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#1856552 - 08/27/03 07:58 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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This is a thread for posting pics of more advanced setups. A setup qualifies as "advanced" if it incorporates unique aspects that show inventiveness, and/or that eliminate routine maintenance.
Right... So let me run down an aquaintance's setup here. Just finished setting up the terrarium, so I snapped a pic with the camera I happened to bring along.
Here's what there is to it:
- Someone (we'll refer to as "The Operator") sits in the barely-visible recliner. This is the highest quality of lazy reclining pilot seats for any supreme setup. Any operator equipped with a seat this comfortable might as well just lay back, smoke, and chill...
- The Operator may glance at his trusty active control and logging computer (referred to here as the "PCBrains" of the operation), which is simply the pictured LCD monitor, with a mouse, to control the Operator's Program. The PCBrain is neatly tucked away behind the recliner, and includes a high-speed connection to the internet for remote control as well as a route to control the Other PC (the main one, that is, for everything else).
- The Operator may choose to tweak the Operator's Program, to ensure optimal conditions. The Operator may also view a logfile of conditions, for the past month, with his trusty Operator's Log Viewer.
- The PCBrains of the Operation is allowed to control a panel of four outlets. Only one has something plugged in, which happens to be that Ultrasonic Humidifier. The USH is turned on around 50% capacity for humidity.
- The PCBrain also powers two circulation fans. The one "intake" fan pipes clean fresh room air down into the tank. The long "outgo" pipe along the bottom has its air sucked through by the "out" fan.
- The "out" air, which should export carbon dioxide before anything else (as CO2 is heavy, falls to bottom), runs past the temperature and % relative humidity sensors before getting dumped into the room air.
- These accurate sensors stimulate The [infamous] Box, the heart of the automation system. Getting one of The Boxes for yourself is not an easy task, or so I hear.
- The Operator's Program periodically polls The Box, asking it how the sensors are doing. The Operator's Program then evaluates The Operator's customized routine to determine what action it will take.
- When it decides to (according to the Operator's custom program), The Operator's Program will have The Box power the UltraSonic Humidifier, which adds a smooth flow of humid air into the "intake" pipe.
- The Operator's Program continues this routine unattended, so The Operator can continue to watch his TV, surf his Web, sip his Soda, smoke his Blunt, or do whatever he pleases.
- Meanwhile, the Two Casings bask in perfect regulated humidity.
I designed this system for this aquaintance of mine, intending on making it fully automated while incorporating a good level of humidity, and very good air flow.
Hopefully this setup will get the juices flowing for others. Please post (with pics) comments on Your Advanced Setup.
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#1856808 - 08/27/03 08:43 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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DAMN! Thats a nice setup there! Did you write the program yourself? How do you go about hooking a USH and sensors to a PC?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: MrMaddHatter]
#1856947 - 08/27/03 09:14 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I personally wrote the software behind it. The Box takes care of interfacing. I designed a simple parallel port device to read the sensors, and circuitry to switch 120v outlets.
Anno gave me a section in the FAQ, but I haven't had a lot of time to update it recently. Shit, college is coming up in a few weeks and I'm starting to fill in my time and do that shit... uhh, "manage"... so I'll be redesigning everything.
Currently there's a list of people, and I can only do so many boxes. I'm going to rewrite the hardware design (although not everyone can assemble their own). I'll also attempt to make it easier to mass produce the design at a lower price, to make it available to more people.
The software end's ok, although I have really been wanting to get around to rewriting the whole interface software. I already started by making an ActiveX component in Visual Basic, which I'll make freely available (w/ source).
I'm going to sell the backend software that I write. This software will use that same ActiveX component, so any VB programmers out there could use this activex to build their own sensor monitoring / device controlling software.
I already have a current version of the software running well, using that ActiveX component. That ActiveX component is intended to make both the software end, and the hardware end, universal. The software can be coded for any wiring configuration or any number of devices.
Keep posted... I should be coming out with some new shit in the coming weeks. I'll be giving anyone who got a box through me a free copy of the new software, and I'll consider offering the older version for free. We'll see how things go.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#1857496 - 08/27/03 11:45 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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hey poke, hehe how big is that fish tank? 30gal? 55gal?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: ahel]
#1857501 - 08/27/03 11:47 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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maybe you could hook me up with a parts list and the likes? very nice setup btw
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#1857924 - 08/28/03 03:03 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Its funny, but, I think you'd have better results with simpiler techniques like having perlite and fanning/misting your casings! 
