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Sheekle
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Moonshoe ur so wrong. Weed causes paranoia in otherwise mentally healthy people, it's an effect of the drug. How come ur so wrong?
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: Sheekle]
#20737433 - 10/22/14 10:40 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Definitely had some very uncomfortable highs before. I would say pot is a very unpredictable drug.
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Tmethyl
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: Sheekle]
#20737435 - 10/22/14 10:40 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sheekle said:
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Shroomopotamus said: try smoking less or spread your tokes out more just because you pack a full bowl doesn't mean you NEED to finish the bowl right then and there at that very moment
Qft
I take like one or two hits at a time and it makes me and
If I smoke too much I and
I thought this too, and for the most part this works for me, but there have been times where I only take one hit, or a small hit, and still get really shaky, nervous, and generally stressed. Last year I bought a bag of weed and smoked on it for over a month, I was smoking very small amounts at a time, but I ended up giving the rest of the bag away because it was just unpleasant, even in micro doses. I'm a big pussy, or extremely sensitive, or allergic? Maybe all of these.
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bigjoshman
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: Tmethyl]
#20737455 - 10/22/14 10:46 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Weed hates you too! I love it it loves me, if you abuse it it abuses you =p all about moderation. get a vape you can set the temp to give you a head high or a stoned high.
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: bigjoshman] 1
#20737472 - 10/22/14 10:52 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I had some difficulty with weed as well, but I got through it. So either I'm fine, or gotten so crazy I don't even notice it any more.
Drugs are not for everybody, man.
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: Tmethyl]
#20737482 - 10/22/14 10:56 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Tmethyl said:
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Sheekle said:
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Shroomopotamus said: try smoking less or spread your tokes out more just because you pack a full bowl doesn't mean you NEED to finish the bowl right then and there at that very moment
Qft
I take like one or two hits at a time and it makes me and
If I smoke too much I and
I thought this too, and for the most part this works for me, but there have been times where I only take one hit, or a small hit, and still get really shaky, nervous, and generally stressed. Last year I bought a bag of weed and smoked on it for over a month, I was smoking very small amounts at a time, but I ended up giving the rest of the bag away because it was just unpleasant, even in micro doses. I'm a big pussy, or extremely sensitive, or allergic? Maybe all of these.
Not going to lie, getting a vape may help you. I found that vaping takes away all of my unfavorable aspects of weed so it improves the overall quality of the high a lot. Also, there is just something about smoking weed that makes me feel uncomfortable if I smoke too much. Perhaps it is because whenever I am in a group I am smoking and not vaping so maybe smoking around a group of people rather than at home alone with my vape causes the uncomfortable aspects. I don't really know
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: Webster10]
#20737499 - 10/22/14 11:01 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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i feel like vapes get you way higher
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: Tmethyl]
#20737573 - 10/22/14 11:20 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I dont smoke at parties or in social situations bc it makes me awkward and retarded. I love smoking by myself though. My highs are less uncomfortable now that I have a decent tolerance. But back in the old days I definitely had some super ridiculous highs that were basically trips
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: Bassfreak]
#20737669 - 10/22/14 11:48 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hate vapes, I enjoy feeling my hits.
With a vape it's like, "wait a minute I needa hit that again."
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Webster10
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: Bassfreak]
#20737682 - 10/22/14 11:52 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bassfreak said: i feel like vapes get you way higher
I've been an avid smoker and vaper in the past.
I will never go back to smoking. I enjoy the taste of my bud too much and some pieces just don't do it for me no matter how much bud I pack in. I can cram my vape full of nug and turn the heat up and I will be chocking midway through the bowl.
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: Sheekle]
#20737781 - 10/22/14 12:24 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: Moonshoe ur so wrong. Weed causes paranoia in otherwise mentally healthy people, it's an effect of the drug. How come ur so wrong?
Paranoia, anxiety and panic attacks are normal side effects for some people.
