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    #22035550 - 08/02/15 10:01 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hello new here look forward to learning from you guys. Today was my first ever pc sterlization is it normal to have a small amount of condensation inside the jars?

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22035579 - 08/02/15 10:09 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

hi, yes, normal.  it'll be absorbed into the grain in a few days.  then in a few more days when you see mycelium growth, you may see more condensation from the heat it generates.

just out of curiosity, what kind of lids/filters are you using?


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: FriedEgg]
    #22035640 - 08/02/15 10:25 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes, it's normal.  Give it a few shakes and it'll be re-absorbed into the grains.

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: ShroominMe]
    #22035659 - 08/02/15 10:31 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22035664 - 08/02/15 10:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Not using grain using brf

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22035670 - 08/02/15 10:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

ah ok.  you have a dry verm layer on top, right?


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: FriedEgg]
    #22035783 - 08/02/15 10:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Yes I do. Also I have whole grain, I have let it soak now for two days can it be used as casing

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22035801 - 08/02/15 11:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

A casing needs to be a non nutritious substance. Grains are good for use as a spawn, but having a 2 day soak is a pretty long time, but it'd probably still be fine.


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Achillita]
    #22035816 - 08/02/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

After 2 days that shit is going to be germinating and the starches converting. Not to mention the bacillus count will be through the roof. Grains should only be soaked for 18 hours max but up to 24 can work. I usually only soak for 12 hours, if I bother to soak them at all.

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22035833 - 08/02/15 11:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Can you not soak grains, and just simmer them? I thought it was necessary, or at least optimal... :confused:


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Achillita]
    #22035837 - 08/02/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sure you can.  I never soak grains. I just simmer them.  Soaking is such a pain in the ass.


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Achillita]
    #22035850 - 08/02/15 11:15 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Can you not soak grains, and just simmer them? I thought it was necessary, or at least optimal... :confused:




Sure you can but not for too long. But I usually do no soak prep unless I am doing rye or wheat. WBS and millet prep better for me with Foomans method which only takes an hour of soaking. Oats I usually just light boil until hydrated.

Soak preps are pretty easy to follow but not the only way to do things. But you never want to soak too long. Doing so starts the germination process for both the grains and the bacterial endospores in them. Soak for too long and you have massive amounts of bacteria reproducing and starches being converted into sugar. Plus it will stink like hell.

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22039397 - 08/03/15 07:59 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Is moisture control potting mix the same as vermiculite

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22039403 - 08/03/15 08:00 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: cronicr]
    #22039421 - 08/03/15 08:03 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Could  it be used

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22039454 - 08/03/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Also could whole grain mix good be used in substrate

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22039874 - 08/03/15 09:16 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Looks like you have a lot of reading to do.  :legoman:

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    #22039919 - 08/03/15 09:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Lol yes I do from the reading I have completed lots of people have good things to say about using grains in substrates just wanted confirmation, very typical for a noobie

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: cronicr]
    #22039984 - 08/03/15 09:53 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Could  it be used



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    #22040008 - 08/03/15 10:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: paperbackwriter]
    #22040398 - 08/04/15 01:00 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Soaking is such a pain in the ass.




Agreed! Aint nobody got time for that! :lol: fuck soaking:drysmash:

OP, follow the PF-TEK exactly before you experiment if you want to experience more success than failure.

OR learn about agar, grains, bulk substrates, casings, and monotubs.

You basically can not fail, IF and only if, you follow directions until you understand the biology of whatever species you are working with.


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Toadstool5]
    #22089248 - 08/13/15 09:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1.When spawning bfr cakes do I need to sterilize the bag I break down the cakes into. Also do I need to sterilize the container that I place broken bfr cakes into.

