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OfflineDiamondMouse
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First time growing.
    #22493861 - 11/08/15 01:16 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well this is the first time attempting to cultivate mushrooms. I have done a lot of investigative research and read many different methods and guides, with that being said I decided to order some spores from an online retailer and also assembled an incubator/fruiting chamber. Which brings me to my first question. I ordered two spore syringes and inoculated 7 jars with them the syringes were full, I may or may maynot have Injected too much into the jars typically how many half pint jars does a syringe usually do. And the second question involves the incubation chamber. The jars have been inside the incubated for two days. As to I am not overly concerned about the growth at this time. When I first put them in there the temperature was at about 76f an hour later I went down and it was in the 90's and I quickly corrected this and brought it back down to 79f so with all that being said. By chance have I killed any opportunities on any mycelium growth happening?

Brf- 3 jars b+ And 4 jars golden teacher
The incubating chamber I created uses a fish tank water heater on a plate and cups in all four corners of the water dish. To prevent any melting or burning Happening. And incubating/fruiting chamber above, I installed the air pump and made sure the hose pumps air to the bottom of the fruiting chamber and have been thinking of running it while incubating twice a day just so I do t have to go down there constantly. If all goes well I will post pictures :) thank you in advance for any answers or information.

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Re: First time growing. [Re: DiamondMouse]
    #22493898 - 11/08/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

1cc per jar is good and its ok to use less or little bit more.

Forget about the incubation chamber put the jars in a rack or a in a place where they can receive 12/12 hrs light and darkness.

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Re: First time growing. [Re: DiamondMouse]
    #22493900 - 11/08/15 01:23 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Where's noc when you need him...


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Re: First time growing. [Re: DiamondMouse]
    #22493908 - 11/08/15 01:25 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

1 10cc syringe is enough for 10 pf style jars. Incubators are not needed and actually do more harm than good, a normal room temp is fine. The warmer the jars get the more encouraged mold growth gets. The 90° spike didn't ruin anything but I would ditch the incubator as long as your room temp is around 70° and if your environment is cold and you have to incubate then don't go over 75° keep it around 70-72°

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Re: First time growing. [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #22493990 - 11/08/15 01:42 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Awesome thanks for the quick response. I live in Canada and we are coming to the winter months, not looking forward to the deep freeze, I have a light I can put on a timer. As much as I'd like to ditch the incubator I'm kind of skeltical about the outside environment, I'll just dial the heater right down maybe pull the chamber out of the water and put that light on 4 hour incriments 3 times a day.

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Re: First time growing. [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #22494034 - 11/08/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

I wouldn't build an incubator, but if he already has one...  He sounds european, so it may be cold as fuck, and they pay like 8,000,000 euros for a drop of oil.  No need to pump air into the incubator or be concerned about it getting light.  No light is fine, so is light.  It really doesn't seem to do much of anything as far as colonization is concerned.  If your ambient temps are like 18 to 25C you're good.

Those automated fruiting chambers tend to be a disaster.  It's not that autmation is impossible, it's that it's very hard to balance and you have poor control.  Everyone here (except me) recommends shotgun fruiting chambers, and they work if you know how to propperly use them.


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I spawned some popcorn casings and had double-overlay cause I didn't put enough hydrogen peroxide in my automated aquarium mister.  I only got one mushroom so I cut off the head part where the seeds fall from and put it in a jar of LC and sprayed it all over a tin of PF cakes I made with gravel, cardboard, and bisquick in my microwave.  I think it will be good cause B+ is so potent.
Triggered yet?

Only a square would say "a cube is a cube."


No, this does not look right...

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Re: First time growing. [Re: Machiavelliavore]
    #22494189 - 11/08/15 03:20 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

With cakes you need some patience and not much else, they should all colonize slowly and then you can just pop em out of the jars and throw em in a SGFC(easy to make, other options are available but tried and true sgfc is simple and tested) or you can crumble them up(keep the b+ and gt's seperate) and spawn them to a pastuerized bulk substrate(straw/coir/poo/etc)(if you go this route you will have another colonization/waiting period)

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Re: First time growing. [Re: The Dom]
    #22494535 - 11/08/15 07:30 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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LocN9ne said:
Where's noc when you need him...



