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Everyone has to try HBWR seeds.
Best trips I've had in my life, ever  .
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what kinda dosages?
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 Re: HBWR [Re: PDU]
#1846602 - 08/24/03 07:32 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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5 seeds for a first trip. Higher if experienced with the seeds (8 seeds).
I love the strong themes that the trip produces. Unlike any thing else.
You have to have herb with the trip.
ANY TRIPPER HAS TO TRY THESE.
I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THESE SEEDS.
Recommend vendor: Bouncing B
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My first HBWR trip was great, but strangely enough each time I have tried them after that has produced basically no effect besides extreme lethargy and sickness.
The first trip was nice though. Not very Psychedelic, but a very "enlightened" state of mind. Nice body high too.
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ive heard iamshaman, that's where im ordering from.
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Re: HBWR [Re: PDU]
#1846703 - 08/24/03 08:01 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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You have to get true HBWR...
If you get the seeds from Africa or India. You will get just as sick with hardly any psychedelic effect.
HBWR seeds that originate from Hawaii have an intense psychedelic effect (because of higher LSA content).
The trip is very magical...
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Twas used in magic Hawaiian rituals.
Visit the dream world.
We have found pure magic of the human mind.
Now lets use that magic.
Explore the deepness of our human mind.
This drug is legal to get. And is the best trip ever.
When mixing this drug with other psychedelics, it will extremely increase visuals (: 2 seeds).
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I wasn't impressed with HBWR. It had a lot of body load -- which felt distinctly unhealthy -- and didn't have much in the way of visuals. I wanted to get up and move around, but muscle cramping kinda put a nix on that for the most part.
It -would- be nice if it weren't for that body-load.
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Re: HBWR [Re: Sev]
#1846811 - 08/24/03 08:50 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive heard very positive things about iamshamans hbwr in the 8+ prepared seed range.
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Re: HBWR [Re: PDU]
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Sev did you get true Argyreia nervosa?
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I know a good source for the real HBWR, direct from hawaii. PM me.
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They are definatly not something to be taken lightly! They made me decide that I am really going to tone down my drug use and give my mind a little break.
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We'll I rate this up there with mushrooms and pure acid.
On my number #1 list.
People want to hide the fact its the best drug ever. Explore the depths of your mind.
I love the trip. Very unique trip.
The long term side effects are the best part. There in a positive way.
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I've done HBWR 8-10 times and only had one bad trip. All the rest where very mind opening and such good trips.
These seeds are something very magical. The trip teaches you so much. But the intense rolling/tripping euphoria is the ride of the trip.
Best part its pure thinking patterns. You can remember the trip beginning to end.
Its a very social trip with groups up to 10 people.
Visuals only start to happen in high doses (10.5 +).
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Morning glories are nearly inactive when it comes to HBWR.
HBWR is the best drug ever.
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Your vision changes to the theme of the trip. With this strange twist to every thing. You get a tactile body stone with all your nerves in your brain firing as fast as they can. You don't get visuals but you get themes of your inner mind never explored into that area, projecting on your optical nerve.
Feel the rushes with the breezes of Hawaii.
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Quote:
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Sev did you get true Argyreia nervosa?
Yep. Got it from BBB, and checked it by the identification guide online.
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Re: HBWR [Re: ]
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hey walls...how did you prepare the seeds? Did you do any type of extracion?
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Paradis if you eat 3.5 seeds (one 00 sized capsule) an hour before mushroom ingestion. It will increase visuals/effects big time.
Cubieman420 do some research and try to find my flame method.
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Re: HBWR [Re: ]
#1853892 - 08/27/03 01:28 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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So next time I trip on shrooms,if I eat a HBW seed or two it'll increase my visuals?? I dont see how that is if the HBW themselves arent a very visual trip
I have great closed eye visuals on HBWS. Strangely since my first HBW experience my closed eye visuals increased greatly (had a little before since my first shroom trip) when I smoke weed just by itself. It has been a month since my last HBW trip and I still get visuals when I toke.
