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Offlinedokunai
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DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools
    #20484268 - 08/27/14 01:47 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools

http://www.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2014/08/27/dare-is-not-cool-with-weed-decriminalization-in-la-schools



California DARE Coordinator Steve Abercrombie was not pleased to learn the news that the Los Angeles Unified School District had decriminalized small amounts of marijuana at its schools.

"Wow," he tells Toke of the Town. "It seems we keep giving in more and more to different crimes and criminal activity. When does it stop? When do you finally say that you need to follow the rules?"

The district announced more lenient policies in which school police will no longer report students — or issue them tickets — if they're involved in petty theft, most fights, or possession of alcohol, tobacco or marijuana.

The rule changes resulted from two years of talks between lawyers, judges, school police and civil rights groups who aimed to end LAUSD's zero-tolerance policies.

One goal is to reduce the influence of campus police, softening the rules so that kids who typically get into trouble don't drop out.

At issue, in part, is that black students make up about one-third of school police arrests, yet they make up less than 10 percent of the student population.

This, of course, is not exactly in line with the philosophy of the long-running Drug Abuse Resistance Education program.

Abercrombie says it makes more sense to train school police to stop targeting black students than it does to decriminalize weed in schools.

"If it's against the law, it's against the law," he says.

Despite this change, Los Angeles schools are not the most permissive when it comes to this issue. Abercrombie points to Berkeley schools, where most students found with pot are sent to counseling, rather than to the police.

Berkeley Unified School District's Mark Coplan notes that administrators there are concerned about teen marijuana use. But, he adds, Berkeley students have the lowest tobacco use rate in California; apparently parents there condemn cigarettes but look the other way on cannabis.

"I'm surprised they don't hand [cannabis] out when they hand out their workbooks," says Abercrombie, exasperated. "They're so out in space, it's unbelievable."

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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: dokunai] * 2
    #20484333 - 08/27/14 01:58 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Sure, let's just keep locking the kids up in cages for it and ruining their lives. That'll show the little bastards.

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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: dokunai] * 1
    #20484360 - 08/27/14 02:03 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Fuck DARE and the horse they rode in on.


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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: flower_child] * 2
    #20484593 - 08/27/14 03:00 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

When does it stop? - Looks like it just stopped. Just not in the way you wanted.

When do you finally say that you need to follow the rules?" - Looks like there's a new rule....

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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: wildernessjunkie] * 2
    #20484914 - 08/27/14 04:27 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

DARE is still a thing?


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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: DpRwav]
    #20485051 - 08/27/14 04:58 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

I honestly wore their shirt for a couple years after highschool at work, it was very comfortable and I don't like violence.

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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #20485102 - 08/27/14 05:12 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

I had to do a skit during DARE time where another kid offered me like every drug he could possibly name and I had to say no to all of them and give a reason.

I obviously learned many effective ways to deal with such a situation, as demonstrated in the dramatic reenactment of a day in the life of the most dejected drug dealer ever which my partner and I presented in front of the class.  Today though, I wouldn't use any of the ones I learned back then.  It would be more like "That's quite an impressive variety of stock you have there.  Where is the nearest ATM and can we go there together right now?"

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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: dokunai] * 1
    #20485673 - 08/27/14 07:29 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: Bugler Boy]
    #20486083 - 08/27/14 08:50 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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Probably the greatest thing ever :lmafo:


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One day we'll look back on these times and wonder how people could have been so discriminatory against pot smokers during the prohibition era.  This is a fight for the right to explore altered consciousness at will for both spiritual and recreational purposes.

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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: dokunai]
    #20486124 - 08/27/14 08:59 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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dokunai said:
"If it's against the law, it's against the law," he says.





All I have to say to anyone who makes this statement:

It was once illegal for a "negro" to escape captivity (slavery) in the south.  Would you be one of the ones rounding them up for it?


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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: MacMerdin]
    #20486260 - 08/27/14 09:30 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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MacMerdin said:
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dokunai said:
"If it's against the law, it's against the law," he says.





All I have to say to anyone who makes this statement:

It was once illegal for a "negro" to escape captivity (slavery) in the south.  Would you be one of the ones rounding them up for it?




Of course he would.
If it's against the law, it's a against the law.
What? Did you think that the laws change with the times?  That's preposterous.


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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: dokunai]
    #20486489 - 08/27/14 10:41 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

it is only considered a criminal activity because that is what our lovely people in the government decided to categorize it as.


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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: zZZz]
    #20486732 - 08/27/14 11:36 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Not reporting theftand violence?(granted petty theft)  Thieves are the lowest scum of the earth. I have more sympathy for criminals of a sexual nature than i do thieves. Fighting's not nearly as bad as theft in my book,but should still be reported. I also hate how they lumped all these things in one act. This is why people think weed goes hand in hand with every crime.:facepalm:

Man kids in ten years won't ever realize how good the have it if these drug laws keep softening up(as they should) but i still say lock up the thieves/fighters.


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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: LuSiD enthusiast] * 1
    #20486858 - 08/28/14 12:08 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

too many sports and politicians for that to happen

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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: Konyap] * 1
    #20487993 - 08/28/14 08:30 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Nothing like getting first hand knowledge of the Drug War by getting arrested by a "school cop" at your own school. Did they ever maybe consider that kind of thing is unproductive, humiliates the student, harms their education and future, and fosters in them a distrust for authority at a very young age?

