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    #19893114 - 04/24/14 01:23 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

yo guys.
so i have used straw about 5-6 times now, all with oysters.  RR prep method.  i stopped using it b/c it takes a while to cut (i live in city, and have to cut it with scissors, take a long time for even one small log) and i got pellets for oysters instead (which i don't even like for oysters, but the prep is simple).  i still had a large tote of wheat straw, and decided to try it again, this time with cubes.  i cut up a bunch, and now have it soaking with 3/4 cup of chx manure and a tablespoon of hydrated lime.



it is testing btw 6-7 oh Ph strips right now.  usually i'd bring it up to 8 for oysters, sometimes higher if it was an accident, but the oysters never minded (blue oysters).

1. is that Ph gonna be ok for cubes?
2. i know u can use a pretty low spawn ratio with straw, i have even read 1:10 is ok.  to me, that seems high for cubes, so i was thinking 1:4, at least my first time using straw with cubes. so should i even try to mix it up, or just layer?  i will only be using 1 qt of spawn for this (will be a tray, cased with 50/50+, then put into GH)
3.do i use a liner with straw, or will it just tear?
4.i wanted to pasteurize tonight, at the 24 hour soak mark, but something came up, and i can't.  should i change the water for next 24 hours, or just keep it in same water.  ETA for pasteurization will be 48 hours into the chx manure/lime soak.

thanks!

edit:i did not use soap this time to soak the straw, just in case that matters.  i know with soap, u can get away with a reduced soak time, but i knew i couldn't get to it right away, so i omitted it.


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Re: straw [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19893142 - 04/24/14 01:29 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:popcorn:

You dont mind if  sit in on this one?

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Re: straw [Re: Edmunter]
    #19893161 - 04/24/14 01:33 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

nope!!
i have seen so many threads in the last month where ppl said they were gonna try plain straw, but then never same thru (unless i missed it).  i was waiting to see their results before trying it on cubes, but then i got impatient.  i have seen some monsters grown on straw, which is the real draw to me.  I've also seen a lot of fails tho in the archives, especially when they don't case the straw.


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Re: straw [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19893170 - 04/24/14 01:35 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Cool, Im going to watch and then follow if you dont fuk it up :dumblol:

No pressure

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Re: straw [Re: Edmunter]
    #19893193 - 04/24/14 01:39 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:rofl:

if it works well, i might continue cubes in the summer.  i was planning on stopping, and just doing some edibles b/c the heat, but if the straw breathes really well, it just might work for summer cubes (i had problems last summer with heat and stalling).  i only have one window unit AC, and don't like to run it 24/7.


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Re: straw [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19893211 - 04/24/14 01:43 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I have a bag of straw ive been meaning to use and now youve motivated me.

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Re: straw [Re: Edmunter]
    #19893237 - 04/24/14 01:46 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

:rockon:  i really wanna mix with coir for more dense sub, but for the sake of the experiment, i will not.


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Re: straw [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19893486 - 04/24/14 02:38 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

I use hydrated lime in pasteurization baths at a rate of 1/2 cup for ten gallons of hot water. This gives the bath a ph of 9-11,
1:4 kicks ass
so do liners
i also find it to do better w/o a casing layer in trays and a min depth of 3.5 inches
hope this helps


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Re: straw [Re: cronicr]
    #19893535 - 04/24/14 02:49 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

cool, ill def do 1:4, and use a liner then.  i have to case tho, ill regret it like i always do if i don't case.  my gh just gets a ton of FAE from a 24/7 CM on bottom, so if i don't case, i think it might dry out.
i know oysters can overcome high ph, but i thought cubes might have a little more trouble. maybe not tho :shrug:


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Re: straw [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19893597 - 04/24/14 02:59 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

edit: you should be ok at those temps, i cant find rr's tek in my journal but thats what i was following:cool:


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Re: straw [Re: cronicr]
    #19893674 - 04/24/14 03:13 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

word.  yea i did his straw prep for all my oysters, this is the first time I'm using chx manure with straw.  i used it as a supplement with coir before and liked it, but at a really low ratio.  I'm hoping to just make straw soup with it, and not get a lot of actually solid shit in the tray, just straw soaked with chx poo tea.

this is the RR straw log tek, but on mycotopia, i can't find it on shroomery, but i know its here

I'm doing basically the same thing, but no dish soap this time, and adding chx manure, and not bringing the ph up as high as i have before


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