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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: maddchef]
    #21972435 - 07/20/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Nvm man I actually took the time and read, duh.

Does splitting the grains open not cause bacterial issues though?

And if my only option is to pour grains in that container I'm wondering my water to grain ratio.


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: maddchef]
    #21973026 - 07/20/15 09:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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So here's the situation: I use wide mouth quarts. I only have the freezer ball container thingy for LI now.

Are you saying I can dump some grain in there with water and puree the shit out of it instead of using a plate and it will work just as well if not better?

How much are you blending the grains and would it differ for me using oats? Also for say 8oz of liquid roughly how much grain would be added?

Are you limited to pouring the slurry or is it thin enough to use a syringe?



did you watch the video in the op? i blended for 3-5 seconds on the last one i did. carc, how long did you blend your grain?

madchef, my times with the GLC type slurry are about the same speed as LI. i haven't been able to get the grain slurries to colonize as fast as the pf jar slurries. it is essentially a GLC minus sucking it into a syringe and injecting it. your simply pouring it into quart jars.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Cu3sepCvnsY#t=97

you may have clogging if you suck grains into the syringe. it may be possible if you allow the grain to settle in the jar. then attempt to extract the liquid in an area far away from grain particles.

i think you may be asking for trouble as the grains particles are larger than a plate blend. worth a try? i probably would not try it with a syringe. pouring for me is much easier than using a syringe.


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: eatyualive]
    #21973081 - 07/20/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

I can't be bothered to spend 6 minutes of my time watching some silly video.

Lol no I didn't even see it until now. The slurry looks quite thick almost like a milkshake so I guess syringes are out of the question.

Since my jar is already made maybe I'll hang a magnet from the top of my hood and glue another on the lid as a holder lol. I can just let it hang while I pour.

Maybe I should just stick to LI eh? Haha


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: maddchef]
    #21973134 - 07/20/15 09:43 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

this is from the op link. ive used a 2:1 grain to water ratio in the past. i wanted to try much less grain on this last attempt. i used one spoonful to a pint of water. my usual ratio is like this. and my tribal containers are ready for battle. too bad i don't have any empty jars.

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SLURRY TYPE 2:
GS2G Transfer(Grain Slurry to Grain jar transfer): wbs grain jar blended and poured into other grain jars.

A ratio of 1 pint grain spawn to 1/2 pint of water was used for 50 quarts of colonized grain.

Do all of this as sterile as possible. Research on sterile technique is assumed prior to this.

1. Fill a pint jar half full of distilled water and place the blade assembly on it. Pressure cook for 20 mins at 15psi. Allow jar to cool.
2. Prepare your clean area(Shmuvbox, SAB, Flowhood) and your substrates and tubs. Setup for spawning.
3. Using a phonebook, break up the grain inside the jar.
4. In your SAB, Take the colonized pint of grain loosen the lid. Loosen the lid of the sterile water pint jar.
5. pour water from water pint into grain pint.
6. place blade assembly lid on grain pint and water pint jar.
7. Blend on your oster blender base. Hold the jar in place with your hand while blending. I blend about 30 seconds.
8. In your SAB, Pour the grain slurry into your quarts jars. You pour by eye about 1 tablespoon volume of slurry per Quart Grain Jar.
9. Wait 3-4 days until full colonization. Give it a day or two more and then your ready to spawn your tubs. You can shake your grain a day before spawning to test for any contamination.

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Quarts and Pints(Pints will each be used as masters to slurry 100 more quarts each. In the last picture you can see all the colonized pints and 1 quart that i slurried. all the colonized jars are on the last bottom picture. each one of those pints will be used as a master for more than 30 jars at a time)judging from experience, each pint can do at least 200 quart jars of grain. i easily did 30 tonight and had to throw out 2/3rds of the pint jar of grain leftover.






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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: eatyualive]
    #21977174 - 07/21/15 07:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

day 1 LI and GLC inoculated.


day 2. the LI is slightly ahead. but more inoculant was used per jar with the LI. also only 20 quarts were used with LI. that is expected. the jars on the right are a Syzygy clone. Jars on the left are an amazon clone.



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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: eatyualive]
    #21977457 - 07/21/15 08:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

11 day from inoculation of spawns to fruiting the tub :rockon:


tub 2 had a very thin layer of substrate
fruiting probably tomorrow


i also inoculated some grain with a pe6 gwlc one day before the slurry..  they'll be ready in a day or two

so
slurry 5 days
lc 12-13 days...

