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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: nooneman]
    #16778596 - 09/02/12 10:50 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

Fuck the constitution! It doesn't hold shit! I'm speaking of my animalistic rights to do as i please.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: King Klick]
    #16778613 - 09/02/12 10:54 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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King Klick said:
Fuck the constitution! It doesn't hold shit! I'm speaking of my animalistic rights to do as i please.




ok, so get off the the fields, smoke some marijuanas and fuck a few sheep


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16778626 - 09/02/12 10:57 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
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King Klick said:
Fuck the constitution! It doesn't hold shit! I'm speaking of my animalistic rights to do as i please.




ok, so get off the the fields, smoke some marijuanas and fuck a few sheep



:shrug: I see nothing wrong with this. I'm not attracted to sheep though.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16778632 - 09/02/12 10:58 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

but like i said, its our right as a human being o deicide what we do with our bodies. our government has removed our right. it should absolutely be up to us to make that decision ourselves.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: the nobody]
    #16778646 - 09/02/12 11:02 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

Do you want to fight for the United States?
Personally I would never..If you think it's right though you should do it.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: the nobody]
    #16778660 - 09/02/12 11:05 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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the nobody said:
but like i said, its our right as a human being o deicide what we do with our bodies. our government has removed our right. it should absolutely be up to us to make that decision ourselves.





you can still smoke pot, smoke meth or even kill yourself, so to be honest,
you still have that 'right', you just have consequences to face if you're
arrested for the stuff


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: the nobody]
    #16778676 - 09/02/12 11:08 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

but they do not have the right to put me in a room for doing these things


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #16778687 - 09/02/12 11:10 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

As long as America doesn't want to be overrun by other countries, and as long as there are people fighting on the battlefield, America needs an Air Force, and a Military, and a Navy, and an Army ... and there are people fighting on the battlefield today, so we need those people who are willing to defend our country in the line of duty. 

Simply put, as long as there is the opportunity for war you need to be a war-ready country in order to survive as a country.

I support those who join branches such as the Air Force as I support those who fight for our country's survival.  I don't think there is anything morally wrong with joining the Air Force, even if you do end up having to fly planes and kill people.  That's what it takes in this world to show that, as a country, you are willing to fight for your rights and for your people. 

Just imagine what aggressive and backwards countries like North Korea would do if nobody in our country joined the Air Force or the Military, etc.  They wouldn't be scared of us, and they would be an instant threat to America.  As an American, just imagine what it would be like to have to live under North Korea's rule.  You think having drug laws is bad?  You don't know what "bad" is.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: the nobody]
    #16778722 - 09/02/12 11:17 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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the nobody said:
but they do not have the right to put me in a room for doing these things





again you seem to be mistaken, read the constitution, they are allowed to pass
laws, they're allowed to enforce the laws


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16778723 - 09/02/12 11:17 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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Prisoner#1 said:
smoking weed isnt covered in the constitution, what is covered is our right to
change the laws in order to make it a right, it worked with the repeal of
alcohol prohibition and can work with marijuana



The 9th amendment brah.  Look it up.  You have the right to do whatever you want to your body as long as you don't hurt anyone else.  This includes suicide, drugs, abortion, and whatever the fuck else.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: HB]
    #16778737 - 09/02/12 11:19 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

your make a solid point my friend.  but look at how many battles have been fought on american soil.  aside from WW2, (pearl harbor) (i will not get into 911, as i strongly belive  it was put in place by bush, and do not want to get off topic)  we have always brought the fight to them, as far as i know.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #16778747 - 09/02/12 11:21 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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reeferaddict69 said:
Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
smoking weed isnt covered in the constitution, what is covered is our right to
change the laws in order to make it a right, it worked with the repeal of
alcohol prohibition and can work with marijuana



The 9th amendment brah.  Look it up.  You have the right to do whatever you want to your body as long as you don't hurt anyone else.  This includes suicide, drugs, abortion, and whatever the fuck else.




really, where in this passage does it say that

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #16778749 - 09/02/12 11:21 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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Quote:

Prisoner#1 said:
smoking weed isnt covered in the constitution, what is covered is our right to
change the laws in order to make it a right, it worked with the repeal of
alcohol prohibition and can work with marijuana



The 9th amendment brah.  Look it up.  You have the right to do whatever you want to your body as long as you don't hurt anyone else.  This includes suicide, drugs, abortion, and whatever the fuck else.





