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 Fractal420
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 Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation?  [Re: Fractal420]
#20746188 - 10/24/14 06:44 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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He probably wants to poison a friend. No harm done. All in the interest of research and experimentation. You could possibly also extract amatoxin? Put it in their morning tea?
But, yes, again, seems like a disaster waiting to happen.
Imagine, it becomes common knowledge and FAQs are released on how to grow death caps, and vendors can stock different strains from different areas
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: 13shrooms]
#20746191 - 10/24/14 06:45 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morchella
Toxicity
Morels contain small amounts ofhydrazine[31] toxins that are removed by thorough cooking; morel mushrooms should never be eaten raw.[32] It has been reported that even cooked morels can sometimes cause mild intoxicationsymptoms when consumed with alcohol.
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Fractal420
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#20746195 - 10/24/14 06:46 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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^intoxication, huh?
:P
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Fractal420]
#20746309 - 10/24/14 07:43 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maybe the Amanita muscaria aka "fly agaric". They are poisonous, yet some people actually still eat them. They are active I guess but could probably make one sick as hell if they ate to many. I wouldn't... some of the white species could be deadly. Such as the "destroying angel" 
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Edited by FreeWorldOrder (10/24/14 07:50 AM)
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bodhisatta
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I've seen some amanita species fruited before but I'm not sure if they're the deadly species(death cap or destroying angel) or not.
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Mr. Alien
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Fractal420]
#20746382 - 10/24/14 08:13 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Fractal420 said:
He probably wants to poison a friend.
That's what i though. With so many species to grow, you choose poison mushrooms?    
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taGyo
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: ToxicDuck]
#20746430 - 10/24/14 08:27 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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ToxicDuck said:
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moehd said:
when i hunt for mushrooms half of them are poisonous
Yeah, some mushrooms are more poisonous than others. For some reason if someone wants to grow a poisonous mushroom in my mind it seems it'd make sense that they'd try to grow the most poisonous ones  .
Says ToxicDuck 
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Fractal420
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: taGyo]
#20746497 - 10/24/14 08:50 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I thought most amanitas with the *possible* exception of muscaria and pantherina are poisonous (and as far as I know, those are poisonous too, they're just also psychoactive). I'm pretty sure even those two can kill you, which would make them toxic. I know that there are some that are just plain deadly but, like I said, I was always under the impression the whole genus was toxic.
Anyway, to the OP, can you explain what you're actually doing and what you need to propagate poisonous mushrooms for? Not judging or anything, I am actually curious. Most people who own snakes do not own poisonous ones. I doubt you'd want a tub of death shrooms being fanned and ventilated throughout the house, although another issue is: it depends on just how toxic the mushroom is.
Why not just grow infected mushrooms? Just make some jars, PC them so that spores can grow, but then add contams towards the end when they can fruit and bam, some awesome infected mushroom. Your friend would love em 
Or you can feed them trich-myc.
(Sorry I had to, with the IM reference)
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: bodhisatta]
#20746627 - 10/24/14 09:31 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yea I've seen some of the old "high times" photos of some of the kits and they had a picture of the "Red Fly Agaric" species in the ad. Still don't know why someone would even want those, when there are so many great cubes and pans to choose from. This was in ads a long time ago though. Like 20 years or more....lol.
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Fractal420
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Fractal420]
#20746650 - 10/24/14 09:40 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Are you trying to poison someone?
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Fractal420
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: pawnzy]
#20746773 - 10/24/14 10:12 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's what I said lol. "Here's an 8th, you got that 30? Enjoy"
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#20746818 - 10/24/14 10:22 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
Pastywhyte said:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morchella
Toxicity
Morels contain small amounts ofhydrazine[31] toxins that are removed by thorough cooking; morel mushrooms should never be eaten raw.[32] It has been reported that even cooked morels can sometimes cause mild intoxicationsymptoms when consumed with alcohol.
Yeah, but who eats morels raw anyways? I am pretty sure many mushrooms we commonly eat, even the "white button" mushrooms you buy at the store are slightly toxic, until cooked.
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bodhisatta
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: d0urd3n]
#20746836 - 10/24/14 10:26 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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as far as I know you're stomach is going to have a rough time with every uncooked mushroom. that's why eating cubes fucks your stomach up. not the psilocin.
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blojo02184
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: bodhisatta]
#20746930 - 10/24/14 10:53 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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no you sound like a crazy person trying to dose someone out of your life...
im sketched out....
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: d0urd3n]
#20746963 - 10/24/14 11:01 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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d0urd3n said:
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Pastywhyte said:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morchella
Toxicity
Morels contain small amounts ofhydrazine[31] toxins that are removed by thorough cooking; morel mushrooms should never be eaten raw.[32] It has been reported that even cooked morels can sometimes cause mild intoxicationsymptoms when consumed with alcohol.
Yeah, but who eats morels raw anyways? I am pretty sure many mushrooms we commonly eat, even the "white button" mushrooms you buy at the store are slightly toxic, until cooked.
Beside the point. Morels are technically toxic which was the point in question. Also agaricus are not toxic at all but if you eat too many raw ones you might get the shits from the chitin.
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#20746972 - 10/24/14 11:03 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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poisoning with mushrooms is just wrong why not nightshade root
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supernewfie
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: blojo02184]
#20746980 - 10/24/14 11:04 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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most poisonous mushrooms are only dangerous or fatal if digested...
I don't know of any species that the spores may be harmful poisonous/toxic, but just having them growing wouldn't cause harm if not, since the spores are the only part that can go airbourne.... its not like the mushroom itself have some kind of ambient toxic forcefield around them just being in their presence is detrimental to your health..
Edited by supernewfie (10/24/14 11:31 AM)
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: supernewfie]
#20746984 - 10/24/14 11:06 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oyster spores can cause severe allergic reactions. I can't grow them cause my dog is really allergic to them.
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supernewfie
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Re: Poisonous Mushroom Cultivation? [Re: Pastywhyte]
#20747020 - 10/24/14 11:14 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah I've heard of the oysters spores cause allergic reactions, but they are not technically "toxic" or poisonous, and not everyone is allergic to them. I was just writing in reply to an earlier post by someone saying its dangerous to grow a poisonous species in your house. it cant kill you unless you eat it, in which case it would probably be suicide because why would you eat something you know is extremely poisonous... maybe a pet or something might get into them but I doubt anyone would just start eating a random mushroom someone else have growing in their house.. someone said something about handling the muchroom and licking your hand or some shit, I doubt that would cause any extreme harm either, I seen some people take a small bite out of some random ass muchrooms and spit it out just to see what it tastes like... its only when digested it gets processed through the liver and causes failure
either way I wouldn't advise growing poisonous mushrooms in your house, not much point.. I was just saying it wouldn't be harmful
Edited by supernewfie (10/24/14 07:25 PM)
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