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#21126856 - 01/15/15 08:48 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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I didn't go all the way . I just hiked until I met people who said don't go any farther gringo . I just took a peek . Some people live in relative peace some get massacred but no one pays taxes , well some pay bribes to cartels , but they don't do anything except agree not to kill you because machine guns are fun . Their just assholes .
Its In Colombia . It's itechnically in their border but how do you claim it if you have no control and don't offer any services ?
I know you can still be taxed if you move but not if you move there . It's one of the only places I can think of you can truly get away from govt influence that isn't a complete and total shithole . It's stunning really . It's literally a modern Wild West in the jungle with piles of gold and cocaine , what could be more fun?
Lots of money to be made , not just drugs but gold mining too . I love prospecting , I would love to go there and test unexplored places . But I am afraid . It's not really the cartels , its the unpredictability . I just really like my govt . You can't buy shit online ,there's no ups .
A person could always go live with Mick Dodge from the discovery channel up in Washington , he doesn't seem to pay taxes or give a fuck about the govt.
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21127464 - 01/15/15 11:55 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where did you go that the government doesn't spank if you don't pay taxes?
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Where did you go that the government doesn't spank if you don't pay taxes?
If one wants to pay minimal taxes, he'd just use a payment service that provided complete anonymity and authenticity.
If one purchases something off SR or another DW market, he does so in BitCoin, for example. This attracts legal attention only because of the nature of the items bought and sold. (Contraband.)
But I have seen BitCoin demanded as payment for a hotdog salesman.
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: Jkinder313]
#21127476 - 01/16/15 12:00 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anarchists are everywhere. Ever analyze the Anarchy A? The O is for Order.
We all get the Law. But Governments are an attempt at Ordering the Law.
The Order comes natural though. It cannot be designed by People, if People are flawed. And aren't flawed People the makeup of Government, as is any 'group' of People? (This is why I don't choose to look at groups. It's collectivism, really.)
Everyone who has ever fled from a violent regime; got away from the cops; made a living under LE's nose, etc. All of these people are de facto Anarchists. They all act in opposition to government.
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: Jkinder313]
#21128425 - 01/16/15 09:30 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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But I have seen BitCoin demanded as payment for a hotdog salesman.
Bullshit.
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21128602 - 01/16/15 10:35 AM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lets see, a few of the places that take bitcoin are:
Expedia
NewEgg.com
Overstock.com
Shopify
Aliexpress.com
HostMonster
WordPress.com – An online company that allows user to create free blogs
Target – An American retailing company
CVS – A pharmacy shop
Subway – Eat fresh
Victoria’s Secret – A lingerie outlet
Namecheap - Domain name registrar
Bitcoin.Travel – a travel site that provides accommodation, apartments, attractions, bars, and beauty salons around the world
Pembury Tavern – A pub in London, England
Old Fitzroy – A pub in Sydney, Australia
The Pink Cow – A diner in Tokyo, Japan
Virgin Galactic - Richard Branson company that includes Virgin Mobile and Virgin Airline
The Pirate Bay - BitTorrent directories
Reddit – You can buy premium features there with bitcoins
Zynga – Mobile gaming
PayPal / Ebay - Credit card / payment processor / Auction
Tesla – The car company
OkCupid – Online dating site
4Chan.org – For premium services
EZTV – Torrents
Etsy Vendors – 93 of them
PizzaForCoins.com - Domino’s Pizza signed up – pay for their pizza with bitcons
Tigerdirect – Major electronic online retailer
CheapAir.com – Travel booking site for airline tickets, car rentals, hotels
Expedia.com – Online travel booking agency
Zappos – Online retailer
Whole Foods
Bitcoincoffee.com – Buy your favorite coffee online
Grass Hill Alpacas – A local farm in Haydenville, MA
Jeffersons Store - A street wear clothing store in Bergenfield, N.J
Helen’s Pizza - Jersey City, N.J., you can get a slice of pizza for 0.00339 bitcoin by pointing your phone at a sign next to the cash register
A Class Limousine - Pick you up and drop you off at Newark (N.J.) Airport
Fiverr.com – Get almost anything done for $5
Seoclerks.com – Get SEO work done on your site cheap
Namecheap – Cheap domain registration company
Sacramento Kings – Professional Basketball team out in Sacramental California (NBA)
Mint.com - Mint pulls all your financial accounts into one place. Set a budget, track your goals and do more
with your money, for free! (Source: mint.com)
TechCrunch.com – IT blog
Fancy.com - Discover amazing stuff, collect the things you love, buy it all in one place (Source: Fancy)
Bing by Microsoft – 2nd search engine to Google
Bloomberg.com – Online newspaper
Humblebundle.com – Indie game site
BigFishGames.com – Games for PC, Mac and Smartphones (iPhone, Android, Windows)