When you smoke weed on shrooms it really increases the trip, so I imagine that HBW could do the same or possibly farther.
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Re: HBWR [Re: ]
#1854029 - 08/27/03 03:50 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Woodrose are definitely one of the finer entheogens
The same true type is also available from Shaman-australis botanicals
www.shaman-australis.com for those in Australia.
Importing HBWR is completely illegal into australia and customs will bust your arse. If you want to grow your own you need frost free area with summer rainfall - easy once you get into northern NSW and Qld
I find hbwr has a slightly stronger bodyload than LSD particulary eraly on but is otherwise more pleasant, and fewer lasting effects. Phosphenes are nice at night on a moderate dosage.Plenty of erginaceous goodness ;D In a choice between acid and this id take woodrose for its more organic nature
Its common knowledge that HBWR and salvia and HBWR and San pedro are very nice combos too
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Re: HBWR [Re: Mycena]
#1854044 - 08/27/03 04:32 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Us Woodrosers have to unite and tell the world about this seed and its magical effects.
There are Shroomers but now there are Woodrosers  .
Feel the vibe of the magical Hawaiian breeze. 
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Re: HBWR [Re: Xochitl]
#1855709 - 08/27/03 03:57 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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i'll be experiencing some hbwr in the next month or so..any tips on preparing the seeds for ingestion?
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Re: HBWR [Re: dibbles]
#1855906 - 08/27/03 04:56 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Here's a tip: chew them up and swallow.
The outer husk has absolutely nothing bad in it. All the glycosides are in the seed. I've eaten HBWR with and without the husk and it makes no difference, you'll probably feel nauseous either way. In this case, Pepto Bismol is your friend.
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Dibbles, you should peel off the outer layer by hand. Polish seeds with dry cloth. Grind up the seeds into powder. Fill the powder into 00 sized capsules (each cap = 3.5 seeds) and pack very tightly.
Ingest each cap 15 minutes apart.
This the method I always use.
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sweet, will do thanks shifty, hopefully hbwr is all you've hyped it up to be.
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Can you get those at a garden shop or something..?
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Re: HBWR [Re: Snape]
#1856237 - 08/27/03 06:52 PM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wouldn't get them from a garden shop because they spray them with lots of pesticides so people do not eat them. These pesticides can be very toxic to your body.
Just get them from an online vendor (bouncingb), head shop and make sure there untreated with chemicals.
The biggest issue is if the seeds are really HBWR from Hawaii (Argyreia Nervosa). There are some guides only to see if your seeds are really Argyreia Nervosa.
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Is it true that they're really better than LSD? I find that a little hard to beleive, although I HAVE had the best time of my life on those seeds bar none.
Taking 10 seeds is definitely my favorite drug experience ever, nothing else makes a comparison to the pure euphoric experience the seeds provide. Me and my friends would just laugh our asses off all night on a good dose.
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I just grind the seeds up and soak them in about two teaspoons of lemon juice from 2-4 hours. Then mix with a glass of water and drink. Then when the nausea sets in, eat some candied ginger.
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i distintly remember 2 of my hbwr trips but i've had about 6 of them on one my leg crampped up so bad i was writhing in pain on the floor literally almost in tears for around 10 minutes which was so shitty
that was around 20 seeds though
the other is when i was in a beatiful country setting and i walked through the woods and when i got back i made some colored pencil drawings (i don't draw ever at all...) and they were extremely fun to make.
that was on 14 seeds
definately worth a try but don't over do them
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This stuff does not ground you to the earth like mushrooms. You go to space...
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A friend of mine took 5 HBWR, had no trip whatsoever and just vomited and struggled to breathe for 5 hours. Not a lot of fun.
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Re: HBWR [Re: Xlea321]
#1857401 - 08/27/03 11:07 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Alex123 your friend must have got bunk seeds that are not true HBWR.
