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 kanamit
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 Pinning but mildly concerned 
#20734482 - 10/21/14 05:01 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I birthed a week ago, D&R'd the 12 cakes, and then off to the various chambers. One chamber is pinning madly, and the SGFC is pinning, but slower and a lot thinner with 2 big fruits. I did a search for 'white spots on caps', and found about a dozen posts and threads, but they are really dated. The pic on the top is from my SGFC, while the really good shot on the bottom was taken inside my Erowid style chamber with humidifier. Is it the consensus this white spot is part of PC strains. I can't see it being contam as I have been thorough to a fault. still, the white spot makes me leery. The humidity is not too high, and the big one is actually running drier than the healthy humidity fed cakes. I was wondering if the group has any idea if this is normal, or not. Thanx in advance!!
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 Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: kanamit]
#20734506 - 10/21/14 05:07 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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The picture with the 4 cakes looks a bit dry to me.
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Quote:
MustardTiger66 said:
The picture with the 4 cakes looks a bit dry to me.
Idk, the top left cake looks wet.
Hard to tell.
It looks like your FAE could be a little bit better..
They look good other than that though.
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Edited by PurePleasure (10/21/14 05:26 PM)
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kanamit
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That sounds wild to me MT66! Those 4 are grown in almost 90-95% humidity. I was thinking the other ones in the SGFC were the crew not getting enough RH, but what do I know about this stuff? I'm just reading as much as I can and staying within parameters. I think Pure Pleasure sees it in a different light. I know the pix suck, but I am trying to Auto Focus in a closed area without disturbing the patients, please bear with me. The SGFC is a bit dry, but I think it is because I am growing in a room that is AC due to the temp of the state. I am going to change out the air and re soak the perlite and see if that makes a difference. I still don't have any idea what the whitehead stuff is about, but my spore strain said it was a 'special' hybrid. Now I've read that to make a hybrid, you have to have a fancy equipped lab and be a genuine mycologist. The entity I bought my strain from did not strike me as such.
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: kanamit]
#20734609 - 10/21/14 05:34 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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kanamit said:
That sounds wild to me MT66! Those 4 are grown in almost 90-95% humidity. I was thinking the other ones in the SGFC were the crew not getting enough RH, but what do I know about this stuff? I'm just reading as much as I can and staying within parameters. I think Pure Pleasure sees it in a different light. I know the pix suck, but I am trying to Auto Focus in a closed area without disturbing the patients, please bear with me. The SGFC is a bit dry, but I think it is because I am growing in a room that is AC due to the temp of the state. I am going to change out the air and re soak the perlite and see if that makes a difference. I still don't have any idea what the whitehead stuff is about, but my spore strain said it was a 'special' hybrid. Now I've read that to make a hybrid, you have to have a fancy equipped lab and be a genuine mycologist. The entity I bought my strain from did not strike me as such.
yes it is hard to tell in the pictures.
I wouldn't fool with the sgfc..
How often are you misting and fanning?
If your on the dry side, then just mist a little more often.
can we see a pic of your setup?
is your sgfc off the ground?
hoe much perlite do you have in it?
Edited by PurePleasure (10/21/14 05:35 PM)
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: PurePleasure]
#20734628 - 10/21/14 05:38 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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how many cakes are in each chamber
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: PurePleasure]
#20734658 - 10/21/14 05:45 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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This is the SGFC I built. There is over 4 " of perlite on the base. I have started to mist and fan 3-4 times a day. They cakes look healthy, but the pins are inordinately huge at the bottom of the cakes. Does that mean just the base of the cakes are getting enough RH?
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: TeeRoy87]
#20734669 - 10/21/14 05:47 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I put 8 in the SGFC, and 4 in the humidifier setup. I may move the 4 into the Humidified chamber.
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: kanamit]
#20734688 - 10/21/14 05:52 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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kanamit said:
This is the SGFC I built. There is over 4 " of perlite on the base. I have started to mist and fan 3-4 times a day. They cakes look healthy, but the pins are inordinately huge at the bottom of the cakes. Does that mean just the base of the cakes are getting enough RH?
No...
Just sounds like MS genetics.
Not the fruiting at just the bottom of the cake, but the uncomparable pinsets..
I would get that tub out from under your sgfc.
It is probably messing with the natural airflow.
also, is that tub getting any light?
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Edited by PurePleasure (10/21/14 05:55 PM)
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: PurePleasure]
#20734700 - 10/21/14 05:58 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have it raised up on a cake stand, but you may be on to something. The base is probably all dead air in the tub. No movement. Maybe I'll make a PVC stand and blow a small fan underneath? I will be moving it out of the AC'd room in a week or so. I'll never try and grow in hi temps again.
