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 Magash
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 A little test on jars colonizing. 
#1981992 - 10/05/03 06:18 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Ok, Out of 90 jars 45 were shot up and the tape left on the jar. (jar on left)
45 had the tape left off. (jar on the right)
Everyone of the jars done with the tape off beat everyone of the jars with the tape on. These are two week old jars. Strain is South Americans.
I use to shoot up the jars and leave the tape on till the seconed week. Not any more.
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 Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#1982090 - 10/05/03 07:03 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Bacha wants!
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 ummikko
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#1982247 - 10/05/03 08:07 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you have room to birth 90 cakes, or is this just a test?
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: ummikko]
#1982257 - 10/05/03 08:11 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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magash probably has room to birth 9000 cakes. 
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Hanky]
#1982301 - 10/05/03 08:29 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Magash
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: ummikko]
#1982339 - 10/05/03 08:41 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yeah, I have the room but I?m probably gonna give the jars away when they fully colonize. I have a few friends that would get a kick out of growing them. Since the hard part is done them I think they will like the new hobby.
I?d use them for spawn but I have enough shrooms for some time so the pod is gonna become a cutting and seedling starter so I can bring in some new strains to breed into my current ones.
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
#1982488 - 10/05/03 09:41 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Oh man, I guess I'm gonna take the tape off of my friends jars tonight.
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: etard]
#1982579 - 10/05/03 10:18 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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why not use cloth tape?
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: GregHimself]
#1982646 - 10/05/03 10:38 PM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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the dry verm layer is ample for keeping contams out,so why use any tape whatsoever?
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Hanky]
#1983454 - 10/06/03 09:27 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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batfly doesn't use tape
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: BatFly]
#1983749 - 10/06/03 11:52 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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No tape! Just leave the foil on and the lids loose.
$.02
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: LiL_KuSsH]
#1999139 - 10/11/03 12:46 AM (20 years, 6 months ago) |
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Magash if u were a girl I would...
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Magash
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#2537676 - 04/07/04 11:52 PM (20 years, 13 days ago) |
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Memories, another shamless bump.
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#2538144 - 04/08/04 03:29 AM (20 years, 12 days ago) |
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thats why i use coffee filters on the lids.
allows air in and contams out. just to be safe, i even microwaved the coffee filters for about 15 seconds, to kill anything that might be on em.
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: mycoguy]
#2776556 - 06/08/04 11:48 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you put a dry layer of vermiculite on your jars, Magash? I thought it was just jar and substrate.
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Magash
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Nazrula]
#2776571 - 06/08/04 11:53 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Naw, with pf jars I always put the dry verm layer
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#2778144 - 06/09/04 02:13 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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magash, do you fruit the cakes? or just use the jars to spawn to others? ive seen your pics of casigns which are very nice, but do you do cakes at all? also is that your own MJ growing? that looks tasty as well
either way you are a god and keep up the great work and support to this site 
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Magash
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: berto23]
#2778160 - 06/09/04 02:19 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Naw, when I do brf cakes I just fruit them. Use grains for the casings.
  
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#2778168 - 06/09/04 02:24 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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im crying... words cannot describe how i feel looking at that plate. That looks like AT LEAST half pound i mean HOLY FUCK! costs me fuckin 300 an ounce of shitty butt smoking here in NJ and you make your own half pound for like 100 bucks to grow it.... cant wait till i can start that up.
thats my future hobby
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Magash
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: berto23]
#2778296 - 06/09/04 03:11 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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100 bucks, thats silly. Doesn't cost anywhere near that  
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#2778326 - 06/09/04 03:22 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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k, now i simply hate you from envy lol
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Stonerguy
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: berto23]
#2778427 - 06/09/04 03:56 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Actually on your first few grows you woulnd necesarily gain money b/c of the equipment like lights, soil/hydro solution, ferts, and etc.
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Stonerguy]
#2779078 - 06/09/04 07:36 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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magash is a veteran.... i doubt thats under his 10th harvest of the whacky weed (considering a harvest is every quarter year for ganja.. unless he has plants on a cycle but what ever....)
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Magash
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: berto23]
#2779195 - 06/09/04 08:11 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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he he he........well the systems I take pics of put out a harvest every two weeks. (since 1987)
  
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#2779512 - 06/09/04 09:30 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Magash is there a link to learn how to grow that killer looking weed.
I know how to get 3 harvest a yr. Been told it is possible to get 7 but ever two weeks.
Please share the know how.
Thanks
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Gr0wer
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: KaptKid]
#2779546 - 06/09/04 09:43 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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overgrow.com if you do something called prepetual harvest you can get as many harvests as you want. once a day once a week or more commonly done twice a month.
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Gr0wer]
#2779557 - 06/09/04 09:46 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Thanks GrOwer
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Magash
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: KaptKid]
#2779571 - 06/09/04 09:51 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Look up SOG.
Check it out
Now to keep this mushroom related
Keep the needle clean
I't simple: Find a sponge that is very resilent while wet...A dish sponge wont work...Use a car washing sponge or better yet a cosmetic sponge...All you do is cut a sponge slightly longer than the needle and about 1" thick (it will be a long rectangle ). Wet the sponge with alcohol...squeeze out excess alcohol...then slide the sponge over the needle....Now when you inject and remove the needle from a jar the sponge bounces back to keep the needle covered and moist with alcohol...Just to make sure I always squeeze and twist the sponge on the needle to make sure it is wet before each injection.
