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grow bags and tips
    #19063545 - 10/31/13 03:42 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

im kinda new to this growing thing my last try didn't go all that great im going to try these grow bags any one have any advice or tips to toss out they would be greatly appreated thnx guys


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: mushcrab]
    #19063558 - 10/31/13 03:44 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Out-Grow

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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: JMcDoogle]
    #19063567 - 10/31/13 03:46 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

yeah but more asking what are the best ones to get and what strain gorws best in them


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: mushcrab]
    #19063667 - 10/31/13 04:08 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

cubensis grow great in them

I think you're confused about strain.
Any mating spores make a strain even if they're from different "varieties" (i.e. a GT and B+ spore will mate because they're both cubes and the only difference is the name printed on the syringe)

So pick a name you like because it makes no difference they all have the same genes and to get consistently good characteristics you'll have to isolate strains on agar.

The best growbags are the ones you make yourself. Buy the bag with the filter patch and optional SHIP. Fill it up, Seal it, PC it, Inoc it.


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19063695 - 10/31/13 04:15 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I would  recomend outgrows brf bags for a noob, you can fruit em right in the bag, amd as long as you try to be careful with sanitation you should have no problem.. outgrows products are for legal mushroom cultivation of course :wink: .. but if you want to grow a fast colonizing strain in something other than outgrows brf bags i would recomend F+, it is hands down the fast colonizing strain i have ever dealt with.. 10 days and my bags are 99 percent colonized


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19063696 - 10/31/13 04:15 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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cubensis grow great in them

I think you're confused about strain.
Any mating spores make a strain even if they're from different "varieties" (i.e. a GT and B+ spore will mate because they're both cubes and the only difference is the name printed on the syringe)

So pick a name you like because it makes no difference they all have the same genes and to get consistently good characteristics you'll have to isolate strains on agar.

The best growbags are the ones you make yourself. Buy the bag with the filter patch and optional SHIP. Fill it up, Seal it, PC it, Inoc it.




whats a good mix /size bag to go with ?


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: mushcrab]
    #19063720 - 10/31/13 04:21 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Outgrow sell presterilized half pound brf for 3.50 each, you cant beat that price and brf is good for beginners


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19063795 - 10/31/13 04:40 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Hey, just wanted to put my 2 cents in. I have tried the out grow bag and I would suggest making a self-healing injection site on the bag first. (rtv sealant) My experiment ended up in the trash because I used tape to cover the inoculation site and that resulted in contamination. Or you could get mad bags from mad season. (more expensive but has everything you need except the spores) good luck and happy growing


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: shroomluv]
    #19064053 - 10/31/13 05:27 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I just tape the injection sotewith scotch tape folled by duct tape, if your house is really full of contams in the air etc id go with a self healing injector port bag.. but ive heard of alot of people having good results with just taping the brf bags up.. different everybody i guess, but if you lose a few brf bags at least they are onlu 3.50 each and not 17.00 like mycofactorys bags were..


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19064877 - 10/31/13 07:47 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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whats a good mix /size bag to go with ?




The biggest you can handle :shrug:


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19065202 - 10/31/13 08:41 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

so the self sealing all pourpes mad bag would b a good choice
learning a lot thnx guys


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: mushcrab]
    #19065379 - 10/31/13 09:09 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I don't suggest pre-steralized bags in general. You don't own a pressure cooker? It's kind of like buying 10 5$ bowls or saving up to buy a 30$ bag.


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19065425 - 10/31/13 09:18 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Ummm...remove vendor name perhaps? That or do not suggest using their products for cubensis....those spores are for microscopy research only.


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: Nakor420]
    #19072865 - 11/02/13 01:32 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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Ummm...remove vendor name perhaps? That or do not suggest using their products for cubensis....those spores are for microscopy research only.



hmm I see ur point LOL any other thoughts or any one use the bags on a regular basies have any advice and should I let it fruit in the bag or case it thanks agin for all the help so far guys


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: mushcrab]
    #19073757 - 11/02/13 08:25 AM (1 year, 1 month ago)

My advise...learn how to use Agar, grain spawn, bulk substrate and monotubs


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: Nakor420]
    #19076238 - 11/02/13 07:35 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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My advise...learn how to use Agar, grain spawn, bulk substrate and monotubs



im going for ezest way for a beginner and then im going to start experimenting with different ways to do the stuff I wana see how they grow and the different stages so I know sotra what im looking for when I make my own stuff or are none of the growbags good for this


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: mushcrab]
    #19076520 - 11/02/13 08:40 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

The bags are great for beginners, they yeild better than pf cakes and you will have a higher success rate..and yes you can use em on a  Regular basis i used em for years and a grain bag should put out well over a dry oz each


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19076656 - 11/02/13 09:17 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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The bags are great for beginners, they yeild better than pf cakes and you will have a higher success rate..and yes you can use em on a  Regular basis i used em for years and a grain bag should put out well over a dry oz each




awesome thanks any one eles have any thig to throw in on this


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: SamhainJ]
    #19076742 - 11/02/13 09:36 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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The bags are great for beginners, they yeild better than pf cakes and you will have a higher success rate..and yes you can use em on a  Regular basis i used em for years and a grain bag should put out well over a dry oz each




:lolwut:

They're no easier than PF cakes. If PF cakes are hard then find a different hobby. The simplest and most basic concepts to this hobby are learned with the PF tek. If you cant do that right you're doomed.

They don't have higher yields... It depends on how big of a bag you get. The yield is relative to how many cakes vs how much spawn/sub you use.

IDK where the 1oz number came from, your bags maybe. Any way a grain bag still needs to be mixed with pasteurized substrate and fruited properly to preform well. Cakes only need to be birthed and put into the SGFC.

If you can start with bulk and skip PF great. But, then you would be one of those people who wouldn't be asking basic questions because you would have figured it all out from reading on your own instead of going all my own personal army mode on your research.


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Re: grow bags and tips [Re: bodhisatta]
    #19076794 - 11/02/13 09:50 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Bags are easier than jars in the aspect that you can buy them presterilized. Also as far as having to case grain bags, you can buy grain grow bags moxed with vermiculite etc and fruit right in the bag.. amd as far as "the whole oz thing" thats the minimum ive pulled total off of a self sufficent grain "enviro-bag"..
if you were around a decade ago or even a few years ago you would know all about mycobag/mycofactory and before you go off on people about using bags and not making cakes just consider it helps get alot of people into the hobby.. i started with pf tek jars 11 years ago and the yeild was bull shit.. like a dry eighth total per half pint cake.. if i jad to choose id rather go with bags where my average first flush dry weight was 14-20 grams..


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