I've had problems with my "advanced" setups!
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: angryshroom]
#1858101 - 08/28/03 04:50 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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some folks get a kick out of doing things the hard way.
looks like a technophile's dream to me.
but yeah, it could be done alot simpler.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Hippie3]
#1858265 - 08/28/03 06:46 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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angryshroom and hippie, you're 100% correct. It's entirely possible to achieve excellent results without any of the pictured devices.
But I'm lazy. Plus I like toying with electronics and such.
I think the tank's a 90 gallon, I don't remember.
The box was designed because the RH sensor in mind is so accurate. I wanted to log the climate long-term, with good accuracy, and I also wanted to incorporate an ultrasonic humidifier into the mix.
By building the box, I could also write whatever kind of software I want behind the works. This is interesting to me, which is why I did it. Plus, it eliminates problems with getting the right setting on the USH, or having the right intermediate chambers to reduce the amount of mist.
The setup is complex, admittedly, and isn't an easy task for the electronics novice. But it's worth it to me, and has paid off through months of trouble-free usage.
btw alpha, parts and design are on a page that's linked from the shroomery FAQ.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#1858337 - 08/28/03 07:30 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think that's friggin' fantastic. Even if you're using some anonymous cophrophile  as a test mushroom, such a system [when properly calibrated/tweaked] would be great for experimenting with more finicky genera/species. Sweet!
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Suntzu]
#1858372 - 08/28/03 07:45 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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true. I designed the system, although the pic is of a setup that uses The Box. The Operator of the pictured Lazy-Gro system says the shrooms are there for show; he is adding more plants and reptiles shortly. I hear he's trying to utilize the plants giving off oxygen, and the reptiles eating those damn mushroom flies that keep popping up...
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#1858412 - 08/28/03 08:05 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: comario2]
#1858436 - 08/28/03 08:18 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I like the chamber, comario; The curved top is nice! What is it?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: comario2]
#1858452 - 08/28/03 08:25 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nice chamber dude.
How do you control the temperature, or light for that matter?
I guess you probably don't need too where you live, or your friend lives for that matter, but if you could control it you would be able to fruit ANYTHING in your box. ANYTHING!!!!!
I built this semi-innovative terrarium for my oysters. I'll post a pic if I manage to borrow my friends camera.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Zildjian]
#1858459 - 08/28/03 08:30 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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suntzu: its the infamous "double D tent", from mushmagic
zildjan: wrong, it has both temp & humidity controls, and in fact it works wonders and i do in fact grow whatever i want in it
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: comario2]
#1860317 - 08/28/03 06:15 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thats a hell of a setup, if I could Id invest more money into mine... I just have to keep mine kinda low key. But, had the same thoughts about the computer controlling everything... For those of you who dont know HTML from C++, www.x-10.com has a wide range of supplies for remote lighting, temp control timer/remote for fans... Etc, Etc... Also great for hydroponics... Those HPS lights many people love need to be turned off when those black DEA plane fly over and thermal image your house... Bastards.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: IEatPi314]
#1860323 - 08/28/03 06:16 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sorry for the dubble post, but... Is there any way I could bum a copy of that program? Maybe a 10 day trial, share-ware version?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: IEatPi314]
#1860478 - 08/28/03 07:22 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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sorry, all I can provide is a free test program to evaluate The Box's working condition. the program is also only intended for use with The Box, so there's no real use for it if you don't have the hardware.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: ]
#1861198 - 08/28/03 10:26 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yea, but cleaning it would sure be a bitch.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Osker246]
#1861739 - 08/29/03 02:10 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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why grow more than you need? overkill IMO
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: DanKnugget]
#1861950 - 08/29/03 06:09 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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exactly... my friend said he wanted to be able to swap casings in and out like that. by working that ecosystem deal around those containers, new casings with the same container could be easily plopped in.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: ]
#1861980 - 08/29/03 06:18 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
All of that for those two dinky little casings????? WHAT A WASTE!!!!!!!!!!!