2. Substrate, it functions as food mycelium? and what are the functions of water  in the equation of the mixture. I am familiar with the pH level of water. I'm asking this to inquire information about using a more acidic solvent and was wondering what results might I gain from attempting such an endeavor

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22089497 - 08/13/15 10:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

1.no you don't need to sterilize the bag before hand ziplocks are very clean right outta the box. you sanitize the container in which you put it into just wash it out with dish soap and water then if you want SANITIZE by spraying iso on a paper towel and wiping it out. Why are you putting the cakes in a bag to begin with? if you plan on using them as spawn you'd be better off using a cheese grater to finely grind them down.
2.yes food for the mycelium and more importantly water since mushrooms are 90+% water you'll be needing lots of that which is why you wouldn't want to substitute a "more acidic solvent"   
are you using a TEK? or are you combining more than one? just as stated above follow a tek to the T there is no room for error in this hobby especially on your first grow. the methods are there, the research has been done all you have to do is read and follow instructions at least until you get a few grows under your belt good luck:thumbup: edit: check these out lots of great info. franks http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897163#17897163
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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: tetherface]
    #22089547 - 08/13/15 11:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for the info, I was only brainstorming and I was thinking that the pH level of the solvent would have an effect of the colonization process as well as the fruiting stage, again thanks

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: tetherface]
    #22090010 - 08/14/15 04:59 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

no, no one does anything special to their tubs before spawning,
you can use a cheese grate to break the cakes up and not a bag.

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: spacechildo] * 1
    #22090314 - 08/14/15 08:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Watch the RR video clips in my signature.

Purchasing the complete video set would be even better yet.

The complete set has pretty much everything you will need to know.

Most of the different procedures and different substrates, methods and materials are outlined. It is the best investment I have made in this hobby ($10), (along with a pressure cooker).... :thumbup:


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
    #22091481 - 08/14/15 02:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I just clean my trays with soap and water but i spawn to pasteurized CVG not sterilized. CVG is very beginner friendly too, it doesnt contam easily in my experience.

Dont worry about pH, here's some info if you do choose to worry about it :lol:

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Based on a comprehensive review of the literature, the panel concluded that a pH of 4.6 is appropriate to control spore-forming pathogens.




http://www.fda.gov/Food/FoodScienceResearch/SafePracticesforFoodProcesses/ucm094145.htm

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Here is part of my additives thread.
#4 Lime and Calcium Carbonate(Cali sand, chalk, c. lime).  Adds Ca(not much) and raises PH levels,  it is a long term PH buffer.  H Lime is preferred for immediate results but is short acting PH buffer.  I recommend using Ca carb and H. lime with gypsum,  this way you get an immediate PH raise and a long term buffer that doesn't get major PH swings that can be harmful to fungus.  I won't recommend a amount to use because all subs and casing are different,  just be sure to start with small amount(1/4tsp or less).  Be sure when buying any type of lime it doesn't contain Dolomite or Dolomitic lime it contains Magnesium witch will harm mycelium.  Ca carb can be used alone as a substrate additive 1/4 cup per gal of substrate is a good start,  less is fine when using gypsum.  Ca carb is faster acting then gypsum so I recommend using both together for best results.




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Oyster shell is calcium carbonate, hydrated lime is calcium hydroxide.  We use hydrated lime or oyster shell flour to raise the pH.  Gypsum helps hold the pH steady, but this is NOT what a pH buffer is.  I know people constantly refer to gypsum as a "buffer", but that's not what that word denotes in chemistry.  Crushed oyster shell is only used for texture, it is oyster shell flour that raises the pH.

You are supposed to wait at least an hour after making up your casing layer mix before testing the pH.  Also, if you follow RR's tek for prepping the 50/50+ you add the vermiculite after testing/adjusting the pH. Hope this helps. ~Pixie~




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Correct.  Gypsum is not a pH buffer.  Gypsum is used to supply calcium and sulfur. 

Oyster shells, egg shells, calcium carbonate, etc., are all piss-poor buffers for casings because they take a month or more to become effective, even when powdered.  That's why you want to use hydrated lime.  It's water soluble and raises pH immediately.

NEVER USE BAKING SODA IN YOUR CASING LAYERS!  It's not an appropriate way to raise pH, and is highly toxic to mycelium.

