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 Magash
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Awsome glad you like it. Cool pics you have there to.
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 Freedom420
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 Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Magash]
#1745911 - 07/24/03 07:06 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Lo All, I'm basicly a beginner, I realize this thread is very long. I'm hoping some one will see my post...This looks like a great idea, and of course it must be for this many folks to post good results....
Althoug i'm still a little confussed. I'm don't know what geolite is, but see you can use perlite instead. Now to what i'm confused about. If one was to use perlite instead of geolite, would one but the air stones on the bottom and cover with wet perlite? And if so do you put the cakes on the lids or somthing? It seems to me by the pics that there is much more water in there then that(if this right what keeps the cakes from sinking into the water and perlite or geolite, if that is what one used? I hope this has made since...If not, let me know and i'll try to clear my question. Thanks a lot.
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Magash
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"don't know what geolite is" It is clay balls that are used in hydroponics. They can be found at hydro shops. For this use they are much easier to use but can be costly compared to perlite. In the long run it costs less cause it can be reused.
"would one but the air stones on the bottom and cover with wet perlite?"
Yes. Just make the water layer deeper.
With perlite it's better to use lids with the geolite you can put he cakes right on it.
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hyper_dermic
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Magash]
#1746133 - 07/24/03 08:31 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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OK so heres an update on my pod.....
i find the air exchange to be inadequate for caseings.... due to the fact that casings do not rest directly on the geolite.....
(they are in buckets or tubs some several inches from the bottem)
tho the humidity is consistant, and the geolite roxxors (no more perlite sticking to EVERYTHING)
So, in order to make up for this lack of oxygen, ive decided to install ANOTHER double fish pump, this time instead of buying diffuser rods (im too cheap) i will be using plastic sheets taped up into tubes, with little pin holes poked in it....
i will have these bags on the top of the chamber blowing fresh air DOWN onto my casings! yay!!!
(BTW i stole this idea from Una (mush-mush).... i will be doing pan cyans soon, so i need Uber air exchange..... and cubies dont mind it either  )
ill let ya know how it works out....
[hyp]
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hyper_dermic
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ya kno, i just realised somethin, you dont even NEED those air diffuser rods.... (bubbly air sticks/bubble wands whatever)
all ya gotta do is plug up the airline tubeing and poke little holes in it....
yay
i just saved myself another 10$
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MrSleep
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My friend had a set up that originally had just perlite and an air tube going under the perlite to stir up the perlite/water for more humidification and air flow. But then he found an air diffuser and put that it in. He says the results seem the same, but thinks they would be much better with geolite.
-Mr.Sleep
Edited by MrSleep (07/26/03 08:10 AM)
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World Spirit
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Magash]
#1750433 - 07/26/03 08:57 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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BatFly
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hey, you just gave me a good idea. run tubing off of 2 pumps. make them go along the bottom in 's' formation, like swaying snakes, with a bunch of tiny holes! alot more even flow of air, and the 2 pumps could hurt! hmmmmmmm, i like our thinking!
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: BatFly]
#1750722 - 07/26/03 11:54 AM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmmm...I don't think it'd be any more even, probably less even. Since the two diffusers make a curtain of air that are paralell to each other, and they aren't just shooting air up straight out of those tubes, it's spreading out all along the surface of the geolite. From what I understand.
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hyper_dermic
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: BatFly]
#1755161 - 07/28/03 04:18 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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i just use a "double fish pump"....
im gonna use 2 of them very soon.... one with the air diffusers in the bottem, and one with the tubing in the top...
i want to use the tubing for the top so i can adjust its height as needed.... i can lower it and raise it as the mushys grow....
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: MrSleep]
#1755934 - 07/28/03 10:27 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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well, now that i reread my post, i would like to rephrase, it'd make for greater air dispertion over a larger area undrr teh perlite instead of just around the bubble wands.
sorry, you were right.
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: BatFly]
#1755943 - 07/28/03 10:29 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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S'all good, yeah I see what you're saying.
-Mr.Sleep
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 Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Magash]
#1759176 - 07/29/03 08:01 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Last night, I decided to setup a pod similar to this. Having been accused of "making things up" after requesting geolite at the store, I purchased a bag of perlite and a hygrometer. For the sake of curiosity (and still having at least a week until cakes can be birthed), I setup the pod absent of either perlite or geolite.
Instead, I filled the bottom with 5 inches of plain water. At the bottom of the pod are two of the round air-stones, rather than those air-stone rods. This pod is round and deep, made from two cake lids, the dome type (the sort you find at a bakery). My hygrometer read 88% after an hour. 99% was observed the following morning, with a small amount of condesation on the walls of the pod.
Assuming this reading to be correct, I decided I would install a low-sitting suspended wire shelf on which to place the cakes. Being absent of perlite, the water would not evaporate quite so quickly, and therefore this pod would be more tolerant of neglect. I am leaving town for seventeen days come August 8th. I will not be present to replenish exhausted perlite. Mycellium permitting, I will birth cakes into the pod on Aug 7. They will not be tended to until Aug 25. Is perlite absolutely necessary? Can it be prepared in such a way that it will continue to offer humidity for seventeen days?
Being new to this whole ordeal, and having observed FAQ's and threads, it seems that perlite or geolite are thought of as somewhat essential. How true is this? Is my hygrometer miscalibrated?
Also, the two dome lids I'm using certainly are not air tight. I assumed this would be fine, as it allows gas to escape. Reading through this thread, though, it's been said that air is best ventilated through the top of the pod. Should I re-evaluate my entire approach, discard the dome lids and acquire a sealable square tupperware container? A container of this sort would not be condusive to my living space requirements.
Any and all thoughts appreciated.
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hyper_dermic
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Re: Poor mans pod. [Re: Ped]
#1765377 - 07/31/03 06:39 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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i think your better off with perlite or geolite/hydroton/hydrokorrels than just water, the perlite/geolite puts out alot more humidity....
dont worry about having to re-wet the perlite/geolite, i think ive re-plenished my water once every 2 months, and i could have easily have gone 3 months....
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hyper_dermic
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Quote:
I saw your links on the first page to get the air thingy underneath the geolite, but when I clicked on the link it looks nothing like what's in your pics. What is the whole tubing piece called w/the "air stones"? Can someone put up a link to get this product exactly as-is?
dude...
airline tubing is just that AIR, LINE, TUBING, its a plastic tube, that air flows through.
the "air-stones" are not what u want, you want a "flexible air diffuser" or a "bubble wand" or a "bubble curtain"
its the stick that sits on the bottem of the pod....
i dont have the links,
just go to a pet store and figure it out...
simple as pie...
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Skaloser
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...damn airstones don't work? i bought 2 and already have it set up waiting to birth my jars...
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I was riding its back
when it used to ride me.
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Re: Poor mans Pod [Re: Magash]
#1765833 - 07/31/03 10:37 AM (8 years, 9 months ago) |
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Kwhat Is that brown ball substrate Your usiNG!?
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botanisthype
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you wouldnt need to spray .wiTh this method right?
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Please +REP if i've been of any help... thanks!!!
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Magash
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No spraying needed.
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