I wouldn't call it a waste. Some people enjoy tinkering with hardware, and by combining two interests, computer control and mycology, they get a lot more enjoyment out of their hobbies. I can understand that.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Diploid]
#1862012 - 08/29/03 06:31 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Diploids got the idea. I really enjoy toying with the electronics end, and then writing software to operate it. I know a good deal about mycology, and although I do not grow myself I have someone test out my system with their grow.
IMO you can do bulk without it looking like bulk, anyhow.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#1867685 - 08/31/03 01:47 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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yea dood unless you redesign the inside of that tank to accomodate a sea of casings rather than just 2
possibly even double layer that tank and grow on 2 levels?
then i think that would top off the l33tness of the design, because with just 2 casings?!?! it seems far from efficient
all else its fucking cool, you should go all fuckin out
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: enacid]
#1867884 - 08/31/03 07:40 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm more interested in the looks, than producing shitloads or packing the area with lots of casings. If I wanted to do that, I'de do this:
But obviously I don't, because that pic is a FOAF's a WHILE ago setup (which is no longer setup). So with the OPTION of doing the above, this aquaintance of mine chose the higher class fish-tank style.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#1869909 - 08/31/03 11:00 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i just finished assembling mine so as soon as i get a digi cam ill post it
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: acidhead1279]
#1878788 - 09/03/03 06:12 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I dont know why anyone would ever use anything but perlite it is just so much easier. Those two closets pictured above could just have a large pan with about two inches of perlite at the bottom I bet it could humidify the whole thing.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: chambers]
#1878843 - 09/03/03 06:34 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those tents leak a lot of air. Plus, you would still need good air circulation.
A loooong time ago, before there were two tents, the single smaller tent had an upper tray. The person with the tent said they tried placing a large tray with perilite in the top of the chamber, but this did not really humidify the whole chamber.
Perilite adds another place for contams to brew. Plus, it does not provide air circulation in itself. If you think about it, the casings inside would give off co2 that falls to the bottom, then escaping through the loosely sealed bottom. This could drag out humidity as well.
The other reason for using an ultrasonic humidifier, was so that the relative humidity inside the chamber could be accurately controlled. Also, the ultrasonic introduces fresh room air into the chamber, whenever it is on.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
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Did you find it a lot more advantageous using the ultrsonic because when fruits started forming you could lower it to the 87%-95% range which is optimal for fruiting? I find with perlite its hard to keep it anything but 99%. You say that the ultrasonic puts fresh air into the chamber when it is on. You dont leave it on all the time? Also, does it have some sort of filtration system to keep contams from entering chamber through the humidifier? I am curious because I am thinking of starting a setup very similar to the one above with the tents and debating on whether to use perlite or not. I thought that If I put a large tray of perlite at the bottom and another maybe midway to the top? that It could probably humidify the whole thing with a air pump next to a hepa that could provide for fresh air exchange. Do you have any suggestions? Oh yeah I can kinda see in that second tent a plastic shelving system that I will probably use from home depot. good durable cheap and plastic I like it
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: chambers]
#1886570 - 09/05/03 07:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Great questions, chambers.
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It is possible to change the humidity level, by entering the desired value into the "condition editor".
The condition editor is a simple user-created program that the control program runs on. It uses simple if-then-else statements and relay control commands, in a style similar to very basic BASIC (the programming language... er, scripting language, er... whatever it is).
The relay control command was designed with regulation in mind. The user specifies the interval the relay command takes, and how long during that interval the relay should be switched.
So, by picking apart the above program, you can understand its workings:
1. If ADC5 (the %RH sensor) is less than 92%, then:
a. Turn on the humidifier for 15 seconds, every 30 seconds. This translates to the humidifier being on for 15 seconds and off for 15 seconds, alternating. This allows the sensor to catch up - a sort of buffer.
(ELSE) 2. Turn off the humidifier for 4.5 minutes every 5 minutes. This translates into the humidifier being off for 4.5 minutes, and then on for 30 seconds. This just keeps the chamber fresh with humid air. (END IF)
3. If the time is between midnight and 6:55am, turn the lights off. Otherwise, turn them on.
This simple program takes care of turning off the lights at night, and keeping the chamber humidified. I'm not satisfied with the way my program handles time-based if statements, but if it ain't broken, why fix it?
Why a relative humidity of 92%? Well, the %RH sensor is wierd. When you blast humid air over it 24/7, condensation accumulates inside the sensor. This makes the sensor read higher than it should. The sensor in question is placed in a small box with desiccant, weekly, to pull out excess humidity.