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#2779756 - 06/09/04 11:12 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Magash,
Does that technique risk getting alcohol into your jars? Will that hurt your substrate/spores at all if wet alcohol gets in there?
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Magash
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: mmmbeefy]
#2779823 - 06/09/04 11:49 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Naw, just like wiping down the usual way.
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#2781538 - 06/10/04 12:39 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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geez bro,
Nice idea!
tell me you leave tape off and just leave the little needle hole exposed?
and do you mean the softer sponges
Nex
Wish to be Magash when i grow up!
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Nexxiss]
#2781637 - 06/10/04 12:59 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Magash, is that your sterilizing trick that I've read about? Read a post about you having a particular way of sterilizing the needles. Just curious if that's it.
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Magash
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Nexxiss]
#2781773 - 06/10/04 01:24 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, the soft ones. Some sponges have what looks like thousands of different size holes. You want the ones like for cleaning your car. They have millions of little holes that all look about the same size
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#2781938 - 06/10/04 01:50 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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not jinxin' you magash
but I'm surprised the "jakes" didnt ram your door down yet!!!
you have alot contra-band mang!!!which i know ='s alot of so called friends!--& enemies!
how do you stay on the down low??? i know you aint eatin' & smokin' all that yourself----are you???
its demonz little set-up and hes noided as a muthafucker!
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Magash
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: MeNtALDeMoNZ]
#2782012 - 06/10/04 02:03 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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He he he.....I'm not crazy, I stopped growing large some time ago. I just hang around now and try and make it easy for others to grow too. We all have a right to grow and use what we want.
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 Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#2782172 - 06/10/04 02:33 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Magash said:
We all have a right to grow and use what we want.
Indeed. But the government doesn't think so. They just want your money...
Sorry, off topic...
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Magash
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: ATWAR]
#2782203 - 06/10/04 02:39 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Very true, and remember they can do what they want. Warrents are meaningless pieces of garbage in the land of "pot growers are terrorist"
Now back on track
The 3 most important aspects of grain preparation are to achieve an uniform, correct water content, to kill all contaminants and to get a shakeable substrate.
There are 2 main approaches to grain preparation:
Method 1.) Rinse the grain several times under flowing water and simmer it until the grains are soaked and begin to explode. With rye the simmer time is around 45 minutes, with millet or millet based birdseed around 30 minutes(but it strongly depends on the individual brand)
Then strain the cooked grain for 20 minutes, fill in jars, screw on a lid fitted with a filter and pressure cook for 1 hour.
Method 2.) Fill the jars directly with the proper amounts of grain and water and pressure cook for 1 hour. If one experiences bacterial contamination problems the grain can be left to soak up to 24 hours before pressure cooking to allow bacterial endospores to germinate.
Basic rye recipe for 1 pint jar:
- 100g(3.5 oz ~ 125 ml) rye
- 110g(3.9 oz =110 ml) water
- knife tip full of gypsum
Basic millet or birdseed recipe for 1 pint jar:
- 100g(3.5 oz ~ 140 ml) birdseed
- 80g(2.8 oz = 80 ml) water
- knife tip full of gypsum
If you are going to prepare rye for producing spawn, you might use a tad less water( I use 105g in that case)
Fill into the jar, screw the lid fitted with a polyfill filter or a filter disc on the jar and pressure cook for 1 hour.
Immediately after the pressure has settled, using protective oven mitts or a towel, take the still burning hot jars from the cooker and shake them well to mix the more wet and drier kernels.
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#2782288 - 06/10/04 03:05 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yes, back on track...
I was never impressed with either of those methods for producing adequate rye spawn. So that leads me to post Method 3:
Soak rye for 24-36 hours. Drain, load into jars, then PC for 1hr.
Method 1 worked well for popcorn, which was the method I preferred. Method 1 with rye I was never able to master. Exploded kernals is not a good thing, especially with rye (on the contrary, split popcorn kernals is a good thing for colonization speed). Water content is hard to monitor this way without exploding kernals. Method 2 worked, but always left half the kernals dry, and half over-hydrated. Even when I PC'd for 15 min, cooled then opened the PC and shook them up then re-PC'd, they would still come out unsatisfactory.
Find a method that works well for you. To each his own.
Method 3 produces consistant results for me...
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Re: A little test on jars colonizing. [Re: Magash]
#2782594 - 06/10/04 04:46 PM (19 years, 10 months ago) |
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magash is spot on. They will do what they want. They know a lot more than most think. They need to pick their battles though, if they get too greedy then public would scream for de-prohibition
we wouldn't want weed legalized would we? Why take away a valuable item that people (dealers, criminals) can make money off of?
The only reason the government can associate drugs with REAL CRIMINALS is because law criminilizes the drugs thmesleves.
CRIMINALS DONT MAKE DRUGS CRIMINAL. LAW DOES.
it will be a sweet day in the history of mankind when everyone recognizes that.
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