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 Partially dehydrated cakes? 
#16719947 - 08/18/12 12:32 PM (9 months, 13 minutes ago) |
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so this is my first post, and also my first time growing cubes. I'm using pf tek, brf cakes, growing penis envy. I have 4 cakes in a FC that i'm pretty sure is way too big and not quite enough perlite in it. quite a lot of verm fell off after i rolled on two of my cakes and those parts are starting to turn blue. my humidity has been about 90-95%, but lately its been dipping to 80%. the bottoms of the cakes are all pinning/fruiting and from what i've read that means the entire cakes would be if i had proper conditions in my FC and a good layer of verm covering the entire cakes. i'm headed to the store to get a better container after i post this.
my question, finally, is can i dunk like the top half of my cakes in water and 'roll' or cover just the top half in verm? what do you do about a half dehydrated cake that is also half fruiting?
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: Mr. Miller]
#16720280 - 08/18/12 01:41 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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You can set a cake in a saucer of water and let it rehydrate.
Can we get some pics of your overall setup, and some of the cakes?
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: Doc_T]
#16720354 - 08/18/12 01:56 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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i'll snap a few more showing my whole setup as soon i get this new FC made, these are from earlier today.
this is the bottom of one of the cakes, they all have little shroomies.
you can see a lot of the vermiculite fell off the top of this one and now its turning a pale blue. dehydration right?
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: Mr. Miller]
#16720446 - 08/18/12 02:17 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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Blue is bruising from handling and if your misting, the water hitting the cakes. Also can be caused by dehydrating.
Put them in water for 6-12 hours to let the myc suck up some H2O, you could even reroll them in verm after. If your verm is too chunky, put it in a blender. After rolling, give the cake about 30-60 minutes before misting or fanning so the verm has time to adhere, then LIGHTLY mist every 30 minutes or so for a couple hours. It really helps keep it from falling off.
While those cakes are soaking you could also go and find a smaller tub to fruit in. Not necessary, but it could help. Just dump the perlite you have into the new container.
Edited by jenkinz (08/18/12 02:19 PM)
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: jenkinz]
#16720475 - 08/18/12 02:23 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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It's ok to spray the cakes directly.
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: Doc_T]
#16720524 - 08/18/12 02:34 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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Yep, just for the first couple hours after rolling direct spray tends to knock off a lot of verm in my experience.
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: jenkinz]
#16721034 - 08/18/12 04:54 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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Quote:
jenkinz said:
Blue is bruising from handling and if your misting, the water hitting the cakes. Also can be caused by dehydrating.
Put them in water for 6-12 hours to let the myc suck up some H2O, you could even reroll them in verm after. If your verm is too chunky, put it in a blender. After rolling, give the cake about 30-60 minutes before misting or fanning so the verm has time to adhere, then LIGHTLY mist every 30 minutes or so for a couple hours. It really helps keep it from falling off.
While those cakes are soaking you could also go and find a smaller tub to fruit in. Not necessary, but it could help. Just dump the perlite you have into the new container.
awesome, thanks. i literally haven't touched them in the 3 1/2 weeks since birthing/dunk and rolling so i don't think its bruising. i got a taller container thats not as long so i can put more perlite in and not have it spread out so far.
all 4 cakes i have are growing mushrooms on the bottoms though, so i dont think submerging them like the innitial dunk after birthing would be a good idea, would it? i've just got them in like 2 1/2 inches of water (upside down so the mushrooms growing on the bottom are now facing up) right now soaking so that the mushrooms and pins are out of the water while i drill holes in this new FC.
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: Mr. Miller]
#16721272 - 08/18/12 05:43 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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If the cakes have a divot or dent on top, you can carefully fill it with water.
Let it soak in for a few hours, and then carefully tip off any excess.
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: Doc_T]
#16721910 - 08/18/12 07:42 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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Doc_T said:
If the cakes have a divot or dent on top, you can carefully fill it with water.
Let it soak in for a few hours, and then carefully tip off any excess.
i soaked the tops in a saucer of water like you said by flipping them upside down. then after a few hours i dunked the cakes about 2/3rds of the way in water, then put them in a bowl of verm to cover the dunked portions. i also blended the verm up so it would be easier to stick on the wet myc, i think that was a major reason it didn't stick the first time around.
so this is my setup now. 4 1/2 inches of damp perlite, drilled holes in all 6 sides and cut a rectangle shape out to let my tube light shine in. last one didn't have holes drilled in bottom to circulate the moisture in the perlite into the air.. silly me thought holes in the bottom to keep up humidity sounded a bit antiquated so i left them out. let me know what you think.
this is the old one. figured i'd show you what i was working with up to this point.
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: Doc_T]
#16721911 - 08/18/12 07:42 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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You can also pile up a few tablespoons of soaking wet verm on top of the cake. You can keep the verm soaked until the cake is hydrated and then scrape it off.
You're supposed to be using a clear tub and it should be elevated on blocks or jars so air can enter from the bottom.
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#16721988 - 08/18/12 07:58 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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Looks like you cut a slit out of your plastic lid and covered it with plastic for your light? Clever girl...
My backup SGFC has an opaque lid, I just stand the light up against the side of the tote and it works quite well, the fruits just all grow sideways toward the light, which is kinda funny.
Sounds like you're doing everything right so far, best of luck the rest of the way!
Oh, except for elevating your tub. Good call RR. Also, I like your wet verm idea. May try that soon
Edited by jenkinz (08/18/12 08:00 PM)
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: RogerRabbit]
#16721989 - 08/18/12 07:58 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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RogerRabbit said:
You can also pile up a few tablespoons of soaking wet verm on top of the cake. You can keep the verm soaked until the cake is hydrated and then scrape it off.
You're supposed to be using a clear tub and it should be elevated on blocks or jars so air can enter from the bottom.
RR
i cut a hole through the plastic in the shape of my light and covered it with clear plastic. will that be enough or should i try to get a lid that is clear? thanks for the advice, i just raised it up on an unused clean pet cage with thin metal bars so air will flow all around it.
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: jenkinz]
#16722007 - 08/18/12 08:01 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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jenkinz said:
Looks like you cut a slit out of your plastic lid and covered it with plastic for your light? Clever girl...
My backup SGFC has an opaque lid, I just stand the light up against the side of the tote and it works quite well, the fruits just all grow sideways toward the light, which is kinda funny.
Sounds like you're doing everything right so far, best of luck the rest of the way!
haha good eye my friend, you beat me to my explanation! i thought about doing the same thing i just wasn't sure if it would make my cakes tip over. thanks though, i'm starting to see the finish line!
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Re: Partially dehydrated cakes? [Re: Mr. Miller]
#16722067 - 08/18/12 08:14 PM (8 months, 30 days ago) |
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Sometimes I'll double stack my cakes if there isn't enough room and they have fallen over, but since they're packed in there they just land on the cake next to them.
Your method is just fine, keep on keepin on.
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