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 zzripz
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 Re: hay guize, let's all talk about 9/11!  [Re: Enlil] 2
#16766328 - 08/31/12 04:55 PM (8 months, 12 days ago) |
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Enlil said:
There are idiot lawyers just like there are idiot plumbers...
One need look no further than Dan Quayle to know that.
...and of course your not one are you? 
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Re: hay guize, let's all talk about 9/11! [Re: zzripz] 1
#16766370 - 08/31/12 05:05 PM (8 months, 12 days ago) |
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I may or may not be...but at least I know the difference between "your" "you're" and "yore."
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Re: hay guize, let's all talk about 9/11! [Re: SWEDEN]
#16766374 - 08/31/12 05:05 PM (8 months, 12 days ago) |
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Handheld GPS, what a fucking joke.
Why didn't they find these handheld GPS devices? They found an intact passport of one of the alleged terrorists but not the super-sturdy blackbox. I know it's been asked a thousand times but I ask again: How can a paper booklet survive an explosive inferno but the one item designed to survive a crash is never recovered?
The passport thing is seriously ridiculous.
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Re: hay guize, let's all talk about 9/11! [Re: koods]
#16766424 - 08/31/12 05:17 PM (8 months, 12 days ago) |
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They wouldn't even need navigation equipment. They could easily follow landmarks, especially rivers which conveniently lead right to their target. Apparently, the two NY bound planes did exactly that, and turned sharply to follow the Hudson. With a roadmap, it is surprisingly easy to follow interstates from the air.
I just occurred to me that the approach to National Airport specifies the path to be the contour of the Potomac river.
As for the passport, it is remarkable, but if you just think about the circumstances, it makes sense. What is going to have a less catastrophic deceleration from 500 mph, a very light booklet, or a metal box with electronics inside. And if you think where that passport was at the moment of impact, most likely in the pocket of someone at the front of the plane - a fairly dense, squishy vehicle that could have carried the passport out in front of the fireball. I'm guessing they found it on the street, some distance from the towers?
And images from the day clearly demonstrate a lot of paper managed to escape the inferno.
Edited by koods (08/31/12 05:19 PM)
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Re: hay guize, let's all talk about 9/11! [Re: koods]
#16766439 - 08/31/12 05:20 PM (8 months, 12 days ago) |
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According to ABC News and the Associated Press, the passport of hijacker Satam Al Suqami was found a few blocks from the WTC. 1 2 The Guardian was skeptical: "the idea that Atta's passport had escaped from that inferno unsinged [tests] the credulity of the staunchest supporter of the FBI's crackdown on terrorism." 3 Note the passport did not belong to Atta, as is commonly claimed.
Satam Al Suqami was supposedly on Flight 11, the plane that hit the North Tower. In that collision, the building's core absorbed almost the entire airplane, which hit the northeast wall nearly dead center.
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Re: hay guize, let's all talk about 9/11! [Re: DeadHearts]
#16766540 - 08/31/12 05:38 PM (8 months, 12 days ago) |
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I suspect the hijacker ended up scattered in the same vicinity. Probably sailed through the building, occasionally being halved by metal beams, but mostly just pounding through dry wall, glass and office workers - becoming progressively more liquified until he exited the building as a chunky mist and strips of clothing.
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Re: hay guize, let's all talk about 9/11! [Re: koods]
#16766563 - 08/31/12 05:42 PM (8 months, 12 days ago) |
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I suspect the hijacker ended up scattered in the same vicinity. Probably sailed through the building, occasionally being halved by metal beams, but mostly just pounding through dry wall, glass and office workers - becoming progressively more liquified until he exited the building as a chunky mist and strips of clothing.
Did you even see the planes hit the building and explode into fire? There just no way.
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Re: hay guize, let's all talk about 9/11! [Re: DeadHearts]
#16766588 - 08/31/12 05:49 PM (8 months, 12 days ago) |
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This view you can see quite a bit of debis that escaped ahead of the fireball.
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Re: hay guize, let's all talk about 9/11! [Re: koods]
#16766675 - 08/31/12 06:03 PM (8 months, 12 days ago) |
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I dont buy it. Know way that shit made it out before the fire and intact no less.