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: PurePleasure]
#20734720 - 10/21/14 06:03 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I have a flo light on it 16 hrs a day.
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: kanamit]
#20734733 - 10/21/14 06:05 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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kanamit said:
I have it raised up on a cake stand, but you may be on to something. The base is probably all dead air in the tub. No movement. Maybe I'll make a PVC stand and blow a small fan underneath? I will be moving it out of the AC'd room in a week or so. I'll never try and grow in hi temps again.
My sgfc is always operating in an central air house with no issue.
Just make sure your dont put it near or under the air vent out the ceiling, you know?
And no fans are needed with a sgfc.
a fan is a sgfc worst enemy.
If you want to make a sho nuff sgfc stand, check out the link in my signature.
That can be made for around 30 bucks.Quote:
kanamit said:
I have a flo light on it 16 hrs a day.
bump your light times down to 12 on 12 off.
I am not sure what kelvin your flo light is either, but that could be playing a roll to.
Your cakes dont look horrible at all though man.
dont be to discouraged
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: kanamit]
#20734746 - 10/21/14 06:07 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
kanamit said:
I have it raised up on a cake stand, but you may be on to something. The base is probably all dead air in the tub. No movement. Maybe I'll make a PVC stand and blow a small fan underneath? I will be moving it out of the AC'd room in a week or so. I'll never try and grow in hi temps again.
no, do not do this.
if it is elevated and the bottom holes are exposed, everything is fine. the moisture in the perlite creates a passive airflow. do not add a fan.
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: PurePleasure]
#20734789 - 10/21/14 06:15 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I just use a small desk flo light. From what I read, you don't need much. I hope I can succeed with these. I want to try casings next. Thanx for all the help, man!
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: Munchauzen]
#20734803 - 10/21/14 06:17 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'll take your advice. A fan will just dry the perlite out faster, right?
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: kanamit]
#20734807 - 10/21/14 06:18 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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kanamit said:
I'll take your advice. A fan will just dry the perlite out faster, right?
Bingo
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: kanamit]
#20734814 - 10/21/14 06:20 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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kanamit said:
I'll take your advice. A fan will just dry the perlite out faster, right?
Yep and it messes with natural air currents in the sgfc.
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Thanx for all the help, man!
No problem man! 
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Edited by PurePleasure (10/21/14 06:21 PM)
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: PurePleasure]
#20735060 - 10/21/14 07:02 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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First off, is the white spot on your mushroom's cap mycelium? Or does it look like flesh of the mushroom itself? If it's flesh, then I'd say it's definitely just a mutation and nothing to worry about.
On the other hand.. I've read multiple times and have heard from multiple experienced people that white on the caps means too much humidity.
That the white area is mushroom mycelium trying to colonize on top of another mushroom. I've seen cool pics of a small mushrooms growing off the cap of a larger one. Cool stuff. But I guess it isn't ideal.
Is this old misinformation? Cause I'm kind of shocked no one's mentioned this yet. A couple years back I feel like I read a post a week at least with people encountering this problem.
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Edited by BLINKfan420 (10/21/14 07:03 PM)
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: BLINKfan420]
#20735217 - 10/21/14 07:31 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think I've read where this is probably endemic of the strain I have. I thought it could be mycelium at first, but when I compared it to pins in a humidified chamber, it was the same spot on all the pins. The pins I was worried about were in a SGFC and were a lot sparser than my other chamber. I also read that too much humidity resulted in mycelium growing on the caps, but as this appeared in my too dry SGFC, I have concluded that it is probably native to the fruit I'm growing (I hope!!! gulP!!)
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: kanamit]
#20735251 - 10/21/14 07:39 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well then you've got nothing to worry about. Have fun and happy cultivating! Lol.
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kanamit
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: BLINKfan420]
#20735354 - 10/21/14 07:57 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ha!! With my lengthy track record of calamities, I will always worry about what I do!! I have a habit of always screwing up something. LOL.
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Re: Pinning but mildly concerned [Re: kanamit]
#20738989 - 10/22/14 04:51 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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With another day of pinning, I was able to determine that the white spot is INDEED mycelium. What I thought was too dry is actually too humid!! So much for Kentucky Windage! Both of my hygrometers are cheap shit. I guess I will have go leash on my misting, and as suggested elsewhere, save the humidifier for a small greenhouse. I'm going to retrofit the other humidified chamber into a SGFC. I noticed that the pinning has halted on that one. Maybe I can use the humidifier on a casing setup in the future. Thanx for all the help men!!!
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