Substrates don't need a pH correction.  Mushroom mycelium actually prefers an acidic pH and grows fastest when the pH is between 5 and 6.  However, since casing layers usually don't fully colonize, we buffer them to a pH of about 8 to help prevent mold spores from germinating.  The live mushroom mycelium can tolerate a high pH, but it's hard for spores to germinate.
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You can make it acidic to control mold and encourage growth but its better to start slightly basic at 8 to control mold than at 4.6. If you start at 8 by the time the mycelium is fully colonized and cosolidated the organic acids will build up and lower the pH to about 4 to 6.5 which is the ideal range for mycelium. If you start at 4.6 by the time it is ready to fruit the poor thing will probably stall some with a pH of 2 to 4 even though they can handle extremes :shrug:

Some species do require a lower pH and citric acid is used but cubes is not one of those species.


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Toadstool5]
    #22105860 - 08/18/15 09:12 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

does this look contaminated

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22105926 - 08/18/15 09:34 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

very blurry, but if there's slimey wet stuff on the right of that front cake its not good.

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: spacechildo]
    #22106120 - 08/18/15 10:33 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)


does this look contaminated

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22106142 - 08/18/15 10:39 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)


Contamination?

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22106230 - 08/18/15 11:09 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I cant really tell but I think its ok. your dry verm layer looks super thin next time use at least 1/2" of dry verm on top because on pf-tek that is your filter or do you have a filter on top? I use grain jar lids on my pf stuff and have good results. and why didn't you fill your jars up to the lip at the bottom of the ring?


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: tetherface]
    #22108321 - 08/18/15 07:56 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Sorry about the late response didnt fill these jars to  the top, because I noticed that for some reason jars with less substrate colonize more gracefully also in my possession I have a jar that substrate that has become dark gray in color and this discolorization does not look good at all. From a logical view point I'm thinking that this jars should be discarded before health degenerative spores are released into my living area. Last bUT least, mycelium growth looks as if it has formed a thick cloud.

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22108348 - 08/18/15 08:02 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Those jars are fucked and its because you didn't make em right. The dry verm layer needs to come up to the top and hit the lids. All that space is allowing the verm to shift and nasty to get in. You need to re read.

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #22108364 - 08/18/15 08:07 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

This is one of those hobbies where it's arguably better to know nothing at all going into it, and just follow the instructions, otherwise you'll end up overanalyzing everything and asking questions like "What is the function of water?" :lol:  Just in case nobody answered that though, it's because living things get thirsty.

edit: ah, I see tether addressed that.  :thumbup:

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    #22108501 - 08/18/15 08:38 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Thanks for being a smart ass, but only experimenting and I question everything within logic... will unveil the aftermath when she is ready to show herself... thanks for the explanation your advice has resolved the matter at hand.

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    #22108523 - 08/18/15 08:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well when someone who jokes a lot gives advice it sounds smart ass but it's still genuine advice and I doubt anyone disagrees. :shrug:

Still, take it or leave it.  I just recommend taking it easy and confirming everything rather than spending too much time speculating.


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    #22108542 - 08/18/15 08:46 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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    #22108584 - 08/18/15 08:54 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

the best advice you can get is follow a tek to the T don't change anything until you get a few grows under your belt and a general understanding of the life cycle of the shroom and a feel for what they really need to flourish....you can defiantly do you a micro biology student...lolz:evil:


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    #22108600 - 08/18/15 08:57 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

The main reason I said that is because oddly, out of everybody who comes through here, the people I see struggling the most are engineers and microbiology students.  They both usually want to find ways to apply the skills they've invested in to this as well, and that leads to, for lack of better term, a lot of not listening.  I am generalizing a bit but my main intention was to give you applicable advice, even if you didn't want to hear it.  No real reason to be offended that I can see, though.  I think you'll do fine if you keep at it.


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    #22108778 - 08/18/15 09:34 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Problem with microbiology folks is they are typically coming with experience in dealing with and culturing bacteria not fungi. Those with fungal backgrounds are used to yeast and have a hard time changing their mindset over to how precise we have to be when dealing with higher fungi.