The Ninth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is somewhat of an enigma. It provides that the naming of certain rights in the Constitution does not take away from the people rights that are not named. Yet neither the language nor the history of the Ninth Amendment offers any hints as to the nature of the rights it was designed to protect.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16778778 - 09/02/12 11:26 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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reeferaddict69 said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
smoking weed isnt covered in the constitution, what is covered is our right to
change the laws in order to make it a right, it worked with the repeal of
alcohol prohibition and can work with marijuana



The 9th amendment brah.  Look it up.  You have the right to do whatever you want to your body as long as you don't hurt anyone else.  This includes suicide, drugs, abortion, and whatever the fuck else.




really, where in this passage does it say that

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.



It basically says that there are rights that we are born with if you read it carefully.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: Quest_ions]
    #16778794 - 09/02/12 11:30 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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reeferaddict69 said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
smoking weed isnt covered in the constitution, what is covered is our right to
change the laws in order to make it a right, it worked with the repeal of
alcohol prohibition and can work with marijuana



The 9th amendment brah.  Look it up.  You have the right to do whatever you want to your body as long as you don't hurt anyone else.  This includes suicide, drugs, abortion, and whatever the fuck else.





The Ninth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution is somewhat of an enigma. It provides that the naming of certain rights in the Constitution does not take away from the people rights that are not named. Yet neither the language nor the history of the Ninth Amendment offers any hints as to the nature of the rights it was designed to protect.



I'd argue that they put in the ninth amendment for future issues that would come up.  Such as euthanasia.  Jack Kevorkian argues the case for using the 9th amendment to defend the right to die whenever you want.  An inherent human right if you will.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #16778822 - 09/02/12 11:35 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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reeferaddict69 said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
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reeferaddict69 said:
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Prisoner#1 said:
smoking weed isnt covered in the constitution, what is covered is our right to
change the laws in order to make it a right, it worked with the repeal of
alcohol prohibition and can work with marijuana



The 9th amendment brah.  Look it up.  You have the right to do whatever you want to your body as long as you don't hurt anyone else.  This includes suicide, drugs, abortion, and whatever the fuck else.




really, where in this passage does it say that

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.



It basically says that there are rights that we are born with if you read it carefully.





and where does it list the right to consume drugs as one you're born with,
just because that's how you wish to interpret it doesnt mean that it's actual


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: the nobody]
    #16778853 - 09/02/12 11:41 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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your make a solid point my friend.  but look at how many battles have been fought on american soil.  aside from WW2, (pearl harbor) (i will not get into 911, as i strongly belive  it was put in place by bush, and do not want to get off topic)  we have always brought the fight to them, as far as i know.




It's true that we tend to fight our battles on foreign soil, but we do that because of a few reasons.  For one, we have a responsibility to defend our ally countries when they are under attack, so we will be fighting on foreign soil if we are defending another country.  Also, I believe that 9/11 was, in fact, done by terrorists, and that there is no conspiracy happening in regards to 9/11, so once we were attacked on our own soil we moved the battle to foreign soil in order to attack our enemy (Al-Qaeda) on their own turf, keeping them from being able to organize more attacks on our country and taking out their leaders as well as their soldiers.  And finally, we have no reason to fight on our own turf if nobody is attacking us on our own turf.  America's branches of war are intimidating to the rest of the world, I would imagine, so other countries probably think twice about attacking us in our own country.  We have aircraft carriers all around the world and B-2 Stealth Bombers that carry nuclear weapons, so if somebody brought the battle to our soil we could strike back in very little time and with major firepower if they wanted to pick a fight.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: RonaldFuckingPaul]
    #16778878 - 09/02/12 11:46 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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I'd argue that they put in the ninth amendment for future issues that would come up.  Such as euthanasia.  Jack Kevorkian argues the case for using the 9th amendment to defend the right to die whenever you want.  An inherent human right if you will.





if you decide to put the gun to your head does the government stop you?
no because they arent there, they can stop jack kevorkian from providing
you the means to commit suicide


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16778885 - 09/02/12 11:48 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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and where does it list the right to consume drugs as one you're born with,
just because that's how you wish to interpret it doesnt mean that it's actual




I'd argue that as long as you're not hurting someone else you can do whatever you want with your body.  It's an inherent right that you're born with.  Laws can't take that away from you.  Nobody can argue that philosophically.


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Re: Is joining the Air Force a moral thing to do? [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #16778907 - 09/02/12 11:54 PM (8 months, 15 days ago)

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reeferaddict69 said:
I'd argue that they put in the ninth amendment for future issues that would come up.  Such as euthanasia.  Jack Kevorkian argues the case for using the 9th amendment to defend the right to die whenever you want.  An inherent human right if you will.





if you decide to put the gun to your head does the government stop you?
no because they arent there, they can stop jack kevorkian from providing
you the means to commit suicide



No the gov't can't really stop you if you're doing it in private.  But if the gov't stops Kevorkian from helping one of his patients die than they're trampling on his rights as a physician to do what is best for his patient after they've talked it over.


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