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pan cinct?
    #21471589 - 03/28/15 07:56 PM (9 years, 3 days ago)

Habitat: cow dung that was cover by straw.

Gills: brown attached and where it attaches to the stem look like veins are running down the stem

Stem: brown or red ish with white at base
fibrils

Cap: move about the size of a quarter. A couple shades of brown in rings.

Diameter, color, texture, conical/spherical, convex/concave, etc.

Spore print color: In the works there are a few smeller caps that are BLACK from what looks to be spores. Hope in for jet black prints

Bruising: didn't see to much other then stem getting darker when I pinched it

Other information: most have been in the sun an it's been dry for a while now. The darker brown ones were just under a layer of straw.




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Re: pan cinct? [Re: LordCyris]
    #21471660 - 03/28/15 08:15 PM (9 years, 3 days ago)

Not a Panaeolus...


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Re: pan cinct? [Re: art2312]
    #21471713 - 03/28/15 08:31 PM (9 years, 3 days ago)

Oh yeah? Why do you say that what? What is the give away for you? Mine you these have been in the dry sun with no rain or water for a whole now.


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Re: pan cinct? [Re: LordCyris]
    #21471782 - 03/28/15 08:44 PM (9 years, 3 days ago)

Art is right on, as per usual. Hypholoma or Agrocybe I think.

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Re: pan cinct? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #21471849 - 03/28/15 09:00 PM (9 years, 3 days ago)

My first thought was Agrocybe but I wasn't sure if that genus had the crazy basal mycelium or not!


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Re: pan cinct? [Re: art2312]
    #21471900 - 03/28/15 09:11 PM (9 years, 3 days ago)

OK cool but I was just wondering what is the give away that leads you to believe that. Also if the print is brown then it definitely isn't pan cinct right? I thought that the gills that are attached to the stem an has a vain that fellow it down an black prints are a tell sign of pan cint. Also I an still a noon big time an not trying to disagree just want to know what you experts are seeing that I am missing so I can better my identification skills


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Re: pan cinct? [Re: LordCyris]
    #21471942 - 03/28/15 09:19 PM (9 years, 3 days ago)

Cap color is wrong and the gills are wrong, is what jumped out at me...


The gills of these mushrooms are black or grey and have a spotty, speckled or cloudy appearance, caused by the way that the dark spores ripen together in tiny patches on the gill surface; different patches darken at different times. The spores are smooth. ~ http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panaeolus


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Re: pan cinct? [Re: LordCyris]
    #21471953 - 03/28/15 09:21 PM (9 years, 3 days ago)

Mottled gills is the easiest indicator to remember, all pans have them

Edited by doctorghosty (03/28/15 09:27 PM)

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Re: pan cinct? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #21471997 - 03/28/15 09:34 PM (9 years, 3 days ago)

Quote:

doctorghosty said:
Mottled gills is the easiest indicator to remember, all pans have them



If its not mottled its not to be swallowed :p

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Re: pan cinct? [Re: LordCyris]
    #21474740 - 03/29/15 02:06 PM (9 years, 2 days ago)

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LordCyris said:
OK cool but I was just wondering what is the give away that leads you to believe that. Also if the print is brown then it definitely isn't pan cinct right? I thought that the gills that are attached to the stem an has a vain that fellow it down an black prints are a tell sign of pan cint. Also I an still a noon big time an not trying to disagree just want to know what you experts are seeing that I am missing so I can better my identification skills



Maybe you're focusing too much on small details not looking at the mushroom as a whole. If you look at a picture of P. cinct you should be able to distinguish the two right off the bat, no special skills required.

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Re: pan cinct? [Re: Walts]
    #21475519 - 03/29/15 05:27 PM (9 years, 2 days ago)

Yeah I see the difference now after looking back an forth. Also went out to the farm today an did a walk and found some Panaeolus papilionaceus I think..





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Re: pan cinct? [Re: LordCyris]
    #21476369 - 03/29/15 08:53 PM (9 years, 2 days ago)

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LordCyris said:
Yeah I see the difference now after looking back an forth. Also went out to the farm today an did a walk and found some Panaeolus papilionaceus I think..









Here is the ID request and lots more pics! Thanks guys i look at many pictures of panaeolus and tried to find some.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21476436/vc/1#21476436


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Re: pan cinct? [Re: LordCyris]
    #21476592 - 03/29/15 09:39 PM (9 years, 2 days ago)

Google Veil remnants panaleous.

Your cincts/subs wont tyoically be that color and will not have veil fragments.

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