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Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags?
    #20900809 - 11/28/14 03:19 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, so grower since 2000, but also have not touched anything cult related in about 5 + years other than teaching an Earth Day class on recycling - I know everyone here is up to state of the art,so here's my question;

I've always thought it would be nice to be able to grab a bag of organic microwavable "rice or grain" bag off the shelf at the supermarket - and with no preparation other than basic steril bathroom techniques, inject with spores/LC, incubate and use as spawn. Has this happened yet?

Something like this stuff?


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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: dwpineal]
    #20900837 - 11/28/14 03:26 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I actually think this has been tried before. the moisture content is going to be off though so they tried steaming it out in a microwave and poking a hole in it.

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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20900881 - 11/28/14 03:42 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

This would just make a jar of sticky hot-mess. Not to mention, the microwave radiation would ruin them during the long cycle of sterilization. Brown rice flour and verm is much easier.


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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: TheMustardTiger]
    #20900895 - 11/28/14 03:46 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

also organic means shit, it doesn't mean there's no preservatives it just means there are no synthetic ones.

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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: TheMustardTiger]
    #20900908 - 11/28/14 03:50 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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This would just make a jar of sticky hot-mess. Not to mention, the microwave radiation would ruin them during the long cycle of sterilization. Brown rice flour and verm is much easier.





Actually I don't want to use the Microwave, I figure the bag has been pre-cooked already (so should be sterile already)

I just wanted to try to use it off the shelf -> alcohol the outside of the bag -> inoculate -> cover the injection site with micropore tape -> incubate -> colonize - spawn.

Main concern is yes - moisture content and then air exchange.

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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: dwpineal]
    #20900918 - 11/28/14 03:53 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

try it

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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: dwpineal]
    #20900980 - 11/28/14 04:08 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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This would just make a jar of sticky hot-mess. Not to mention, the microwave radiation would ruin them during the long cycle of sterilization. Brown rice flour and verm is much easier.





Actually I don't want to use the Microwave, I figure the bag has been pre-cooked already (so should be sterile already)

I just wanted to try to use it off the shelf -> alcohol the outside of the bag -> inoculate -> cover the injection site with micropore tape -> incubate -> colonize - spawn.

Main concern is yes - moisture content and then air exchange.




Just because it's cooked doesn't mean its sterile. Hey, by all means try it, but I'm going to say this won't work very well.


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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: dwpineal] * 1
    #20901167 - 11/28/14 05:13 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Here is a unsterilized WBS bag. I would try the rice. I would use an LC. I am watching this thread.



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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: blackdust]
    #20901172 - 11/28/14 05:15 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Yep, make sure you spit and piss on it while you're at it.


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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: TheMustardTiger]
    #20901418 - 11/28/14 06:11 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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bodhisatta said:
try it




I suppose that is the only acid test...I gues I would use a LOT of LC to offset low Moisture content...



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Just because it's cooked doesn't mean its sterile. Hey, by all means try it, but I'm going to say this won't work very well.




I was hoping the "food status" would require a level of sterility...but again, just a hippie thinking things...


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Here is a unsterilized WBS bag. I would try the rice. I would use an LC. I am watching this thread.







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Yep, make sure you spit and piss on it while you're at it.




This is why I've been a member for so many years- the top grade info we share with each other +5 :mushroom2: for you! - thanks for the cutting edge - It's been a while, so I was hoping someone would share the latest teks.

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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: dwpineal]
    #20901439 - 11/28/14 06:14 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

latest teks you say, click the first link in my signature.

if anything you would have to use very little LC those pre-fab rice bags are too wet if anything.

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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20901445 - 11/28/14 06:16 PM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: tokeweed420]
    #20903716 - 11/29/14 09:05 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

Okay I'll try to acquire some oyster LC in the Marketplace and report back. We'll assume anything that works for oysters will translate easily to cubes...

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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: dwpineal]
    #20903806 - 11/29/14 09:40 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

someone did this with canned corn

and i swear it was attempted again with better pictures...but i can't find it.

i would go for it though, but it will be hard to see contamination.


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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: blindingleaf]
    #20903917 - 11/29/14 10:21 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

oysters stand a better chance, they're way fast colonizers and can fend off some contaminations

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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: bodhisatta]
    #20903946 - 11/29/14 10:32 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I dig it. I will try tomorrow morning. I have lc and will be knocking up jars. Gonna need ge though


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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: azur]
    #20903958 - 11/29/14 10:38 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

I kno i saw a tek on using wbr, and they cooked it like they were guna ear it and then pcd it, i beleuv it worked, it was on here or mycotopia

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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: tkat420]
    #20903968 - 11/29/14 10:41 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

9er tek is close to it, cooking ling brown rice..

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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: azur]
    #20903971 - 11/29/14 10:42 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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I dig it. I will try tomorrow morning. I have lc and will be knocking up jars. Gonna need ge though





How come we need GE holes for jars but not monos during colonization?

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Re: Newb Question - Spawn generation using pre-cooked/microwave grain/rice bags? [Re: blackdust]
    #20903979 - 11/29/14 10:45 AM (9 years, 3 months ago)

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azur said:
I dig it. I will try tomorrow morning. I have lc and will be knocking up jars. Gonna need ge though





How come we need GE holes for jars but not monos during colonization?




The lids on tubs are imperfect and allow for GE


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