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My wife objects to using plants
    #18794425 - 09/03/13 03:46 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Before marriage I have been using plants, and it cured me profoundly emotionally and mentally, and had profound spiritual experiences.
I am married 7 years.
I have been using plants here and there during marriage.
My wife is very afraid of these and also being christian, thinks its satanic.
She has become very much against it, after one time she took mushrooms with me, and had a bad trip.
Partly to make peace, and after speaking with our pastor which supported her, I agreed to stop it for one year.
This year is about to finish and I feel like the plants call me to use them.
I just want to use the plants a few times a year, as I did before.
(Trichocereus cactus, with a mix of Syrian rue seed which has similarities of effect to Ayahuska.)
Any suggestions?


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: jivangilad]
    #18794463 - 09/03/13 03:54 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

im always a big believer in marriage to party equals.
that said,
my second husband only smoked pot.
didnt even drink.
but, he didnt care in the least what me and the maid grew / ate.

i vote ya bail.
easier to get growing and, a new GF , than fight it out.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: jivangilad]
    #18794471 - 09/03/13 03:55 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Maybe show her some documentaries about the plants. She maybe had some misconceptions drilled into her in earlier years, and thus still thinks their use is immoral. I would not do it behind her back unless as a very last resort, but to betray trust like that seems wrong. Maybe don't ask her to partake with you, but only that she let you do it and give you room a few days out of the year for you to have these experiences.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: jivangilad]
    #18794473 - 09/03/13 03:55 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Have you spoken to your wife about this yet?
Or does the topic title mean you did and she is definitely against it?

I would say try speaking to her openly and try making her understand how these are benefiting you. But if you cannot make her understand, then there's little point forcing her to.

What about friends? Do you have anyone that is also using these plants? Maybe you can make a deal to only use them outside the house?

Most important thing to make her realize is that these are of no harm to you, I think that's what matters most.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: anne halonium]
    #18794482 - 09/03/13 03:57 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Christianity is largely based on entheogen usage, you think the Eucharist was all just "mixed wine" we all know what was mixed .

Your wife needs to respect your views and you have the responsibility of teaching her where your spiritual standpoint stems from and hers.

Sounds to me like she's brainwashed.

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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: Agentchewy]
    #18794520 - 09/03/13 04:06 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Bring her to an ayahuasca circle. It's religious and probably more relatable. And beautifully conducted. Its less centered on the drug and more on the communion. Just make sure she only takes a tame dose the first time so she can see the pleasant side of it


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Re: My wife objects to using plants *DELETED* [Re: jivangilad]
    #18794563 - 09/03/13 04:19 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Post deleted by karode13

Reason for deletion: Flame riddled troll puke of a response. Deleted so others don't have to read the drivel.



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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: Judeanpeoplesfront]
    #18794607 - 09/03/13 04:29 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I didnt smoke pot for years because my ex wife didnt "want" me to. She wound up being a pothead and fucking my drug dealer neighbor. With that said do what the fuck YOU want to do.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: jivangilad]
    #18794608 - 09/03/13 04:29 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

This is something that hurts me badly, because you are going to have years of life and marriage if you never get to use your natural plants again that's a long time:mad:.

I know people like this too they think God will judge us for use of the beautiful plants he put here and I just do not feel He does. I can't see were using plants that are not addictive and none harmful wrong. I can see hard drug as wrong, they rip peoples lives apart so I see that. But I think if you feel God does not see this as a problem in your life you are free to take part. If these plants and there natural medicines are not a problem for YOU then you should be able to take part in this as long as done properly and are not abusing them. She must understand that you don't feel this is wrong.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: jonnymushroom]
    #18794682 - 09/03/13 04:48 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

plant nut job. plant obsessed. plant thinks hes leory. plant trips balls. plant too old for that. plant know better.

you know what, its plant divorce.

its you puking your brains out.

