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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human] * 1
    #20606565 - 09/23/14 03:06 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Found this guy hanging out at about 12,000 feet in Peru.  It was in a private collection.



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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: golfin_ernie]
    #20606614 - 09/23/14 03:15 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

:jawdrop:


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: golfin_ernie]
    #20609665 - 09/24/14 02:13 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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Found this guy hanging out at about 12,000 feet in Peru.  It was in a private collection.






Most people collect peyote and grow them as well as they harvest them from desert. Don't remember where I read about peyote where some tribes take living peyote and grow it. Picture I have seen some tribe member had few peyote plants growing at container in shade of their house. Don't know are they just some ornaments or sacred totem-plants. Some tribes take peyote off from soil, cut button away and plant root back to hole where it have been taken away. It may be difficult to harvest buttons without take it off from soil and plant back. Some plants may be very dehydrated at desert and shrink very much to underground.

Why not peyote can't live as well in Peru? san pedro and peyote are relatively close to another with effects. Ofc there are some difference.

First time I heard those are cultivated in Peru, it's not impossible at all.:thumbup:
High altitude weather are very similar to desert environment, soil may be different but peyote can grow almost at any soil.

That's cool.. :awesome:

Edited by intelligentlife (09/24/14 02:15 AM)

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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: intelligentlife]
    #20612117 - 09/24/14 03:21 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Here are some of my better looking grafts:
LW "Paila"

LW "Huizache" with a bunch of pups:

LW var caespitosa "La Perdida":

L fricii "el amparo" can you guys tell whether this is a crest or just dichotomous? 

Hard grown caespitosas:

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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: P.Zappatecorum]
    #20615033 - 09/25/14 01:14 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

how does this look fellas? i prolly should be removing the new pere growth right, but i believe the scion has also grown, it wasn't that green before :cool:



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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Rafiikii]
    #20629629 - 09/28/14 07:26 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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how does this look fellas? i prolly should be removing the new pere growth right, but i believe the scion has also grown, it wasn't that green before :cool:






My rule is to remove any other thievery of energy.  This way the button growns and is not stunted. IME, the peres will grow a couple of branches before all energy is put towards the scion.

it looks very nice btw. :super:


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #20643707 - 10/01/14 09:39 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Made this one a little over a week ago,but only because a darn bird pecked a hole in the top of my poor Loph:sad:I've never really grafted before,but so far this thing looks pretty solid,fingers crossed!


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: kactus.brand.g]
    #20644024 - 10/01/14 11:45 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Thats a good one but i would rub out that hopper. I found one munching on my loph once.


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #20644100 - 10/01/14 12:13 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

:werd:

Just this weekend I attended a meeting of a succulent society and learned that one of the threats to wild Lithops populations is a species (several?) of Katydid, the giant ground cricket.


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: LSoares]
    #20644204 - 10/01/14 12:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Can someone tell me whats going on with this little jourd?
Its somewhat new to my collection, and its not looking to good.
What should i do? Is it bugs? Mold?
Please help me save her!


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: total]
    #20644209 - 10/01/14 12:50 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

It looks soooo much worse in a picture too... :sad:

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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: total]
    #20644314 - 10/01/14 01:19 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Use a magnifying glass and look for spider mites (they'll look red and tiny).


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #20644386 - 10/01/14 01:41 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Thats a good one but i would rub out that hopper. I found one munching on my loph once.




Thanks buddy:grin:Oh I know,and he was gone shortly after his photoshoot:grin:

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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: LSoares]
    #20644739 - 10/01/14 03:30 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Use a magnifying glass and look for spider mites (they'll look red and tiny).




If there isn't bugs, there may be fertilizer caused skin burn also.. Damage will grow out and plant have new skin over one or two seasons.

