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 Thorazine Vs. Haldol 
#16665873 - 08/08/12 03:33 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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I talked to my therapist today about my treatment with anti-psychotics, and their inability to effectively treat my symptoms.
I've been on every atypical anti-psychotic, and she told me to talk to my psychiatrist about Thorazine, or Haldol. (last ditch effort, by trying the older anti-psychotics - typicals )
I know there are a few Schizo's on here, or just generally manic people who might have dabbled with these drugs. So I was hoping for some input.
How effective are they?
Voices
Dellusions
Paranoia
Hallucinations
What side effects are you aware of, or have personally had?
What about sex drive?
I heard that Thorazine lessens sex drive, but doesn't completely kill it (Like most anti-psychotics do)
I also read that Haldol kills sex drive, but also, it can increase it. 
I need some input from some real people, and hopefully people who've tried them, or are on them.
Thanks guys.
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 Re: Thorazine Vs. Haldol [Re: Bundy]
#16665910 - 08/08/12 03:41 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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I've seen the effects of haldol and that shit looks like a zombifying drug imo
it will calm ur ass down if ur in the midst of psychosis but my friend who was on it said it makes you feel crazy as hell too it just sedates you
Fuck all that shit dude.
yer wreaking havoc on yer brain
you were probably sane when they convinced you to take crazy pills n now your fucked.
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Re: Thorazine Vs. Haldol [Re: Hologram]
#16665946 - 08/08/12 03:49 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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I've seen the effects of haldol and that shit looks like a zombifying drug imo
it will calm ur ass down if ur in the midst of psychosis but my friend who was on it said it makes you feel crazy as hell too it just sedates you
Fuck all that shit dude.
yer wreaking havoc on yer brain
you were probably sane when they convinced you to take crazy pills n now your fucked.
My friend and I were just talking about Haldol and he said if I go on it, I'll get a "Haldol shuffle." Which he said was a fucked up way of walking.
I wasn't any thing close to sane when I was put on anti-psychotics. I knew I was fucked my first psychotic episode. I didn't even get prescribed anything until 2 months after they diagnosed me (Just to be sure)
I'm just struggling. I'd rather be fucked up... then... well... fucked up.
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Re: Thorazine Vs. Haldol [Re: Hologram]
#16665954 - 08/08/12 03:51 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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i heard lowered sex drive from haldol and overwhelming sluggishness
you know dude, im not even remotely sound of mind and freak out on a daily basis but like you said your symptoms havent subsided so whats the point of the meds then?
these docs are playing pin the pill on the donkey and hoping it does the trick
i dont know what else to tell you really other than maybe consider a new approach.
you dont seem stabalized and dont seem to be benifiting from the chemical onslaught
i can almost guarantee the next few they throw at you wont help either
the haldol shuffle is very real
dude looked like he was an old man in a nursing home and is not even thirty. also had a scared deer in headlights look at all times
it does not look like fun stuff...
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Re: Thorazine Vs. Haldol [Re: Hologram]
#16665978 - 08/08/12 03:57 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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Yeah, I hear ya man, but I don't have a choice. If my doctor finds out I'm not taking my meds I get sent to the hospital on the spot. I have to make my wife or mom pick me up from the clinic and bring me, or I get escorted by the cops, and get injected with a cocktail of shit. Then I wake up and I'm in MHU. 
And he knows every time. I talk like an idiot off my meds. I can't keep a sentence straight, and forget what I'm saying mid-sentance.
I usually talk like this off meds...
"Umm, yeah, umm I was going to the store to get...umm." then go silent, and rack my brain for the answer.
Or
"Yeah I was driving up the store to get the street, and my brakes got hit, and stopped going accidentally, and that's what happens tomorrow."
it just fucking spills out too. I realize what I said after, but I can't control it while it happens.
I'm pretty much forced to be on meds.
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Re: Thorazine Vs. Haldol [Re: Bundy]
#16666012 - 08/08/12 04:05 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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You want to try Haldol well before you try Thorazine.
For a Typical, Haldol has minimal side effects. By contrast, Thorazine has maximal side effects.
Get Haldol and if the dose is relatively high, ask for a Biperiden pill to go along with that, it lessens the most unpleasant side effects.
Your doctor may prescribe differently, in which case you do that, but many find it helpful to take their haldol 2 hours before bedtime, sleeping over the period of most intense effect.
I have a WAY overactive brain and use haldol for that, typically 2-3mg before bedtime. Libido is impaired but otherwise side effects are relatively minor.
There is no addiction or tolerance to the antipsychotic effects, but if you use it for years you can become physically dependent.
There is more than fifty years of clinical experience with Haldol, making it one of the best researched, most predictable drugs.
Ask your doctor if its possible to ease into the drug, starting at once with a high dosage can be very unpleasant.