its your wifes hellish nightmare camping trip

smoke some weed, dude.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: Judeanpeoplesfront]
    #18794691 - 09/03/13 04:51 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Judeanpeoplesfront said:
i think you should grow some peyote for 20 years and grow the fuck up
i think shrooms are a brutal fight
and you can only DMT yourself so many times before its kinda like uhh
dude
salvia your brains out and put it in the past
how old are you?
do some real drugs
get cranked out or something
start a dex habbit
smoke weed
you can only primitive yourself so many times before you hate it and give in to the dust
go trip a buncha shrooms as old and married as you are out at the bar and get your laughing faggot ass beat
lol
grow some peyote for 20 years and grow up with it
you cant handle the truth
ive tripped salvia to the point of being completely on fire and ive tripped dxm straight to the pit of hell and ive tripped morning glory straight to the virgin mary and acid to the wiggles and ive injected crystal meth and heroin and ive smoked strong lye based DMT and liked it

and shrooms make me cry

your a faggot
dont push shrooms on your wife
thats a stab
a shoot
thats a shoot you

ayahuasca dmt tripping... to be completely honest.... that came from... thats... thats a dangerous mixture of MAOI and tryptamines they use it to make it active but its common knowledge that its a poisonous concoction that can straight up fucking kill you. to be totally honest.... ayahuasca is a spik jungle nigger junkie with a corked bottle full of mud. a "shaman" as you would call it. dude, its a mud drink. a shaman is a jungle junkie. what are you retarded? the amazon trippers would cut your fucking head off. 

grow some peyote. raise it. it will raise you. 




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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #18794701 - 09/03/13 04:53 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

hahahaha
lucy
why so tainted?
lmao
lucy
why so arsenic?
lucy
lucy why so seizure?


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: Judeanpeoplesfront]
    #18794703 - 09/03/13 04:54 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

:canthelpbutlaugh:


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: jivangilad]
    #18794707 - 09/03/13 04:55 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Sorry I don't have much advice to give, but I thought I'd comment on the subject. I hear about similar situations on the shroomery several times a year....Situations where there's a couple in a relationship, and one of the people in the relationship completely disagrees with or doesn't understand the others use of psychedelics.



I don't understand how a person ends up in a relationship/married to someone that doesn't agree with something that they do...in this case, using psychoactive plants. Don't relationships usually involve both people more or less having similar interests, perspective, & similar outlooks on life?


I mean how does a person that uses these psychoactive plants/cactus/mushrooms end up getting married to someone that considers them to be "satanic"?....It's really hard for me to wrap my mind around. I'd never get my self into a relationship with someone that's against something I do, or with someone that is brainwashed & closed minded in regards to things that are an important part of my life.





No offense meant by this post...it's just that I see these sorts of threads on the shroomery from time to time and really don't understand how people land them selves in these situations/relationships.




If I were in the situation, though...I'd explain to her how they work in lay-mans terms, how they're physically harmless, and their history or use.






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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: openmind]
    #18794762 - 09/03/13 05:11 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Well you don't have many options. I say that you just try to explain it to her and if she can't accept it then she either has to tolerate it or leave or snitch on you...so if you don't trust her...maybe you should leave, I don't know, man. Good luck.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: GreySatyr]
    #18794840 - 09/03/13 05:28 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

I'm shocked at the amount of people that are suggesting you leave your wife just because she doesn't condone drug use.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: openmind]
    #18794888 - 09/03/13 05:37 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

oh, you think its not satanic?
yes it is
i can admit that to you
its a fucking possession fit
what are you a retard or what?
this is
call the pagans out man
they arent fucking mellow lovey flower peace sign
dude
its a fucking evil cult, man
all those christian nut jobs are a result of pagan brainwashing
aka
drug slips
or ya know
vise versa
the blood of christ
pffft
blood

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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: eMpire420]
    #18795022 - 09/03/13 06:03 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

Quote:

eMpire420 said:
I'm shocked at the amount of people that are suggesting you leave your wife just because she doesn't condone drug use.




I'm not saying that's my advice, but it's extremely difficult in the long run to maintain a relationship when there are such fundamental differences. Drugs come with a ton of bias on both ends. It's usually not a "to each their own" scenario. Every time I used to trip my ex would get super stressed out. That's not healthy for anyone


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: JacksonMetaller]
    #18795041 - 09/03/13 06:07 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

If you want that pussy every night you better listen to your wife. Pussy over psychedelics...maan.


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Re: My wife objects to using plants [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #18795060 - 09/03/13 06:11 PM (1 year, 1 month ago)

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tahp93 said:
If you want that pussy every night you better listen to your wife. Pussy over psychedelics...maan.




Pussy on psychedelics :feelsgoodman:


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