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OfflinebEelzeBosS
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Natural tolerance to shrooms?
    #18588816 - 07/21/13 10:44 AM (1 year, 1 day ago)

So I decided to try to trip again last night, 3rd time in the last 3 months but had the same result as the other two times...very relaxed and a good body high but no visuals at all. The first time I ate 3 grams dry, 2nd time 3.5 grams dry, and last night 30 grams fresh. When I was in my late teens/early 20's I would have awesome shroom trips off of less than an eighth with lots of visuals. Now Im in my mid 30's and it just isnt the same.

Could I possibly just have a natural tolerance to shrooms now? Should I double my dose next time? Whats the most I could safely eat? Im 5'11"/180 lbs.


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18588840 - 07/21/13 10:51 AM (1 year, 1 day ago)

are they all from the same batch?

a 100kg man can take about 14g of pure psilo before OD, a 5g trip has about 30-40mg


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18588984 - 07/21/13 11:26 AM (1 year, 1 day ago)

Yeah, if they were all from the same batch, or same dude, that could be it. Or maybe you need to wait longer than a month between trips. I seem to be the opposite of you. All my friends will take an 8th to 4 grams and have a blast. Ill take 2gs and be stuck in my head the whole night. Not talking and freaking out and just not that much fun to be around. My last few tnrips have been like that, very paranoid. Guess that's why I havnt tripped in a couple years. Sucks.


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18588995 - 07/21/13 11:30 AM (1 year, 1 day ago)

Even having a big tolerance to psilocybin I would have thought 3.5g dried would still give visuals. Perhaps not very strong shrooms?


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: thepowerofthemind]
    #18589004 - 07/21/13 11:32 AM (1 year, 1 day ago)

1st two times were from the same batch, the fresh I ate last night I grew myself. But I was under the impression that for the most part a cubes a cube and there's usually not much difference in potency.


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18589013 - 07/21/13 11:35 AM (1 year, 1 day ago)

Are you taking SSRI medication?


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: 22Carat]
    #18589028 - 07/21/13 11:37 AM (1 year, 1 day ago)

potency is relatively stable grower to grower, but there are variables that can increase or lower potency per gram like for instance when they were picked in their life cycle and how well they were taken care of, then theres whether or not they were dried and stored correctly and how long have they been stored.


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: thepowerofthemind]
    #18589040 - 07/21/13 11:41 AM (1 year, 1 day ago)

Tolerance is not the issue here.  They potency of the medicine is.  Variation in potency of a specie can be surprisingly great.  I have seen strains of ps. Cubensis that were twice as strong as other strains of the same specie.  Also, smaller mushrooms are generally more potent than larger, more mature specimens.

I am of the opinion that today's easier cultivation methods wind up spreading a lot of mediocre genes.  Use more, that's all.  Better still, keep working until you get better genes.


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: Old Pokey]
    #18589102 - 07/21/13 11:54 AM (1 year, 1 day ago)

No medications except tramadol occasionally for chronic back pain...and fish oil and a multivitamin every day. I guess next time I'll try 5 grams. I could barely choke down 3.5, that going to be a lot of shrooms.


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: bishlap]
    #18589113 - 07/21/13 11:56 AM (1 year, 1 day ago)

Quote:

bishlap said:
are they all from the same batch?

a 100kg man can take about 14g of pure psilo before OD, a 5g trip has about 30-40mg



I don't have any evidence but I thought it was more like 20grams pure to kill man?


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #18589190 - 07/21/13 12:13 PM (1 year, 1 day ago)

You may just have developed a higher tolerance over time.

I met this kid who i gave 120mg of DiMiTri and he blew through it in one bowl (layered properly) and felt next to nothing.... That would have blown me to bits!

I was astonished to say the least.

He told me shortly thereafter that it takes alot of Lucy (7hits) to obtain even simple fractals...


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #18589250 - 07/21/13 12:29 PM (1 year, 1 day ago)

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bishlap said:
are they all from the same batch?

a 100kg man can take about 14g of pure psilo before OD, a 5g trip has about 30-40mg



I don't have any evidence but I thought it was more like 20grams pure to kill man?




first off I don't know.. but with the given information, if 14g OD then it's safe to assume that 20g would kill you just like 40g?


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: deformedreality]
    #18589260 - 07/21/13 12:33 PM (1 year, 1 day ago)

theoretically the LD50 in a 100kg rat would be closer to 28g of pure psilo, but I read somewhere the estimated human LD50 is about half that of rats.


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: bishlap]
    #18589579 - 07/21/13 02:10 PM (1 year, 1 day ago)

Sounds like you just aren't taking enough and the potency is kinda lacking. I disagree with "cube is a cube" slogan, some are way better than others ime. Try 5 grams or more next time and see how that goes. Make sure it's at a time when you haven't taken the Tramadol in several days. Smoke some weed about an hour into the trip, you'll be flying..

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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #18589640 - 07/21/13 02:29 PM (1 year, 1 day ago)

^ I agree I've had golden teachers at 5 grams do close to nothing.  But my PE an 8th always has me talking to walls.


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: The Doobie Dude]
    #18754419 - 08/25/13 10:35 AM (10 months, 21 days ago)

Just wanted to update, after over a month of doing them I decided to try again last night. This time I ate 8 grams powdered with a big glass of cranberry juice on an empty stomach. Still no visuals, and only a decent body high...probably not even as good as last time. Not taking any medications except for OTC pain medicine.

I know potency isn't the issue because my friends all tripped hard off of an eight and my gf at one point was on the floor laughing so hard she was begging me to help her and to make it stop...off of 2.5 grams. I dont understand how this is possible that everyone else can trip except me.


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18765778 - 08/27/13 10:40 PM (10 months, 18 days ago)

Id say it has to be something in your diet or something. Its pretty rare that someone would have such a tolerance. Or maybe you need to wait longer than a month... I dunno. I'm betting on something in your diet. Like how ssri's will make you not trip, or grapefruit juice or certain heartburn meds will pontentiate some drugs or something like that.


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: huffinglue]
    #18766386 - 08/28/13 12:41 AM (10 months, 18 days ago)

I agree with those saying you must have gotten REALLY un-potent shrooms. I get the good ol cubies which I think are average potency compared to the stronger strains. Lowest I've taken was 2 grams and I got LOTS of visuals for such a little amount.


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: theRAPeutic]
    #18766421 - 08/28/13 12:49 AM (10 months, 18 days ago)

its possible you have a rare brain chemistry, I have a friend who can double down on anything im taking and go home disappointed while im tasting the music for the next few hours.


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Re: Natural tolerance to shrooms? [Re: bEelzeBosS]
    #18766454 - 08/28/13 12:57 AM (10 months, 18 days ago)

I would say its very possible. Some people need 5 dry grams for a level4 and some take 3 dry for level 5 lol.


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