The setup in question works very well with a setting of 92%. It could be lowered if needed, but whatever.
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Yes, the ultrasonic by itself adds fresh air into the chamber. But, as you can see, the ultrasonic is not on constantly. Simply, the USH's humid air is piped into a constant-airflow line. Take a close look at the humidifier piping in this pic:
That top black thing is a rotary blower. This is on 24/7. It is constantly piping room air into the chamber. Humidity is added into the loop when needed. Also, as you can see at the bottom, the horizontal pipe pulls air from the bottom of the aquarium, to outside.
Carbon dioxide is heavy, so it goes to the bottom of the sealed aquarium. By having this outflow pipe, any air in the bottom (including carbon dioxide) is pulled out of the chamber. The airflow is assisted by the positive pressure from the intake line.
You'll find that with an ultrasonic humidifier, the chamber you use would quickly get saturated with humidity if the humidifier is left on constantly. Some guides (namely the MMGG) reccomend a series of intermediate bottles to take down the level of humidity. This is a waste IMO. Rather, just pipe non-humidified air in, and dynamically add humid air when needed to keep the proper humidity level.
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About filtering and contams... Yes, you should optimally have filters. But an associate of mine had a setup go from January this year, until mid-summer, without any problems. By keeping the outside room clean and well-sealed, there wasn't a need for filtering. Unfortunately, towards the end of his experiments, mushroom flies made their way into the chamber, which was disastrous.
The current test setup (another person's) utilizing this automation, does not have a filter on the humidifier's air intake. It does have a paper towel covering the rotary blower intake, which protects from flies and such. I don't think it is a big risk, as mushroom flies go towards the smell of mushrooms. The intake wouldn't have any smell eminating, so the flies wouldn't go near the intake.
Still, if you want an added layer of protection, you could equip your humidifier with a filter, before the humidity is added. A wise idea is to keep clean conditions outside the chamber, so that no problem arises to start.
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As for perilite... Yes, it does work very well. But with such a large chamber, you should have lots of air circulation to spread that humid air around. You could also theoretically do a two-chamber system, using a smaller chamber for your perilite tray. Just circulate the air from the perilite bin into the larger chamber. This might not work as effectively as an ultrasonic humidifier, though.
The difficulty with perilite is keeping it at the right water level, especially if you lose a lot of air through the tent. An ultrasonic humidifier has an easy-to-fill resevoir that is tapped as it is needed.
As for those (everyone) without an automation setup, I'm sure you could run the ultrasonic 24/7 on low. Letting air escape some around the bottom will ensure humidity doesn't get too high. Hope that helps.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#1886646 - 09/05/03 07:28 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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poke couldnt your friend just put a larger rubbermaid inside instead of 2 little casings?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: ahel]
#1886716 - 09/05/03 07:57 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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He probably could have... hmmmm... You mean, perhaps grind up say 12 cakes and mix well with say 8" substrate, in a bin like one of these?
In fact, I'll reccomend it to him, if he decides to start anything new. I think it would kick ass to take one of those sterilite bins and cut it down to a foot deep, and make a super duper extra large monstrosity of a casing.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#1888086 - 09/06/03 08:13 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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poke, how much would the software and hardware cost for one of these. PM me, serious inquirey.
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poke what was it written in VB or C++ im curious and are you willing to share source?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: buu]
#1890466 - 09/07/03 06:19 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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It is written in Visual Basic 6.0. I won't share the source to my user interface, programming routines, and logging system / log viewer.
I will share source for an ActiveX DLL addin, which contains all of the code necessary to (1) set up a user-configured pinout (expandable), (2) change the state of a relay, and (3) read a value from one of the ADC's inputs.
This means, you can use the source to the ActiveX DLL to code your own routines to use The Box, but you will have to write the code to decide what to do with the sensor readings, and any accessory functions such as keeping and viewing a logfile.
Alternatively, if you're programming in a language that can utilize the ActiveX DLL, you can just use the DLL as a transparent component of your software, to gain access to the basic functions of The Box.
I'll be adding more information to the web site sometime soon. There I'll go into greater detail (with examples and such) on how this is done.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#2556992 - 04/13/04 08:05 PM (8 years, 1 month ago) |
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you can also do all of this stuff with X10 home automation devices. =)
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: mycoguy]
#2828283 - 06/25/04 12:49 PM (7 years, 11 months ago) |
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I haven't seen any X10 humidity or temp sensors though.
