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 StateOfMind404
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 Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100)  [Re: Brain Fart]
#16796780 - 09/06/12 05:04 AM (8 months, 10 days ago) |
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Thought i would post this since it is VERY relevant.
I don't know much about MDMA and it's effects on autism, but it seems LSD (and psilocybin) are very effective in treating Autism.
link: http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/lsd/autism.htm
I'm surprised this hasn't been posted before.
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: StateOfMind404]
#16800614 - 09/06/12 09:01 PM (8 months, 10 days ago) |
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Seriously, what gives you the idea that psychedelics might be construed as effective v autism, given a daring, but clearly biased group of researchers who are lumped in this meta-study. I'm not saying these kids might not have been helped, but man what stones it would take to even suggest the idea of such experimentation. I have seen the worst of the worst cases as 3 year olds destroying my office and completely oblivious to self-inury and have also treated some very high functioning from a nearby extremely selective school of engineering. It is indeed a spectrum, much like the color of skin among H. sapiens. Those that claim these are whiney, attention or compensation seeking parasites are indeed misguided in their thinking.
Would MDMA offer relief--my 2 bits worth: I am a high functioning (or at least in most areas) who is blind to most nuanced emotional interaction, and fail miserably at even emoticons, much less given a picture of various emotional states and name them.
I should also add that in college I did a fair amt of 25 which then was almost always authentic, and available in many more forms than blotter. A semseter of education was spent watching old B/W movies all nite under the reduced (tachyphylaxis) effect of real doses and marveled in all the nuance of voocal and facial expression along with a much better understanding of the can you rea between the lines dilog. It was like a curtain to the emotional world being lifted. As to long lasting effects-I don't know-as many of you no doubt have experiences, the deepest, most heartfelt and authentic insights seem to crumble or at leat fade witha 1/2 life measured in days.
Much more rcently I have had the opportunity to experience MDMA--back when it was more or less pure, but only twice. Now compared to the 25, this was pure enlightenment: 25 for all its virtues tends in most cases to increase emotional barriers unless one is really, really safe, whereas mdma is the exact opposite: the so called oceanic experience. I can see where it would assist in mariital conseling, borderline personality d/o, and tho I have never heard it described as such until this forum is likely the losest thing we have to a real truth serum. The problem with any comparison is that the twotimes I did MDMA, ripping each others clothes off and having fabulous sex for what seemed like eternity. Which to give a 10 year old kid? Interesting but difficult proposition to throw much light given the current study design. My 2 cents worth.
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: curiousblue]
#16811967 - 09/08/12 05:40 PM (8 months, 8 days ago) |
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and tho I have never heard it described as such until this forum is likely the losest thing we have to a real truth serum.
i was just thinking about this the other day. but, it's kind of what you think is true at the time, not everyday life.
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: blackdogs]
#16811982 - 09/08/12 05:42 PM (8 months, 8 days ago) |
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i was thinking about this research study and it hadn't occurred to me before but, this research could be potentially harmful.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
#16823574 - 09/10/12 04:32 PM (8 months, 6 days ago) |
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I feel like autism is a gift. My boy is autistic, and he strives for excellence in his areas of knowledge. Hes an avid boxer and farmer, and has dove in completely. I feel like its due to his autism that has made him strong and very capable in these topics
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: blackdogs]
#16825821 - 09/10/12 11:12 PM (8 months, 6 days ago) |
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Point taken, but in my two experiences MDMA allows a level of trust that transcends just about everything, of course if you want to just get into someones pants vs their brain, it is hard for the other party to know the difference.
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: StateOfMind404]
#16831739 - 09/11/12 11:12 PM (8 months, 5 days ago) |
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I'm autistic and mushrooms have permanently freed and expanded my mind. I'm capable of mental processes I wasn't before I did them. As for LSD, it definitely got me out of the prison I was in while I was high on it but I can't tell if it changed my brain permanently. If it did I definitely didn't notice it like I did with shrooms.
PM me if you'd like to know more info.
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: Saratov]
#16835211 - 09/12/12 04:16 PM (8 months, 4 days ago) |
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I have a close friend who is well respected on this message board. I wont say his name, but hes a VERY fuckin interesting fellow. Like Saratov said, mushrooms helped him escape his shell... My buddy can say the same. 
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum *DELETED* [Re: Namoa]
#16838298 - 09/13/12 12:19 AM (8 months, 4 days ago) |
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) *DELETED* [Re: StateOfMind404]
#16838342 - 09/13/12 12:27 AM (8 months, 4 days ago) |
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) *DELETED* [Re: hobbitacid]
#16838407 - 09/13/12 12:37 AM (8 months, 4 days ago) |
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) *DELETED* [Re: hobbitacid]
#16838439 - 09/13/12 12:41 AM (8 months, 4 days ago) |
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: blackdogs]
#16844681 - 09/14/12 03:48 AM (8 months, 3 days ago) |
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i was thinking about this research study and it hadn't occurred to me before but, this research could be potentially harmful.