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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #20488303 - 08/28/14 09:58 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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LuSiD enthusiast said:
Not reporting theftand violence?(granted petty theft)  Thieves are the lowest scum of the earth. I have more sympathy for criminals of a sexual nature than i do thieves. Fighting's not nearly as bad as theft in my book,but should still be reported. I also hate how they lumped all these things in one act. This is why people think weed goes hand in hand with every crime.:facepalm:

Man kids in ten years won't ever realize how good the have it if these drug laws keep softening up(as they should) but i still say lock up the thieves/fighters.




Man, rape is way worse than theft.
Sexual crimes violate a persons body.
Theft just fucks with their possessions.
Sexual crimes are way worse.

And I don't think they "lumped all these things in one act", the just eased up on those situations to "reduce the influence of campus police, softening the rules so that kids who typically get into trouble don't drop out".
DARE is just mad because cannabis is half of their curriculum.


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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #20489225 - 08/28/14 02:11 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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LuSiD enthusiast said:
Not reporting theftand violence?(granted petty theft)  Thieves are the lowest scum of the earth. I have more sympathy for criminals of a sexual nature than i do thieves. Fighting's not nearly as bad as theft in my book,but should still be reported. I also hate how they lumped all these things in one act. This is why people think weed goes hand in hand with every crime.:facepalm:

Man kids in ten years won't ever realize how good the have it if these drug laws keep softening up(as they should) but i still say lock up the thieves/fighters.





That is a pretty reprehensible statement.  How can you possibly believe petty theft is worse than rape?

I hate thieves as well, but these are kids.  Multiple studies have shown that teenager's brains are not fully capable of understanding the consequences of their actions.  With all the raging hormones and still developing brain they often act on impulse.  For petty theft, fighting that doesn't result in significant or permanent bodily injury, and drug possession, I think they are making the right move to decriminalize this.


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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: HagbardCeline]
    #20489565 - 08/28/14 03:24 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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HagbardCeline said:
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LuSiD enthusiast said:
Not reporting theftand violence?(granted petty theft)  Thieves are the lowest scum of the earth. I have more sympathy for criminals of a sexual nature than i do thieves. Fighting's not nearly as bad as theft in my book,but should still be reported. I also hate how they lumped all these things in one act. This is why people think weed goes hand in hand with every crime.:facepalm:

Man kids in ten years won't ever realize how good the have it if these drug laws keep softening up(as they should) but i still say lock up the thieves/fighters.





That is a pretty reprehensible statement.  How can you possibly believe petty theft is worse than rape?

I hate thieves as well, but these are kids.  Multiple studies have shown that teenager's brains are not fully capable of understanding the consequences of their actions.  With all the raging hormones and still developing brain they often act on impulse.  For petty theft, fighting that doesn't result in significant or permanent bodily injury, and drug possession, I think they are making the right move to decriminalize this.




"studies have shown that teenager's brains are not fully capable of understanding the consequences of their actions"

Not true, that are just not as capable as someone in their twenties, it doesn't mean they don't understand "the consequences of their actions".

Children by the ago of 5 understand that there are consequences to their actions, they understand the concept of right or wrong, it's not that complicated.

L.A. Schools no longer have any expectations for the behavior of their students, theft and violence are now acceptable actions, disgraceful.

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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: qman]
    #20489669 - 08/28/14 03:46 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

HagbardCeline said:
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LuSiD enthusiast said:
Not reporting theftand violence?(granted petty theft)  Thieves are the lowest scum of the earth. I have more sympathy for criminals of a sexual nature than i do thieves. Fighting's not nearly as bad as theft in my book,but should still be reported. I also hate how they lumped all these things in one act. This is why people think weed goes hand in hand with every crime.:facepalm:

Man kids in ten years won't ever realize how good the have it if these drug laws keep softening up(as they should) but i still say lock up the thieves/fighters.





That is a pretty reprehensible statement.  How can you possibly believe petty theft is worse than rape?

I hate thieves as well, but these are kids.  Multiple studies have shown that teenager's brains are not fully capable of understanding the consequences of their actions.  With all the raging hormones and still developing brain they often act on impulse.  For petty theft, fighting that doesn't result in significant or permanent bodily injury, and drug possession, I think they are making the right move to decriminalize this.




"studies have shown that teenager's brains are not fully capable of understanding the consequences of their actions"

Not true, that are just not as capable as someone in their twenties, it doesn't mean they don't understand "the consequences of their actions".

Children by the ago of 5 understand that there are consequences to their actions, they understand the concept of right or wrong, it's not that complicated.

L.A. Schools no longer have any expectations for the behavior of their students, , disgraceful.





Reading comprehension?  I said "...that teenager's brains are not fully capable of understanding the consequences of their actions."  I would love to hear why you think saying "not as capable" is a more fitting description.

Apparently you failed to grasp the intent with the new policy and reached conclusions which were never expressed by LASD officials.  According to the article, they simply decriminalized these things.  No where did they say that nothing would be done to those committing transgressions, just that they would no longer be formally charged with crimes for it.  It does mention ending zero-tolerance policies, which are for the most part idiotic and should never have been instituted in the first place. 
Theft and violence are not acceptable actions and they never said they were.


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Re: DARE Is Not Cool With Weed Decriminalization in L.A. Schools [Re: chopstick]
    #20489740 - 08/28/14 04:07 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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chopstick said:
Nothing like getting first hand knowledge of the Drug War by getting arrested by a "school cop" at your own school. Did they ever maybe consider that kind of thing is unproductive, humiliates the student, harms their education and future, and fosters in them a distrust for authority at a very young age?



you can thank nixon and his old moonshine mafia pals for the current policies, dea, and demonizing hippies. starting with anslinger's campaign against marijuana with reefer madness and all that during prohibition.


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