I have however made a wireless x10 controller that runs over the parallel port.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#2829294 - 06/25/04 09:25 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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take a look at their weather station addons
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#2829340 - 06/25/04 09:50 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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poke smot! said:
Is that a temp controlled grow with bucket in a bucket incubator style heating?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Gr0wer]
#2830383 - 06/26/04 09:26 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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yeah, it was. It also had humidity and airflow controls.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#2830777 - 06/26/04 11:25 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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You can eliminate the need for a humidity sensor by using a combination wet and dry bulb thermomitor setup. I was not able to find a wireless humidity sensor (I'm a cheap bastard, so weather station stuff was pretty much out), so I used a couple 433MHz of wireless thermo units from walmart.
Since my grow-closet has a fan inside to keep air circulating (humidity will stratify in chambers with lots of vertical space, also a problem in large humidors) I place the two temp sensors in front of it, one wrapped in a bit of cheesecloth that is kept wet in a water resovoir. This kind of sensor works just fine in a condensing environment, unlike most of the reasonably priced digital sensors I find. I calibrated the output against a regular needle type hygrometer to make sure the air was moving quickly enough for the RH calculations to work.
To get the signal to the computer I built an AVR microcontroller based receiver out of the RF module from the wireless base station (the RF board is a seperate module with a 2-wire interface, very easy to use). When a temp reading comes in from one of the three possible sensors (I'm only using two), the microcontroller sends it to the computer over the serial port. I wrote a simple program that keeps the environment in the right range. It runs on an old 486 laptop with a Firecracker X10 transmitter to handle the humidifer, fresh air fan, and the light that provides temp control.
The wireless temp monitors are only $15 bucks at walmart, and I already had all the X10 stuff, so it ended up being pretty cheap. I did have it set up with an X10 cam in the grow chamber, but they are really poor in low light and it seemed really cheesey to make the computer read a screen-shot of an LCD to get the temp 
Here is the receiver for the temp sensor, you can find them at wal-mart, over by the air filters.
Edited by csuidae (06/26/04 03:57 PM)
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Citric]
#2878760 - 07/11/04 03:28 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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thanks domey ive been researching all day and you just answered all my questions with that pic. i like the funnel. and natural sunlight is the best.
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#2879643 - 07/11/04 08:26 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Citric]
#2889506 - 07/14/04 11:23 AM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#2909342 - 07/20/04 03:28 PM (7 years, 10 months ago) |
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Ok, here's our advanced and automated inoculation method:
An agar culture is transferred to a sterilised blender with sterile water.
The blender is turned on and the agar culture is fragmented into tiny particles.
This mycelium broth is diluted over two bottles with sterilise water.
This is the peristaltic pump that will be used to pump to liquid inoculum into the bags. On top is a device we built, ourselves...
...It is a timer with a foot switch, so that the pump will deliver the same amount every time the pedal is pressed
A silicone tube is fitted with a half syringe that is screwed tight. The tube itself is sterilised in the pressure cooker, The bottle with lliquified mycelium is in the flow cabinet, the tube goes into the bottle, then to the pump, then to the needle.
The bags are first soaked with alcohol, and left to stand for a few minutes. They are then wiped dry with a tissue and the needle is introduced. The footpedal is pressed, and presto, 10-100 ml is squirted in.
The bags are sealed with a hotglue gun.
Growth is fast.
The end result, healthy spawn!
I also use this setup to fill tubes with agar for my tissue culture plants.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: comario2]
#2944295 - 07/30/04 10:02 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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wow, that looks like it goes right into the tub, pure genius!
but, how do you take showers?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Una]
#2944510 - 07/30/04 11:11 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Una: Nice tek - thanks for posting.
How many of the bags are you inocultating this way during a day?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: ragadinks]
#2951119 - 08/01/04 05:10 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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>> How many of the bags are you inocultating this way during a day?
We can do about 100 bags in an hour using this method. Contamination is practically down to zero
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#2951230 - 08/01/04 08:05 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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hey poke-smot, i like that setup u posted ...with the labeled casings and the nice looking stackers/shelevs... do tell about the setup more please?!?
maybe list the materials? and were to get them? thanx dude...
