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madgenious said:
I currently have 10 large bags of vermiculite, 25 bricks of coir and 5 big blocks of peat moss and a huge bag of agricultural lime. 

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madgenious said:
Im looking for a good subtstrate for bulk growing in a monotub tek... 106qt all clear plastic tub with colonized organic rye berries.  I currently have 10 large bags of vermiculite, 25 bricks of coir and 5 big blocks of peat moss and a huge bag of agricultural lime.  i am ready to go i just need a recommended substrate mixture.

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OK. Here we go. I have a substrate calculator website for you. Go to it. Your ratio should be 4 to 1. Input your info and it will give you a precise equation.

http://substratecalculator.info/#

Secondly- We DON'T use agricultural lime. That's for long term ph. Use PICKLING LIME. That's for quick, short term ph. Here's RR's take on that.

" What you want is a short term (Hydrated Lime) because the life of a casing is measured in weeks instead of months or years. Use hydrated lime to get the ph right at the start, and use gypsum at a rate of ten percent to the peat in your casing to prevent ph swings later. Pickling lime is hydrated lime. It's my favorite, and many commercial grow operations DO use it. Don't use limestone; limestone is for long- term use, such as in a garden. Casings, which flush for a month or so, do not need long-term ph adjustment. They need short term, therefore hydrated lime is what you would want to use."

Hope this helps.

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madgenious said:
Im looking for a good subtstrate for bulk growing in a monotub tek... 106qt all clear plastic tub with colonized organic rye berries.  I currently have 10 large bags of vermiculite, 25 bricks of coir and 5 big blocks of peat moss and a huge bag of agricultural lime.  i am ready to go i just need a recommended substrate mixture.

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My simple coir/verm prep. (Tko, ya beat me to it!)

I never bother with exact measurements.

One brick coir, two quarts verm, handful of gypsum, 5 quarts water

A substrate calculator is such a waste of time.

My recipe should provide plenty to hit the 3-4" mark when spawned to in your tub.

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madgenious said:
I currently have 10 large bags of vermiculite, 25 bricks of coir and 5 big blocks of peat moss and a huge bag of agricultural lime. 

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Wow what is this. .Breaking Bad for spores?

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I buy my coir 90 bricks at a time, my verm in 4 cubic foot bags.  The lime and peat though, I don't often use them.

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I never bother with exact measurements.

One brick coir, two quarts verm, handful of gypsum, 5 quarts water

A substrate calculator is such a waste of time.

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tko said:
dont use bucket tek use franks. if you got the coir from a hydro store it could have trich added...not sure if itd say on package if it is..

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Trichoderma? Added? Why in hell would they add TRICH to coco-coir? SURE, let's ADD green mold to a inert material....doofus.

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tko said:
your a fucking dumbass type it in the search bar fuck...its too early to be listening to ignorant bitches such as yourself.

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You don't know me dude. And apparently, you don't know yourself. If I were you, I would go to some anger management classes. Or get off the meth. Your choice.

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hyperjump69 said:
Mushrooms are not plants. Not once have I bought a brick of coir and seen trich listed on the label. The only ingredient I've seen in coco-coir is COCONUT FIBER...
Also, with pastuerization doesn't that kill the trich anyway?

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Of course mushrooms are not plants, I was simply telling you why they add trich spores to coir. Coir that is intended for growing plants sometimes has trich spores added. You'll never see them in reptile bedding though, which is what I use exclusively for my coir.

I've never used coir that has trich in it but I've seen it and it is out there.

And pasteurizing does kill the spores, but some people don't like to risk it with the faux-pasteurization bucket tek.  So I recommend to everyone to pasteurize their substrates properly regardless of the contents, and then you don't have to worry about it.

Chill guys, we're just having a conversation here

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Chill, we're just having a conversation here

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Maybe someone should tell TKO that. Instead of insulting people. I don't know everything but I know bullshit when it's thrown at me. And insults.

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FrankHorrigan said:
Chill guys, we're just having a conversation here

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You must be sitting here watching this thread closely, because I added "guys" to that statement about 20 seconds after I originally posted it

I hope I've answered the OP as well as your questions here.

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Mr.Cue said:
Measuring may be important at first, but after you have done a few bulks you just get a feel for it.

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And that, my children, is why I posted what I posted. The OP only has 10 posts and asked a legit question about sub. I answered as best I could. I only buy coir from a pet store so it doesn't have trich added.
When I was a noob jus starting I wished someone would have posted a sub calculator when I had a question. I guess when you have a ton of grows under your belt it's easy to assume everyone else is at your level. But- to each his own.

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madgenious said:  The most frustrating thing is all the contradictions ive seen people saying use this or dont use this.

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That is why there is the TC tag.

When doing searches in the search bar, I usually try to put a "Newer than 2 years" filter on it, and give extra attention to TCs and established members.