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Re: Egypt [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18717981 - 08/17/13 07:29 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Religous extremism is not compatible with democracy,



Fixed.




Islam is waaaay more extreme than the other shit out there.


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Re: Egypt [Re: koods]
    #18717983 - 08/17/13 07:30 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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All that info, yet you managed to not include the coup?




That was from an article dated July 1st. I wanted to show BS a timeline of events and the reasons behind military action. The elections were rushed and the Brotherhood were the only real organization. This attempt at democracy was doomed from the start. They should have waited longer to hold the elections.

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Re: Egypt [Re: setb]
    #18717984 - 08/17/13 07:31 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Fairly democratic, right.





I wonder how it all started.. :rolleyes:


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Re: Egypt [Re: Constantine]
    #18717991 - 08/17/13 07:33 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Muslim crazies launching rockets from civilian buildings and blowing themselves up in markets, clubs, city buses, etc.

There seems to be a common factor here.

Islam cannot, cannot coexist at all. Even rival sects of Islam are at war.

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Re: Egypt [Re: setb]
    #18717998 - 08/17/13 07:36 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Religion is not compatible with democracy.




Israel is a largely Jewish state and it's fairly free and democratic. Most predominantly Christian states seem to be fairly free. Don't be so PC :wink:.




For the most part, Israel has a secular government, Israel is a Jewish state so Jews have a place to go. There are nutty Jews in Israel though.

The problem with majority Islam countries is that everything is centered around the religion - even the governments defer to Islam. Turkey is really the only country that was able to put Islam in its place and that took a strong dictator to impose his will and set up institutions separate from the religion.. I dunno, how is Indonesia doing.


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Re: Egypt [Re: koods]
    #18718003 - 08/17/13 07:38 AM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, you do have a point there. There are even Islamic groups that want to replace our law and the law of western European nations with Islamic law.

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Re: Egypt [Re: NotTheDevil]
    #18718681 - 08/17/13 12:11 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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I've tasted his lamb.



Is that a euphamism or do you mean the meat like from a sheep?




I'm talking about meat from a sheep, he occasionally hooks me up with leftovers.

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Re: Egypt [Re: Sick Dusk]
    #18718836 - 08/17/13 01:11 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah I would try to persuade the Egyptian to listen to you talk about how much you want his friendship, and how you'll sacrifice everything in order to attain it. You would wish for this attainment of their friendship to be an eternal reward you can relish in. You can either keep the friendship as an eternal present awaiting the other persons opening, or you may lcose the present and never allow it to be shown again. It is your choice, and remember that the decision nyou make will alter your future forever. It will never be the same after you decide to cast that choice into the boxes that interlink the choices that you have been granted to use or disuse.


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Re: Egypt [Re: drkkenny]
    #18718928 - 08/17/13 01:37 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

If Islam is incompatible with democracy, then it's obvious that Egypt can't have a democracy. :shrug:

It would be nice if Egypt could work out an arrangement like Turkey, but their military just seems too hasty. And I think Morsi's missteps have been trumped-up, and his administration actually sabotaged by loyalists to the Mubarak regime. The power outages that precipitated mass protests against him were orchestrated by his enemies.


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Re: Egypt [Re: drkkenny]
    #18719075 - 08/17/13 02:10 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

I think I'd like to cast my friendship into the Egyptian's opening and trust that I know that it will alter my future forever.

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Re: Egypt [Re: Sick Dusk]
    #18719084 - 08/17/13 02:12 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/11/world/middleeast/improvements-in-egypt-suggest-a-campaign-that-undermined-morsi.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

It stinks. :shrug: The military shouldn't have to stoop to political sabotage to justify its actions. If they were the friend of the people then they wouldn't punish the people for making the "wrong" choice at the ballot box.

You don't have to like Morsi's religious or political positions, it's not your fucking business. You do not live in Egypt.


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Re: Egypt [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18719124 - 08/17/13 02:24 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Remember kids the USA has given the egyptian army thousands of to of the line tanks and hundreds if top of the line jets.  After Israel egypt is #2 on the list for highest amount of military "aid" given by the USA. 

Aid to Israel is for Israels security

Aid to Egypt is also for Israels security

Egypt is right next to Israel and you'd better believe that the Zionists would not allow an anti-zionist democraticly elected government like morsi's to rule over all of that army.

They keep control of the army through the billions in "aid" (the USA pretty much built the Egyptian army) to keep Israel safe from a hostile Egypt.


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Re: Egypt [Re: Sick Dusk]
    #18719186 - 08/17/13 02:41 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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I just got out of a cab driven by quite the Egyptian man. I have a bit of a relationship with him, I've tasted his lamb.





You wanna taste mine?


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Re: Egypt [Re: ganjfather]
    #18719189 - 08/17/13 02:43 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

will there be rice involved?

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Re: Egypt [Re: Sick Dusk]
    #18719201 - 08/17/13 02:47 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Naw just lamb and meat balls.


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Re: Egypt [Re: ganjfather]
    #18719204 - 08/17/13 02:48 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

Shucks, though I am a sucker for a tasty meatball

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Re: Egypt [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18719294 - 08/17/13 03:14 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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That's bullshit. The military stymied his accession and his administration every step of the way. Morsi had no force to back up his authority other than the will of the people, and the military betrayed it.




It's actually quite the opposite of bullshit, more like the facts of the situation.

I find it funny you seemingly supported that fascist in sheep skin Morsi, and his organization of extremists.


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Re: Egypt [Re: Nifflerz]
    #18719341 - 08/17/13 03:27 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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Yeah it's out of control over there. Death everywhere. I was checking out CNN earlier and what's going on over there at the moment is pretty staggering.






Is that you on the ball??

Holy Shit!!

Punish me...


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Re: Egypt [Re: Everlong]
    #18719385 - 08/17/13 03:39 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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That's bullshit. The military stymied his accession and his administration every step of the way. Morsi had no force to back up his authority other than the will of the people, and the military betrayed it.




It's actually quite the opposite of bullshit, more like the facts of the situation.

I find it funny you seemingly supported that fascist in sheep skin Morsi, and his organization of extremists.




The extremists are the military who are slaughtering protesters wholesale.

I'm starting to seriously wonder where you get your news.


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Re: Egypt [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #18719435 - 08/17/13 03:55 PM (10 years, 7 months ago)

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That's bullshit. The military stymied his accession and his administration every step of the way. Morsi had no force to back up his authority other than the will of the people, and the military betrayed it.




It's actually quite the opposite of bullshit, more like the facts of the situation.

I find it funny you seemingly supported that fascist in sheep skin Morsi, and his organization of extremists.




The extremists are the military who are slaughtering protesters wholesale.

I'm starting to seriously wonder where you get your news.



Same here man. :lol:

I've watched videos of the military hovering over crowds with their countries flags to massive cheers. The only problems they've had has been with the Muslim Brotherhood, who has made it clear from day one of the presidential oust that they have no problem resorting to violence.

Morsi was quickly becoming the same figure Egypt just removed. You remember their was protests while he was in office, correct? Protesting against Morsi's disregard of human rights, taking on the agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood.


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