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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: cArcace-x]
    #21977477 - 07/21/15 08:37 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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11 day from inoculation of spawns to fruiting the tub :rockon:


tub 2 had a very thin layer of substrate
fruiting probably tomorrow


i also inoculated some grain with a pe6 gwlc one day before the slurry..  they'll be ready in a day or two

so
slurry 5 days
lc 12-13 days...

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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: cArcace-x]
    #21977738 - 07/21/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

:chief:

tearing it up!

fastest i had was 12 from inoculation to harvest with casing. that involved using the substrate as casing method and a thai cubensis that was extremely fast. plus room temps are 76-80 degrees.


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: eatyualive]
    #21978953 - 07/22/15 04:57 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

12 days from inoculation to harvest... :eek:
thats crazy man!!!

thats another objective!! :lol:


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: cArcace-x]
    #21978985 - 07/22/15 05:11 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

Temp range was just right for rapid colonization.  The rest is genetic rigorousness indeed.  Bet the fruits were long, lanky, hollow, and mean too.


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: eatyualive]
    #21981997 - 07/22/15 08:53 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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day 1 LI and GLC inoculated.


day 2-3. the LI is slightly ahead. but more inoculant was used per jar with the LI. also only 20 quarts were used with LI. that is expected. the jars on the right are a Syzygy clone. Jars on the left are an amazon clone.



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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: eatyualive]
    #21986487 - 07/23/15 06:06 PM (8 years, 8 months ago)

so my craftsmanship is horrible but you get the idea. have only seen the wide mouth version of this lid. today they had the regular mouth.

found these regular mouth lids for sip cups. you put the injection port in. wrap it in foil. pressure cook with the regular half pint, pint or quart with blade assembly on them. then after transfer and blend. switch to this lid for pouring. easy and it fits perfectly into the ring. so it was siliconed in.




day 1 LI and GLC inoculated.


day 2-4. the LI is slightly ahead. but more inoculant was used per jar with the LI. also only 20 quarts were used with LI. that is expected. the jars on the right are a Syzygy clone. Jars on the left are an amazon clone.



GLC Amazon


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: eatyualive]
    #21988760 - 07/24/15 07:38 AM (8 years, 8 months ago)

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found these regular mouth lids for sip cups. you put the injection port in. wrap it in foil. pressure cook with the regular half pint, pint or quart with blade assembly on them. then after transfer and blend. switch to this lid for pouring. easy and it fits perfectly into the ring. so it was siliconed in.





thats how i used to do before i made the container

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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: cArcace-x]
    #22006726 - 07/27/15 08:27 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

tub #1 is knotting up
#2 had a thin late casing so i dunno whats happen in there but i'm sure it will follow by 2-3 days behind


also i found the first plug i made to pour LI :lol:
handcrafted with RTV and a bolt :vaped:



i was sterilizing this lid in foil beside the jar with water and the blade on, blend and change for the lid in the sab and then pour....  was a pain in the ass ahaha


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: cArcace-x]
    #22006961 - 07/27/15 09:21 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Hey eat when I made mine with the snap freezer jar it concaved the top when it cooled. What gives?

I used the stock lid and merely made an LI jar and put a ship in the lid. You had issues like that or how can I avoid it?

I'm assuming it's because it makes such a good seal that it acted like a canning jar, does your build not do that?


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: maddchef]
    #22007018 - 07/27/15 09:33 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

did you put a syringe filter or something on it?
it may help to release the pressure while PC and cooling


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: cArcace-x]
    #22007158 - 07/27/15 10:10 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Did not. I didn't figure it made a good enough seal to cause the issue and I didn't see one on yours?


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: maddchef]
    #22007174 - 07/27/15 10:14 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

no but the plug for pouring is slack a bit so it probably release by there... and you have only a tight SHIP
i will specify this in the OP :thumbup:


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: cArcace-x]
    #22007183 - 07/27/15 10:17 PM (8 years, 7 months ago)

I figured your plug was tight.


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Re: Mycelium Water, A Tribal Container [beta version] [Re: maddchef] * 1
    #22007634 - 07/28/15 12:29 AM (8 years, 7 months ago)

Great DIY and how to thread.  Props to all the contributors on this.  :cheers:

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