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 Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards 
#21858896 - 06/26/15 08:25 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awwwww
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The Ecstatic
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: lurkmode] 2
#21859085 - 06/26/15 09:23 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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And a socialist out polling a Bush?
We need to sacrifice some urban youths and resurrect Reagan.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: The Ecstatic] 1
#21859104 - 06/26/15 09:28 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Reagan would never make it past the primaries with today's teabaggers what with his immigration and tax policy views (actions)
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: lurkmode]
#21859237 - 06/26/15 09:56 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awwwww
what a well thought out and articulate point.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: psyconaught] 1
#21859450 - 06/26/15 10:53 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Conservatives are actually very happy with Obamacare, they got rich owning health care related stocks that benefited from the new polices.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: qman] 1
#21859702 - 06/26/15 11:50 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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because everyone knows only conservatives own stock
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: psyconaught]
#21859826 - 06/26/15 12:25 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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because everyone knows only conservatives own stock
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psyconaught said:
what a well thought out and articulate point.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: The Ecstatic]
#21859851 - 06/26/15 12:32 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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My comment had more content and relevancy than a dick sucking gif.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: lurkmode]
#21859940 - 06/26/15 12:53 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Awwwww
I doesn't know why people out there are getting upset over gay's marriages. I finds tattoos are very offensive, but that is what they want to do to their bodies, then so be it; but as long as if it is not my body that is being infected with tattoos, then who cares whom is effecting their. People need to mine their own business and stay out of other people's yards. There is some people that are performing wedding for their pets, but I doesn't see anyone complaining about that; but instead they wanting to attend that wedding and to perform it at its best.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: Douglas Howard]
#21860060 - 06/26/15 01:25 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Douglas Howard said:
People need to mine their own business and stay out of other people's yards.]
That. Marriage is for idiots (I've been married so I include myself) but as long as government is involved, what is permissible for straights must be permissible for gays.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#21860417 - 06/26/15 02:41 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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i thought suck a dick was poignant as it was pretty much my thoughts on the matter.
Reichwingers are having a tough week what with Obamacare and gay marriage rulings, Sarah Palin getting booted from Fixed News and her slut daughter getting knocked up again by some dude that wasn't her ex-fiance.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: lurkmode] 1
#21861090 - 06/26/15 06:01 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Cruz wants the ability to fire justices he doesn't like. 
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: Le_Canard]
#21861654 - 06/26/15 09:10 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Well when things aren't going his way what else can he do? Duh
Trump Cruz for president. You're fired!
Three branches of government my ass
You're fired fired fired fired
It's a sad day in America
Trump Cruz and Teddy Nugent as press secretary
Now that's a fuckin ticket
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: Citizen X]
#21861674 - 06/26/15 09:15 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I hear Ted Cruz might move back to Canada over this? More at 11
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: Citizen X]
#21862496 - 06/27/15 02:24 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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ACTUALLY i think the ruling on Obamacare, while not correct, was good for R'S. 1) THEY don't face consequences of people losing insurance. Even though it wasnt their fault if it happened. 2) It takes away the 'Republican fucked you out of healthcare argment for 2016 3) D's and O definitely own the Obamacare law now, and it is starting to collapse. (Funding, solvency, etc, without a major overhaul.) Already several states have closed exchanges, and the Government is going to have to take up the slack.
And there are a lot of people who are fuming about not being able to go to doctor because of 6000, 7000 dollar co-pays, etc. Oh, and death panels/
Did you know that if you have liver disease like I did, and you are in a MELD stage that would rate you as one year left to live (i WAS at 2 left) or you have cognizant impairment that is bad, the government is not going to allow you to be treated?  Even though with the new drugs, people that are in the final stages, awaiting liver transplant, have been taken off the transplant list.
Oh, but thats not a 'death panel' right? THEY are already setting up criteria that will say--'you don't have value or enough life left--so we will let you die'
So, what am I saying? If Obamacare actually ended up working, then hooray. I'd be glad. but I think it has too many structural problems, a lot of people dont like it, and the most insidious parts of obamacare will roll out after he leaves office. IT'S ALSO going to have massive revenue shortalls.
Something is going to have to give because that fuckin bill is a trainwreck.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: starfire_xes]
#21862938 - 06/27/15 07:34 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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If Obamacare actually ended up working, then hooray. I'd be glad.
It works in pretty much every other Western country.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: starfire_xes]
#21862992 - 06/27/15 07:53 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I see. So you would rather go back to a system where the insurance company would have dropped you if your liver problems got too critical.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: starfire_xes]
#21863129 - 06/27/15 08:35 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Did you know that if you have liver disease like I did, and you are in a MELD stage that would rate you as one year left to live (i WAS at 2 left) or you have cognizant impairment that is bad, the government is not going to allow you to be treated? Even though with the new drugs, people that are in the final stages, awaiting liver transplant, have been taken off the transplant list.
Oh, but thats not a 'death panel' right? THEY are already setting up criteria that will say--'you don't have value or enough life left--so we will let you die'
This death panel thing just won't die. There is nothing, even remotely close to death panels in the law.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: viktor]
#21863283 - 06/27/15 09:11 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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If Obamacare actually ended up working, then hooray. I'd be glad.
It works in pretty much every other Western country.
Other developed countries don't have a healthcare system like Obamacare, they have universal healthcare which is completely different than the ACA.
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Re: Obamacare, gay marriage rulings - sad times for conservatards [Re: BoldAsLove]
#21863831 - 06/27/15 11:12 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Did you know that if you have liver disease like I did, and you are in a MELD stage that would rate you as one year left to live (i WAS at 2 left) or you have cognizant impairment that is bad, the government is not going to allow you to be treated? Even though with the new drugs, people that are in the final stages, awaiting liver transplant, have been taken off the transplant list.
Oh, but thats not a 'death panel' right? THEY are already setting up criteria that will say--'you don't have value or enough life left--so we will let you die'
This death panel thing just won't die. There is nothing, even remotely close to death panels in the law.
they don't need to be implicit. Wide sections are written to allow agencies to be set up that will make decisions, rules, and regulations. And limiting the care given is one of them.
The statement I made above about treatment for liver disease is already implemented. My doctor took 2 patients already off the transplant list that would be in that category. And I was close to it. Go read the VA treatment policy--same criteria.
And I had severe liver disease, and laws were already in place that prevented me from losing coverage--but I worked for companies that had to provide me with coverage if they provided it for anyone, and you could NOT be screened out by a physical for a job UNLESS YOU COULDNT DO THE JOB. I think this law implemented under clinton's term.
So, with a policy in place for government care that says: if x exists we won't treat you--that is a de facto death panel. It's like the old saying--if you suck one cock you are a cock-sucker.
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