It's still very important to check are there any rsm infection on your plant.

fertilizer burned skin and rsm are pretty similar, but not identical damage.

one very similar damage to loph skin can cause some pesticides.

those 3 damage isn't identical but can seem very similar at skin of lophophora cactus so it's better to use magnify glass to confirm the cause of that.

i have read somewhere spider mites speed up their spreading especially at nitrogen rich environment.. some may confirm this but if so.. high nitrogen in soil can cause two kind of damage at once, nitrogen burn and fast spreading rsm infection.

those bugs seems they don't spread so much if fertilizer levels are low, maybe few plants may got some but usually most of my plants doesn't got any rsm damage over winter, some do.

i have some way get rid of rsm but there are always those bugs, i don't even try to get rid of them all, spiders and predator bugs have find their way to my cactus plants over summer. indoor garden is easy in that sentence once bugs are get rid of and no new plants are moved in, it's hard to get new infection from bugs.

my garden is separated almost totally actual room and they enjoy my absence, i have seen lots of spiders running at my floor towards cactus plant spot. also they have done some web to plants so i am sure they hunt something there..

outdoors those bugs are harder to control compared to indoors where few predators keep good control pests in small number of cactus plant collection.

also humidity are effective against rsm, i have tested to use humid dome to dehdrated rsm infected loph, keep plant in humid (without roots have moisture) few days like 2-5, given it some dry air and again moved them to humid for a while.. lophophora does't die for it but seems it's effective way to remove mites from lophophora via humidity. it need to be done few times to cause new born bugs also got killed(or something) ...they always disappear when humidity rises enough.

dry and hot is very bad combinaton with rsm infection.. temperature drop always increase humidity of air so i suggest to let lophophora have humid and cool nights... but not moist. feels those plants also enjoy cool nights after they have been under sun light and dry over day.

nature have it's own ways, i have stop using any toxic chemicals to cactus. i have very strong pesticide(commercial use only) and it kills all bugs at once, also good ones.. spider mites are immune to that toxic chemical but i keep them away (or get rid of them) with humidity.

that damage in picture is probably caused by rsm what i see about it.

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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: intelligentlife]
    #20645844 - 10/01/14 07:47 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Spider mites will make unhealthy lophs look like shit. Thats spider mites for sure.


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: ferrel_human]
    #20645859 - 10/01/14 07:51 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I have "concentrated" neem...
Do i just dilute it down and mist them with it?
Whats a good Neem:water ratio?

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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: total]
    #20645936 - 10/01/14 08:10 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

the neem should have the ratio on the bottle, make sure you put some soap in there so the water and oil mix


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: Chemical Addiction]
    #20646015 - 10/01/14 08:26 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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total said:
I have "concentrated" neem...
Do i just dilute it down and mist them with it?
Whats a good Neem:water ratio?



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the neem should have the ratio on the bottle, make sure you put some soap in there so the water and oil mix



What he said, although I would use the neem diluted to the directions on the bottle as a systemic and hit the mites with some even more diluted neem spray, then spray it clean with water.  Leaving the neem on your loph can damage the skin even more and make it look even shittier.  Once you have it under control, I do regular systemic neem treatments every few waterings or when whatever mite season kicks off and they seem to be appearing out of no where.  If they're not doing any damage you can just brush them off with a wet q-tip or a blast of distilled water from a spray bottle.  It seems like indoor lophs in cold climates always have a mite or two on them, you've just got to be diligent about killing the bastards daily and they won't get out of hand.


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: RiparianZoneJunky]
    #20647006 - 10/02/14 12:12 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I dont have lophs, but I know I have had AMAZING results with rosemary oil for spider mites....
Better results than neem. 15 drops in a large spray bottle with water and spray away.


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Re: Loph Growers Unite! [Re: cowsRmeat]
    #20647060 - 10/02/14 12:34 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Rosemary oil is super deadly to mites. I have a couple lophs, and one got mites...I made a rosemary oil/silica spray for them...I'm pretty sure they are all dead. Just keep the cactus out of bright sun for a couple/few days after application.

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