But whatever its all in the past.
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Re: hay guize, let's all talk about 9/11! [Re: DeadHearts]
#16766696 - 08/31/12 06:05 PM (8 months, 12 days ago) |
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Nonetheless, this is a storm in a teacup...The passports have always seemed freaky to me, but stranger things have happened...
Whatever the issue was with the passports, it doesn't really cast any doubt on the official story. The passports are neither necessary or sufficient to prove the official story, so eliminating them altogether doesn't really undercut the credibility of that story.
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Re: hay guize, let's all talk about 9/11! [Re: koods]
#16766725 - 08/31/12 06:12 PM (8 months, 12 days ago) |
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Let's put it this way... The first few seconds of the fireball defines the area where the liquid fuel has spread. At any moment in time, the way that liquid moves through the building will be fairly uniform, so if there were two tanks in front of another, the fuel from the back cant just jump ahead of the fuel from the front. At that speed, people would behave like a liquid, if they were located in front of the fuel tanks, and short of encountering a substantial barrier a lot of their tissue could have remained n front of the fuel. Ok dinner time.
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But you see you say that but immediately forget THIS history---Operation Northwoods. I mentioned that in a recent thread about 9/11 and am told it has no relevance to 9/11. Ohhh right. So what about USS Liberty? Orrr Operation Sussanah. Hear of it?
Ahh, so you just consider the tiny little bits of history here and there that can be construed as support by way of precedence for the "false flag" piece of whatever theory it is you're entertaining today. Ignore all the rest of history that explains why angry dudes from the middle east actually had a real motivation to use hijacked planes as missiles to attack the Western devil.
I wonder why all those dudes in the middle east are so pissed off. Prohibition on bacon? Sand in their vaginas? The heat? Or maybe centuries of being interfered with, the beachhead of israel (I don't see the difference between that and christendom. Just now the settlers are a different ethnicity) Brown people subjected to the most egregious warfare of starvation (the ten years of sanctions against Iraq, resulting in millions of children starving to death), of total warfare where civilians are legitimate targets, the use of toxic depeleted uranium, which is a death sentence to everyone who breathes it in.
But, one of the things that often gets overlooked in this is Arabia with it's evil house of Saud in charge. An absolute monarchy, that for some reason gets propped up by the USA foriegn aid (why does such an oil rich country need foriegn aid?) A country that harbours the most offensive form of islam, wahabism.
Arabia of the house of Saud would not exist if it were not for the actions of figureheads such as T.E Lawrence during the first world war, using the arabs and bedouin to defeat the ottoman empire. Without the balfour declairation (where somehow Britain had the authority to give up Palestine for "a homeland for the jews").
Right, all that and more, thank your for elucidating what I was referring to as the real motivation of the hijackers.
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So yeah. It is important to bear in mind false flag attacks, just as it's important to look at the past century of middle east history to see that they are angry, and it's not because they hate our freedoms.
I hope you're not suggesting that I said they attacked us because "they hate our freedoms". That's the oldest strawman there is in the entire 9/11 discussion.
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Re: hay guize, let's all talk about 9/11! [Re: Enlil]
#16769554 - 09/01/12 04:47 AM (8 months, 11 days ago) |
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Enlil said:
Nonetheless, this is a storm in a teacup...The passports have always seemed freaky to me, but stranger things have happened...
only the passport absurdity seems freaky to you...?????
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Whatever the issue was with the passports, it doesn't really cast any doubt on the official story. The passports are neither necessary or sufficient to prove the official story, so eliminating them altogether doesn't really undercut the credibility of that story.
For a start, all the so-called findings 'pointing to the terrorists' from the passports to the cars with korans and flight manuals in Arabic, forgotten suitcases, in them are SO obviously ludicrous that if you saw this shit in a B-movie hopefully you would laugh yer arse off. Of course when you look at 9/11 you should instead of focussing on these dodgy 'freaky' advantageous discoveries be more interested in finding out WHO is is making sure these finds are found and who are the real perps not being found but whose presence is obvious when you look, but who make looking or even talking about their presence 'anti-semitic'. Get me? 9/11 is a false flag operation so of course they are gonna find magical flying passports and korans init?
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