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This might turn into a grow log later..
    #19882087 - 04/22/14 08:16 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I've planned on growing mushrooms for a while now, done some research,(mostly on shroomery) and I've got most of what I need. Moving out in a weeks time so maybe 2 weeks from 4/22 Ill update. I've found 3 teks, some might be more aptly called instructions as they aren't "teks" per say but seem to me to be quite useful info.

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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5238137/fpart/1 - LC
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/2251265 - popcorn tek
http://www.shroomery.org/10677/Monotub - monotub

So long story short I work in a factory and have a damn near unlimited supply of popcorn, as well as bags I plan on sealing for spawn bags. My plan is to do the links in order but LC innoc into spawn bags instead of jars. After my substrate reaches 80% Im going to break it up while its inside the bag and put it into a 5gal bucket to form it into a disc, and birth it directly into a monotub once it solidifies and reaches 100% for a few days.

Now my question is on spawn bags and literally any info would help here. Im somewhat confused as to the thickness of the plastic, I have access 1 mil and 2 mil bags of varying sizes, will this stand up to the heat of a PC? Do I seal my bags of popcorn (after soaking and PCing) and PC them, or do I do the micropore tape and then PC (Im thinking the bags would implode and tear or something without a "vent" provided by the tape to equalize pressure, also afraid the tape wouldn't stick with the steam inside the PC?)? I have access to tyvek and can easily obtain at no cost FYI.


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Altlifestyle]
    #19882138 - 04/22/14 08:38 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

There are a few things wrong here. I'll start with the first.

Agar is 1000* better than LC, find a good agar tek to replace the LC tek.


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Altlifestyle]
    #19882154 - 04/22/14 08:45 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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After my substrate reaches 80% Im going to break it up while its inside the bag and put it into a 5gal bucket to form it into a disc, and birth it directly into a monotub once it solidifies and reaches 100% for a few days.



Sounds like a horrible idea. Break it up at 80%, but keep it in the bags until it's fully colonized.

I think you have some more research to do.


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Dep.Dir.Bullock]
    #19882180 - 04/22/14 08:57 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

thats what I said :/ and I can cover more surface area with Lc rather than agar as long as I dont leave too much excess moisture.


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Altlifestyle]
    #19882213 - 04/22/14 09:08 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

The way you've written it makes its sound like you are taking it from sterile to non sterile at 80%.  But im guessing you are not.

Not being funny mate but you should try to pick TEKs that are a little bit newer.

The popcorn tek is 10 years old.

The reason I suggest this is because this is a forum that is progressive and together we are trying to improve theories and techniques from yesterdays grows let alone 10 years ago.

It looks ok but there must be something newer and better out there.

Take a read of what this guy does, he's the god around here if you ask me.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897163#17897163

Best of luck

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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Edmunter]
    #19882288 - 04/22/14 09:36 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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The reason I suggest this is because this is a forum that is progressive and together we are trying to improve theories and techniques from yesterdays grows let alone 10 years ago.




well put.


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19882341 - 04/22/14 09:53 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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The reason I suggest this is because this is a forum that is progressive and together we are trying to improve theories and techniques from yesterdays grows let alone 10 years ago.




well put.




Do I remember you using corn in one of your grows Blindingleaf?

Looking at the Corn tek here I dont see much wrong though.  White wine vineger?

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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Edmunter]
    #19882365 - 04/22/14 10:01 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

no mudafucka uses it and does really awesome grows with it.  i have cracked corn in the WBS i use, but i don't use WBS often


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19882386 - 04/22/14 10:09 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I would start your research over from scratch and start with the first link in my signature.

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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Edmunter]
    #19882460 - 04/22/14 10:29 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

That's also the tek I use to prepare my corn, it works fine. :thumbup: Corn is pretty hard to mess up, as long as you let it dry up enough.


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Quexl]
    #19886679 - 04/23/14 07:02 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Thanks for The input, I think Ill G2G innoc, bodhisatta I like the bulk bricks in your sig. Im not trying to grow the best/most muchrooms first try. I like trial and error, figuring what works best for me. i can be a SAB set up easy as cake


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Altlifestyle]
    #19886700 - 04/23/14 07:15 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Im not trying to grow the best cubes, just get my feet wet. I expect a few failures. What im trying to do is run the biggest monotub I can or multiple tubs at once. I've got no cable or internet, chainmaille was my last hobby I got into, Im gonna try something different.  a cost effective hobby that i can burnnsome time on is a thing I enjoy


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Altlifestyle]
    #19886705 - 04/23/14 07:19 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

this hobby is awesome man.  get into edibles/medicinals ASAP also.  u will no longer "burn" time, u will need more of it.


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19886767 - 04/23/14 07:52 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Im gonna try to go from jars to monotub, as I have an extra room. set up a tent for a SAB. fruiting directly on popcorn. I can supply everything for nothing. Im aware its not the ideal way, however for $0 Ill have a few babies. I have an excess 0f spawn bags if anyone is willing to trade for a spore print.


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Altlifestyle]
    #19887077 - 04/23/14 09:47 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Im gonna try to go from jars to monotub, as I have an extra room. set up a tent for a SAB. fruiting directly on popcorn. I can supply everything for nothing. Im aware its not the ideal way, however for $0 Ill have a few babies. I have an excess 0f spawn bags if anyone is willing to trade for a spore print.




Do you mean go from trays to monotubs?

Also are you not going to mix the popcorn with a substrate ie coir or hpoo?  Cause if u have horses near by you can get that for free too.

In my opinion, Cased grain is better than straight grain and bulk is better than cased grain.  What I mean by this is that I have gotten much bigger fruits and yields from each respective method.

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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Edmunter]
    #19896700 - 04/25/14 02:42 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

yeah, trays to tubs, my bad. Yeah id love to do some hpoo and coir or mix up a substrate, but as of right now im just gonna do straight grain, I might case with verm in my monotub. honestly im pretty pumped. ill be damn ecstatic even if i only get like 2 fruits lol. and when i do decide to do all the little things thatll make fruit like mad i can look back at my straight grain monotub and how far I've come. maybe a write up of how stuff turned out, yknow with a bunch of pretty pictures and such :tongue:


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Altlifestyle]
    #19896724 - 04/25/14 02:54 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Id mix it with coir  as you will get better yield for just a tiny bit more work but hey half arsed is fun too..

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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Edmunter]
    #19896782 - 04/25/14 03:49 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: Altlifestyle]
    #19896873 - 04/25/14 05:08 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

mix ur grain with moist verm, then case it.  the moist verm will add water for better yield.


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Re: This might turn into a grow log later.. [Re: blindingleaf]
    #19896883 - 04/25/14 05:14 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

thanks for the tips and helpful links (:


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