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: TripleB]
#2953352 - 08/01/04 06:06 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Most of that is covered in this thread, or elsewhere. Use the search function! I already posted detailed inventories for those tents, no need to post them here.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Una]
#2954889 - 08/02/04 01:03 AM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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> We can do about 100 bags in an hour using this method. Contamination is practically down to zero.
Woow, that sounds good (and very professional) !
How do you sterilize so many bags at once ?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: ragadinks]
#2969496 - 08/05/04 06:15 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Probably an autoclave
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: ragadinks]
#2978829 - 08/08/04 03:51 PM (7 years, 9 months ago) |
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Actually we have three #925 cookers so we could sterilise 30 of these bags in day (that's two batches). If you save them up from a few days you would have a nice batch.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Una]
#5494340 - 04/08/06 06:48 PM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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Geek bump.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#5496422 - 04/09/06 11:26 AM (6 years, 1 month ago) |
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very nice setup you have there poke smot!
however, for me its a matter of very basic math.
extra effort to set it up + me being lazy = fucking forget about it
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I just did a little research and found that you can get mindstorm sensors to monitor these very conditions:
Humidity Sensor - $149.00
http://www.legoeducation.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=380
LEGO-DCP Sensor Adapter - $59.00
http://www.legoeducation.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=380
9-Volt Temperature Sensor - $59.00
http://www.legoeducation.com/store/detail.aspx?KeyWords=temp&by=20&ID=324
It's not cheap, but it could work!
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Yes , but could you get them 3 years ago when this post was made,lol.
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Quote:
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Yes , but could you get them 2 years ago when this post was made,lol.
lmfao sis!~
no doubt!~
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Re: Lego Mindstorm? [Re: Roadkill]
#5993158 - 08/24/06 03:37 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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http://www.shroomery.org/forums/files/080503-46/2747-2bins.jpg
Could you tell me a little bit more about this set-up?
I get the idea of a basic tub in tub incubator but what are you using for airflow? I'm guessing the plumbing elbow has a computer fan attached to it and that the intake but weres the out take and what are you using for humidity?
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#10036716 - 03/24/09 11:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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ive been researching for the last like month religously studying lol i've watched probably a hundred hours or more of videos and read at least like 6 hours a day on here every little bit of info. i can get my hands on well. i noticed you seem to be knowledgable about terrarium set ups i built mine out of an old dresser reinforced it ust a tarp to make it water tight so no water can get to the wood i beveled the tarp on top for condensation run off and mad a kind of reservoir out of the room on the bottom of the dresser i also sealed in two of the bottom rollers so i could put a drawer in. i used tarp to make that water tight with silicone sealant im gonna use that to put my perlite and casings in ive got the bubble stone set up with the air pump mounted outside of the terrarium in a filter box. i used another top to make a flap to cover the front with a plexi window for light to get in and so i could see the little guys growing :-) my question is do you think this should work and i cant seem to get the the temperature up high enough it settles at like 68 degrees when its empty just sitting any suggestions would be welcome.
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i found a post that i thought was legitimate to my question and posted something i'm just looking for advice
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: Peterthinks]
#10042571 - 03/25/09 09:49 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Yea, I really dig this thread, I wish there were more additions to it, even if the thread is really damn old.
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Re: post your advanced setup [Re: poke smot!]
#10047845 - 03/26/09 05:03 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have posted this before but it belongs here more than lost in obscurity on the culti forum underneath loads of "where can i buy perlite" posts.
I put together a quick fruiting chamber the other day with some spare stuff around the house. it is completely automated except for the once a week refill of the humidifier i built.
I made a nice jumbo humidifier with an ultrasonic mister, squirrel cage blower, a bucket, and a couple of airstones (probably not necessary but there in they're so fuck it)
and here is what controls it:
Ive got the lighting hooked up:
and both the lighting and humidifier are on a timer, i have it worked out so my humidity is at 95%+ at all times without any saturation of the substrate:
Here is the spawn almost ready to go. Maybe another 4-5 days and it should be good to go:
It's a bunch of 4qt bags of rye:
Here is a whole bunch of horse shit and a nasty old bong for size reference. probably about 60 lbs if i had to estimate. I'll be spawning to it soon hopefully.
I'll update when there is something new going on. right now it's still the waiting game.
Thanks for looking!
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