Bunk seeds still get you as sick. But have way less LSA content.
HBWR tend to give you huge rushes of chemicals that just total peak you out.
I guess this drug is the E-tards saving grace.
My friend Dj Suplex really likes them. He says it has the feeling of peaking on E.
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I bet dealers will start cutting stuff up using HBWR. Because its such a nice hallucinogen to mix with.
Visuals will go insane if you ingest one 00 sized cap (3.5 seeds) before other hallucinogen is ingested.
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Unfortuately, I'm with the few who've had unpleasant experiences with HBWR. On just 4 seeds (and I'm sure they were HBWR), I experienced such nausea and such a heavy body load that I was pretty much miserable until I was finally able to vomit (at about 6 hours in  ) The trip itself was light and quite pleasant - but the body load was simply not worth it... I don't think I've ever wished a trip to 'go away' as much as I did that one.
I may try again one day, but it's hard to say.
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Any of the european based guys know a place in Europe that sells top quality seeds?
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Re: HBWR [Re: Xlea321]
#1859495 - 08/28/03 02:03 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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The only experience I've had is with LSA.. twice.
In the form of morning glory seeds, unfortunately.
The absolute worse part was ingesting the ground seeds, in lemon custard. Which was absolutely horrid, and is enough to make me gag now..
My first trip was kind of pleasant, but I ended up fighting an inner-psychedelic battle to try to conquer 'sleep', so that I could become it.
Not to mention the hangover the day after, which made me feel absolutely depressed, and like total shit. Overall, the 4 grams of morning glory seeds the first time wasn't worth it.
Second time, I used 16 grams.. in which the lemon custard/ground seed was used.
The 'trip' was more of a bodyload with paranoid/color enhancement, and the most visuals I saw were the waving of the walls, and my face turn into a geometric pane.
Besides that, I strugged to sleep for 6+ hours, writhing in bed.. in which the next day I was totally incapacitated, and couldn't discern reality from.. well, reality. I thought everything was a hallucinatino, and I had no clue what was true. The thought 'permatripping' passed through my mind at least once, so did thoughts of suicide. Which, I might add, isn't true to my nature, for the most part.
The residual effects lasted about 5 days, the worst 5 days of my life. And I say that with all sincerity. Being a shell of a person with absolutely no goals, no loves, no hates, no fears, no problems, no fun, no ANYTHING really wears down on you.
Although the experience, in the long run, was more beneficial than anything.. It's not something I'd like to repeat in the same set/setting.
As for favorite 'drug', I'm sticking to Ayahuasca. It teaches me something new each time, and the experience is never less than reality-bending breathtaking psychedelic universal gumbo. Quite visual, too.
Maybe I'll try HBRW sometime.. but I'm not all too fond with my previous LSA experiences.
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Re: HBWR [Re: Xlea321]
#1859591 - 08/28/03 02:30 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: HBWR [Re: Xlea321]
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Quote:
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Any of the european based guys know a place in Europe that sells top quality seeds?
www.maya-ethnobotanicals.com
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Re: HBWR [Re: stefan]
#1861251 - 08/28/03 10:39 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think maya was the place my friend got his seeds from - the ones that made him struggle for breath for hours.
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Re: HBWR [Re: ]
#1863393 - 08/29/03 03:55 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree with paradis somewhat, we should not try to bring to much attention to the HBWS and its magical effects. Tho I do not think it will be as popular as shrooms and others because of the extreme nausea. Unless they find a extract solution that works 100% on eliminating nausea, which would be great because the HBWS trip is a great one. The intense body high and clear thoughts make it one of my favorites.
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Some lab should try to extract %100 LSA out of HBWR and make it very strong and pure LSA. Then there is some possibility of blotter sheets.
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Re: HBWR [Re: ]
#1864419 - 08/29/03 10:46 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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There are extraction methods out there for HBWR seeds. They are not for the feint of heart (read: organic chemistry involved...)
