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Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub?
    #22330110 - 10/03/15 08:22 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have 70 qt Sterilite Ultra Latch tubs and a 1 ¼ inch hole saw for my drill. I will be placing my tubs outside (High of 85) in the shade. Should I stick with the standard 6 holes, increase the number of holes, or scrap the drill entirely and use my dremel, and increase my hole size to 2 inches?

I kinda liked the idea of the 1 ¼ inch holes for the purpose of keeping small animals out of the tubs, but I could get creative and add wire over the holes to achieve the same thing. What do you guys think?

Thanks in advance for the advice.


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: Kalistis]
    #22330147 - 10/03/15 08:29 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I use 1 inch holes in my tubs. 8 on top and 6 on bottom for 66qt monos. 6 on top and 4 on bottom for 27qt monos. Hole size isn't that important. Just adjust them a cording to your conditions to get it properly dialed in.


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #22330785 - 10/03/15 11:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Here's something I do know. No matter what size holes you decide to go with, use the correct tools. Hahahaha. I just blew apart the plastic on one of my containers with one of these bad boys:



Even with the pilot hole and anchor, the plastic essentially shattered into pieces. Maybe my girly upper body strength wasn't enough?

Anyway, I popped some holes (not all that pretty) with my Dremel instead. Much easier! You live and learn, I guess.



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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: Kalistis]
    #22330828 - 10/03/15 11:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I use a 1" wood drill bit.


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: MudaFuka]
    #22330879 - 10/03/15 11:40 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I use a ordinary hole saw, but crank the power drill up as fast as it will go and take it real light on the pressure.


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: Northerner]
    #22330929 - 10/03/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Here's where I am. Holes drilled and covered with tape.

My first 12 jars are ready to go and my Damion Coir tek with added gypsum is about to be added. I was planning on lining the tubs with thin trash bags.



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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: Kalistis]
    #22330954 - 10/04/15 12:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

:vibin: fuck yeah


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: LocN9ne]
    #22331116 - 10/04/15 01:24 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I use a 1" paddle bit with a 66qt sterlite:shrug: 2 on top 4 down low? On a side note holy shit my latest mono took forever to pin like a month after sitting fully colonized for about 2 weeks before putting into fruiting.
No side pins no top bins bottom nothing. Now it took off out of nowhere. Must have bacteria...


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: gizmo1]
    #22331131 - 10/04/15 01:37 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I just tried using a 1.5 inch paddle bit to drill the holes in my first mono the other day, and my tub wasn't having it. Don't know if the plastic on this particular tub was just really thick or what, but it didn't want to drill through and then just put a bunch of cracks & breaks all around the drill point. Ending up getting the job done but its not so pretty looking

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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: pixelpopper]
    #22331166 - 10/04/15 01:53 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Just came across this post while browsing related threads. Think I may give it a shot on the next tub

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if you get a tomato paste can, usually 2 inches in diameter, I've seen people heat up the end of the can (once it's empty :facepalm:) and use that to just push through the plastic on the side of the tubs, make sure your measurements are correct :smile:

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/18196939




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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: pixelpopper]
    #22331183 - 10/04/15 02:03 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I have been busy! I decided to make my holes larger than most since my tubs are going to be outdoors and I want as much flexibility to fine tune if necessary.

I went ahead and spawned my first 11 jars of WBS in Damion5050's coir tek with the addition of 1 cup of gypsum. One of the 12 jars looked suspicious so I decided not to use it entirely.

I was half expecting the jars to smell terrible as I cracked them open, but was pleasantly surprised to discover that they had a nice earthy smell. Honestly, the smell made me hungry...

The proceeding pics show the spawn mixed with the substrate and then with a top layer of just the substrate. I took the suspect jar and mixed it in with the left over coir mix and threw a lid on it. I am curious what will grow.

I don't need to keep these tubs in a dark area, correct? Can they sit out in my living room with a natural cycle until I decide to fruit them outside or should I tuck them away?



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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: Kalistis]
    #22331479 - 10/04/15 06:35 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Looks good, even out that surface, promotes a better pinset.


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: Kalistis]
    #22331773 - 10/04/15 08:50 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

to answer your original question ....  I have used hole sizes ranging from 1" to 2".

my favorites are the 1" and 1 1/4" tubs because I like the way the polyfil 'holds' in the smaller diameter holes.  my friend prefers 2" tubs.  You can adjust and fine-tune FAE with the amount of polyfil used.

we learn by doing.  looks like you are learning a lot.  good luck to you.


