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Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] (Updated current progress results)
    #19252511 - 12/09/13 10:53 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

Ive had 4 small jars in an incubator for a week now. I saw first sign of mycelum growth in the 3rd day and by now one of the jars is white and has covered every spot on the BRF/verm substrate. Should I keep it in there for a longer period of time or should I get it out so it will start pinning?

Ok so 2 of the 4 small jars(including the very small jar that was included that I posted a picture of) were put in a bucket with only 2 holes at the top, covered in perlite at the bottom and the top covered with see through garbage. I didnt dunk and roll these cakes, I just added few bits of verm on the top of the cakes.

The other 2 jars were a bit bigger in size. I dunked them for 16 hours and sprinkled verm on all sides of it and placed it in a SGFC style bucket with holes on the bottom and the sides.

I gave them the same amount of care but the smallest cake that wasnt even dunked gave the most pins and has the biggest shrooms on it so far. The other ones have have very few probably 2-3, especially the two dunked and rolled that were placed on the SGFC.


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19252516 - 12/09/13 10:54 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19252528 - 12/09/13 10:56 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

If you are going to fruit it as it is let it consolidate for a week after full colonization.

If you plan on crumbling it into bulk substrate then crumble at 100% colonization while the mycelium is fresh and young.


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: SuperFly]
    #19252587 - 12/09/13 11:09 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

http://i.imgur.com/OiwNfT1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0VEfSCD.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eo1iXsA.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9BUqId0.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/8xJCM1o.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/1wmbWsU.jpg

Here are the pics.
I want to get it out of the jars when I see pinnings to put them in another container for them to grow. Im following the PFtek


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19252604 - 12/09/13 11:12 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

Dry Verm Layer? Ditch that foil bro. I'm surprised those colonized as quickly as you said.


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: SuperFly]
    #19252608 - 12/09/13 11:13 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

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If you are going to fruit it as it is let it consolidate for a week after full colonization.

If you plan on crumbling it into bulk substrate then crumble at 100% colonization while the mycelium is fresh and young.




:whathesaid: A week seems kinda quick for jars to be fully colonized.. even working with brf bags the quickest ive had em fully colonize was 10 days, and bags can be mashed which speeds colonization up like 5 times compared to brf jars. im guessing just the outside of the substrate is colonized, and you dont wanna try to rush it and have em contam..besides, if the middle isnt colonized the cakes most likely wont pin bc there is still sub to colonize.. i would gve em at least another 6 days even if your sure they arw colonized all the way through so they consolidate..

even if you are gonna crumble and case em with 50/50 etc or sawn to a mono i think you better give em another week.. better to wait than have your work turn green!


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19252617 - 12/09/13 11:15 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

What made you decide to use shot glasses? Was it a test or practice run? I dont see any other reason for wasting the spores on 1.5 oz cakes unless testing syringe you made or something bc your not gonna get much at all even if you case all of em..


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: MustardTiger66]
    #19252619 - 12/09/13 11:15 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

Upon further review, those jars are tiny! What ratio of verm/BRF did you use? This partially explains the quick colonization


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19252628 - 12/09/13 11:16 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

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What made you decide to use shot glasses? Was it a test or practice run? I dont see any other reason for wasting the spores on 1.5 oz cakes unless testing syringe you made or something bc your not gonna get much at all even if you case all of em..




:thumbup: Invest in some 1/2 pint jars. Very cheap.


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19252631 - 12/09/13 11:17 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

Well the actual problem is that this is my first time and I don't know if the middle part is colonized or not. I didnt use premade stuff, I just added verm + brown rice flour that I made myself. I topped it with dry verm and put it there last sunday night.


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19252639 - 12/09/13 11:20 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

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Well the actual problem is that this is my first time and I don't know if the middle part is colonized or not. I didnt use premade stuff, I just added verm + brown rice flour that I made myself. I topped it with dry verm and put it there last sunday night.




At the rate your jars are going, consolidate for a few days after full colonization. I'm interested to see the yield. Anyone care to place a wager on how many actual fruit bodies end up on these little guys? Make sure you post pics of pinning.


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: MustardTiger66]
    #19252647 - 12/09/13 11:21 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

I used tiny glasses to test out how the incubator does its job and if my sterilization technique worked, so basically it was a test to see if everything is fine. I added bigger jars later on once I saw that all the 4 jars showed no signs of contamination.

The verm to brf ratio is 3.5 to 1


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: MustardTiger66]
    #19252651 - 12/09/13 11:22 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

Those are ADORABLE! I wanna know how this turns out, as well!


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: bolbol]
    #19252670 - 12/09/13 11:24 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

Id be willing to bet that even as small as they are, the middles arent colonized.. i noticed a few lil spots on em in your pics that look like some arent even completely done on the outside.. i would def case all em using frankhorrigans 50/50 tek and maybe you can pull 1-4g dry depending on the weight of all of your shot glass cakes vombined..either way give em more time and dont forget to start some new half pint jars so you wont have to wait a month after yoyr shotglass cakes are spent.. always have jars colonizing bc after you succesfully grow the first time your gonna be addicted to growing em.. i enjoy growing even more than eating em lol


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19252712 - 12/09/13 11:31 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

Unless yoyr house is 65°F or colder a incubator isnt neccasary.. i do put my jars and bags in a room at my grow house that averages 75° and gets as high as 80°F.. but temps in the 80s increase the risk of germinating endosporest that survived sterilization.. cooler temps are less likely to germinate dormant contams


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19252736 - 12/09/13 11:34 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

It is colder than 65.. I had the thermostat on 28 C and ive had couple of times when I checked on it and it was unplugged but it definitely didnt stay without a thermostat heating it up for more than 8 hours.


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19252748 - 12/09/13 11:35 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

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Unless yoyr house is 65°F or colder a incubator isnt neccasary.. i do put my jars and bags in a room at my grow house that averages 75° and gets as high as 80°F.. but temps in the 80s increase the risk of germinating endosporest that survived sterilization.. cooler temps are less likely to germinate dormant contams



A Portable electric oil heater on wheels and a bedroom is the best incubator I've ever used.


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: MustardTiger66]
    #19252774 - 12/09/13 11:40 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

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Unless yoyr house is 65°F or colder a incubator isnt neccasary.. i do put my jars and bags in a room at my grow house that averages 75° and gets as high as 80°F.. but temps in the 80s increase the risk of germinating endosporest that survived sterilization.. cooler temps are less likely to germinate dormant contams



A Portable electric oil heater on wheels and a bedroom is the best incubator I've ever used.



I hear these arw the best way to incubate if you have to get temps up.. just dont use heat pads etc like alot of noobs use,bc they dry the substrate out and are possible fire hazards


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19252784 - 12/09/13 11:42 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

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SamhainJ said:
Unless yoyr house is 65°F or colder a incubator isnt neccasary.. i do put my jars and bags in a room at my grow house that averages 75° and gets as high as 80°F.. but temps in the 80s increase the risk of germinating endosporest that survived sterilization.. cooler temps are less likely to germinate dormant contams



A Portable electric oil heater on wheels and a bedroom is the best incubator I've ever used.



I hear these arw the best way to incubate if you have to get temps up.. just dont use heat pads etc like alot of noobs use,bc they dry the substrate out and are possible fire hazards



Truth. Also, the electric oil heaters don't mess with the RH too much which I enjoy for a variety of reasons.


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Re: Is 1 week of Incubation enough? [Newbie] [Re: MustardTiger66]
    #19252838 - 12/09/13 11:51 PM (1 year, 12 days ago)

you want to heat the whole room not just the container its in.

like Phil Collins said an oil radiant heater in the room is your best friend


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