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Re: Thank you shroomery! -Pics- [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19798601 - 04/05/14 09:43 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Better safe than sorry. In my experience its easier to contam brf when spawning to bulk. May just be my luck, plus i was using horse manure not straight verm, so i guess sterility isn't necessarily necessary in this situation. :mushroom2::mushroom2:

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Re: Thank you shroomery! -Pics- [Re: Myco_wizard]
    #19798617 - 04/05/14 09:51 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

it's not with poo either you just have to properly pasteurize.

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    #19798777 - 04/05/14 10:43 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah, your right :rockon:

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Re: Thank you shroomery! -Pics- [Re: VYBE]
    #19798782 - 04/05/14 10:46 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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What might really blow you alls mind is this last one is just Verm below and in top of the finely crumbled cake. No coir or gypsum! And the results were damn near the same!




How do you prepare the verm?  water to verm ration, do you sterilize?  I have 4 brf jars about 95% colonized and want to try this out...

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Re: Thank you shroomery! -Pics- [Re: Testertips]
    #19798971 - 04/05/14 11:58 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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What might really blow you alls mind is this last one is just Verm below and in top of the finely crumbled cake. No coir or gypsum! And the results were damn near the same!




How do you prepare the verm?  water to verm ration, do you sterilize?  I have 4 brf jars about 95% colonized and want to try this out...



I didn't say that :lol:
you can sterilize it.
aim for field capacity.

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    #19799061 - 04/05/14 12:21 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

yeah you can bring it to field capacity (when squeezed hard only 2 or 3 drops should come out) you don't want it wet and sloppy just moist like a wrung out sponge. Pack it into jars and PC or boil it. Then get your cakes put them in a gallon zip-lock bag and break them up into tiny pieces, the smaller the better. (more colonization points and better distribution through sub.) mix the two in a container of your choosing and let the mycelium do the rest. Fruit when 100% colonized.

You can probably get away with pasteurizing straight verm, its pretty contam resistant on its own.

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    #19799073 - 04/05/14 12:26 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Sorry i should have been more specific, cover the container you mix the verm and crumbled cakes in with foil and poke a couple holes in it with a toothpick and leave it in a draft free area around 76-80 degrees to colonize. Should take 7-10 days depending on spawn/sub ratio. :goodluck:

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    #19799102 - 04/05/14 12:32 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Would adding brf help with nutrients?  I've read that breaking up cakes will not be as good due to nutrient loss.

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    #19799141 - 04/05/14 12:43 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I wouldn't add brf, also I'm not sure what you mean by nutrient loss? If anything mix the verm with some coir and/or horse manure if available. But the OP of this thread seems to of had pretty good results spawning the cakes to just verm. :mushroom2:

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    #19799151 - 04/05/14 12:46 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

sorry, meant lack of nutrients

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    #19799200 - 04/05/14 12:54 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I've read that also but never had a problem spawning pf cakes to hpoo, or coir which is less nutritious, so i wouldn't worry about it. :thumbup:

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    #19800275 - 04/05/14 05:37 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I have never sterilized just straight Verm when I'm spawning to it and I've never had a contam but it wouldn't hurt. My luck will probably run out soon haha

Thank you all for all your interest ! I'll be starting the grow log tomorrow so I'll keep everyone updated!


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Re: Thank you shroomery! -Pics- [Re: VYBE]
    #19800392 - 04/05/14 06:04 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Dude, you seriously need to make a quick TEK and post that shit! Those look fantastic! Each brick is from 1 cake?


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Re: Thank you shroomery! -Pics- [Re: VYBE]
    #19802462 - 04/06/14 07:17 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Hey dude, I just harvested 150g wet today off a brick using essentially the same method but with four cakes and mixed all up :rockon: In my records, it has the highest yield/volume of anything I've tried yet. Cakes + coir can be awesome.


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    #19802548 - 04/06/14 07:56 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Would adding brf help with nutrients?  I've read that breaking up cakes will not be as good due to nutrient loss.



Don't add BRF it's highly nutritious it will always lead to contamination if you add it to a bulk substrate unless you're spawning your bulk substrate in a laboratory clean room and leaving it in there.

BRF is borderline too nutritious don't worry about nutrient loss if anything you want to lower the nutrients anyway.

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Re: Thank you shroomery! -Pics- [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19803113 - 04/06/14 11:00 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Okay! I will do a nice little write up before I start the grow log today! I'll  sure I get all the details  in there. anyone that wants to give this a shot and doesn't know how will have no problem following the steps.

I'll post the link in this thread  as soon as I'm done!

And again, thank all of you for the interest! Sharing ideas is part of growing so be sure to throw any feedback my way!


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Re: Thank you shroomery! -Pics- [Re: VYBE]
    #19803120 - 04/06/14 11:01 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

My God..! TASTY STUFF! :eek:

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Re: Thank you shroomery! -Pics- [Re: VYBE]
    #19804692 - 04/06/14 05:55 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

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Okay! I will do a nice little write up before I start the grow log today! I'll  sure I get all the details  in there. anyone that wants to give this a shot and doesn't know how will have no problem following the steps.

I'll post the link in this thread  as soon as I'm done!

And again, thank all of you for the interest! Sharing ideas is part of growing so be sure to throw any feedback my way!





Can't wait! I have some babies that will be ready soon, so I'm definitely going to try this


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    #19804729 - 04/06/14 06:05 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Just wondering, what sub to spawn ratio you used?

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    #19805361 - 04/06/14 08:15 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I'm finishing up the tek now but to answer your question, I use a 2:1 verm to spawn ratio!


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