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Scantraxx
Wait........ what?

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Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

#16724596 - 08/19/12 05:11 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

Who here has actually done it tough (mentally) and realised they need to change something and stuck to what needed to be done to attain the "peace" in mind?

Reason I ask is because lately I have really gotten into meditating and living in the moment (I'm not claiming to be proficient in either though) and being mindful of my thought process. And I can say, while even though I am still not in the best way I have come further than what I would of imagined two years ago where I would most of my time isolate my self, have panic attacks for no reason and stare blankly at the walls for hours on end in a shitty pointless depression.

I understand the science behind meditation is pretty solid in that it will have a positive impact on your life but I just find the cause and effect of it nice, it's not something you can find in other things that offer instant gratification, those things are usually draining on the psyche.

Who'd of thought sitting for twenty minutes two times a day focussing on counting the breathe in one and out two and repeat would be so rewarding!?

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OrgoneConclusion
Rico Suave

Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 35,353
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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: Scantraxx]
#16724616 - 08/19/12 05:17 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

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I would of imagined

I seriously hope English is your second language as this makes no sense.

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ganjasmuggler
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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16724622 - 08/19/12 05:19 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

I have made it to the bottom of attempting suicide then coming back and living life and becoming a better person and then going to college. But unfortanatly im about to commit suicide again 3 years later.

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Scantraxx
Wait........ what?

Registered: 04/15/08
Posts: 687
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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16724651 - 08/19/12 05:26 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

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OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:

I would of imagined

I seriously hope English is your second language as this makes no sense.

Makes sense to me. My brain was wired wrong.

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OrgoneConclusion
Rico Suave

Registered: 04/01/07
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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: Scantraxx]
#16724666 - 08/19/12 05:32 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

Quote:

Scantraxx said:
Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
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I would of imagined

I seriously hope English is your second language as this makes no sense.

Makes sense to me. My brain was wired wrong.

of
1 [uhv, ov; unstressed uhv or, especially before consonants, uh] Show IPA

preposition
1.
(used to indicate distance or direction from, separation, deprivation, etc.): within a mile of the church; south of Omaha; to be robbed of one's money.

2.
(used to indicate derivation, origin, or source): a man of good family; the plays of Shakespeare; a piece of cake.

3.
(used to indicate cause, motive, occasion, or reason): to die of hunger.

4.
(used to indicate material, component parts, substance, or contents): a dress of silk; an apartment of three rooms; a book of poems; a package of cheese.

5.
(used to indicate apposition or identity): Is that idiot of a salesman calling again?

Which definition of 'of' applies?

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jack_straw2208
Doctor

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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: ganjasmuggler]
#16724712 - 08/19/12 05:45 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

well technically you are an amateur at suicide. why risk botching it when there is a whole wide world of random death for you?

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Big Worm
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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: jack_straw2208]
#16724788 - 08/19/12 06:16 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

People who derail threads just to look like a snobby english teacher
.... :facepalm:

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OrgoneConclusion
Rico Suave

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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: Big Worm]
#16724805 - 08/19/12 06:30 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

Zen teachers are just douchebags who like to hit people with a stick...

Meditation is supposed to lead to awareness and attention to details not to sloppiness, is it not?

Is the arrangement of words less important than the arrangement of flowers (as in zen gardening) or any other activity?

Should we pay attention when sitting with eyes closed and then let our mind wander willy-nilly the rest of the time? Is that what you are advocating?

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giesyerjaicket

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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16724808 - 08/19/12 06:34 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:

I would of imagined

I seriously hope English is your second language as this makes no sense.

That's strange, I had no problem interpreting his statement!?

OP, kudos for turning your life around !

I've never dabbled with meditation but you may well have peaked my interest :thumbup:

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Icelander
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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16724813 - 08/19/12 06:37 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

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"Hang on tightly, let go lightly" -anonymous

“under the present brutal and primitive conditions on this planet, every person you meet should be regarded as one of the walking wounded. we have never seen a man or woman not slightly deranged by either anxiety or grief. we have never seen a totally sane human being.”
― Robert Anton Wilson

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Dark_Star
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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: Scantraxx]
#16724820 - 08/19/12 06:40 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

I have. It took many years, many ups, downs, failures, etc.... I got up only to fall deeper.....then picked myself up again, only to fall deeper, so on & so forth. I finally reached a point where enough was enough. What exactly happened/changed, I can't say; I'm not really sure. I do know that I had hit that point though. After that it was a long hard stuggle, but I had a lot of support, a lot of determination, and the belief that someday things may get better. Lo and behold, things did get better, and continue to do so.

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Icelander
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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: Scantraxx]
#16724821 - 08/19/12 06:40 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

Quote:

Scantraxx said:
Who here has actually done it tough (mentally) and realised they need to change something and stuck to what needed to be done to attain the "peace" in mind?

Reason I ask is because lately I have really gotten into meditating and living in the moment (I'm not claiming to be proficient in either though) and being mindful of my thought process. And I can say, while even though I am still not in the best way I have come further than what I would of imagined two years ago where I would most of my time isolate my self, have panic attacks for no reason and stare blankly at the walls for hours on end in a shitty pointless depression.

I understand the science behind meditation is pretty solid in that it will have a positive impact on your life but I just find the cause and effect of it nice, it's not something you can find in other things that offer instant gratification, those things are usually draining on the psyche.

Who'd of thought sitting for twenty minutes two times a day focussing on counting the breathe in one and out two and repeat would be so rewarding!?

I think that's great. I say keep at it and ignore all nay sayers. :thumbup:

Getting over panic attacks is no small achievement and I'm happy for you. Suffering sucks.

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OrgoneConclusion
Rico Suave

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Loc: Candyland

Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: giesyerjaicket]
#16724822 - 08/19/12 06:40 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

Quote:

That's strange, I had no problem interpreting his statement!?

That is a statement and not a question.

Since when does a simple and properly-phrased sentence require interpretation?

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Icelander
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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16724830 - 08/19/12 06:42 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

I had no problem understanding the OP either. The message he was attempting to get across got across and it was pretty cool imo.

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giesyerjaicket

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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16724834 - 08/19/12 06:45 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

Quote:

OrgoneConclusion said:

Since when does a simple and properly-phrased sentence require interpretation?

When ~~their~~ there is an interpreter?!

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quinn
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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: Scantraxx]
#16724838 - 08/19/12 06:47 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

good on ya man :thumbup:

there is that weird self destructive logic 'i need to get to the bottom to come out on top'

i mean sometimes life does seem like a losing battle and you just wanna lose. but imo life is always a battle and no matter how profound the rock bottom religious experience may be it doesnt change that. the shit you see now is the shit you always have to deal with and not to detract from those who have been 'down there' but people who stop the downward spiral before it gets out of control are sometimes as much (if not more) admirable.

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OrgoneConclusion
Rico Suave

Registered: 04/01/07
Posts: 35,353
Loc: Candyland

Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: giesyerjaicket]
#16724839 - 08/19/12 06:47 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

I am so proud of you! :hug:

Here is a gold star!

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OrgoneConclusion
Rico Suave

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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: Icelander]
#16724846 - 08/19/12 06:50 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

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I had no problem understanding the OP either.

I got most of it, but perhaps you could explain what 'would of' means.

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Icelander
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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#16724849 - 08/19/12 06:52 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

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OrgoneConclusion
Rico Suave

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Re: Who's hit rockbottom and changed their life for the better..

[Re: Icelander]
#16724860 - 08/19/12 06:56 AM (8 months, 30 days ago)

Quote:

Icelander said:
no

Should I try for something simpler?

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