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Anonymous
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Registered: 06/02/03
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YellowPurpleHills said:
yes yes, you speak like a scientist
i can speak like that too, but i am just talking from experience with people
Science is based on what is observable, and thus based on experience. Don't give me bullshit that experience is more valuable than science, or what I read in medical journals, or pharmacology textbooks. Your anecdotal reports are useless compared to the thousands of facts that have been accumulated about anticholinergics by medical and pharmaceutical professionals over the years. Just because your friends have used Coricidin and haven't been seriously harmed by it, doesn't mean that it's safe. It also certainly does not mean that it's the safest way possible. The experience of your friends adds up to nothing.
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I know plenty of people who have done this safely, many times.
Wrong. You may know plenty of people who have done this without harming themselves, but I doubt that you have any clue about the safety of the drugs in question.
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plus, it doesn't matter what drug you eat cuz you shouldn't eat any drugs, they are not healthy.
Since people here know that taking psychedelic drugs is medically unnecessary, and involves risks, usually they want information that will help them minimize the risks. Taking an additional drug, which is also medically unnecessary; doesn't contribute to the desired effects; and may substantially increase the risks, is exactly the kind of thing that people on these forums want to avoid. Most people on these forums don't think that it doesn't matter whether or not they take drugs safely or unsafely. Most people here want to take drugs as safely as possible. Advising people to take Coricidin is, in fact, needlessly advising people to increase the risks associated with their recreational drug use. If you are not concerned with someone else's safety, you should at least consider the fact that usually people are concerned with their own safety. Which means that you shouldn't make bullshit claims. Fortunately, the majority of people here are bright enough to realize that simply because one poster's friends haven't seriously harmed themselves from a certain drug, doesn't mean that the drug is generally safe. People here trust science more than they trust babbling morons like yourself who vaugely suggest that anecdotal reports which lack the observation of harmful effects outweigh scientific evidence carefully gathered by professionals.
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That's why most are controlled by the government.
Anticholinergic drugs aren't seriously restricted because the abuse potential for these drugs is considered minimal. Most people consider drugs like Datura, Diphenhydramine, and Chlorpheniramine to be the worst of the worst. In general, the government doesn't have to worry about 20% of it's population turning into raving Chlorpheniramine addicts, because the drug sucks, and has a nasty side effects profile.
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Cracka_X
Spiritual Dirt Worshipper
 
Registered: 01/25/03
Posts: 8,365
Loc: Here
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 Re: I got a question about DXM  [Re: Galactica]
#1717114 - 07/15/03 01:52 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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FUCK ROBOTRIPPING. It's not even FUN fucked up. You can't think or hold a thought for more an a couple seconds. Walking is completely fucked,which was kinda cool. BUT the whole trip itself is DUMB. Do something better with your life than waste a day with the utmost mindfuck imaginable. Music sucks ass when robotripping. All the highs in sound are shitty as hell.
Be smart man, save your body from anymore pain. Don't waste your time on a drug like that.
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Anonymous
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Phencyclidine
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Registered: 06/02/03
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Unfortunately, it is bodies who can metabolize Coricidin properly that are having problems also. Peope can be unpredictably sensitive to it. Nobody can take your advice because nobody can know in advance.
Cracka_X, I have never enjoyed a drug more than DXM. IMO, DXM is a much better drug than LSD or shrooms. YMMV.
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 Dank420
Shrooms...Mmm
Registered: 04/12/03
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Phencyclidine, just give up on YellowPurplePills, some people are just ignorant, and won't let anyone change their minds. I too enjoy DXM a lot. I've done it countless times, but I've only drank cough syrup maybe 4 times. You can buy it freebase over the net for cheap and then cap it your self. Very easy, and very cheap.
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#1719840 - 07/15/03 11:22 PM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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Phencyclidine
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Registered: 06/02/03
Posts: 2,915
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You don't learn much about the safety of a drug simply by eating it. Go away, you're ignorant and you don't even understand why you're ignorant.
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deltron
Stoned Shroomer-.-
Registered: 07/11/03
Posts: 1,814
Loc: Colorado
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I did it at school once, started feelin it during 5th period science adn somehow made it through, ditched the rest of the day
it was crazy shit i couldnt think or write
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Host: On one hand, you're saying the United States government is spending millions of dollars to eliminate the flow of drugs onto our streets. At the same time, we are doing business with the very same goverment that is flooding our streets with cocaine.
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DrubuShrume
EAT ME - I'm afungi
Registered: 05/14/02
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Because unlike him, you are spreading "information" claiming that Coricidin(sp? like I care?) is healthy for certain people and not for certain people.
If you've read about it, then you would know that there is other active ingredients in it and the combination can be deadly. Just because you survived multiple times, the time you don't survive you won't be here to post "oops, I was wrong."
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#1720323 - 07/16/03 02:05 AM (6 years, 4 months ago) |
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st0nedphucker
Rogue State
Registered: 04/17/03
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I cant believe this is still going on....
I'd like to know what sources you were reading in regards to shrooms and LSD, by "the stories were nothing like the real deal" Do you mean they were a load of bullshit like "if you take LSD you go mad and you can die from eating yourself" if so its people like you who start these bloody stoires by spreading crap like that....
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it killed a few fuckers, but so did ecstasy, and acid
And by making a comment like that you simply demeaning yourself
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st0nedphucker
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My god you're worse off than I thought.....
I am well aware of deaths caused by ectasy, I do live in the UK where the media loves deaths which its caused.... (You have even posted one  )
Hence I dont touch the stuff. Anyway I asked you about the sources you were referring to in regards to mushrooms and LSD.
Yes when you choose to take a drug your taking a risk but you should be making an informed decision when and if you choose to take that risk.
