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djskipmode
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hello got a question and need sum help
#21556459 - 04/16/15 05:54 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Hey I bought sum jars from mid west I know. But I was feeling lazy and didn't want to.mix the stuff up and do all that. Well any ways. Sum of th jars were dryer out and I knocked them up.anyways . Well nothing grow in them. So my question is what should I do with the jars Should I shoot sum clean water in them . Or should I pressure cooker them again. But if I.just pressure cook them will that put water in the jars from being re pressure cooked
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: djskipmode]
#21556552 - 04/16/15 06:15 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Wash them with soap and save them for when you really want to grow.
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...the teks have been written to be as easy as possible. Cutting corners is for veteran cultivators. As a fellow novice I can advise you that trying to get around steps or having these veterans do the learning for you wont fly. As stated above ditch the jars and start over when you're ready to take it seriously
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: Mycologist217]
#21556783 - 04/16/15 07:23 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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pc'ing should never alter your moisture content....
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djskipmode
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: Mycologist217]
#21556792 - 04/16/15 07:25 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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No I got a bunch of jars going in the fc right now fruiting and been .and I got a few grows under my belt too. My glove box I made the glass for the top I missed placed so I got to get a new one. But I would me just pressure cooking them would that put water into the jars or would I have to put water into the jars ?? I thought it be worth trying. Unless a lot of you guys think it's a stupid ideal.
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: jbaby007]
#21556851 - 04/16/15 07:39 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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If you call and tell them that they were dry they will send you new ones. But making your own is so easy and cheap!
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: boodog420]
#21556869 - 04/16/15 07:42 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Check out the Sig..
So my thoughts on were to go from here...
Mycelium will colonize visually dry substrates, but it might take longer to see germination. I would imagine that if the look visually dry you can probably inject 1cc per hole instead of 1/4 cc, but in the end I would consider reading my salvage your grow kits link. It will help you get back on track.
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: jbaby007]
#21556881 - 04/16/15 07:46 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Cakes are made on a particular ratio of water:verm:BRF. it would be hard to know how much water you need to add to get the moisture right. You could just end up wasting more spores by getting the cakes too wet or leaving them still too dry.
I've never re-PC'd cakes before, but I have re-PC'd grains a few times and they were dried out afterwards. I tried to compensate a couple of times by adding just a little water and they got real sticky and clumpy. The point is, re=PCing can mess with the moisture content of stuff; it's a fact based on personal experience.
This is why premade stuff often sucks. If you want it right, do it yourself. If you mess up, it's cheaper to do it agin because you already probably have all the stuff. it can be hard to fix stuff sometimes and it's best to just start over.
Now that you have the jars, you just need vermiculite ($5-$6), BRF (1$-$5) depending on amount you buy) a pot to steam sterilize them (you might already have or dirt cheap at the thrift store). Aluminum foil ($1-$3 depending where you go)
It's easier than baking a cake.
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Darkside88
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: SpitballJedi]
#21556960 - 04/16/15 08:11 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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your jars might get dry yeah ,but it shouldn't add moisture , not a noticeable amount anyway that's half the reason for putting tinfoil over the top the jar, besides keeping any filter dry it should keep additional moisture from entering.
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: Darkside88]
#21556987 - 04/16/15 08:17 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I agree, the foil should keep any additional moisture from getting in.
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djskipmode
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: SpitballJedi]
#21557170 - 04/16/15 08:52 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yeah I got a 5 foot tall bag of veg and perlitee . So I'm good on both ends of that. I got a coffee grander I just use for branding my substrate up .. and I got a pretty advice fc. Like better then 95 percent of the ones I see on here and other places. Like I got all I need. And got replacement jars for the dry one . But I got like 10 or so spore syringes with 1 to 6 cc in them. All mix kinds. I was saving them so I could make more spore syringes and so I could use those to learn with N to play with. I was saving a few of them cause they were really good and I wanted to try and clone them after I grow them. But byways. I wAs thinking about just using them to try n re knock up sum of the jars and see if they grow. What do you guys think. ???? Also I'm trying to get on the marketplace So I can meet people to learn more . Cause all the people I've been talking to are newbies and don't know much or more then me. I wan to meet people who grown bulk and grow all type of mushroom. I'm growing osyster pearl right now too.
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: djskipmode]
#21557369 - 04/16/15 09:31 PM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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The market place is for buying, selling, and trading stuff. You won't learn much about growing.
You are in the right forum to learn to grow.
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djskipmode
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: SpitballJedi]
#21562099 - 04/18/15 01:54 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Lol I know what the marketplace. Is a lol about I just didn't an to say why u did. Trying to play dumb u know lol
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: djskipmode]
#21562378 - 04/18/15 06:25 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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The people who you are currently talking to are about as experienced with growing all types of mushrooms in all environments. If you keep this thread going you will learn everything you will ever need. Between myself and spitball and the lot of other KB's that will eventually jump on this thread, you have almost 10-15 years of experience.
If you already have the jars that are dried out, and you have the vermiculite you will just need some brown rice and grind it into flower with your coffee grinder.
Dump the contents of the premade jars out and wash them, and then use the jars to make new cakes. I wouldn't waste the spores in your syringes on old dry jars.
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Dina
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: Sockadin]
#21562386 - 04/18/15 06:28 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: Dina]
#21562477 - 04/18/15 07:21 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Yea, I would just make them the tried and true way. Also, when mixing the verm and BRF there is a reason you add the water to the verm then add the BRF. It is so the BRF sticks to the verm and mixes up evenly. Also you if doing the PF-Tek you don't want to screw up your dry verm layer.
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
#21562506 - 04/18/15 07:42 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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I made the straw,. vermiculite no
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: Dina]
#21562514 - 04/18/15 07:50 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
Dina said: I made the straw,. vermiculite no
I was answering the OP's question.
Not sure what you are talking about "sausages & straw"...lol.
Can't get your pictures to load and some people don't like clicking on strange links.
To save confusion you may try using the picture upload function for the site and start your own thread...
I would be more than willing to help you out...
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Dina
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Re: hello got a question and need sum help [Re: FreeWorldOrder]
#21562528 - 04/18/15 07:58 AM (8 years, 11 months ago) |
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-------------------- [gradient:#E8469C,#]I am glad that I found for myself that, so far only gain experience but really want to try to grow their own, thank you all that you are! kiss you[/gradient]
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