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Ghatti
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: motherchimp]
#20482391 - 08/27/14 01:00 AM (9 years, 7 months ago) |
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No. It gets pasteurized.
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eatyualive
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: Ghatti]
#20493847 - 08/29/14 03:43 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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update op with tubs.
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: eatyualive]
#20544371 - 09/09/14 06:11 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am running tests on this substrate using 4 strains: Each one has supercake formula and so ill make this a dual experiment. As you can see the supercake gives you a spawn run in 3-4 days. Ill update as it comes along.
Substrate Ratio Per Tub: 1:3 Ratio Spawn:substrate
- 5 Quarts spawn
- 15 Quarts Volume: 1 Brick Coir/ 2 Quarts Verm/ 1 cup supercake/
2 cups gypsum/ 1/2 cup used coffee
R44: P2G Grain Spawn Used/ Fooman's Grain Tek/ 66 Quart Sterilites
TUB 1:
Day 1: 09-06-2014 Spawn
Day 2: 09-07-2014
Day 3: 09-08-2014
Day 4: 09-09-2014
Day 5: 09-10-2014
Day 6: 09-11-2014
Day 7: 09-12-2014
TUB 2:
Day 1: 09-07-2014 Spawn
Day 2: 09-08-2014
Day 3: 09-09-2014
Day 4: 09-10-2014
Day 5: 09-11-2014
Day 6: 09-12-2014
Day 7: 09-13-2014
Thai Lipa Yai: P2G Grain Spawn Used/ Fooman's Grain Tek/ 66 Quart Sterilite
TUB 1:
Day 1: 09-06-2014 Spawn
Day 2: 09-07-2014
Day 3: 09-08-2014
Day 4: 09-09-2014
Day 5: 09-10-2014
Day 6: 09-11-2014
Day 7: 09-12-2014
Tex Yellow Cap: G2G Grain Spawn Used/ Fooman's Grain Prep/ 77 Quart Iris Clearstack
Day 1: 09-07-2014 Spawn
DAy 2: 09-08-2014
Day 3: 09-09-2014
Day 4: 09-10-2014
Day 5: 09-11-2014
Day 6: 09-12-2014
Day 7: 09-13-2014
F+: Slurry Grain Prep/ Fooman's Grain Tek with 10 minute steep a 20 minute soak, strained 2 times/ 77 Quart Iris Clearstack
TUB 1:
Day 1: 09-07-2014 Spawn
Day 2: 09-08-2014
Day 3: 09-09-2014
Day 4: 09-10-2014
Day 5: 09-11-2014
Day 6: 09-12-2014
Day 7: 09-13-2014
TUB 2:
Day 1: 09-07-2014 Spawn
DAy 2: 09-08-2014
Day 3: 09-09-2014
Day 4: 09-10-2014
Day 5: 09-11-2014
Day 6: 09-12-2014
Day 7: 09-13-2014
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: eatyualive]
#20544390 - 09/09/14 06:14 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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eatyualive
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: cronicr]
#20554143 - 09/11/14 05:41 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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updating spawn run results
Substrate Ratio Per Tub: 1:3 Ratio Spawn:substrate
- 5 Quarts spawn
- 15 Quarts Volume: 1 Brick Coir/ 2 Quarts Verm/ 1 cup
supercake/ 2 cups gypsum/ 1/2 cup used coffee
R44: P2G Spawn Used/ Fooman's Grain Tek/ 66 Quart Sterilites
TUB 1:
Day 1: 09-06-2014 Spawn
Day 2: 09-07-2014
Day 3: 09-08-2014
Day 4: 09-09-2014
Day 5: 09-10-2014
Day 6: 09-11-2014 Birth
Day 7: 09-12-2014
TUB 2:
Day 1: 09-08-2014 Spawn
Day 2: 09-09-2014
Day 3: 09-10-2014
Day 4: 09-11-2014
Day 5: 09-12-2014
Day 6: 09-13-2014
Day 7: 09-14-2014
Thai Lipa Yai: P2G Grain Spawn Used/ Fooman's Grain Tek/ 66 Quart Sterilite
TUB 1:
Day 1: 09-06-2014 Spawn
Day 2: 09-07-2014
Day 3: 09-08-2014
Day 4: 09-09-2014
Day 5: 09-10-2014
Day 6: 09-11-2014 Birth
Day 7: 09-12-2014
Tex Yellow Cap: G2G Grain Spawn Used/ Fooman's Grain Prep/ 77 Quart Iris Clearstack
TUB 1:
Day 1: 09-07-2014 Spawn
Day 2: 09-08-2014
Day 3: 09-09-2014
Day 4: 09-10-2014
Day 5: 09-11-2014 Birth
Day 6: 09-12-2014
Day 7: 09-13-2014
F+: Slurry Spawn Prep/ Fooman's Grain Tek with 10 minute steep a 20 minute soak, strained 2 times/ 77 Quart Iris Clearstack
TUB 1:
Day 1: 09-07-2014 Spawn
Day 2: 09-08-2014
Day 3: 09-09-2014
Day 4: 09-10-2014
Day 5: 09-11-2014 Birth
Day 6: 09-12-2014
Day 7: 09-13-2014
TUB 2:
Day 1: 09-08-2014 Spawn
DAy 2: 09-09-2014
Day 3: 09-10-2014
Day 4: 09-11-2014
Day 5: 09-12-2014
Day 6: 09-13-2014
Day 7: 09-14-2014
NOTES 9-11-14: The tex strain has colonized faster than all the other strains that were spawned even day prior. It is always the fastest strain there is hands down. The slurried grain jars also matched the tex with speed. I found that the F+ was the slowest colonizing pf jars out of all the strains tested. But with the slurry not only did it run the jars in 4 days it also ran the substrate very quickly at the speed of the tex strain. so even though it was showing as the slowest strain comparatively, it caught up with the slurry method of grain prep. i think this also helped it run the substrates quickly.