How? It's just asking about things people have already done...
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: jizmaster]
#16855523 - 09/16/12 12:35 PM (8 months, 16 hours ago) |
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blackdogs said:
i was thinking about this research study and it hadn't occurred to me before but, this research could be potentially harmful.
How? It's just asking about things people have already done...
maybe i misunderstood what they were doing. i was thinking about research where they would be giving mdma to people with autism.
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Re: Still need 10 more survey sets (out of 100) [Re: blackdogs]
#16855527 - 09/16/12 12:36 PM (8 months, 16 hours ago) |
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Participants will be asked to complete an online version of the 50-question Autism Quotient (AQ). The next step is a research survey, which includes questions about demographic information and responses to general questions about MDMA/Ecstasy use. Three additional assessments follow. The process takes about one hour. Your confidentiality will be maintained at all times, and identifying information will never appear in published reports, lectures, or any other public sharing of study results. "
duh. i should have read better.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: blackdogs]
#16868835 - 09/18/12 03:35 PM (7 months, 29 days ago) |
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: m-d-m-a]
#16891364 - 09/22/12 11:44 AM (7 months, 25 days ago) |
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Good for you for studying autism.
My older sister is autistic. The only way she can form a complete sentence is if she is singing a line from a song like the children's song, "Bumble bee" or some Disney movie song.
Interestingly enough, our parents and the school only taught her English. She prefers listening to movies in French and tries to sing what they say.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: syeb64]
#16896018 - 09/23/12 09:30 AM (7 months, 24 days ago) |
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Sounds kinda cute.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: syeb64]
#16910947 - 09/25/12 10:06 PM (7 months, 22 days ago) |
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That's interesting, the same thing can happen to people who have had strokes. Singing uses a different part of the brain than speaking.
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Re: Research on MDMA/Ecstasy experiences of adults on autism spectrum [Re: jordman]
#17070716 - 10/21/12 03:03 AM (6 months, 28 days ago) |
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TL;DR-
* LSD cures aspergers temporarily
* Reptilians are real
Interesting thread.
I'd like to share my experience with it.
Never diagnosed "officially", never even realized it up untill my bday at the very end of August 2012 when i took LSD, LSD actually diagnosed me.
Let's begin.
So im looking for nootropics since im a complete moron (due to aspergers) w/o drugs (specifically, LSD, Weed, Shrooms and the legendary MDMA contrarty to popular belief those drugs are genius substances)
Back to the topic, i find LSD has the ability to accelerate learning, long story short i end up buying some.
Accelerated learning works, so on point good shit all is to plan.
Now heres where it gets inteeresting, LSD gave me a feeling of wanting to get outta the house (prior to LSD i havent left the house in about 8 months) and i barely speak to my parents.
Fast foward again since if i cover everything itll take a few hours -
Im able to see facial expressions on my parents's faces when they talk,i was like WTF??? those expressions where never there before.
My ADHD completely vaniches, im able to only think 1 thought at a time instad of the million i usually think, im able to sleep for the first time without lying in bed for 6 hours.
My most memorable moment was when me and my dad got into the car, we start driving and im able to keep eye contact with other people in their cars for the first fucking time in my life, god that felt great.
I can still do it now......but it feels forced now rather than natural when i was on LSD.
And it cured my homosexuality, im now asexual except on LSD then im hetero anyways, no idea how, but i found pussy to actually look aesthetic and GOOD before i really didnt like pysically looking at a pussy and the faces of men to be a turn off, i also got a tingly feeling in my back when i looked at a female it never happened before.
I was also able to use "body langage or "eye language" to sexually gratify and indicate my feelings to 2 females, they were able to understand what i was conveying, i had no idea, this is how you initituate interest, this is something i cannot do at all.
HOWEVER, LSD isn't a good a tool for daily use, not because i have any morals at all it's not good because........well Reptilians are real, before yu say im crazy i never believed in icke or conspiracies at all, but yep reptilians are completely fucking real, and theyre everywhere too, dont believe me?
Drop some acid and go to the mall or some park or some office building, theyre there. thereye every fucking where.
You can only see them on acid, and it wasnt a hallucation at all, since since a lot of people are normal, and others are these reptilians things, theyre clear as day, and these things are the onces that created aspergers, they know te human brain and psych very well,, they make the vaccines to give us aspergers and fuck man obama is one, the queen basically anyone in power.
MDMA however and Weed help greatly, MDMA makes me feel normal like LSD except no ability to see reptilians, they latch onto fear, those things promote fear and hatred.
Weed also helps, make me smarter, able to articulate, gives me better motor control function, makes me able to understand complex math and math in general, it improves my quality of living.
I feel my human experience is limited, since i dont get the full human experience due to these reptilian fuckers creating these diseases that affect us.
Aspergers isnt a natural disease, all diseases arent natural at all and are most likely manufactured by these reptilian things i saw.
Edited by fxtrademark (10/21/12 03:09 AM)
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