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eatyualive
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Re: CVG Experiment [Re: MudaFuka]
#20709389 - 10/16/14 05:26 AM (9 years, 6 months ago) |
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TLY is 4th.
F is 3rd.
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eatyualive
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F plus Tub 1
Day 40: 10-16-2014
TLY
Tub 2
Day 32: 10-15-2014 3rd flush
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eatyualive
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updated op with yields and streamlined it. still have a few tubs flushing will post updates as they happen. so far for multispore getting about 12z dry per tub in 3 flushes. whoever said multispore sucked? not the best results ive seen but decent for not really doing too much. the f plus tub did shit as hell. but damn its bulky in late flushes and making up for it. although its only 10 mushies but they are dense. but just slow to flush out.
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This thread is pretty epic man.
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Re: CVG Experiment [Re: Fivel]
#20730099 - 10/20/14 05:33 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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day 45 r44 tub 1 flush 4. nice little clump there. updated op with yields on a bunch of 3rd flushes.
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You've uploaded a shit ton of pics!
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How big are your tubs?
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So I noticed that you mentioned dunking between flushes. Do you recommend that in general? What are your thoughts on its benefits vs only dunking at birthing?
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Skyebug77 said: So I noticed that you mentioned dunking between flushes. Do you recommend that in general? What are your thoughts on its benefits vs only dunking at birthing?
These are bulk substrates which don't get dunked at birthing. You dunk in between flushes or some heavily mist.
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eatyualive said: tex strain.
and guess what happened when i tried to clone thai lipa yai. bad luck.
blended my jar when i lifted it, it broke and all the LI went all over me and everything.
you just lifted this up and it broke?
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eatyualive
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no when i placed the jar and blender assembly on the blender it exploded after about the 2nd burst of blending. luckily it only broke in two pieces. the water did go all over me.
Edited by eatyualive (10/21/14 05:19 AM)
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You know why? Did you do something wrong?
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One word, China.
I could be wrong but that is my guess.
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Edited by TheChief (10/21/14 10:32 AM)
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Re: CVG Experiment [Re: TheChief]
#20733076 - 10/21/14 11:14 AM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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TheChief said: One word, China.
I could be wrong but that is my guess.
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Re: CVG Experiment [Re: TheChief]
#20735249 - 10/21/14 07:38 PM (9 years, 5 months ago) |
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Skyebug77 said: So I noticed that you mentioned dunking between flushes. Do you recommend that in general? What are your thoughts on its benefits vs only dunking at birthing?
ive been dunking tubs since about 2004. i dunk after 1st flush every flush ive ever had since then. this is in the thousands and thousands of tubs alone. if you get 3 flushes on each tub. we are talking multi thousands. it works really well for keeping consistent flushes. it also speeds up your flush. helps clean the substrate. but if you don't submerge and you do a floating type method sometimes the dead pins or damaged material will end up causing contamination due to water logging. you can see molds and even bacteria where the fruitbodies may look healthy on the outside and explode with goo when you touch them.also smells of death or rotten eggs. whereas if you dunk and submerge as long as you drain properly the existing dead material will fuzz over. if you totally submerge the sub it seems not to cause as many contams on dead fruit material from the previous flush that ends up remaining or being missed. i will even see dead fruit fuzz over with mycelia. you can find closeups of this happening in the link below.i also clean my dead aborts/ stem tissue off the substrate as good as i can. opposed to cutting stem bases and leaving them. ive also cleaned substrates completely and let the entire bulk sub float in water for 4 hours. not even submerging or even putting water on the top of the substrate. it all works. it isn't suggested to dunk anything if there are contams present. ive also done surgery on substrates completely removing cake size pieces and dunked the rest of the sub to get up to 3 flushes after. so just because you have a small contam, doesn't mean your substrate is a goner. now, if its deep inside the bulk, and you try cutting away but all your seeing is contams. just chunk it. but if its a surface contam that isn't more than 1/4" deep. why not cut that out and dunk the rest of the sub? it will end up fuzzing up white again in a day or two. even if its the inside exposed susbstrate. the other day i did surgery and had an inner part of the sub exposed with grains and everything. it fuzzed over and actually fruited from those spots. that hadn't ever been exposed to open air until after 2nd or 3rd flush.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/11398896
thechief seems to be having some good results using 1 hour dunks. he also harvests by cutting stems. which i don't. i twist and pull and spray the substrate down with a sink sprayer which allows new pins and knots to develop after 2nd flush. generally the 2nd flush are existing primordia and using the pressure cleans the substrate of any mess like spores or dead pins. i think different methods call for different things. both which work well. but im going to attempt his 1 hour dunk on my subs next flush. if you harvest cutting stems id try his. if you twist and pull id try mine. i think the consistent thing about any way you dunk is that it gives you great flushes and consistently everytime.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/20710363/fpart/1
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TheChief said: One word, China.
I could be wrong but that is my guess.
this jar brand was kerr. dunno if they were made in china. could be. ive had these jars for several years but never had the issue. but this particular jar was unused. thats only about the 3rd time thats happened to me in a lifetime. but, it could have been worse and become an injury. i thank the shroom gods for that one.
here is that nice cluster in 4th flush. ive tossed out my TLY tub 2 after 3rd flush bc it had a contam. i did the scissor method on this one. and by 3rd flush the stems completely covered the substrate. there were a few spots that had primordia but not much going on. contams won that war.
got two r44 tubs on 4th flush now. both looking decent but i see small spot contams. i cut them out and removed and allowed the rest of the substrate to fruit. ill then chunk those out as well. i really like what im seeing with this r44 but the clone i have isn't showing the speed and vigor i want. i will take more samples on the next few grows coming up. the tex clone is coming soon. i have ape clone holding all my new grows up. its slow as shit. grain looks great but just slow. going to spawn those next and then off to the tex clone wars!
this is just my shitty test run with 5 year old genetics that need cleaning up. i wanted to see which cubes work well with my timing and which were most resilient. for 2 tubs not fruiting well but still coming out pulling 130 grams on a 3rd flush and 6 tubs doing half ass it still gave me almost 4lb dry yield over a few flushes. not the best. but shit, for a crap test and rusty blue thumbs not so bad. i really wanted to see if coir/verm alone would do well. it did good enough for ease. and i have a bunch of free coffee im running on about 8 tubs now just for shits and giggles. so far its looking great! all these grows were from some old vendor syringes that had been sitting in the fridge for over 5 years. no contams. no cleaning up just inject and grow. nothing fancy at all. clones being worked on now. trying to see the characteristics i really want to narrow down the search. r44, tly, tex all flush well. gt is looking to right now as well.
also, the f plus did shit but its so dense and massive of fruits i think if i work with it, it has some potential. im assuming it needs a casing for sure. was just too damn lazy to make one.
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I had two of my jars do that to me almost in the same place when sterilizing water with the blade attatchment for slurries. One time it happened as i pulled it out of the pc the second when i went to wipe the jar down after it cooled. I just lifted the jar but the bottom didn't lift up. Maybe i opened the pc or tightened the lids on while it was still too hot?
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eatyualive
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yes when the jar is still warm, and you have a different outside temp compared to the inside temp the glass can break easily. i usually allow my liquid inoculant jars to fully cool to room temperature but that time i was in a rush. so it could a have been glass plus temp fluctuation=glass breaks.
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eatyualive
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4th flushes on two r44 tubs. gonna toss em after that. cup on sub to contain spot contam.
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eatyualive said: 4th flushes on two r44 tubs. gonna toss em after that. cup on sub to contain spot contam.
what tam?
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