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Frank's Simple Coir/Verm Tek * 8
    #17325780 - 12/03/12 12:06 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

This is part of my series on how I get things done. I hope it helps!

This is the simplest substrate recipe I use. It is very effective, so for those just trying their hand at bulk, it's a good place to start :thumbup:

I always find myself coming back to coir/verm/gypsum properly pasteurized.

Coir does not germinate mold spores. So you can get away with sterilizing this recipe or using the bucket tek as well.

However, I will be preparing the coir for proper pasteurization in this thread.

This recipe makes about 9-12 quarts of hydrated substrate, depending on the coir brick and how much verm you use.

You will need:
One brick of coir
1-3 quarts of verm (your preference)
4.5-5.5 quarts of water
Handful of gypsum (pelletized is fine)

You'll start with a brick of coir and a five gallon bucket.


Dump 1-3 quarts of verm in your bucket over the coir brick (sorry about the "dusty" picture, I was in a hurry)


Measure out how much water you will need. For the coir brick I measure out 4 quarts. For each quart of verm, I add an additional half quart. IME a quart of verm holds about a half quart of water at field capacity.

I prefer to use one brick of coir and two quarts of verm, so I measured out 5 quarts of water for this substrate. Use warm or room temp water.


Pour the water over the coir brick, close the bucket. Let it hydrate for a half an hour to an hour, or until your coir brick is fully expanded.


Get in there and mix it up really good, breaking up any chunks of coir that remain.


Press the substrate down into a block on the bottom of the tub. Press it firmly, all over. Mix it up again and repeat a couple times. This helps evenly distribute the moisture.


Test for field capacity by squeezing a handful and looking for a dozen or so drops of water to run out of it. If you squeeze harder you should see a stream of water flow out and taper off to nothing.


If it's too wet, add another half quart of verm and compress/break up the substrate a few more times to distribute the moisture.

If it's too dry, add another 1/2 cup to a full cup of water.  Start on the low side of things, a little bit can go a long way. Compress/break up the substrate a few times to distribute the moisture.

After perfect moisture content is achieved, throw a handful of gypsum into the substrate and mix it in. 


If using bags, just load the bag up with the substrate and proceed to pasteurizing the substrate :thumbup:


If you want to use jars to pasteurize (RR-style), here's what to do.


First, load the jars with substrate. A spoon keeps things from getting too messy.


I load it full, then pack it a down by tapping the bottom of the jar on the floor a couple times. Don't pack it down by hand or pack it very tightly.

There will be extra space now, so load it up full and give it one more tap on the ground. Your jar should be full to about a half inch from the top.


Tear foil strips about 6 inches wide and fold it in half to make a square.


Place these squares over the tops of the jars. These will act as lids for the pasteurization. Press them down firmly around the mouth of the jar, add a ring around the outside to trap the foil.


Time to pasteurize!

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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #17764221 - 02/07/13 10:42 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

updated the OP, realized i still need pictures. will snap those this weekend :thumbup:


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #17764253 - 02/07/13 10:50 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

:thumbup:

Lookin good.


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: SpitballJedi]
    #17764258 - 02/07/13 10:51 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Quote:

SpitballJedi said:
:thumbup:

Lookin good.




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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: Deadkndys420]
    #17795398 - 02/13/13 03:31 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Thanks! This is just what I was looking for!


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: Sma11mau5]
    #17830500 - 02/19/13 03:56 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

Good write up. About to try this tomorrow! :smile:


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: FalseMaria]
    #17842384 - 02/21/13 05:27 PM (1 year, 8 months ago)

:thanx:
Please let us know how it works for you!

I updated the OP today, got my pictures added (finally!) and modified a small part about packing the substrate into the jars.


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #17905325 - 03/04/13 11:05 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

do you pasturize the same length as you do with your sub then?


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: odbsmydog]
    #17909611 - 03/05/13 09:03 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

Almost 6 days after spawning. Colonizing nicely. No sign of green :smile:


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: FalseMaria]
    #17910104 - 03/05/13 10:32 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I use this Tek.......my favorite part is using the foil as lids on ALL the jars. (I use to just have my temp-probe jar foiled)  For me it's easier to throw away foil after you're all done than it is to wash lids.


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: Vire] * 1
    #17910114 - 03/05/13 10:34 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I just keep using the same foil over and over again.


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: SpitballJedi] * 1
    #17915271 - 03/06/13 09:31 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

^ AUSTERITY MEASURE IN FULL EFFECT YO!


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: FalseMaria]
    #17942600 - 03/12/13 08:09 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

:laugh2:
I agree SJ, I use that shit til it disintegrates.

I updated the OP, according to RR less gypsum is just as good as a lot, so I'm erring on the conservative side.
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3% [gypsum] by weight is plenty.  That is dry weight to dry weight.  In other words, a small handful is plenty for a brick of coir.  More doesn't hurt, but doesn't help either.  I've cut back by about 90% over the years on the amount of gypsum with no loss in performance.
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Edited by FrankHorrigan (03/12/13 08:59 AM)


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #17942964 - 03/12/13 10:52 AM (1 year, 7 months ago)

You could put the coir brick/verm in a mesh laundry bag (they sell for $5) then after the 90 pasteurization period, just tie the bag up to a ceiling hook and let the excess water drip out for about a half hour to 45 minutes.

The bucket tek is the best means for pasteurization but as for making sure its 100% feild capacity, laundry bags are great.

Nice follow up write up though.


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: HybridprX]
    #17948519 - 03/13/13 01:35 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

is there anyway this can be done with out a PC i just dont wanna buy one yet


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: magic7eraser]
    #17948523 - 03/13/13 01:36 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

he just used the pc as a big pot...get a pc already lol there your best friend!


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: cronicr]
    #17948531 - 03/13/13 01:38 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

lol i know i know i just dont have a big enough work area to put everything in


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: magic7eraser]
    #17948577 - 03/13/13 01:48 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

I thought the same thing.  I managed to fit all my shit in a pretty small area.  If you can figure out a place for it, you wont be limited to just cakes.  Bulk is more fun in my opinion


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: magic7eraser]
    #17948724 - 03/13/13 02:27 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

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is there anyway this can be done with out a PC i just dont wanna buy one yet




I only use the PC as a big ass pot to pasteurize in. You can use any stockpot that you have or can find, just make sure it can hold a decent amount of quart jars :awesomenod:


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Re: Frank's Simple Coir Prep [Re: FrankHorrigan]
    #17948988 - 03/13/13 03:35 PM (1 year, 7 months ago)

why do you pasteurize in jars and not a pillow case?


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"We obey people we don't trust, to buy things we don't need, to impress people we don't like, using money we don't have, for gratifications that don't last, killing animals we don't hate, for pleasures that don't satisfy, dreaming of a life we don't deserve, and praying for an afterlife that doesn't exist, we are a stupid species"


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