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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: joshisstoned]
#17940457 - 03/11/13 07:28 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/355098#355098

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: cronicr]
#17940509 - 03/11/13 07:36 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

haha. thanks for the post. hope it doesnt just tap out! this jar has obviously been through alot i want it to fully colonize. there is a big slime collection at the bottom but it just looks like metabolites because there used to be mycelium there but the water from the plant and slime started to seep down there. I think its going to make it though! so if it does, ill keep you guys updated

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: LuCiDninja]
#17941318 - 03/11/13 10:09 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

:smbfacepalm:

That jar is fucked, friend :shake:

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: LuCiDninja]
#17942099 - 03/12/13 01:05 AM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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LuCiDninja said:
Somehow the grass sprouts generated more water than usual because they grew. Now there is a fuck ton of metabolites at the bottom of the jar. No contams tho. The most interesting thing is theres a big purple looking alkaloid stain near the top in one of my pics.

Sorry bud, but that's almost the exact definition of a contam. The alkaloids never just ooze out...

Also, just because it has white mycelium in the jar doesn't mean it's the myc your trying to grow. Many types of fungi have white mycelium. I would guess the myc in your jar is a contam as well.

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

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#17943879 - 03/12/13 01:11 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

i know the jar is in a pretty fucked up predicament and might have a contam but im going to still let nature take control of this jar. If success is had from this jar I will be sure to let everyone know. I'll be using it as a learning tool since its such an oddball scenario

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: LuCiDninja]
#17943997 - 03/12/13 01:48 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

welp!

:shrug:

keep us updated! I'm interested in seeing what will fruit once the jars are 100% ~~contaminated~~ colonized.

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]

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#17944333 - 03/12/13 03:07 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

It will be interesting to see how this contam, I mean, jar turns out.

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: LuCiDninja]
#17944450 - 03/12/13 03:28 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

okay okay, on a serious note; LuCiDninja, what are the specs on your jar preparation, that is, did you pressure cook 90mins/15psi? why the ziplocks? check the sealing on them...consider mason jars on your next attempt...

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: MonkeyJesusFresco]
#17949080 - 03/13/13 01:51 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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MonkeyJesusFresco said:
okay okay, on a serious note; LuCiDninja, what are the specs on your jar preparation, that is, did you pressure cook 90mins/15psi? why the ziplocks? check the sealing on them...consider mason jars on your next attempt...

I dont usually PC for 90 minutes, that would get kinda costly for electricity. I always PC my jars for 60 mins at 15psi and its worked.

I'm trying out ziplocks because I feel like the jar could be reusable and they are better at controlling the water inside the jar. (except in this scenario because the nasty grass produced extra water) but when i use mason jars sometimes the inoculant gets extra wet towards the bottoms so I decided to try these ziplocks. since you can manipulate the jar easier, that water pooling problem doesnt happen in the ziplocks. Also, i dont have to pull out my drill anymore for jar prep. All i need is my soldering iron to poke some holes in the jars.

basically tried something new and something new (and retarded) happened
so im going to test it and hopefully have the jar fully colonize.

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: LuCiDninja]
#17960406 - 03/15/13 01:17 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Update?

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Lets get rid of the SWIM shit, This also goes for my dog, someones pet ferret, and any other way of saying you are not really you.
Its bullshit and we all know it. Man up and admit you are the SWIM. :2cents:

:2cents:

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: shroom-a-zoom]
#17962576 - 03/15/13 10:29 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

No contams. Colonizing slowly, about 75 percent of the way through. Less metabolites too. Meaning most of the grass has been killed and colonized over. Just waiting for that bottom to colonize if it does. It might not because of that water that was produced by the cellular respiration of grass. I might take the colonized 75% and spawn it soon if the bottom is too wet/ metabolites galore

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: LuCiDninja]
#17975885 - 03/18/13 07:04 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

Ill stick around to see what happens. :popcorn:

:popcorn:

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:imo:

:imo:

Lets get rid of the SWIM shit, This also goes for my dog, someones pet ferret, and any other way of saying you are not really you.
Its bullshit and we all know it. Man up and admit you are the SWIM. :2cents:

:2cents:

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: LuCiDninja]
#17976242 - 03/18/13 08:11 PM (11 years, 1 month ago)

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LuCiDninja said:
Quote:

MonkeyJesusFresco said:
okay okay, on a serious note; LuCiDninja, what are the specs on your jar preparation, that is, did you pressure cook 90mins/15psi? why the ziplocks? check the sealing on them...consider mason jars on your next attempt...

