04 07:48 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know that i would love to get a print to use , once I get comfortable enough to try a more advanced species . Seems that each day I am learning more and yet have so far to go .
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Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat [Re: Joshua]
#2291821 - 02/01/04 12:41 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Reply,
the city already cuts its own park trees for remulching here in Seattle but the primary habitat is alder and alder mixed with willow. While I have seen some P. cyanescens in Astotria growing in a fairy ring around an old Oak tree, Oak is not their primary habitat and the cities already buy and or make their own mulches and no one knows what the mixtures are.
A lot of trees which fell during the snow and rain days but I doubt if any were alder. And again, Not that many trees are oak int he PNW, which is a secondary habitat mulch and extremely rare int he PNW.
I had three pine trees across the street from my high rise apartment already come do0wn during the shnowfall here a few weeks ago.
Even the U of W cuts trees now since a large proportion of school monies go to sports before anything else on campus.
I have innoculated spawn throughout the PNW on and off during the past thirty years.
One thing we did find out is that only about 2-3 patches out of every ten transplants and innoculations occured.
However, P. azurescens can grow every time it is transplanted into a similar environment containing Alder. But then again, like crops which have to be rotated in their habitats, so do P. cyanescens which tend to grow three to four years in a given area and when the nutrients are =gone fromt he woodchips, then go the shrooms.
There is really not much in the way one can increase an area already mulched which is on public property. While it is basically illegal to take any plant material form a public place, it is also illegal by law to introduce plants into public places if you are not the owner of that property. You would nbeed the permission of the city or county to dispose of woodchips in a public place.
However, me and @cro did come across a man dumping shaggy cedar mulch into a public city park in West Seattle. WE asked him why not alder.
He said that he and his wife mulched their home with the cedar and had a lot left over so they called the city parks up and they directred them to this particular park where we were at and told them they could dump their excess mulch at that parkl.
Of course the cedar is bad since this particular park had some cyans there and was at least 80% alder branches throughout about 60 mulched beds and now they are less since a few years ago and slowly less each fall and now one area has trhis red shit thrown over the alder which will cause no growth to occur..
He was dumping the cedar over alder.
Anyway, what grows grows and what doesn't does not.
Thats why you can find a single area with alder all over yet only a few of the mulched beds in a large area will produce.
mj
Edited by mjshroomer (02/01/04 12:51 PM)
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Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat [Re: mjshroomer]
#2291833 - 02/01/04 12:47 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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>Anyway, what grows grows and what doesn't does not.
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Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat [Re: Anno]
#2291851 - 02/01/04 12:53 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anno, you forgot to put the quote marks on my quote.
hehehehe
mj
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Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat [Re: mjshroomer]
#2349681 - 02/18/04 09:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat [Re: Joshua]
#2349779 - 02/18/04 10:10 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I too would like to get a print or cultu.. and participate in the spreading
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Looking for:
Ps. weilii, Ps. samuiensis, Ps. hispanica, Pan. cyanescens (any strain I don't have)
Have:
Ps. cubensis, Ps. tampanensis, Pan. cyanescens (Australian, Tai-KS, Hawaiian, Jamaican, Ban Lipa Noi)
PM for a trade.
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 Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat [Re: sci33]
#2349955 - 02/18/04 10:55 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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For those who show proficiency, I have free cyan prints.
Joshua
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Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat [Re: Joshua]
#2350184 - 02/18/04 11:45 AM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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the electric company has huge piles of wood chips, from when they trim branches from the power lines, and anybody can just back a truck up to it and load up, id spawn that stuff too, it would spread it around more different places.
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Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat [Re: Psychoslut]
#2350321 - 02/18/04 12:10 PM (8 years, 3 months ago) |
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I would inspect any sources and make sure the hardwood predominates. Any cedar, fir, or pine is may reduce colonization time as the conifer content increases.
I had access to more alder than I could ever have wanted after the last Winter storm. Hopefully your area was similar.
Joshua
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Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat [Re: Joshua]
#4241643 - 05/31/05 07:01 PM (7 years, 23 hours ago) |
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So P. cyanescens can be grown in the Deep South (8 to 9) ? If so why are they not here in beds of hardwood mulch. THought that they needed a cooler climate. Never been there but I always pictured the PNW as cool and wet. Interesting. That map says so. Would they not overheat in 95 -1oo degree heat?
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Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat [Re: Pie]
#4247998 - 06/02/05 11:44 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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Taxonomy Question:
Are Paneolus cyanescens and Psilcybe cyanesceens the same species?
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Re: A Proposition to Excel Ps. Cyanescens Habitat [Re: Pie]
#4248029 - 06/02/05 11:53 AM (6 years, 11 months ago) |
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