Suntimes.com – Chicago based online newspaper
San Jose Earthquakes – San Jose California Professional Soccer Team (MLS)
Square – Payment processor that help small businesses accept credit cards using iPhone, Android or iPad
Crowdtilt.com - The fastest and easiest way to pool funds with family and friends (Source: crowdtilt)
Lumfile – Server company that offers free cloud-based servers
Museum of the Coastal Bend - 2200 East Red River Street, Victoria, Texas 77901, USA
Home Depot - Office supplies store
Kmart - Retail products store
Sears - Clothing and household products, electronic store
Gap, GameStop and JC Penney – have to use eGifter.com
Etsy Vendors – Original art and Jewelry creations
Fight for the Future – Leading organization finding for Internet freedom
i-Pmart (ipmart.com.my) – A Malaysian online mobile phone and electronic parts retailer
curryupnow.com - A total of 12 restaurants on the list of restaurants accept bitcoins in San Francisco Bay Area
Dish Network - An American direct-broadcast satellite service provider
Apple’s App Store - Buy music and any app on the Apple AppStore with bitcoins
The Libertarian Party – United States political party
Yacht-base.com – Croatian yacht charter company
Euro Pacific – A major precious metal dealer
CEX – The trade-in chain has a shop in Glasgow, Scotland that accepts bitcoin
Straub Auto Repairs - 477 Warburton Ave, Hastings-on-Hudson, NY 10706 - (914) 478-1177
PSP Mollie – Dutch Payment Service
Intuit - an American software company that develops financial and tax preparation software and related services for small businesses, accountants and individuals.
Newegg.com – Online electronics retailer now uses bitpay to accept bitcoin as payment
ShopJoy – An Australian online retailer that sells novelty and unique gifts
Wikipedia - The Free Encyclopedia with 4 570 000+ article
Lv.net - Las Vegas high speed internet services
ExpressVPN.com – High speed, ultra secure VPN network
Grooveshark – Online music streaming service based in the United States
Dell - American privately owned multinational computer technology company
Braintree – Well known payments processor
MIT Coop Store - Massachusetts Institute of Technology student bookstore
SimplePay - Nigeria’s most popular web and mobile-based wallet service
SFU bookstore - Simon Fraser University in Vancouver, Canada
State Republican Party – First State Republican Party to accept bitcoin donations (http://www.lagop.com/bitcoin-donate)
mspinc.com – Respiratory medical equipment supplies store
1-800-FLOWERS.COM
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21129097 - 01/16/15 12:45 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do those places only take the bitcoin?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox
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Mt. Gox was a Bitcoin exchange based in Tokyo, Japan. It was launched in July 2010, and by 2013 was handling 70% of all Bitcoin transactions.[1] In February 2014, the Mt. Gox company suspended trading, closed its website and exchange service, and filed for a form of bankruptcy protection from creditors called minji saisei, or civil rehabilitation, to allow courts to seek a buyer.[2][3] In April 2014, the company began liquidation proceedings.[4] It announced that around 850,000 bitcoins belonging to customers and the company were missing and likely stolen, an amount valued at more than $450 million at the time.[5][6] Although 200,000 bitcoins have since been "found", the reason(s) for the disappearance—theft, fraud, mismanagement, or a combination of these—are unclear as of March 2014
The currency of idiot hipster trendoids
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21129139 - 01/16/15 12:52 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Where dear sir did anyone say they "only" took bitcoins? Thanks in advance.
It was said that they took them. Its like taking mastercard and visa but they also take cash and now bitcoin. Its one of the currencies of the new generation and dinosaurs cant keep up.
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21129182 - 01/16/15 01:03 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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But I have seen BitCoin demanded as payment for a hotdog salesman.
demand means they only accept that.
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: psyconaught]
#21129263 - 01/16/15 01:21 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Try quoting or referring to the one who said it. Clue: it was not me.
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21129279 - 01/16/15 01:24 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nobody said it was.
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21129298 - 01/16/15 01:29 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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He referred to my post in his post. Buy a clue if you don't have one.
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: Stonehenge]
#21129353 - 01/16/15 01:44 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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He referred to my post in his post. Buy a clue if you don't have one.
i replied to you because you made a false claim. I provided a quote that showed you were wrong.
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21129500 - 01/16/15 02:30 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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But I have seen BitCoin demanded as payment for a hotdog salesman.
Bullshit.