Coricidin contains other active ingredients which are known to be able to cause death and if not some very nasty symptoms FACT, END OF STORY!!!!!
Everything else you have said is irrelevant
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DiMiTriSouljah
No left turn unstoned
Registered: 07/02/03
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I don't want to flame anyone, but YellowPurpleHills, you are spreading some horrible misinformation.
"But it hasn't killed me or any of my friends."
Too much youthful idealism can be a bad thing. Just because you can huff Glade and maybe not die doesn't mean that it's not doing damage or that you should be doing it. But it's your body and if you don't care about it, me caring about it is going to do no good.
"i read about shrooms, and the stories were nothing like the real deal"
I hope you're not talking about this forum/website as being ignorant to the effects of mushrooms. You do know where you are, no?
"you people who are bashing me with the knowledge you've gained from reading have never tried CORDICIDIN but talk about it like it's the DEVIL"
I have read all the literature I can get my hands on about DXM, along with taking it in about every form imaginable (except smoking, which produces toxic vapors!! Never IV'ed it either). So please don't assume that you and your friends are the only ones that have done Coricidin.
"it killed a few fuckers, but so did ecstasy, and acid"
What a great empathetic outlook on responsible entheogen use. Where's your cite for people dying from acid by the way?
"Just like acid may make someone wind up in the woods with schitzophrenia (or so i read)"
Did you read this from the tabloids or one of those Drug Free commercials? Acid does not induce schitzophrenia. Hallucinogenics have been known to make cases of underlying (or active) schitzophrenia more severe.
"You take the risk of death or permanent damage with ANY drug you chose, ANY drug."
Again, incorrect. How about marijuana? Also, I have never heard of a case of either death or permanent damage arising from mushroom use either (unless it was setting based, i.e. some dumbshit eats 40g of azures his first time and decides to lay in the road in the middle of the night for a few hours).
Please, please, go to this website and stop this horrible chain of lies!
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nihilist
another systemof control
Registered: 06/23/03
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Loc: USA
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YellowPurpleHills: Dude, very few drugs cause any damage. shrooms and marijuana cause none at all, especially to the brain.
Congratulations btw YPH, you are the first person stooooopid enough to get me to flame anyone. Go huff some air duster or something.
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neutralizer
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Registered: 06/17/03
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If you're not woman/man enough to either put up with the taste of cough syrup, to extract it, or to get your hands on it some other way that does NOT have cordicidin in it, then you shouldn't be taking it in the first place.
That is, of course, unless you have a death wish for yourself or your friends, or the people who read your posts and think that cordicidin is just fine for them. Or unless you want said people to have a painful, horrible experience in which it's entirely possible they'll require professional medical attention. You need to think about the people who read your posts, BEFORE you post. If no one had called you out on your misinformation, I don't doubt that there'd be people who would think that the cordicidin warnings are just more of the DEA spreading their lies. And by the way I've used DXM several times - no, I haven't tried cordicidin and I won't, mainly because it's just stupid to risk it.
One of the basic purposes of shroomery.org is to stop the spread of misinformation about drugs. You are working against that purpose.
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cb9fl
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Registered: 06/12/03
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well no need to argue that anymore YellowPurpleHills vs Science heh.
Anyways if a person is lacking in the enzyme that breakds down dxm is their a naturally occuring chemical or method to artificially reproduce that enzyme? Or to break down dxm to dxo before it's injested? I'm not looking for involved methods requiring a lab. Something more OTC.
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Phencyclidine
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YellowPurpleHills said: i read about shrooms, and the stories were nothing like the real deal
Your point is meaningless when translating it to knowledge of physical effects. Generally, the phenomenology of the effects of eating a substance won't tell you whether or not a drug is safe, unless there is obviously something wrong. Not noticing harmful side effects doesn't mean that you can conclude something is safe. You really need to understand this: eating a drug tells you almost nothing about the toxicology of the drug. For example, the first time you ate MDMA (presuming that you have), did that tell you what enzymes metabolize it? No. You don't really have a point here.
I also have a problem with you saying that descriptions of mushroom trips you've read were nothing like eating it. Did you or did you not see pretty colours? Did you or did you not experience a dialation of time? Did you or did you not experience an altered state of consciousness? Obviously, nobody can describe exactly what eating a drug will be like for you, but most descriptions of trips of many drugs that I've read are more than "somewhat like" my own experiences. IMO, you greatly indulged in hyperbole in your claim.
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you people who are bashing me with the knowledge you've gained from reading have never tried CORDICIDIN but talk about it like it's the DEVIL
Wrong on both points. Regarding your accusation, I never said that Coricidn was the devil, or said that it was a very unsafe drug. I stated that it shouldn't be used because it involves adding extra risks to drug use. You do know that the first two side effects of DXM are tachycardia and hypertension right? You do know that Chlorpheniramine can cause tachycardia, right? You do know that tachycardia and hypertension when combined can be fatal, right?
Regarding your first point, once again, you don't learn much about the toxicity of the drug just from eating it. The phenomenology of a drug and the toxicology of a drug, are almost entirely separate things. I would easily trust the reports of a toxicologist who had never ingested Chlorpheniramine over your moronic babblings.
You're the ignorant one. I don't understand how you think you can learn anything about the toxicology of a drug simply from eating it.
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it killed a few fuckers, but so did ecstasy, and acid
So, even if MDMA is relatively safe, which it is, does that make it safe to combine DXM and MDMA when all you want to get high off is the DXM? Why bother taking the MDMA on top of it, when it's not part of your desired high, and when it increases the risks?
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and people are happily doing all of the above as we speak, come home, fall asleep, wake up the next day alive, and do it again and again.
Then they are morons like you.
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