However, allow me to remind you... while HBWR seeds are not controlled, and it is legal to possess them, LSA is a controlled substance. Extraction of LSA from the seeds is, therefore, not a legal act. So I would also caution anyone from pointing to any extraction methods specifically.
But that's just me. I'm in a paranoid mood today
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Re: HBWR [Re: ]
#1865093 - 08/30/03 04:18 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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People getting sickness, lethargy and muscle cramps are you peeling off the fuzzy coating as this is what commonly causes nausea. I have got 8 seeds from www.kingbong.com a while back and am wondering what to do with them whether to try and grow some, take 2 seeds with mushrooms or get a friend and have four each.
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Re: HBWR [Re: iopener]
#1865151 - 08/30/03 05:35 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Warning www.maya-ethnobotanicals.com have bunk HBWR seeds. They come from India..
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Real HBWR have a thick coat of fuzz. They are also very tiny seeds.
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Also very sharp edges.
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Innerexotics.com is the way to go!
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Anyone know if "of the jungle" is still around? They used to sell HBWR real cheap, in huge amounts, sold it like any seed. They used to be the place for alot of stuff years ago, before all the internet vendors came along. They never had a site, just a mailorder service. Have not heard anything about them for a few years.
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I just sent out a money order to innerexotics for 50 seeds, they seem like a very good and friendly dealer based on their emails! I'll tell ya how it goes when I get 'em...
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I have tried seeds from 3 diffrent vendors and with innerexotics I have a better high and less nausea. I would highly recommend them.
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Here is some info courtesy of the Ethnobotanical forum about proper HBWR identification:
http://www.jlhudsonseeds.com/ArgyreiaID.htm
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rt=all&vc=1
With woodrose, you definitely want argyreia nervosa, the real hawaiian baby woodrose seeds. Fresh seeds is a must, as well.
hope this helps
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Xochitl
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Re: HBWR [Re: Xochitl]
#1870105 - 09/01/03 12:16 AM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also, here is a paper on HBWR seeds courtesy of mjshroomer and nansnook.
hope this helps
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Re: HBWR [Re: Xochitl]
#1874232 - 09/02/03 12:31 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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how much are the seeds on Innerexotics.com?
and how many should I take for a decent trip?
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Re: HBWR [Re: Xlea321]
#1874309 - 09/02/03 12:51 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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i had the same problem on lots of morning glory seeds as yur freind, it felt like my lungs no longer existed and i couldnt tell if i was breathing or not and i completely freaked out it sucked
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HBWR are pretty fun
i still dont think they compare to a strong dose of lsd though
and im positive it was Argyreia nervosa (sp)
HBWR is an airplane flight, LSD is a fuckin rocket
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Edited by Xochitl (09/13/03 01:39 AM)
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Re: HBWR [Re: Xochitl]
#1875249 - 09/02/03 05:40 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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They might not be as strong as LSD. But the depth of the trip is way, way deeper. HBWR just has something to it. That is what makes it much more magical.
It is the master of insight in my books.
The trip goes very deep into the mind.
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Mushrooms = Earth | HBWR = Universe
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one of my friends dosed 5 of the same seeds i tripped off of....he felt effects...but his windpipe got swollen up and he had a hard time breathing
HWBR is cool, the feelings of hawaiin breezes mixed with saunas and relaxing places just fill the mind....its like your experiancing ever good feeling youve ever had
but jesus christ the body load is terrible...i got so tired climbin up one set of stairs
HBWR is the kind of drug where you just sit down and enjoy the effects...its kinda hard to sit down for 6-10 hours though
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I have found that if you get up after the first hour and a half or so, the body load goes away. Sometimes it's almost like your mind concentrates deeply on whatever you focus on in that moment, and then 2 minutes later you completely forget you even were thinking about it. At least that's my experince with it.
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For the muscle tension and cramps, I'de consider a muscle relaxer if it is available. I'm sure people who have tried LSA (not me) would agree, as it seems like it would help a lot with tension of that sort.