Haha I thought so too myself! Turns out, I'm not joking. He was selling hotdogs for BTC at a Libertarian Conference. (Specifically, it is a joint-conference of different Alumni and Societies. The State-less Society, various AnCap groups, etc.) Was really cool. Jeffrey Tucker, one of the leading AnCap voices, can be seen laughing at it in one of his "I am Anarchy" videos. It could even be the same guy. 
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: psyconaught]
#21129516 - 01/16/15 02:35 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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But I have seen BitCoin demanded as payment for a hotdog salesman.
demand means they only accept that.
Indeed, they are were only accepting that.
Who the hell is going to pay taxes at a meeting of people who don't agree with taxes. Of people who feel they are being robbed of their life. You should feel the same.
You're breaking the law if you sell a hotdog without paying tax. We were in the most incarcerated city in the most incarcerated State in the most incarcerated Nation on the Earth. I.e, New Orleans, LA. (If you don't believe me, look it up. It shouldn't shock you, anyways.)
Just sell your shit in BTC, damn. You don't even have to pay as outrageous premiums in BTC for things like silver. You can buy under-premiums in BTC, and sell for a premium in USD. You're providing a worthwhile service (you can provide silver to people who are opting out of dollars.) AND you're transferring prosperity from the dollar, and into BTC and other person-to-person currencies. 
It's just Capitalism, bro.
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21129533 - 01/16/15 02:38 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do those places only take the bitcoin?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox
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Mt. Gox was a Bitcoin exchange based in Tokyo, Japan. It was launched in July 2010, and by 2013 was handling 70% of all Bitcoin transactions.[1] In February 2014, the Mt. Gox company suspended trading, closed its website and exchange service, and filed for a form of bankruptcy protection from creditors called minji saisei, or civil rehabilitation, to allow courts to seek a buyer.[2][3] In April 2014, the company began liquidation proceedings.[4] It announced that around 850,000 bitcoins belonging to customers and the company were missing and likely stolen, an amount valued at more than $450 million at the time.[5][6] Although 200,000 bitcoins have since been "found", the reason(s) for the disappearance—theft, fraud, mismanagement, or a combination of these—are unclear as of March 2014
The currency of idiot hipster trendoids
I'm sorry, exactly what are you suggesting?
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: psyconaught]
#21129567 - 01/16/15 02:45 PM (9 years, 3 months ago) |
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>i replied to you because you made a false claim. I provided a quote that showed you were wrong.
How do you like eating crow?
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: Jkinder313]
#21129659 - 01/16/15 03:03 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
zappaisgod said:
Do those places only take the bitcoin?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mt._Gox
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Mt. Gox was a Bitcoin exchange based in Tokyo, Japan. It was launched in July 2010, and by 2013 was handling 70% of all Bitcoin transactions.[1] In February 2014, the Mt. Gox company suspended trading, closed its website and exchange service, and filed for a form of bankruptcy protection from creditors called minji saisei, or civil rehabilitation, to allow courts to seek a buyer.[2][3] In April 2014, the company began liquidation proceedings.[4] It announced that around 850,000 bitcoins belonging to customers and the company were missing and likely stolen, an amount valued at more than $450 million at the time.[5][6] Although 200,000 bitcoins have since been "found", the reason(s) for the disappearance—theft, fraud, mismanagement, or a combination of these—are unclear as of March 2014
The currency of idiot hipster trendoids
I'm sorry, exactly what are you suggesting?
That it is a dipshit commodity for trendoid retards.
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: zappaisgod]
#21129734 - 01/16/15 03:19 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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It's not a commodity. It's just money-a medium of exchange for goods and services.
BitCoin is not fiat. BitCoin has value. But it's not a commodity. It could become a commodity, but it's not one currently.
The people with BitCoin will still be able to buy things when the dollar's hyper-inflated by the way...
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: Jkinder313]
#21129764 - 01/16/15 03:24 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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It is a commodity just like any other currency
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Re: Any Anarcho-Capitalists/Libertarians present? [Re: Jkinder313]
#21129813 - 01/16/15 03:34 PM (9 years, 2 months ago) |
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It is a quasi currency and a commodity of sorts. The advantages are that you can send it anywhere to anyone with a bit wallet without govt interference. You don't have to send a check that needs to clear, no credit cards used, no trip down to money gram or western union, pay a fee and be on record. No one knows you sent it except you and the recipient.
For those of us who resent govt on our backs telling us what we can and can't do, its a great thing. You can't carry more than a certain amount of cash over the border without declaring it but you can send any amount via btc. For those of us who resent govt spying on us, its a great way to avoid that. Use pgp for communications and you are set to go. There is a big demand for certain things the govt doesn't want us to have, in case you hadn't noticed. 
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