What Haldol will do for you is make your thoughts flow slower, fewer at a given time, the contents of the thoughts will be less emotionally charged, the subject of thoughts changes less often and over time you will be less prone to unfounded beliefs or flights of fancy. It will become easier for you to keep a grasp over whats going on internally and externally Instead of feeling a sedation added (like being drunk) you will notice an absence of mental preoccupation. It decreases what is there more, than that it adds an intoxication that blots things out.
This is not booksmarts speaking but 24 years of personal experience with Haldol.
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Re: Thorazine Vs. Haldol [Re: Bundy]
#16666015 - 08/08/12 04:05 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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seems like you really fucked yerself
can you own guns?
we're all mad, man you just cant let them know that or they come after yer rights treat you like a child.
i feel for you bro, id go with the thorazine i guess
are there any other options besides these two?
what exactly is giving them so much power over you? im not familiar with such a law in fact when i got commited it seemed as long as you know how to answer questionaires and maintain the illusion of normal, even if they think your faking it, they cant hold you.
As far as forcing meds on people i only see that when they litterally start screaming and running around for no reason. but that was WHILE commited.
on the street you can run around screaming legally so im still kinda puzzled by how they are able to treat you this way.
if you dont mind explaining itd be cool
otherwise its fine too
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nvm u answered me already
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Re: Thorazine Vs. Haldol [Re: Bundy]
#16666025 - 08/08/12 04:07 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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I don't know about thorazine and haldol. But I'm pretty sure wiccan seeker takes it. Wiccan what do you think about haldol?
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What Haldol will do for you is make your thoughts flow slower, fewer at a given time, the contents of the thoughts will be less emotionally charged,
this sounds absolutely awful
i dont know if you are on the perfect dose or what wiccan
if it was only "less" emotional and not completely Blank and dehumanized id see the appeal
but zombie like and empty is the only way i can describe what i saw
im sure like all things its subjective though...
i really hope you find yer peace of mind OP
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Re: Thorazine Vs. Haldol [Re: Hologram]
#16666100 - 08/08/12 04:22 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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What Haldol will do for you is make your thoughts flow slower, fewer at a given time, the contents of the thoughts will be less emotionally charged,
this sounds absolutely awful
Its not awful, its a haven if you have an overactive mind that you cant keep up with - if you get the right dose.
Its not about letting your mind grind to a halt, its to find a dosage level which will slow things down to a level that optimizes your functioning.
To find that dose takes months but once you have it you're set.
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if it was only "less" emotional and not completely Blank and dehumanized id see the appeal
but zombie like and empty is the only way i can describe what i saw
You see me posting, the intellectual and emotional content, does that strike you as zombified?
A high dose is utterly unpleasant but the right dose slows you down just enough, with the least side effects of all antipsychotics.
Some people need to suppress an active psychosis for a period, and those people are given higher doses which does flatten them a great deal, but once Bundy stabilizes, very slowly the dose can be decreased to a minimum that prevents a relapse. In many cases thats in the 2-4mg range and once you are used to that and you nighttime dose, side effects are a nuisance.
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I'd have to see you in person to make that judgement.
One can be cold(as a result of meds) and dehumanized and still remain rational and keep up intelligent discussion.
Im just weary of these kind of meds but far be it from me to say what works for you.
I just wonder if people who turn to these things have tried diet and excercise and other similar approaches before turning to that happy pill
You'd be suprised how calm your thoughts become when in shape.
my gut tells me most people who run to these meds probably didnt put in hard work to find peace without em.
Mind you i dont mean to judge, i still struggle daily but im not throwing in the towel yet
i have been reccomended psych pills and have been assessed as a nut or whatever but i feel alot better about myself not taking them
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Re: Thorazine Vs. Haldol [Re: Hologram]
#16666184 - 08/08/12 04:36 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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BOTH HALDOL AND THORAZINE HAVE HORRIFIC EFFECTS. on me at least.
Thorazine made me soooo restless and wanted to rip the skin off my face in PURE HORROR. and Haldol did the same thing it just lasted longer. If you take it by mouth the side effects don't get that bad, but if your in a psychiatric hospital and they stick a needle in your ass it fucking SUCKS.
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Re: Thorazine Vs. Haldol [Re: chiefin123]
#16666206 - 08/08/12 04:39 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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See thats what i get most commonly reported^
in fat wiccan is the first person online or in person ive ever met whos seems to agree with the stuff
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Re: Thorazine Vs. Haldol [Re: Hologram]
#16666259 - 08/08/12 04:48 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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Yea they should ban the stuff. I've also had horrible reactions from Geodon and Zyprexa. They should ban em all, cept for the good ones like resperidol is an okay drug. You can co administer it with cogentin for less side effects, But I think they should ban Haldol and Thorazine at least, especially for psychiatric hospital use because it makes you suffer, plus theres better stuff that can put you to sleep or knock you out without the terrifying pain. Thorazine is pure hell.
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