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 Simplepowa
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 Is Obama Endorsement From Pot Group Smoke and Mirrors? 
#16775749 - 09/02/12 12:10 PM (9 months, 11 days ago) |
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When the United States Medical Marijuana Chamber of Commerce earlier this week endorsed President Barack Obama, folks in the media were surprised that an industry that hadn’t been too thrilled with the administration was rallying behind it.
Even more surprised? Mainstream marijuana activists, many of whom have never heard of the organization or its founder, Tom Leto. The major lobbying and advocacy groups have so far held off on endorsing a presidential candidate — they say Obama hasn’t lived up to a vow to back off raids.
“Our whole community was asking ‘who is this clown?’” says Aaron Houston, executive director of the Students for Sensible Drug Policy. And conspiracy theories, unsurprisingly, bloomed.
The U.S. Medical Marijuana Chamber of Commerce’s press release endorsing Obama claimed it has 10,000 members in chapters across the country, and its Web site lists a box-office address on a swank stretch of Pennsylvania Ave.
The group does not appear to be incorporated, nor is it listed in nonprofit records or in Dun & Bradstreet. A lone press clip from a 2010 event in New Jersey is the only mention to be found.
We reached Leto, who said the fact that no one had heard of him meant he has more work to do. As for the lack of a paper trail, he says it’s in the works. “I’ve got attorneys working on all that,” he says. “It’s a process, you know? We will be...I don’t know how to say it, but lock, stock, and barrel in about two weeks.”
Leto says he’s not naming his members to protect them. “People aren’t ready to be out there,” he explains. “but I’m out there and I’m in it to win it.”
Leto, a California-based promoter of hydroponic equipment, explained the genesis of the company, a story that only adds a bit of mystery: he was working with the New York PR firm Todd Shapiro Associates to help market his hydroponics business when the concept snowballed into a nationwide organization advocating federal legalization of medical marijuana.
Shapiro referred our questions to his office, but the person we spoke to there said she wasn’t authorized to speak on the record.
Still, pot advocates are wary. Paranoid, even. But then again...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/in-the-loop/post/is-obama-endorsement-from-pot-group-smoke-and-mirrors/2012/08/29/b1e4bc46-f218-11e1-a612-3cfc842a6d89_blog.html
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 starfire_xes
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Re: Is Obama Endorsement From Pot Group Smoke and Mirrors? [Re: Simplepowa]
#16779390 - 09/03/12 01:37 AM (9 months, 10 days ago) |
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A shell organization set up by the Obama Campaign.
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Salomon
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Re: Is Obama Endorsement From Pot Group Smoke and Mirrors? [Re: starfire_xes]
#16780382 - 09/03/12 10:09 AM (9 months, 10 days ago) |
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considering omaba has been one of the hardest presidents on medicinal marijuana, i'd say it's quite fair to say this endorsement is a farce
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Gilgamesh18
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Re: Is Obama Endorsement From Pot Group Smoke and Mirrors? [Re: starfire_xes]
#16780486 - 09/03/12 11:01 AM (9 months, 10 days ago) |
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starfire_xes said:
A shell organization set up by the Obama Campaign.
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LongStrangeTrip
Deadhead
Registered: 09/19/09
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Re: Is Obama Endorsement From Pot Group Smoke and Mirrors? [Re: Salomon]
#16782443 - 09/03/12 06:12 PM (9 months, 10 days ago) |
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Salomon said:
considering omaba has been one of the hardest presidents on medicinal marijuana, i'd say it's quite fair to say this endorsement is a farce
Oh really?
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he major lobbying and advocacy groups have so far held off on endorsing a presidential candidate — they say Obama Eric Holder hasn’t lived up to a vow to back off raids.
Fixed.
Who do you think they are going to support, Romney / Paul Ryan ? 
Either way, cannabis reform is not going to come from a president / executive power. If that is where you are looking, it's the wrong place. It will have to come through the legislative branches of government. It's not like the president can just get up and overturn the controlled substances act  we would be in violation of UN treaties (that Nixon and his administration pretty much wrote up on their own).
Just being realistic (like this group is)
 
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Re: Is Obama Endorsement From Pot Group Smoke and Mirrors? [Re: LongStrangeTrip]
#16786157 - 09/04/12 01:07 PM (9 months, 9 days ago) |
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"The President" can order drone strikes to blow up an American citizen, a juvenile at that.
But he can't sign an executive order backing America out of drug treaties that the U.S. bullied the rest of the world in to in the first place?
What you're saying is patently false. Obama CAN change this unilaterally.
If he couldn't, there's still the fact that he made a PROMISE to not hurt people, and then people working directly under him did just that. Eric Holder is beholden to the Obama Administration and Obama is *his* Boss yet this guy is doing everything Obama promised to not do.
No accountability, no responsibility, just more "My devil is better than theirs".
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LongStrangeTrip
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Re: Is Obama Endorsement From Pot Group Smoke and Mirrors? [Re: Humility]
#16788768 - 09/04/12 09:19 PM (9 months, 8 days ago) |
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If he couldn't, there's still the fact that he made a PROMISE to not hurt people, and then people working directly under him did just that. Eric Holder is beholden to the Obama Administration and Obama is *his* Boss yet this guy is doing everything Obama promised to not do.
Don't you think that says something about presidential powers?
Eric Holder is beholden to various interests, as is the president.
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"The President" can order drone strikes to blow up an American citizen, a juvenile at that.
That right he has because he pretty much changed nothing that Bush put in place in his 8 year presidency.
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But he can't sign an executive order backing America out of drug treaties that the U.S. bullied the rest of the world in to in the first place?
No, they really are not that sweeping, they are specific. Their are multiple international treaties that we hold countries to, and us being the authors of most of those policies, no, one person who got elected for four years cannot simply sign that away. It does not matter if he has technical "power", that's old world talk. The president is beholden to monetary interests, in the form of lobbys / ect, that really change the game. I am not saying it's right, it is what it is.
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What you're saying is patently false. Obama CAN change this unilaterally.
I just think, realistically, you cannot expect that to happen. It won't. Not until a lot MORE has changed. You are not letting the political climate of today influence your equation. It should. It effects it.
When the change comes it will legislative in nature. Maybe enough legislation, and enough favor, or maybe large business entities finally looking at cannabis (for example) as a legitimate product...maybe even greater and greater pushes from the people, grassroots, through educating one another on the subject...THAN, maybe a president can do something. Not in this climate though.
No one ever said anything would change easily, right ?
So why demand the impossible from him. Romney wants to bring us to the stone age; fuck yea I will vote for Obama, the lesser of the evil. When I heard Romney announce his energy policy, cutting all subsidies to solar / wind / alternative energies (which get far too little "help" in the first place), and giving more to gas and clean coal... I wanted to puke in my mouth. I watch these speeches, this was last week. Romney said the Obama administration is attacking big oil; can you even fathom that ? Obama has been as supportive as any president has. And he needs to do more, but at least he is fucking sane!
I will vote for shady + not crazy, as opposed to shady + crazy
It's our reality, and we have to survive.
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