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Martha Fernback’s tragic experience proves the need for drug reform
    #20771733 - 10/30/14 10:13 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Martha Fernback’s tragic experience proves the need for drug reform
Let’s be honest about the damage caused by drug laws that fail to protect and can proliferate criminality

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        theguardian.com, Thursday 30 October 2014 09.17 GMT
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Martha Fernback inquest ‘Martha Fernback’s mother argues in her blog that we are not currently taking an evidence-based approach.’ Photograph: Family handout/PA

On 20 July 2013, Martha Fernback swallowed half a gram of MDMA powder and died. She was 15 years old. Martha should be celebrating her 17th birthday today. She isn’t because the current drug laws failed to protect her. Because prohibition hasn’t stopped risk taking, but it has made those risks worse.

On Martha’s birthday her mother, Anne-Marie Cockburn, will be in parliament to listen to MPs debating whether or not the terms of the Misuse of Drugs Act should be based on an assessment of the best possible evidence.

In her incredibly moving blog, What Martha Did Next, Anne-Marie argues that we are not currently taking an evidence-based approach – that under prohibition it’s impossible to fully educate people like Martha because there is no way to tell what substances contain. It’s a powerful point and one I’ll be making when I lead the parliamentary debate, which is happening in response to almost 135,000 people signing a petition calling for a rethink of our drug laws.

Since it was passed in 1971, there has been no process of reviewing whether or not the Misuse of Drugs Act is achieving its dual objectives of reducing drug misuse and the associated social harms. Drug misuse destroys individuals, families and communities. Having ineffective drug policies only compounds the damage.

All too often success in the so-called “war on drugs” is measured in terms of numbers of arrests or drug seizures, when in fact many of us believe we should be assessing whether or not harms are declining.

As the home secretary acknowledges in the foreword to her government’s current drugs strategy: individuals do not take drugs in isolation from what is happening in the rest of their lives. Poverty, social exclusion and inequality all have an impact on drug use and drug markets.

Research by The Equality Trust shows a clear and demonstrable correlation between drug misuse and inequality and there is a strong tendency for drug abuse to be more common in more unequal countries such as the UK. Therefore, ending social exclusion must be part of any effective strategy on reducing drug-related harms; in order to do that we need to marshal all the evidence we have.

... more on: http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/oct/30/drug-reform-martha-fernback-tragic-experience-need-drugs-laws?CMP=twt_gu


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Re: Martha Fernback’s tragic experience proves the need for drug reform [Re: Simplepowa]
    #20771797 - 10/30/14 10:38 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

I actually wouldn't be surprised if half a gram of real MDMA killed a 15 year old girl... I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't real MDMA either, but legal bullshit aside, that was stupidly irresponsible

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Re: Martha Fernback’s tragic experience proves the need for drug reform [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #20773225 - 10/30/14 03:58 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

.5 is a huge dose but ive done it before so  it wasn't the MDMA, maybe over heating or something  because real pure mdma wouldnt kill someone at that dose.


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Re: Martha Fernback’s tragic experience proves the need for drug reform [Re: DiscoBiscuitsTrip]
    #20773815 - 10/30/14 06:13 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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DiscoBiscuitsTrip said:
.5 is a huge dose but ive done it before so  it wasn't the MDMA, maybe over heating or something  because real pure mdma wouldnt kill someone at that dose.




.5g is a biig dose of MDMA but it wouldn't kill you. MDMA gets extremely psychedelic, and not in a nice way before it gets dangerous, potentially lethal dose is several grams for most people.

Edited by XTCentral (10/30/14 06:13 PM)

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Re: Martha Fernback’s tragic experience proves the need for drug reform [Re: XTCentral]
    #20776766 - 10/31/14 11:43 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

Were you guys a 15 year old girl? Remember body weight is a factor. As are all the unknown variables such as whether or not she was mixing other drugs or in hot packed club or whatever.

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    #20778890 - 10/31/14 10:56 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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DiscoBiscuitsTrip said:
.5 is a huge dose but ive done it before so  it wasn't the MDMA,




Well that is some logic, it didn't kill you so it can't kill anyone else?

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Re: Martha Fernback’s tragic experience proves the need for drug reform [Re: my3rdeye]
    #20778961 - 10/31/14 11:24 PM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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DiscoBiscuitsTrip said:
.5 is a huge dose but ive done it before so  it wasn't the MDMA,




Well that is some logic, it didn't kill you so it can't kill anyone else?




I doubt it would. Synthetic Cannabinoids for example cause much more random and dangerous adverse reactions in people. I took a pill today and as it hit me I OD'd on synthetic cannbinoids . . . wow it fucked me so hard. As the cannbinoids wore off completely I was just high on the pill and doing perfectly though.

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Re: Martha Fernback’s tragic experience proves the need for drug reform [Re: XTCentral]
    #20779413 - 11/01/14 05:24 AM (9 years, 4 months ago)

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DiscoBiscuitsTrip said:
.5 is a huge dose but ive done it before so  it wasn't the MDMA, maybe over heating or something  because real pure mdma wouldnt kill someone at that dose.



In another article on this it says police found the MDMA was 91% pure, compared to an average of 58%. So it sounds like it was MDMA. And she took it in a public park, so overheating probably wasn't an issue.

But considering a strong ecstasy pill is 140mg of MDMA, so she took the equivalent of 3 and a half strong doses, it's surprising it killed her.

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