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 Celestial Traveler
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 Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? 
#16701780 - 08/15/12 12:00 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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Never tried meth, probably never will.
But I feel like people attach way too much weight to the Faces of Meth shit.
If you look at the mugshot for just about anyone, whether or not they are a drug user, they look like shit. Sad, angry or defeated facial expressions, hair and hygience usually in a jam, just general shit.
I've noticed that in a lot of the Faces of Meth photos, the "before" picture of the tweaker that they provide is often not a mugshot, and usually looks more like a school picture or just an ordinary photo. Then the second photo will be a mugshot from SEVERAL YEARS LATER.
After you account for the natural aging during the often long time span that occurs between the before and after photos, and the fact that the after pic is a mugshot whereas the before pic is often not, AND, the fact that they have probably not slept much recently (which will make you look like shit by itself, whether or not it's meth-related)...
How much of the deterioration is really meth-related?
Not to say meth isn't really bad or that it doesn't fuck people up, just sayin'...
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#16701859 - 08/15/12 12:11 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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people like to see connections... so much so you can usually draw together a bunch of things that don't connect at all, and convince anyone that they connect. influence is the one thing people can succumb to, if not just being forced to succumb to things.
influence is powerful, so people foolishly use it to their advantage whenever possible; and fools believe it usually.
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: akira_akuma]
#16701892 - 08/15/12 12:17 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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generally i'd say media embellish as a rule and most of it is probably unjustified. but i'd say meth is in the class of sketchy drugs - easily.
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#16701907 - 08/15/12 12:21 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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I believe the danger of meth is blown way out of proportion and the danger of amphetamine is underestimated.
If meth was put in nice little pills and given to 8 year old kids to focus them at school, people would see it as totally acceptable and not dangerous at all. Similarly, if amphetamine was produced in clandestine laboratories and sold on the street in higher doses than in pills, people would see it as a horrifying scourge just like they see meth now.
That's my opinion anyway.
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: JesusIsLord]
#16701911 - 08/15/12 12:21 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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Of course the media exaggerates it. They exaggerate anything that will create a stir, and therefore a story. It's how they roll. That said, meth isn't exactly a day at Disney. The stuff is dangerous, and abuse has consequences.
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Dark_Star]
#16701922 - 08/15/12 12:24 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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meth is not a dangerious drug if taken in a responsible mannor.
if you take way too much, way too often and don't allow your body and mind any time to recover, then yes you will fuck all of your shit up
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Salomon]
#16701934 - 08/15/12 12:27 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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The fact that abuse leads to problems makes it dangerous. The fact that it's addictive makes it dangerous. Note that I'm saying dangerous, not bad.
Chainsaws are dangerous. They can fuck shit up real quick. If used responsibly & safely they are useful tools.....but they are dangerous. See what I'm saying?
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Dark_Star]
#16701965 - 08/15/12 12:34 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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No...go to jail or prison lol.Meth is bonkers.
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Darwin23]
#16701976 - 08/15/12 12:36 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
Darwin23 said:
I believe the danger of meth is blown way out of proportion and the danger of amphetamine is underestimated.
If meth was put in nice little pills and given to 8 year old kids to focus them at school, people would see it as totally acceptable and not dangerous at all. Similarly, if amphetamine was produced in clandestine laboratories and sold on the street in higher doses than in pills, people would see it as a horrifying scourge just like they see meth now.
That's my opinion anyway.
Yeah I agree with this :thumbsup:
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Dark_Star]
#16701978 - 08/15/12 12:37 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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Yes and no.
Meth is constantly getting singled out as if it's the worst of the bunch, but like any drug it can be helpful or harmful.
Being illegal instead of carefully regulated is very bad for meth. It can be cooked clandestinely for very cheap and sold for peanuts in huge quantities.
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Solo_Dolo]
#16701984 - 08/15/12 12:37 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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you seem to forget just how bonkers PEOPLE are, and that they are idiots how do stupid shit for no reason. when you do shit for no reason, not only are you an idiot... but you're causing a reaction that you can't understand or control. hence, you're even stupidier, because you're fucking shit up for whoever the fuck is around you, and whatever it is your using, for no reason; which said things aren't used for. which is REASONLESS. which is idiotic. which is where the problem lays... not with an inanimate thing that has no say in what it is even. 
