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 Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: crazycanadian]
#1708951 - 07/12/03 03:08 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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uhhhh didn't Bill Hicks die from a brain tumor too ??? Creepy and weird. Maybe it was like moral retribution from the big guy hehehe
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: cerealrat]
#1709022 - 07/12/03 03:31 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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my bad Iknew it was cancer....too bad he was a hellofaguy!
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Noviseer]
#1709819 - 07/12/03 07:23 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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what spooks me out is that I think the claim that the government somehow gave McKenna and others cancer is not impossible.
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Strumpling]
#1709826 - 07/12/03 07:26 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Strumpling said:
what spooks me out is that I think the claim that the government somehow gave McKenna and others cancer is not impossible.
ive never heard this theory , could you fill me in on it
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Infrared]
#1709842 - 07/12/03 07:34 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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I'm not very familiar with it, but from what I've heard, the CIA or some government agency at some time or another confronted Terence about somethingerother, and there are people who claim that they somehow triggered the cancer - these same people would have you believe that Timothy Leary was also "wiped out" in a similar fasion.
I'm sure the more details about this claim I learn, the less plausible it sounds, but hey when you just hear it like "the government gave cancer to these 'drug-promoters' and 'psychedelic enthusiasts' because they couldn't stop these people any other way" it really sounds quite possible considering the scumbags we have "in power."
Of course nowadays the patriot act and other various bills (and incoming ones..) assist them in "snuffing out" anybody who farts in their perfume; they don't have to be nearly as sneaky about these kinds of things.
Anyway, I was just saying I wouldn't be too quick to deny our government's willingness and ability to get rid of voices they don't like to hear.
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: crazycanadian]
#1709915 - 07/12/03 08:06 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well I dont think terrence died from Cannabis, Shrooms or DMT, I think he like many people absorbed to many chemicals or one really bad one and thus got cancer
THC destroys brain cancers
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/1569.html
THC for tumours
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/1816.html
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/3016.html
Do any of you realize how much shit , you should actually be afraid of is getting into your body everyday????
http://adbusters.org/magazine/24/endgames/eg1.html
READ THAT WHOLE THING
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural C [Re: Strumpling]
#1710145 - 07/12/03 09:29 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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leary died of some type of cancer too didn't he?
prostate (?) cancer
I seriously doubt drugs had anything to do with Terence's death. As far as I'm aware,marijuana use has only been linked with lung cancer and mushrooms and DMT are most likely totally non carcinogenic (relatively speaking).
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural C [Re: Xibalba]
#1712949 - 07/13/03 09:34 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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I concur.
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural C [Re: Meat_Log_Smurf]
#1714788 - 07/14/03 02:16 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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His doctor told him that cannabis should help to shrink the tumor and McKenna told him that he was a case study for proving that theory wrong.
Yeah I read that.. Terence jokingly said that marijuana shrinking tumours is definetly not possible which is a joke about how he smoked so much pot that if that were true there's no way he'd died of cancer. Don't be silly.. I know people.. lots of people.. lots of pot is consumed... TONS of pot is consumed by TONS of people, and there are only 16 people a year WORLD WIDE who get his cancer which means that NO, MARIJUANA OR ANY OTHER DRUG HEAVILY USED CAUSED HIS CANCER.
And watch it with the conspiracy theories, boys, cause EVERYBODY dies of cancer.. 75% of my grandparents died of cancer... WOAH must be a government plan.
It's very simple: Terence died of cancer. fin.
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: crazycanadian]
#1715911 - 07/14/03 07:10 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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i wouldnt be at all surprised if some government run organization killed all these people. they all stood up for the exact things our government seems to want to keep from us. theres no way they dont know about the mind opening effects of these drugs. they only want us to make them a prosperous country. if everyone was smoking weed and taking mushrooms, people would start thinking for themselves and "oh no, if that were to happen the world as we know it would end!!" maybe
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 Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Noviseer]
#1716406 - 07/14/03 08:53 PM (8 years, 10 months ago) |
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Non drug-users die EVERY DAY! 