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: eatyualive]
#20554295 - 09/11/14 06:13 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Were those all MS?
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: 36fuckin5]
#20554323 - 09/11/14 06:18 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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oh oh.... i've got bad feeling about this.
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eatyualive
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: Mr. Alien]
#20554367 - 09/11/14 06:27 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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bad feeling about what? the slurry?
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eatyualive
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: 36fuckin5]
#20554370 - 09/11/14 06:28 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
36fuckin5 said: Were those all MS?
yes.
also the syringes were sitting in the fridge for 5 years. the tex was from a 5 year old print.
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: eatyualive]
#20554375 - 09/11/14 06:29 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: Fivel]
#20576403 - 09/16/14 06:12 PM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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here are some 7 year old burma clone with supercake in it. also some ape. i had to saw the burma sub in half from a contam. so this is half the substrate. its so old now im having trouble getting it to do much of anything consistently but it is still flushing out after that long.
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: eatyualive]
#20692734 - 10/12/14 01:16 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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great knowledge movie le me watching
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: syfqhnff]
#20746080 - 10/24/14 05:05 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey, great info. I tend to use Damion's Bucket Tek for the coir. I'm assuming that it wouldnt be enough to pasteurize the supercake ingredients. Is this correct? Is there a way around this that I could do so that I only oven pasteurized the supercake?
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eatyualive
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i really don't know ive never used nor know what Damiens tek is. i generally pasteurize it.
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: eatyualive]
#20746131 - 10/24/14 06:01 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damion5050, been a while and I forgot the proper lingo.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595
It definitely works, and is much less of a hassle. But the supercake seems like a worthy sacrifice.
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Fivel
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I wouldn't bucket tek supercake. Too many high nutrient additives.
BTW I have my first round of supercake tubs just put into fruiting yesterday. Want me to post pics? I'm excited about it. They colonized in a week.
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: Fivel]
#20750426 - 10/25/14 05:59 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, but I guess bucket tekking but afterwards mixing the pasteurized supercake might work. But maybe the bucket tek isnt thorough enough to make it safe for other materials. Experiment time I guess.
Could you describe your freezing process? Is everything mixed including water and coffee and gypsum? Do you just break off pieces and thaw them out?
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: Fivel]
#20751537 - 10/25/14 12:43 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
RideAllBears said: Damion5050, been a while and I forgot the proper lingo.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11916595
It definitely works, and is much less of a hassle. But the supercake seems like a worthy sacrifice.
yeah i would properly pasteurize it. but there was also this spawn additive called spawnmate back in the day. you would simply sprinkle it on your subs as you spawn it. that might be an option but i have not tried it. so it may not be successful. i might be willing to lose a tub for the sake of experiment. but its going to have to be middle of next year before that happens.
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Fivel said: I wouldn't bucket tek supercake. Too many high nutrient additives.
BTW I have my first round of supercake tubs just put into fruiting yesterday. Want me to post pics? I'm excited about it. They colonized in a week.
of course fivel please raid my threads. it doesn't bother me one bit.
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eatyualive
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Quote:
RideAllBears said: Yeah, but I guess bucket tekking but afterwards mixing the pasteurized supercake might work. But maybe the bucket tek isnt thorough enough to make it safe for other materials. Experiment time I guess.
Could you describe your freezing process? Is everything mixed including water and coffee and gypsum? Do you just break off pieces and thaw them out?
no only the dry mix is put in a gallon bag and then stored in the freezer. i don't use any of the lake water ect i only use the dry mix as a substrate additive. what it does is makes your flushes consistent through multiple flushes. it works like a slow delay release of nutrients to provide for bigger and consistent flushes.
i added the coffee and gypsum but i usually add that at the time im mixing the substrate. you don't even have to add that to your substrate if you don't want to. it isn't necessary but doesn't hurt. i don't store any gypsum or coffee with dry mix in the freezer bag full of supercake mix.
so the ingredients that are stored dry are used later when the subs are prepared. ill then get a measuring cup and scoop it out of my freezer bag.
you could store it in the pantry at room temps. i just put it in the freezer in case the storage is more long term. at the current speed of things, i went through an entire gallon bag in 2 months. trippy avatar!
Edited by eatyualive (10/25/14 12:49 PM)
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Re: Hipie3's Supercake Formula [Re: eatyualive]
#20751728 - 10/25/14 01:30 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Awesome thanks for all of that!
Can't wait to get back from my hiatus.
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