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Edmunter
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Edmunters everything woodlovers -outdoor woodlover TEK- All you need to start your own patch 1
#19719628 - 03/19/14 04:33 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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Edited by Edmunter (03/15/20 01:16 PM)
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood TEK [Re: Edmunter]
#19719669 - 03/19/14 04:40 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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I am inoculating 4 jars of grains. I only have 5cl in a syringe of psilocybe cyanescens and need to make it stretch. I think you can miss this stage and go st8 for inoculating woodchip/sawdust bags(RR has a great tek on this in his videos) but I am confident i can do the job with grain so am sticking to this.
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood TEK [Re: Edmunter]
#19719691 - 03/19/14 04:43 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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5cl would knock up 200+ grain jars. 5ml would knock up 20+
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood TEK [Re: Edmunter]
#19719738 - 03/19/14 04:52 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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Please amend your thread title. Don't use the word TEK until you have a proved method. What you should be saying is outdoor wood experiment, or outdoor wood project. RR
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood TEK [Re: bodhisatta]
#19719750 - 03/19/14 04:53 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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Quote:
bodhisatta said: 5cl would knock up 200+ grain jars. 5ml would knock up 20+
Ha ha very good point. I blame it on the fact I had a general anaesthetic today and it fried my brain
Lets have another go......
I am inoculating 4 jars of grains. I only have 5ml in a syringe of psilocybe cyanescens and need to make it stretch. I think you can miss this stage and go st8 for inoculating woodchip/sawdust bags(RR has a great tek on this in his videos) but I am confident I can do the job with grain so am sticking to this.
So I could put 1/4 Ml in each jar? but im going to use 1 ml and use 1ml to make a liquid culture before I go to Agar
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood TEK [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19719756 - 03/19/14 04:54 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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RogerRabbit said: Please amend your thread title. Don't use the word TEK until you have a proved method. What you should be saying is outdoor wood experiment. RR
Done!
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: Edmunter]
#19719770 - 03/19/14 04:56 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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-------------------- Download Let's Grow Mushrooms semper in excretia sumus solim profundum variat "I've never had a failed experiment. I've only discovered 10,000 methods which do not work." Thomas Edison
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: RogerRabbit]
#19719902 - 03/19/14 05:15 PM (10 years, 11 days ago) |
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you could put like two drops in each jar and be fine, but I would personally just use a 1/4ml.
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: bodhisatta]
#19746638 - 03/25/14 06:46 PM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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If i were to spawn a fully colonised wheat bran supplemented sawdust bag to chips in a tub indoors (and when i mean spawn indoors i mean to maximize my spawn not to fruit) would i need to pastuerize the chips or could i sterilize? and when spawning the sawdust do i brake it up as fine as i can and mix thoroughly with woodchips in a bin/tub/tote and let colonise and keep adding new chips once that colonises? and how thick of a layer when adding chips?
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: tombosley8]
#19748784 - 03/26/14 04:14 AM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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I have been advised to pasteurise when working indoors. and I am going to mix as evenly as I can when bulking up my spawn.
How far are you on in the process?
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: Edmunter]
#19748807 - 03/26/14 04:39 AM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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Just thinking it out through and through and waiting on the damn mail for some spores. Though I know i'm late i'm going full throttle as soon as i have em. Worth a try for this year and definitely will help for next year. I swear i saw if you use only an inch to two layer of chips on top of your already colonized spawn that it will get colonised before it can contam as long as it's pasteurized OR sterilized though i can't find the info directly. Maybe i was dreaming
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: tombosley8]
#19748811 - 03/26/14 04:41 AM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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Ok, please dig that info out. I find pasteurisation really easy these days thanks to Frank......
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/17897163#17897163
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: tombosley8]
#19748821 - 03/26/14 04:51 AM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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Ya that is how to do it but it's a lot more work than sterilizing (and time) Just trying to cut it down as much as possible but i'll keep digging til i find somethin good
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: tombosley8]
#19748834 - 03/26/14 05:08 AM (10 years, 5 days ago) |
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I find if you get you sub to field capacity with water that puts the core temp up to 90F then all you have to do is again raise that core temp 6-8f befor cutting heat and it goes into the 140-160 range for an hour.
I had a mind block about it for a while but now im totally confident.
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: Edmunter]
#19866339 - 04/18/14 04:18 PM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Jars 80% colonised. Thoughts turning towards pasteurising woodchips. As always a spanner was thrown in the works and somebody said it wasn't necessary.
Please discuss.
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: bodhisatta]
#19868884 - 04/19/14 01:05 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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so Quote:
bodhisatta said: you could put like two drops in each jar and be fine, but I would personally just use a 1/4ml.
is 1/4ml really enough? even for cubes? i guess i've been overdoing it a bit if so.
edmunter, i think you should try to expand your grain through g2g, you could really maximize your spawn then inoculate chips. Jars only take a week and a half and you could 10x the amount
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: tombosley8]
#19869704 - 04/19/14 08:36 AM (9 years, 11 months ago) |
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Quote:
tombosley8 said: so Quote:
bodhisatta said: you could put like two drops in each jar and be fine, but I would personally just use a 1/4ml.
is 1/4ml really enough? even for cubes? i guess i've been overdoing it a bit if so.
edmunter, i think you should try to expand your grain through g2g, you could really maximize your spawn then inoculate chips. Jars only take a week and a half and you could 10x the amount
it's more than enough use somewhere between a few drops and 0.25ml.
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: bodhisatta]
#19987065 - 05/14/14 01:16 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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So Ive finished pasterising my 4 kg wood chip verm mix and ive gone to look at my jars and they all have metabolites. Any clues to why this is? I still have to be careful at this stage to not get contams?
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: Edmunter]
#19987069 - 05/14/14 01:17 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Edmunters outdoor wood lover experiment [Re: Edmunter]
#19987093 - 05/14/14 01:22 PM (9 years, 10 months ago) |
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yewp those are metabs, at least its for an outdoor projecti don't see any visible signs of bacteria though, myabe they got too warm?
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