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#16701986 - 08/15/12 12:37 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: greenspectral]
#16701993 - 08/15/12 12:38 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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i see people using weed, alcohol and psychedelics, that type and talk like that. hmmm, crazy eh?
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
#16701997 - 08/15/12 12:39 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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it's just like any other drug in that it's safe if its used responsibly.
BUT, it is highly addictive. it becomes very difficult to put the pipe down, or to stop smoking if you still have some left. and it's an addiction that never leaves you
it is the most potent stimulant on the planet. it's potent to the point of being too strong to be enjoyable.
i think it is probably the drug that does the highest ammount of damage to a persons mentality in the shortest ammount of time
i'm not trying to fear monger or anything but this is honestly my perception and experience of the drug.
i hate how it makes me feel so good on the high, but so weak and wrecked on the come down. i can't stand being in the zombie state where i'm too awake to sleep, but too sleepy to stay awake. can't focus on anything. cant read, watch a tv or hold a conversation of any importance. can't eat food, can't do anything. you just have to occupy your brain with some kind of mundane repetitive task untill your out of the worst of it. like sometimes i've felt so weak on the comedown after a really severe binge where its to the point that i can barely muster the strength to cough or get a full breathe of air. just completely half dead laying there not able to do anything.
but having said that, the high is one of the best and most enjoyable of any drug i've ever done.... and it lasts for fuckign ages. another thing is you don't really build that much of a tolerance to it either. sure you may not get full effects from it but you always get high from it. mostly i just love smoking the shit. watching the tornado twirl up in the pipe. holding in the hit and feeling my brain light up. then just general  . it's a great party drug.
but it really does bring out the worst in people
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Dark_Star]
#16702550 - 08/15/12 03:26 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
Dark_Star said:
The fact that abuse leads to problems makes it dangerous. The fact that it's addictive makes it dangerous. Note that I'm saying dangerous, not bad.
Chainsaws are dangerous. They can fuck shit up real quick. If used responsibly & safely they are useful tools.....but they are dangerous. See what I'm saying?
Chane your sig man.
Theres something...horrifying about it.
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Darwin23]
#16702556 - 08/15/12 03:28 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
Darwin23 said:
If meth was put in nice little pills and given to 8 year old kids to focus them at school, people would see it as totally acceptable and not dangerous at all.
Uhm. Hate to break it to you but that's the way it is now already.
What do you think Ritalin / Adderal is? Pharmaceutical grade meth (basically) in a pill.
Who is it marketed primarily towards? You guessed it..
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Az0th]
#16702565 - 08/15/12 03:30 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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no that would be Dexedrine
aderall is mixed amphetamine salts
ritalin is Methylphenidate
Edited by Dest (08/15/12 03:31 AM)
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Dest]
#16702571 - 08/15/12 03:32 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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Yeah, it's an amphetamine. Perfect for kids
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: Az0th]
#16702678 - 08/15/12 04:31 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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Quote:
Shroomism said:
Quote:
Darwin23 said:
If meth was put in nice little pills and given to 8 year old kids to focus them at school, people would see it as totally acceptable and not dangerous at all.
Uhm. Hate to break it to you but that's the way it is now already.
What do you think Ritalin / Adderal is? Pharmaceutical grade meth (basically) in a pill.
Who is it marketed primarily towards? You guessed it..
They are not the same as far as I know. Meth is amphetamine with a methyl group attached. Adderall/Dexedrine are non-methylated amphetamine salts.
Adderall = d,l amphetamine
Dexedrine = d, amphetamine
Meth = methamphetamine
But who knows, I could be wrong.
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Re: Does the media exaggerate the dangers/effects of meth IYO? [Re: abltsandwich]
#16702682 - 08/15/12 04:36 AM (9 months, 1 day ago) |
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actually I am wrong, was convinced that dexidrine was racemic methamphetamine
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