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Rebelutionsssss said:
no need, unless you live in the arctic



I live pretty damn close to the Arctic (it isn't uncommon to see -40), my house is heated with a wood burning stove, and I still think incubators suck. I'd rather use a space heater or something. But a stove is the shit haha.

All the Canadians here use their furnaces and a small space heater if needed (tho rarely)



Best to heat the room to avoid problems, room temp is fine, unless you're sitting around your house dressed like Kenny from South Park.


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Re: First time growing. [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22494668 - 11/08/15 08:24 AM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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Best to heat the room to avoid problems, room temp is fine, unless you're sitting around your house dressed like Kenny from South Park.



:whathesaid:  :lol:

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Re: First time growing. [Re: PinPornProducer]
    #22509128 - 11/11/15 12:21 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Well there she be got a few more that look just like this
Day5


I just turned down the incubater left the lid off of it.

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Re: First time growing. [Re: DiamondMouse]
    #22509217 - 11/11/15 12:42 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

You can take the tin foil off.

Looks good.

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Re: First time growing. [Re: DrCrumbs]
    #22510484 - 11/11/15 05:40 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

yep remove the foil


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Re: First time growing. [Re: cronicr]
    #22510536 - 11/11/15 05:51 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

In my logged experience I have incubated jars during colonization time at 80-81 degrees with great success and speedy colonization, I am willing to believe it is a security blanket it is something I like to do.


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Re: First time growing. [Re: DiamondMouse]
    #22510546 - 11/11/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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DiamondMouse said:
Well there she be got a few more that look just like this
Day5


I just turned down the incubater left the lid off of it.



Hell yeah... You'll be trippin balls in no time...:vibin:


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Re: First time growing. [Re: cronicr]
    #22510582 - 11/11/15 05:59 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

Alright dudes. Looks like I have one jar with some
Contamination in it



I removed it from the rest, none of the other more advanced jars are showing this I'm hoping it's just this one, any thoughts on this dirty little red.

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Re: First time growing. [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22510659 - 11/11/15 06:18 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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LocN9ne said:
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DiamondMouse said:
Well there she be got a few more that look just like this
Day5


I just turned down the incubater left the lid off of it.



Hell yeah... You'll be trippin balls in no time...:vibin:




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Re: First time growing. [Re: DiamondMouse]
    #22510699 - 11/11/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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DiamondMouse said:
Alright dudes. Looks like I have one jar with some
Contamination in it



I removed it from the rest, none of the other more advanced jars are showing this I'm hoping it's just this one, any thoughts on this dirty little red.



Trash it...


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Re: First time growing. [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22510935 - 11/11/15 07:13 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

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LocN9ne said:
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DiamondMouse said:
Alright dudes. Looks like I have one jar with some
Contamination in it



I removed it from the rest, none of the other more advanced jars are showing this I'm hoping it's just this one, any thoughts on this dirty little red.



Trash it...



Yeah, those red spots in the center of the jar look very concerning..

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Re: First time growing. [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #22512114 - 11/11/15 11:48 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

So I guess this brings me to my next idea, I have read in a post that heating your fruiting chamber is unessesary and just create condensation, at the same time I'm thinking that by turning this setup



Into a monotube with atleast four inches of perlite on the bottom and using the incubator to maintain a constant temperature that isn't too high, keeping fans blowing away from the FC and probably running the air pump once or twice a day for good measures may possibly work. If anyone has any thoughts or ideas on this idea of if they have tried it and it's garbage I'd surely like to hear about it. I've read up on shotgun fruiting chambers and monotubes both and I am leaning more towards the monotube just because of the simplicity of it and less upkeep compared to a SGFC so thoughts ideas opinions. All welcome. This is just an idea for now I am willing to try anything.
Currently the fresh air exchange is horrible. Thankfully I have a few weeks before I will need a fruiting chamber which gives me some obvious time to figure something out

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Re: First time growing. [Re: DiamondMouse]
    #22512131 - 11/11/15 11:57 PM (8 years, 4 months ago)

If you're working with cakes you'll want a sgfc. Mono tubs don't use perlite from what I've seen.
Also if you're using a sgfc you won't want it inside a second tub like that, as no fresh air exchange will be able to make it through the bottom holes.

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