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    #22108868 - 08/18/15 09:52 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Inocuole]
    #22111779 - 08/19/15 01:05 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well excuse me for trying to integrate knowledge and for being one of those microbiology folks, smh, I don't know shit, I am a man with limited everything. How do you learn to succeed if you never fail? How do you find if you don't seek? The inferiority complex people have never ceases to amaze me. It seems we know so much just because we have succeeded in our endeavors. We are above fallacy and have no need to communicate in a language to the people that deal with fallacy instead we throw what we know around as if we have some degree of godship above mere mortal men...

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22112300 - 08/19/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

You need to calm down before you strain something. Do some reading and follow a tek pretending you know nothing.  We will get you some fruits :thumbup:

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    #22112755 - 08/19/15 04:08 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Before I strain it you will drain it

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    #22113084 - 08/19/15 05:12 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

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Well excuse me for trying to integrate knowledge and for being one of those microbiology folks, smh, I don't know shit, I am a man with limited everything. How do you learn to succeed if you never fail? How do you find if you don't seek? The inferiority complex people have never ceases to amaze me. It seems we know so much just because we have succeeded in our endeavors. We are above fallacy and have no need to communicate in a language to the people that deal with fallacy instead we throw what we know around as if we have some degree of godship above mere mortal men...




This defensive attitude is exactly the same attitude that has caused countless shitstorms and bannings here.  If you wanna go down that road, be my guest.  If you wanna take my advice as advice and not go on a fucking ego trip about it, that would be an intelligent and well adjusted thing to do.


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Inocuole]
    #22113226 - 08/19/15 05:41 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Wow, dude so much for freedom of speech, ego lost it still haven't found it, but I apologize if I come off as such not my intention here my last reply was a joke, again sorry we are all brothers here seeking knowledge, again if I came off as a prick I apologize

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22113245 - 08/19/15 05:43 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Well I wasn't being particularly rude to start with and that's what I was met with so... I apologize if my reaction evoked that response.


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Inocuole]
    #22179454 - 09/02/15 06:26 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

First batch of shrooms sucked due to lack of fresh air.  When Harvesting, do you have to wait until shrooms unveil, I have read many different opinions on the matter

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    #22179493 - 09/02/15 06:31 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I'd love to see the person whose opinion it was to harvest far away from when the veil breaks..  I harvest when the veil is starting to tear, but hasn't torn completely.  Sometimes I let some go a little longer if it means that I can harvest the whole tub at once.  The further you are from when the veil tears, the less optimal it is.  No sense in waiting until they're too old or cutting them down while they're too young if you can help it.  I've done both because I was feeling lazy though, so it'll happen and you'll find out for yourself how you like to harvest.  Most people come to the same conclusion that right around the veil tear is best.

Can you link to at least two differing opinions though?  I'm honestly curious to see someone say something other than that.


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22179497 - 09/02/15 06:32 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

My fc was incorrectly prepared and it cost my fruits dearly

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    #22179513 - 09/02/15 06:35 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but one  reason to let your shroom unveil would be if one desired a print?

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    #22179550 - 09/02/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry not to very verse in the area of sending links and things of that nature but I will Learn asap...

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22179554 - 09/02/15 06:41 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Perhaps, but that's also, from another perspective, another reason not to let the veil open.  Suppose you get a fruit without the veil torn, you take it into your SAB, then you tear the veil yourself and place it down for the print.  Now you have clean spores and if your technique is good the whole print will be clean.  To me, the veil opening while growing only means I'm gonna get spores on some of my caps, or on my substrate.

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    #22179613 - 09/02/15 06:52 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Sorry about posting so many threads back to back but more things come to mind as I congregate with my brethen... slow growth of the fruit bodies, does this necessarily ensure aborts and if not how much longer should I allow them the chance to mature? Sorry about bumping, I take that means posting comments back to back, again sorry, but I have the slightest idea on how to operate many of the functions of this system.

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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Nagakush23]
    #22179646 - 09/02/15 07:00 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Eh, well it doesn't come with an instruction manual, at least not that I know of, just gotta look at all the buttons and play with them to see what they do. :shrug:

Anyway slow growing fruits aren't really a problem unless they're changing color or looking weird.  Most fruits go from pin to mature in 3-4 days though, so long as temperatures aren't too cold.