Psychosis and delusions such as those described by the op are not.
Psychosis and paranoia are totally different things.
Psychosis is a form of mental illness and not a normal side effect Of weed.
And yes if these effects were caused by mushrooms that would not indicate an underlying mental illness .
Anyone no matter how mentally healthy can potentially go psychotic during a high enough dose of mushrooms. As long as the psychosis does not persist longer then the Duration of the mushroom high it does not indicate mental illness. But if you have that experience you should likely avoid using mushrooms again.
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: Moonshoe]
#20737790 - 10/22/14 12:26 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I don't hate it, I just don't worship it like I used to. There are far better highs out there imho
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SleepyE
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: Moonshoe]
#20737818 - 10/22/14 12:31 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said:
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Sheekle said: Moonshoe ur so wrong. Weed causes paranoia in otherwise mentally healthy people, it's an effect of the drug. How come ur so wrong?
Paranoia, anxiety and panic attacks are normal side effects for some people.
Psychosis and delusions such as those described by the op are not.
Psychosis and paranoia are totally different things.
Psychosis is a form of mental illness and not a normal side effect Of weed.
And yes if these effects were caused by mushrooms that would not indicate an underlying mental illness .
Anyone no matter how mentally healthy can potentially go psychotic during a high enough dose of mushrooms. As long as the psychosis does not persist longer then the Duration of the mushroom high it does not indicate mental illness. But if you have that experience you should likely avoid using mushrooms again.
My opinion is that excessive use of weed and/or psychedelics will eventually lead to psychosis in anyone/everyone.
I know people will probably disagree but try making someone smoke massive amounts of DMT almost daily and see if they still conform to this reality.
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: SleepyE]
#20737852 - 10/22/14 12:40 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I use to get similar reactions but once you increase the dosage and do more things high that you'd do normally do sober, your brain relearns and now you can be stoned all day. The newest development for me has been controlling the dreaded munchies. I've worked on my will power and regular body knowledge so I eat first then drink water when I smoke.
The first bite is what kills ya. Once you get a drop of peanut butter or something on the tongue its game over man.
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: SleepyE]
#20737868 - 10/22/14 12:45 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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When used at a young age, marijuana has been shown to drop IQ points later in life, but as for anyone with a fully developed brain it's much safer.
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: uglyman]
#20737876 - 10/22/14 12:47 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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uglyman said: When used at a young age, marijuana has been shown to drop IQ points later in life, but as for anyone with a fully developed brain it's much safer.
A recent study showed this to be untrue and that moderate use of marijuana in adolescence does not cause any impairment of intelligence. Also IQ is a highly questionable measure of anything.
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: uglyman]
#20737880 - 10/22/14 12:48 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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uglyman said: When used at a young age, marijuana has been shown to drop IQ points later in life, but as for anyone with a fully developed brain it's much safer.
You got a peer reviewed study to back that up? http://www.pnas.org/content/110/11/4251
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: Moonshoe]
#20737892 - 10/22/14 12:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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That's good. Where can I see the study? There's been a lot of controversy on that specific topic.
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Shroomism
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: uglyman]
#20737893 - 10/22/14 12:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just posted a link And yeah IQ is a highly questionable measure of anything in the first place.
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Re: I fucking hate pot thread [Re: uglyman]
#20737899 - 10/22/14 12:50 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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uglyman said: When used at a young age, marijuana has been shown to drop IQ points later in life, but as for anyone with a fully developed brain it's much safer.
I'm not sure if i agree with that.
Even if i does "drop" IQ performance it doesn't seem to hinder productivity and creativity in people that are motivated.
In high school i was a full time stoner and i would get baked and then go to my computer engineering class to program robots.
I didn't feel like it hindered my thinking power that much at all. As long as you have a big tolerance the high really doesn't take much problem solving brain power from you.
I'd rather trade a few IQ points for the enhanced creativity weed causes due to changes in dopamine levels.
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