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LuCiDninja said:
I dont usually PC for 90 minutes, that would get kinda costly for electricity. I always PC my jars for 60 mins at 15psi and its worked.

Till now, you really should ride the extra 30min on your PC times. costly in electricity? I run 4-6 cycles a week in my 23qt PC and my bills gone up maybe 10$ a month ?

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LuCiDninja said:
I'm trying out ziplocks because I feel like the jar could be reusable and they are better at controlling the water inside the jar.
(except in this scenario because the nasty grass produced extra water)

The water inside your jar should be controlled by the process in which you prep your grains prior to PCing. I notice if i rush the post boil part of my grain prep i end up with a little excess moisture that easily gets manipulated back into my grains with a few shakings.

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LuCiDninja said:
but when i use mason jars sometimes the inoculant gets extra wet towards the bottoms so I decided to try these ziplocks. since you can manipulate the jar easier, that water pooling problem doesnt happen in the ziplocks.

The inoculate is a h2o/spore solution. No matter what jar you use its gonna be the same. Unless your talking about the grain (spawn).

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LuCiDninja said:
Also, i dont have to pull out my drill anymore for jar prep. All i need is my soldering iron to poke some holes in the jars.

Either method is a one shot. Do it and its done forever.

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LuCiDninja said:
basically tried something new and something new (and retarded) happened
so im going to test it and hopefully have the jar fully colonize.

All this aside im curious if your mycelium will win keep posting.

Im not banging on your containers, just iterating the fact that glass jars aren't your issue.

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: MoGrow]
#17978898 - 03/19/13 11:09 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

thanks for the tips bro. and its still around 75%, with the wet bottom not colonizing, im considering just spawning it to see what will happen, still no visible contams so im just going to spawn the top 75% of the jar

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FrankHorrigan
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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

[Re: LuCiDninja]
#17978910 - 03/19/13 11:11 AM (11 years, 30 days ago)

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LuCiDninja said:
thanks for the tips bro. and its still around 75%, with the wet bottom not colonizing, im considering just spawning it to see what will happen, still no visible contams so im just going to spawn the top 75% of the jar

It's definitely bacteria-laden.
That bacteria will cover everything in there when you go to spawn even the top.

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

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#17979353 - 03/19/13 01:08 PM (11 years, 30 days ago)

i believe you bro, i only paid 97 cents for the 6qt shoeboxes and im just going to try and fruit it isolated just for a learning experience because this has never happened to me and i didnt see anything about it on the forums. if it does work, which it probably won't, at least ill learn a bit. i'll post again if it was a success or failure

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

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#18013369 - 03/26/13 10:40 AM (11 years, 23 days ago)

update, about 80% colonized, less metabolites. No apparent contams but there could be due to the grass. probably going to spawn it to the 6 qt tub and see what happens!

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

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#18013389 - 03/26/13 10:48 AM (11 years, 23 days ago)

Thanks for the update! make sure to keep waiting till 100% if you spawn at 80% you'll almost definitely get contams

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

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#18013412 - 03/26/13 10:57 AM (11 years, 23 days ago)

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shit, when its colonized, IF it colonizes, just plant it outside.

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Re: B+ mycellium vs fully sprouted grass seeds w/ pics (more alkaloids?)

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#18013506 - 03/26/13 11:25 AM (11 years, 23 days ago)

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slapphappypill said:
Thanks for the update! make sure to keep waiting till 100% if you spawn at 80% you'll almost definitely get contams

welcome! and what if i leave the bottom 20% in the jar and not spawn anything uncolonized? its a thick woven white mat of mycelium eating the grass but im not sure if it will be able to colonize the bottom with all those metabolites from killing the grass. what do you think?

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