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    #22185800 - 09/03/15 11:01 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Hey guys, I just purchased red bulgur whole grain, will this work

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    #22185832 - 09/03/15 11:11 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Those are wheat berries right? If so, then yes. As far as I know, you could probably make any whole grain work.


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    #22185853 - 09/03/15 11:21 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well I checked, bulgar is wheat that was half boiled and dried or something like that. I'd just do a wheat berry tek, it should work fine as normal.


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    #22185934 - 09/03/15 11:55 PM (8 years, 6 months ago)

So why'd you purchase it and THEN ask if it would work?  What's the backup plan?


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    #22185956 - 09/04/15 12:00 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Eat it I guess :shrug: That grain is for cooking anyhow.


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    #22185969 - 09/04/15 12:05 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I always pass by that stuff in the grocery store and wonder what kind of people use whole grains like that.  I feel slightly more knowledgeable about this subject now.


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Re: Student of microbiology [Re: Inocuole]
    #22186031 - 09/04/15 12:24 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

Well was reading that all grains were suitable as substrates, I was looking for some expert opinion

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    #22186049 - 09/04/15 12:30 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

[url=https://files.shroomery.org/files/15-36/134798399-1441347943673-1036443699.jpg][/ur
polyfill??? I read that all grains were suitable as substrates, I was making sure

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    #22186133 - 09/04/15 01:03 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

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Could  it be used



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Moisture control potting soil has... Dam the chemical name is a blank... Poly something I'm pretty sure... And a bunch of stuff cubes do not need.

Verm is verm. Period.
It's cheap and easily accessible if you have a gardening or hardware store around.

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    #22186244 - 09/04/15 01:48 AM (8 years, 6 months ago)

I don't understand

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    #22308070 - 09/29/15 12:41 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

does this jar look correct, it looks rather moist inside any advice

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    #22308088 - 09/29/15 12:43 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah looks a little wet. You want your BRF to look a bit more uniform then that out of the PC. Those tall jars tend to have a lot of problems as well, that's why we recommend 1/2 pint wide mouth jars.


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    #22308105 - 09/29/15 12:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks so should I dump and redo

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    #22308122 - 09/29/15 12:49 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

IMO yes if you have the spare BRF, can you also get the appropriate jars?


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    #22308150 - 09/29/15 12:54 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)


so,I take it these two jars won't kut it either, yes I'm going to try to get the correct jars low on Kash now

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    #22308176 - 09/29/15 01:00 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

One more questions about pcing brf is it normal for the mix to kinda be lumpy after pcing

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    #22308274 - 09/29/15 01:21 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the link but I'm unable to watch the videos.

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    #22308698 - 09/29/15 02:31 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Thx,I figured out my problem, the vermiculite was the kind that's is fluffy and thick. Tagyo my nig, I got a fork and whipped the vermiculite hard, made it really fine and it looked beautiful when I put it in my jars. Will send a pic after I finish pcing them. Thx tagyo u da man.

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    #22308717 - 09/29/15 02:34 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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    #22309002 - 09/29/15 03:25 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

i swear, ima colonize a half gallon PF jar
with some other jars of various size
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its on my bucket list man

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    #22309140 - 09/29/15 03:47 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Blackdust, I see you turnt up.

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    #22309207 - 09/29/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

They look fine. Shoot em up.


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    #22309208 - 09/29/15 03:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Hahaha blackdust's 5 is a 4. :rofl:  Sorry Naga, that's nothing more than bad luck.  I was like "Who already rated this person badly?" and it was just a 5 from ol' BD.  :rofl2:  I'm sorry, I shouldn't laugh, it's just funny how the rating system does that.


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    #22309485 - 09/29/15 04:33 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I want to laugh but understand where you ate coming from inocule. By the way whats up dude

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    #22309531 - 09/29/15 04:37 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Nothin much, fixed your rating for you.  Those jars are probably fine, check em again 24 hours after cooling and they should have redistributed moisture a bit better.


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