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The cramps are part of the trip.
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well, maybe muscles are useless when you can travel wit the mind, ever thought of it that way, from what i hear you can have way more fun just closing your eyes than walking on HBWR.
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Running on HBWR is the funniest thing you could do in your whole life.
Get rid of cramps : Run or go for a walk for awhile.
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when you say part of the trip, do you mean they are part of the trip like how I sometimes see 2d triangular geometrical patterns (personalized) or how I sometimes see intensified colors (characteristic of everyones trip)?
Plus, you say that with determinism as if there's no way getting out of them, but IME I get jittery when coming up, however don't get these jitters so much when taking a muscle relaxer.
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Jitters will only happen on doses higher then 5 seeds.
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The only time I had to run while I was on HBWR when a friend thought it was a good idea to do 25 for his first time. We thought he was gonna die. He was puking all over the place, wasn't making any sense, saying he was gonna be dead soon etc, so I had to run to his house to make sure he was okay (once we got him there in one piece, and after everything was cleaned up, god forbid if something happened). Worst. Experience. Ever.
On the other hand, max I've done is 22, but that was after tripping pretty close together so the tolerance came into play. It was still the craziest trip of my life, though. You'll eventually work your way up but beware.
I haven't gotten any jitters at all.. or the robo-itch for that matter. 
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Daaaaamn, 22 seeds! Better yes 25 seeds!?!?! What was your friend thinking? Why did you let him go ahead with that dosage? The max I've done is 11 and that blew my mind 100x more than shrooms.
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Ya, I did a 14 seed dose. That was the most insane complex hardcore trip in my life.
I like 10.5 seeds (3 "00" caps). I think caps make the the seeds work much better by %30. So you do not need as much.
I have had good mini trips off 1 capsule.
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You just totally peak out on high doses. 
That magic just peaks you out.
Your 5-HT levels go insanely high in your brain when you take HBWR. Even more then MDMA.
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hi i was just wondering , if you order like 200 seed for like 30$ (that sound so fucking cheap ) and say it must be eaten still fresh how the fuck can you keep like 180 seed fresh for a while lol...
and any link or important info on them?
like resistance, after effect,side effect, nociveness...
thanks in advance.
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Seeds are usually kept fresh and viable by picking them from the pods in-season and heavily vaccumed-sealing them. They are then stored in tight mason jars with a decicant and refridgerated. This method prevents moisture and oxygen from degrading seeds and is, in effect, a method for maximum preservation.
However, there are several reports of seeds remaining viable for years under no special preservation (i.e. plastic baggy in the ol' sock drawer).
Hope this helps
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Re: HBWR [Re: Xochitl]
#1898886 - 09/09/03 03:08 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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thanks that is a start
any other good info or link?
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Xochitl
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in regards to what? just general seed preservation?
If you are looking for information on argyreia nervosa in general, check erowid or the shroomery search engine. There is a plethora of information readily available.
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Re: HBWR [Re: Xochitl]
#1899635 - 09/09/03 05:36 PM (8 years, 8 months ago) |
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I have had open eye visuals on as little as 7 HBWR seeds. Smoking some herb is a great way to get the visuals to kick in.
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theshiftingwalls
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Ya, bluedolphin knows his stuff. Weed and the seeds are like. Ying and the Yang.
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Yeah when i took em i simpply got incledible euphoria untill i smoke a little bud and got some size distortion, sights of extreme detail and some wavyness. But it also wore off with the weed, its almost as if they were ment to go together, im defenetly smoking more bud next time.
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Hell, I blaze 3 joints of high grade bud during a woodrose trip .
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Spokesman
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Thats probabbly why you have such a good time on it, lol, i wish i was able to smoke more but my friend doesent smoke and i felt uncomftorble smoking around him so i just hit the boul once, and it felt great next time im smoking a blunt, sit back and enjoy the ride!
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Well tell your friend that your going to the forest for the night  .
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