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: Kalistis]
    #22331781 - 10/04/15 08:51 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Anyway, I popped some holes (not all that pretty) with my Dremel instead. Much easier! You live and learn, I guess.






I have the same dremel. Don't you just love it?

I find using a 1 1/2'' paddle bit with high RPM's works best, just make sure to use as little pressure as possible.


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: taGyo]
    #22331796 - 10/04/15 08:54 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Correct, they don't need to be in the dark. Also, since you are putting them outside another option would be after 100% colonization you could remove the sub from the tub, put them in an outdoor bed in the shade and case them. You could grow some monsters, just make sure they don't dry out.
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:thumbup: we must remember we use fruiting chambers for our benefit not the mushrooms:)



Looking great BTW!


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: NDStepp84]
    #22332172 - 10/04/15 10:57 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Good Morning!

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Looks good, even out that surface, promotes a better pinset.




Should I open the tubs and even things out now that it has been about 8 hours in the tub with the top layer on? I am concerned I will introduce contaminants if I fuck with it too much. I must have been really tired because looking at it now I'm asking myself why I didn't even it out better.  :shrug2:

I think I didn't want to pack it in there too much. Am I right for thinking it isn't wise to pack the spawned substrate too much in the tub?


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I have the same dremel. Don't you just love it?

I find using a 1 1/2'' paddle bit with high RPM's works best, just make sure to use as little pressure as possible.




Are you kidding me! I love Dremels. I have been using them for as long as a can remember and usually end up falling back on it because my skills with other tools are limited. This Dremel in particular is awesome. It gives me more power than my wireless Dremel that I use to do my dog's nails.

Forgive my ignorance, could you post a picture or link to the bit you prefer?

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to answer your original question ....  I have used hole sizes ranging from 1" to 2".

my favorites are the 1" and 1 1/4" tubs because I like the way the polyfil 'holds' in the smaller diameter holes.  my friend prefers 2" tubs.  You can adjust and fine-tune FAE with the amount of polyfil used.

we learn by doing.  looks like you are learning a lot.  good luck to you.




Thanks for the advice on the holes. I have 4 more containers in the house to play with. I was considering messing with different combinations of holes and numbers of holes to see how it affected fruiting outside. The next couple months are going to be perfect and I just can't wait. Honestly, I can keep them indoors now that I see how they aren't all that much of an eyesore nor do they smell, but I love the idea of giving the tubs a go outside!



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Correct, they don't need to be in the dark. Also, since you are putting them outside another option would be after 100% colonization you could remove the sub from the tub, put them in an outdoor bed in the shade and case them. You could grow some monsters, just make sure they don't dry out.

Looking great BTW!




I have considered an outdoor bed, but I think the tubs will protect the shroomies better. I also worry about my idiot dogs breaking out of their fenced area in backyard while I'm at work, poising themselves. They really aren't smart and if it can happen, it will.

Thanks for all of the advice guys! I'm off to check on my plates!


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: Kalistis]
    #22332191 - 10/04/15 11:01 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

You don't want to pack it down just level it out. You spawned it in open air. There are already a ton of contam spores on that thing. Opening it up again won hurt anything. I open my tubs all the time after spawning.


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: Kalistis]
    #22332192 - 10/04/15 11:02 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Don't worry, you won't introduce contams. From a shake even quick myc needs at least 12-24 hours to recover. Even out and pat it down gently, not so hard you push out the air pockets but enough that you have a nice even surface. As Muda said it's crucial you don't PACK it, just give it a gentle PAT.

It'll turn into this:



The height of your sub is perfect, you just don't want it too tight but not too lose either.

Dogs will trip balls and be fine on magic mushrooms. Some actually return to fields where they found them, looking to partake.

The box is fine, just make sure you check it 2-3 times a day depending on how hot it is out there, if the wind is blowing strong, if they've been sitting in the sun for a few hours. All of these can lead to the sub drying out and dry myc will not fruit once it hits a certain point, or it'll push out something as a last ditch effort to extend it's life cycle.

Put it somewhere in the shade, no direct sunlight. Mushrooms like the shade. Keep it misted. Put a casing on it after full colonization.


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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: Kalistis]
    #22332207 - 10/04/15 11:06 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Forgive my ignorance, could you post a picture or link to the bit you prefer?




No ignorance here. This is a paddle bit. :cheers:



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Re: Are 1 ¼ inch holes too small for monotub? [Re: iSmkGrnBud]
    #22332224 - 10/04/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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Forgive my ignorance, could you post a picture or link to the bit you prefer?




No ignorance here. This is a paddle bit. :cheers:






That looks glorious. I will buy one at Home Depot TODAY! Thank you!


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