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Xlea321]
#12012891 - 02/11/10 09:29 PM (2 years, 3 months ago) |
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I joined this blog after searching for the cause of T. Mckenna's death.
As I first found the brain tumor theory, Bob Marley came to my mind. A documentary I saw, showed the Rasta had CIA concerned about his peace message upsetting the system in the Caribbean. He died of a strange brain decease. Bruce Lee was teaching "too much" to the west and died of a brain tumor. I didn't know about Carl Sagan but he was opening the minds too. I'm not surprised T.Mckenna would have been supressed given that UN tried to forbid DMT and big time labs "Appropriate Ayahuasca" after a failed and ridiculous attempt to patent it.
Too much conspiracy theory someone might say. I suggest you to hear on youtube or read Dr. Lena Luukaanen, former health officer in Finland talking about manners the secret services have to kill someone through seemingly natural deceases.
The sequence to shut somebody up seems to be
a)persuasion
b)brain tumors
c)deadly accidents/suicide
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: crazycanadian]
#13200472 - 09/15/10 04:23 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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Cancer is the second biggest killer behind cardiovascular failure in America, and probably much of the world. People often get cancer with no explanation. Sometimes it just happens.
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Psilocybeingzz]
#13201069 - 09/15/10 06:27 PM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I believe that the reason why the cannabis didnt do anything to help the tumors is because the psychoactive dose of THC is unioverses smaller than the medical dose.
proportionately, youre just taking in a lot more reactive carcinogens when you smoke, and the amount that he did probably contributed to a mild lesser health condition. other factors contribute too, like diet and inactivity and such.
but if he was to make "hemp oil" ;P or something along those lines, just pure cannabinoids without the carcinogens, i believe that he could have recovered
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Smeeeeg]
#13202508 - 09/16/10 01:03 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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way to bump a 7 year old thread
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: halo]
#13202570 - 09/16/10 01:35 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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i heard that Terence was a greasy bacon and eggs man(i know i was also surprised), and bad nutrition can cause cancer! doctors dont learn much about food in med school. it could have been the drugs that caused his not so early departure, but i bet you, Terence had a damn good time doing it.
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: monkiman]
#13202586 - 09/16/10 01:54 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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I think he had a genetic predisposition and ignorant medical care. His acncer was a bit uncommon and while I agree with you that most disease can be tracked one way or another to diet, I think in his case he had a genetic predisposition and unfortunately for him the right circumstances happened that allowed it to manifest and kill him.
But - I don't know anything about him or it except what I have read here, so that is just a guess.
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: monkiman]
#13202910 - 09/16/10 05:32 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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i heard that Terence was a greasy bacon and eggs man(i know i was also surprised), and bad nutrition can cause cancer! doctors dont learn much about food in med school. it could have been the drugs that caused his not so early departure, but i bet you, Terence had a damn good time doing it.
Bacon and eggs does a body good. Sugar and such will screw you up. If one has pancakes with butter and syrup, everyone blames the butter and not the other stuff devoid of benefit to health.
Cancer largely can be seen as a disease of chronic immune suppression/dysfunction. What causes a dramatic suppression of the immune system? Sugars (glucose, sucrose, fructose etc) and polyunsaturated fats (the supposed good fats).
Unless we know every detail about the man we wouldn't know enough. What if he had chronically low levels of vitamin D? Easy to point toward the obvious, but there are a lot more factors than people know. Blaming eggs and bacon is a sure way to continue a cycle of ignorance in health though.
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Re: What caused Terence McKenna's Death? Drugs or Natural Cause [Re: Lennyk]
#13203626 - 09/16/10 09:43 AM (1 year, 8 months ago) |
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he prolly got the tumor cuz he was thinking too much
just a thought
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